Re: [PHP-DEV] Bug #14120 Updated: libtool needs help.

2001-12-31 Thread Markus Fischer

On Sun, Dec 30, 2001 at 08:00:29PM -0600, Larry Rosenman wrote : 
> * Markus Fischer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [011230 15:04]:
> FYI, I found the bug, and it's really libtools. 
> 
> I submitted a patch to them, and posted it. 
> 
> Sorry if I got under people's skin. 

Nm, and a happy new year ;)

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Re: [PHP-DEV] Bug #14120 Updated: libtool needs help.

2001-12-30 Thread Larry Rosenman

* Markus Fischer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [011230 15:04]:
FYI, I found the bug, and it's really libtools. 

I submitted a patch to them, and posted it. 

Sorry if I got under people's skin. 

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Re: [PHP-DEV] Bug #14120 Updated: libtool needs help.

2001-12-30 Thread Larry Rosenman

* [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [011230 18:17]:
> On Sun, Dec 30, 2001 at 06:06:50PM -0600, Larry Rosenman wrote:
> > * [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [011230 18:02]:
> > > On Sun, Dec 30, 2001 at 05:52:36PM -0600, Larry Rosenman wrote:
> > > > * [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [011230 17:49]:
> > > > > On Sun, Dec 30, 2001 at 05:29:26PM -0600, Larry Rosenman wrote:
> > > > > > > configure is generated from aclocal.m4. Fixing aclocal.m4 isn't the right
> > > > > > > place either as aclocal.m4 is generated by 'aclocal' which takes the
> > > > > > > funtions from acinclude.m4 and the M4-files from /usr/share/aclocal/
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Where are the /usr/share/aclocal files in the snap tarball?  I don't
> > > > > > have autoconf installed here...
> > > > > 
> > > > > Ah, I see. Then it up to the packaging team to do this step.
> > > >
> > > > so, Am I out of the loop for now?  
> > > 
> > > More or less. Your patches should additionally be submitted to  the
> > > autoconf/libtool team (depends on which M4-file is broken).
> > Which versions do y'all use to create the tarball? 
> > 
> > the aclocal stuff looks local to PHP to me
> 
> As I've already said:
> 
> aclocal.m4 is generated by 'aclocal'. 
> 
> I've grepped for the first line of you fix:
> 
> $ grep "export_dynamic_flag_spec='-Bexport'" /usr/share/aclocal/*
> /usr/share/aclocal/libtool.m4:export_dynamic_flag_spec='-Bexport'
> 
> Your fix has to go into the libtool package itself. Ask the libtool
> developers for help, please.
I've submitted a patch to them, now that I found the libtool.m4 file. 

thanks.
> 
> http://www.gnu.org/software/libtool/
> 
> > > They will ask you for the version of autoconf/automake/libtool you used. It
> > > is best you generate teh configure scripts once on your own with your own
> > > autoconf/automake/libtool setup.
> >
> > where can I get the full setup you use?  
> 
> Perhaps the CVS requirement apply here, too:
> 
> http://www.php.net/anoncvs.php
> 
> > Larry Rosenman http://www.lerctr.org/~ler
> 
>   Jan
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Re: [PHP-DEV] Bug #14120 Updated: libtool needs help.

2001-12-30 Thread jan

On Sun, Dec 30, 2001 at 06:06:50PM -0600, Larry Rosenman wrote:
> * [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [011230 18:02]:
> > On Sun, Dec 30, 2001 at 05:52:36PM -0600, Larry Rosenman wrote:
> > > * [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [011230 17:49]:
> > > > On Sun, Dec 30, 2001 at 05:29:26PM -0600, Larry Rosenman wrote:
> > > > > > configure is generated from aclocal.m4. Fixing aclocal.m4 isn't the right
> > > > > > place either as aclocal.m4 is generated by 'aclocal' which takes the
> > > > > > funtions from acinclude.m4 and the M4-files from /usr/share/aclocal/
> > > > >
> > > > > Where are the /usr/share/aclocal files in the snap tarball?  I don't
> > > > > have autoconf installed here...
> > > > 
> > > > Ah, I see. Then it up to the packaging team to do this step.
> > >
> > > so, Am I out of the loop for now?  
> > 
> > More or less. Your patches should additionally be submitted to  the
> > autoconf/libtool team (depends on which M4-file is broken).
> Which versions do y'all use to create the tarball? 
> 
> the aclocal stuff looks local to PHP to me

As I've already said:

aclocal.m4 is generated by 'aclocal'. 

