Re: Re[2]: [PHP-DEV] Re: Shootout

[James Moore]

> need for storage). absolutely *no* reasonable programmer will ever use
> PHP to calculate prime numbers or fractals (maybe with mathematical
> extensions, but not with raw PHP code).

Hey I have a little PHP-GTK app that does simple fractals... whats wrong
with that??? :P

- James


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Re: [2]: [PHP-DEV] Re: Shootout

[Alexander Wagner]

Daniel Lorch wrote:
> it would be nice to see PHP w and w/o ZEND competing against each
> other.

Zend what?
I'd like to see it with/without ZendAccelerator.

> absolutely *no* reasonable
> programmer will ever use PHP to calculate prime numbers or fractals
> (maybe with mathematical extensions, but not with raw PHP code).

Perl and the like are used a lot in bio-informatics, and they are 
scripting-languages.
Even in CPU-intensive areas, ease of development can be important.

> face it: PHP is "just" a layouting engine. it collects data from
> different sources, gives it the final polish (formatting) and outputs
> it. nothing more. and YES it's a very feature-rich layouting engine
> and an excellent one, too.

PHP is a general-purpose language aimed at web-applications. That's 
more than just layout. A lot more.

regards
Wagner

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Re[2]: [PHP-DEV] Re: Shootout

[Daniel Lorch]

Hi,

> Sucks when you need to use a proprietary extension to a language to make 
> it benchmark well.

it would be nice to see PHP w and w/o ZEND competing against each
other.

but I don't think the raw cpu usage can be taken as a indicator for
judging a language. there are many other bottlenecks which play a much
more important role: database speed, file access latency (whatever you
need for storage). absolutely *no* reasonable programmer will ever use
PHP to calculate prime numbers or fractals (maybe with mathematical
extensions, but not with raw PHP code).

face it: PHP is "just" a layouting engine. it collects data from
different sources, gives it the final polish (formatting) and outputs
it. nothing more. and YES it's a very feature-rich layouting engine
and an excellent one, too.

Kind Regards,
  Daniel Lorch
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Re[2]: [PHP-DEV] Re: Shootout

[Daniel Lorch]

Hi,

>  $Id: nestedloop.php,v 1.1 2001/05/06 06:13:21 doug Exp $
>  http://www.bagley.org/~doug/shootout/

these benchmarks aren't significant, anyway. java code will run faster
on a native java CPU, so basically it's also architecture-dependant.

but nice work, nevertheless! really interesting to see how those
languages perform.

Kind Regards,
  Daniel Lorch
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