I've grepped for the first line of you fix:

$ grep "export_dynamic_flag_spec='-Bexport'" /usr/share/aclocal/*
/usr/share/aclocal/libtool.m4:export_dynamic_flag_spec='-Bexport'

Your fix has to go into the libtool package itself. Ask the libtool
developers for help, please.

http://www.gnu.org/software/libtool/

> > They will ask you for the version of autoconf/automake/libtool you used. It
> > is best you generate teh configure scripts once on your own with your own
> > autoconf/automake/libtool setup.
>
> where can I get the full setup you use?  

Perhaps the CVS requirement apply here, too:

http://www.php.net/anoncvs.php

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  Jan

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Re: [PHP-DEV] Bug #14120 Updated: libtool needs help.

2001-12-30 Thread Larry Rosenman

* [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [011230 18:02]:
> On Sun, Dec 30, 2001 at 05:52:36PM -0600, Larry Rosenman wrote:
> > * [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [011230 17:49]:
> > > On Sun, Dec 30, 2001 at 05:29:26PM -0600, Larry Rosenman wrote:
> > > > > configure is generated from aclocal.m4. Fixing aclocal.m4 isn't the right
> > > > > place either as aclocal.m4 is generated by 'aclocal' which takes the
> > > > > funtions from acinclude.m4 and the M4-files from /usr/share/aclocal/
> > > >
> > > > Where are the /usr/share/aclocal files in the snap tarball?  I don't
> > > > have autoconf installed here...
> > > 
> > > Ah, I see. Then it up to the packaging team to do this step.
> >
> > so, Am I out of the loop for now?  
> 
> More or less. Your patches should additionally be submitted to  the
> autoconf/libtool team (depends on which M4-file is broken).
Which versions do y'all use to create the tarball? 

the aclocal stuff looks local to PHP to me
> 
> > Will my patches be considered? 
> 
> Perhaps.
>  
> > I'm trying to help the best I can. 
> 
> Can you please submit your patches to the autoconf and libtool list ?
> 
> They will ask you for the version of autoconf/automake/libtool you used. It
> is best you generate teh configure scripts once on your own with your own
> autoconf/automake/libtool setup.
where can I get the full setup you use?  
> 
> > Larry Rosenman http://www.lerctr.org/~ler
> 
>   Jan
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Re: [PHP-DEV] Bug #14120 Updated: libtool needs help.

2001-12-30 Thread jan

On Sun, Dec 30, 2001 at 05:52:36PM -0600, Larry Rosenman wrote:
> * [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [011230 17:49]:
> > On Sun, Dec 30, 2001 at 05:29:26PM -0600, Larry Rosenman wrote:
> > > > configure is generated from aclocal.m4. Fixing aclocal.m4 isn't the right
> > > > place either as aclocal.m4 is generated by 'aclocal' which takes the
> > > > funtions from acinclude.m4 and the M4-files from /usr/share/aclocal/
> > >
> > > Where are the /usr/share/aclocal files in the snap tarball?  I don't
> > > have autoconf installed here...
> > 
> > Ah, I see. Then it up to the packaging team to do this step.
>
> so, Am I out of the loop for now?  

More or less. Your patches should additionally be submitted to  the
autoconf/libtool team (depends on which M4-file is broken).

> Will my patches be considered? 

Perhaps.
 
> I'm trying to help the best I can. 

Can you please submit your patches to the autoconf and libtool list ?

They will ask you for the version of autoconf/automake/libtool you used. It
is best you generate teh configure scripts once on your own with your own
autoconf/automake/libtool setup.

> Larry Rosenman http://www.lerctr.org/~ler

  Jan

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Re: [PHP-DEV] Bug #14120 Updated: libtool needs help.

2001-12-30 Thread Larry Rosenman

* [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [011230 17:49]:
> On Sun, Dec 30, 2001 at 05:29:26PM -0600, Larry Rosenman wrote:
> > > configure is generated from aclocal.m4. Fixing aclocal.m4 isn't the right
> > > place either as aclocal.m4 is generated by 'aclocal' which takes the
> > > funtions from acinclude.m4 and the M4-files from /usr/share/aclocal/
> >
> > Where are the /usr/share/aclocal files in the snap tarball?  I don't
> > have autoconf installed here...
> 
> Ah, I see. Then it up to the packaging team to do this step.
so, Am I out of the loop for now?  Will my patches be considered? 

I'm trying to help the best I can. 



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Re: [PHP-DEV] Bug #14120 Updated: libtool needs help.

2001-12-30 Thread jan

On Sun, Dec 30, 2001 at 05:29:26PM -0600, Larry Rosenman wrote:
> > configure is generated from aclocal.m4. Fixing aclocal.m4 isn't the right
> > place either as aclocal.m4 is generated by 'aclocal' which takes the
> > funtions from acinclude.m4 and the M4-files from /usr/share/aclocal/
>
> Where are the /usr/share/aclocal files in the snap tarball?  I don't
> have autoconf installed here...

Ah, I see. Then it up to the packaging team to do this step.

> > Can you please find out which M4-file carryies these lines ?
> where are these in the snap tarball? 

nowhere. They ar part of the autoconf, automake, libtool packages which
generated the configure-file.
 
> Larry Rosenman http://www.lerctr.org/~ler

  Jan

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Re: [PHP-DEV] Bug #14120 Updated: libtool needs help.

2001-12-30 Thread Larry Rosenman

* [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [011230 17:22]:
> On Sun, Dec 30, 2001 at 04:58:16PM -0600, Larry Rosenman wrote:
> > * Larry Rosenman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [011230 16:04]:
> > > * Larry Rosenman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [011230 15:19]:
> > > here is a patch that fixes it for me, but I don't know how to get this
> > > into the configure.in stuff... (I can't find it).
> > snip.
> > 
> > Ok, I found it, here are two patches, one to aclocal.m4, and the other
> > to configure.  I believe they are equivalent, and fix my issues. 
> 
> configure is generated from aclocal.m4. Fixing aclocal.m4 isn't the right
> place either as aclocal.m4 is generated by 'aclocal' which takes the
> funtions from acinclude.m4 and the M4-files from /usr/share/aclocal/
Where are the /usr/share/aclocal files in the snap tarball?  I don't
have autoconf installed here...
> 
> Can you please find out which M4-file carryies these lines ?
where are these in the snap tarball? 

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Re: [PHP-DEV] Bug #14120 Updated: libtool needs help.

2001-12-30 Thread jan

On Sun, Dec 30, 2001 at 04:58:16PM -0600, Larry Rosenman wrote:
> * Larry Rosenman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [011230 16:04]:
> > * Larry Rosenman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [011230 15:19]:
> > here is a patch that fixes it for me, but I don't know how to get this
> > into the configure.in stuff... (I can't find it).
> snip.
> 
> Ok, I found it, here are two patches, one to aclocal.m4, and the other
> to configure.  I believe they are equivalent, and fix my issues. 

configure is generated from aclocal.m4. Fixing aclocal.m4 isn't the right
place either as aclocal.m4 is generated by 'aclocal' which takes the
funtions from acinclude.m4 and the M4-files from /usr/share/aclocal/

Can you please find out which M4-file carryies these lines ?

  Jan

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Re: [PHP-DEV] Bug #14120 Updated: libtool needs help.

2001-12-30 Thread Larry Rosenman

* Larry Rosenman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [011230 16:04]:
> * Larry Rosenman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [011230 15:19]:
> here is a patch that fixes it for me, but I don't know how to get this
> into the configure.in stuff... (I can't find it).
snip.

Ok, I found it, here are two patches, one to aclocal.m4, and the other
to configure.  I believe they are equivalent, and fix my issues. 

can someone look at committing them? 


*** aclocal.m4.old  Sun Dec 30 08:00:26 2001
--- aclocal.m4  Sun Dec 30 16:48:53 2001
***
*** 3579,3584 
--- 3579,3595 
  export_dynamic_flag_spec='-Bexport'
  ;;
  
+   sysv5uw7* | unixware7* | sysv5Open*)
+ no_undefined_flag='${wl}-z ${wl}text'
+ if test "$GCC" = yes; then
+   archive_cmds='$CC -shared ${wl}-h ${wl}$soname -o $lib $libobjs $deplibs 
+$compiler_flags'
+ else
+   archive_cmds='$CC -G ${wl}-h ${wl}$soname -o $lib $libobjs $deplibs 
+$compiler_flags'
+ fi
+ runpath_var='LD_RUN_PATH'
+ hardcode_shlibpath_var=no
+ ;;
+ 
sysv5*)
  no_undefined_flag=' -z text'
  # $CC -shared without GNU ld will not create a library from C++
***
*** 3622,3637 
  runpath_var=LD_RUN_PATH
  ;;
  
-   sysv5uw7* | unixware7*)
- no_undefined_flag='${wl}-z ${wl}text'
- if test "$GCC" = yes; then
-   archive_cmds='$CC -shared ${wl}-h ${wl}$soname -o $lib $libobjs $deplibs 
$compiler_flags'
- else
-   archive_cmds='$CC -G ${wl}-h ${wl}$soname -o $lib $libobjs $deplibs 
$compiler_flags'
- fi
- runpath_var='LD_RUN_PATH'
- hardcode_shlibpath_var=no
- ;;
  
*)
  ld_shlibs=no
--- 3633,3638 
***
*** 5161,5168 
lt_cv_file_magic_test_file=/lib/libc.so
;;
  
! sysv5uw[[78]]* | sysv4*uw2*)
lt_cv_deplibs_check_method=pass_all
;;
  
  sysv4 | sysv4.2uw2* | sysv4.3* | sysv5*)
--- 5162,5170 
lt_cv_file_magic_test_file=/lib/libc.so
;;
  
! sysv5uw[[78]]* | sysv4*uw2* | sysv5Open*)
lt_cv_deplibs_check_method=pass_all
+   lt_cv_archive_cmds_need_lc=no
;;
  
  sysv4 | sysv4.2uw2* | sysv4.3* | sysv5*)


*** configure.old   Sun Dec 30 08:01:52 2001
--- configure   Sun Dec 30 16:40:04 2001
***
*** 62866,62873 
lt_cv_file_magic_test_file=/lib/libc.so
;;
  
! sysv5uw[78]* | sysv4*uw2*)
lt_cv_deplibs_check_method=pass_all
;;
  
  sysv4 | sysv4.2uw2* | sysv4.3* | sysv5*)
--- 62866,62874 
lt_cv_file_magic_test_file=/lib/libc.so
;;
  
! sysv5uw[78]* | sysv4*uw2*|sysv5Open* )
lt_cv_deplibs_check_method=pass_all
+   lt_cv_archive_cmds_need_lc=no
;;
  
  sysv4 | sysv4.2uw2* | sysv4.3* | sysv5*)
***
*** 64744,64749 
--- 64745,64761 
  export_dynamic_flag_spec='-Bexport'
  ;;
  
+   sysv5uw7* | unixware7* | sysv5Open*)
+ no_undefined_flag='${wl}-z ${wl}text'
+ if test "$GCC" = yes; then
+   archive_cmds='$CC -shared ${wl}-h ${wl}$soname -o $lib $libobjs $deplibs 
+$compiler_flags'
+ else
+   archive_cmds='$CC -G ${wl}-h ${wl}$soname -o $lib $libobjs $deplibs 
+$compiler_flags'
+ fi
+ runpath_var='LD_RUN_PATH'
+ hardcode_shlibpath_var=no
+ ;;
+ 
sysv5*)
  no_undefined_flag=' -z text'
  # $CC -shared without GNU ld will not create a library from C++
***
*** 64785,64801 
  hardcode_shlibpath_var=no
  hardcode_runpath_var=yes
  runpath_var=LD_RUN_PATH
- ;;
- 
-   sysv5uw7* | unixware7*)
- no_undefined_flag='${wl}-z ${wl}text'
- if test "$GCC" = yes; then
-   archive_cmds='$CC -shared ${wl}-h ${wl}$soname -o $lib $libobjs $deplibs 
$compiler_flags'
- else
-   archive_cmds='$CC -G ${wl}-h ${wl}$soname -o $lib $libobjs $deplibs 
$compiler_flags'
- fi
- runpath_var='LD_RUN_PATH'
- hardcode_shlibpath_var=no
  ;;
  
*)
--- 64797,64802 
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*** aclocal.m4.old  Sun Dec 30 08:00:26 2001
--- aclocal.m4  Sun Dec 30 16:48:53 2001
***
*** 3579,3584 
--- 3579,3595 
  export_dynamic_flag_spec='-Bexport'
  ;;
  
+   sysv5uw7* | unixware7* | sysv5Open*)
+ no_undefined_flag='${wl}-z ${wl}text'
+ if test "$GCC" = yes; then
+   archive_cmds='$CC -shared ${wl}-h ${wl}$soname -o $lib $libobjs $deplibs 
+$compiler_flags'
+ else
+   archive_cmds='$CC -G ${wl}-h ${wl}$soname -o $lib $libobjs $deplibs 
+$compiler_flags'
+ fi
+ runpath_var='LD_RUN_PATH'
+ hardcode_shlibpath_var=no
+ ;;
+ 
sysv5*)
  no_undefined_flag=' -z text'
  # $CC -shared without GNU ld will not create a library from C++
***
*** 3622,3637 
  runpath_var=LD_RUN_PATH
  ;;
  
-   sysv5uw7* | unixware7*)
- no_undefined_flag='${wl}-z ${wl}text'
- if test "$GCC" = yes; then
-   archive_cmds='$CC -s

Re: [PHP-DEV] Bug #14120 Updated: libtool needs help.

2001-12-30 Thread Larry Rosenman

* Markus Fischer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [011230 15:04]:
> On Sun, Dec 30, 2001 at 03:01:52PM -0600, Larry Rosenman wrote : 
> > * Markus Fischer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [011230 14:59]:
> > > On Sun, Dec 30, 2001 at 02:54:25PM -0600, Larry Rosenman wrote : 
> > > > I just don't like being ignored. 
> > > 
> > > You aren't. Sit back and think a moment about this: people
> > > are volunteering. They don't get paid. We're kind but we are
> > > no wizards either. And given the time that most are on
> > > holidays now, you should just take a deep breath before you
> > > think you have to need a rude attitude to shake the dead
> > > alive.
> > I'll shut up now, but I'd like to help, but don't know the
> > intricacies. 
> > 
> > I'll do whatever I need to help the team. 
> > 
> > This bug's been in the DB since 11/19, and the predecessor bug since
> > before that. 
> > 
> > I made the account for derrick, and he just made sure he can use it. 
> > 
> > It's not been used since. 
> > 
> > what else can I do? 
> > 
> > uid=121, name=drethans, lastterm=pts/15, lastlog=Sat Nov 17 18:55:46 2001
> 
> Do you have a contract stating if he fails to fullfill your
> needs you have the right to expose him and he owns you money?
No, but he asked for the account, and got it the same day.  then I was
asked to try the SNAP, and did the next day, filed this bug and have
waited ever since. 
> 
> You don't. He volunteered. He's a kind soul (I know that for
> sure) but also kind souls are busy as hell sometimes and even
> (aha!) take holidays. So what?
so do we all, and I've seen him active on other PHP related things on
the list (I subscribe). 

I know it's all volunteer, and I do my own share of volunteering, and
providing access.  Even hints as to how to fix my problem, or patches
to try will be accepted.  I just don't want to see this bug not get
fixed for 4.2.  It missed 4.1. 



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Re: [PHP-DEV] Bug #14120 Updated: libtool needs help.

2001-12-30 Thread Markus Fischer

On Sun, Dec 30, 2001 at 03:01:52PM -0600, Larry Rosenman wrote : 
> * Markus Fischer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [011230 14:59]:
> > On Sun, Dec 30, 2001 at 02:54:25PM -0600, Larry Rosenman wrote : 
> > > I just don't like being ignored. 
> > 
> > You aren't. Sit back and think a moment about this: people
> > are volunteering. They don't get paid. We're kind but we are
> > no wizards either. And given the time that most are on
> > holidays now, you should just take a deep breath before you
> > think you have to need a rude attitude to shake the dead
> > alive.
> I'll shut up now, but I'd like to help, but don't know the
> intricacies. 
> 
> I'll do whatever I need to help the team. 
> 
> This bug's been in the DB since 11/19, and the predecessor bug since
> before that. 
> 
> I made the account for derrick, and he just made sure he can use it. 
> 
> It's not been used since. 
> 
> what else can I do? 
> 
> uid=121, name=drethans, lastterm=pts/15, lastlog=Sat Nov 17 18:55:46 2001

Do you have a contract stating if he fails to fullfill your
needs you have the right to expose him and he owns you money?

You don't. He volunteered. He's a kind soul (I know that for
sure) but also kind souls are busy as hell sometimes and even
(aha!) take holidays. So what?

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Re: [PHP-DEV] Bug #14120 Updated: libtool needs help.

2001-12-30 Thread Larry Rosenman

* Markus Fischer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [011230 14:59]:
> On Sun, Dec 30, 2001 at 02:54:25PM -0600, Larry Rosenman wrote : 
> > I just don't like being ignored. 
> 
> You aren't. Sit back and think a moment about this: people
> are volunteering. They don't get paid. We're kind but we are
> no wizards either. And given the time that most are on
> holidays now, you should just take a deep breath before you
> think you have to need a rude attitude to shake the dead
> alive.
I'll shut up now, but I'd like to help, but don't know the
intricacies. 

I'll do whatever I need to help the team. 

This bug's been in the DB since 11/19, and the predecessor bug since
before that. 

I made the account for derrick, and he just made sure he can use it. 

It's not been used since. 

what else can I do? 


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Re: [PHP-DEV] Bug #14120 Updated: libtool needs help.

2001-12-30 Thread Markus Fischer

On Sun, Dec 30, 2001 at 02:54:25PM -0600, Larry Rosenman wrote : 
> I just don't like being ignored. 

You aren't. Sit back and think a moment about this: people
are volunteering. They don't get paid. We're kind but we are
no wizards either. And given the time that most are on
holidays now, you should just take a deep breath before you
think you have to need a rude attitude to shake the dead
alive.

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Re: [PHP-DEV] Bug #14120 Updated: libtool needs help.

2001-12-30 Thread Larry Rosenman

* Markus Fischer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [011230 11:38]:
> On Sun, Dec 30, 2001 at 04:31:16PM -, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote : 
> > ID: 14120
> > User updated by: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Reported By: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Status: Open
> > Bug Type: *Configuration Issues
> > Operating System: OpenUNIX8
> > PHP Version: 4.0CVS-2001-11-19
> > New Comment:
> > 
> > I updated to the 2001-12-30 06:00 SNAP, and still had to make the same
> > changes to libtool.  WHAT IS THE PHP TEAMS THOUGHTS?  Does ANYONE GIVE A DAMN? 
> 
> Probably not with such a attitude. No one gets paid to listen
> to your attitude.
I've been trying for more than a month.  by being quiet, asking every 
2 weeks or so. 

How would you recommend I go about it? 

I've done everything I've been asked to do, offered access to my
system, upgraded to a SNAP release for my production system. 

What ELSE would you like me to do.

I'll make as many accounts as needed available to the PHP team. 

I just don't like being ignored. 

LER


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Re: [PHP-DEV] Bug #14120 Updated: libtool needs help.

2001-12-30 Thread Markus Fischer

On Sun, Dec 30, 2001 at 04:31:16PM -, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote : 
> ID: 14120
> User updated by: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Reported By: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Status: Open
> Bug Type: *Configuration Issues
> Operating System: OpenUNIX8
> PHP Version: 4.0CVS-2001-11-19
> New Comment:
> 
> I updated to the 2001-12-30 06:00 SNAP, and still had to make the same
> changes to libtool.  WHAT IS THE PHP TEAMS THOUGHTS?  Does ANYONE GIVE A DAMN? 

Probably not with such a attitude. No one gets paid to listen
to your attitude.

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