php-general Digest 11 Sep 2010 16:56:50 -0000 Issue 6935

2010-09-11 Thread php-general-digest-help

php-general Digest 11 Sep 2010 16:56:50 - Issue 6935

Topics (messages 307945 through 307955):

Re: Broken pipes, time outs, PHP, and mail
307945 by: Dave M G

Re: Standalone WebServer for PHP
307946 by: Per Jessen

Disabling an extension on a perdir basis.
307947 by: Richard Quadling
307948 by: a...@ashleysheridan.co.uk
307955 by: Jim Lucas

Elegance is the goal... Sticky form submit help
307949 by: Jason Pruim
307950 by: a...@ashleysheridan.co.uk
307951 by: tedd
307952 by: Tamara Temple
307953 by: Tamara Temple

How to handle a submitted form with no changes -- best practices sought
307954 by: Tamara Temple

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Peter, Bob,

Thank you for replying.

After a few days testing, I set up an error handler for when messages 
don't get sent. I started to see an error saying Language String failed 
to load, which seems to be particular to the PHPmailer scripts I am using.


Long story short, after some searching on the web, it looks like the 
sending of mails will die if one mail on the list is invalid.


I tried sending a message out to the list, got back a response saying 
that the recipient did not exist. So I deleted that user, and then the 
mail went through fine on the next attempt.


I'm a little fuzzy on what exactly is happening.

Does the PHP mail() command (and by extension, classes built upon it) 
listen for responses from the server it is sending to?


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Steve Staples wrote:

 Ok, here it goes...
 
 I am building an app, that requires a web interface.  I am using PHP
 becuase I am familiar with it.   Most of the app's i've been looking
 at, use Python, Cherry.py and stuff, but what I was wondering, is is
 there a way to create a php CLI app, that creates it's own web
 server even if apache is installed.

Yep, that's no big deal.  A webserver is just some code that listens for
requests on port XX, processes the requests and sends back suitably
formatted responses. 



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Hi.

Can't seem to see a way to do this.

Is there a way to do this?

-- 
Richard Quadling
Twitter : EE : Zend
@RQuadling : e-e.com/M_248814.html : bit.ly/9O8vFY
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If you want to prevent certain extensions then just flirt then out from the 
$_FILES array before you copy them out of the temp directory, as that is where 
they should be uploaded ready for your script to process.

Thanks,
Ash
http://www.ashleysheridan.co.uk

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From: Richard Quadling rquadl...@gmail.com
Date: Sat, Sep 11, 2010 11:11
Subject: [PHP] Disabling an extension on a perdir basis.
To: PHP General list php-gene...@lists.php.net

Hi.

Can't seem to see a way to do this.

Is there a way to do this?

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Richard Quadling wrote:

Hi.

Can't seem to see a way to do this.

Is there a way to do this?



Are you talking about a PHP extension or a file extension?
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---BeginMessage---

Hey everyone!

Hope you are having a great weekend, and I'm hoping someone might be  
coherent enough to help me find a more elegant solution to a problem  
that I have...


I have a form for submitting an event to a website, and if the form is  
not submitted successfully (such as they didn't fill out a required  
field) I want it to redisplay the form with inline errors as to what  
happened and display the values they selected...


I have a working solution but was hoping for something a little more  
elegant. And something that would work better for a month selector as  
well... Here is the relevant code that I have that works:


?PHP
if ($_POST['hidSubmit'] ==TRUE  $_POST['type'] == meeting):
echo HTML
select name=type id=type
option value=0-- select type --/option
option value=meeting selectedMeeting/option
option value=event Event/option
/select
HTML;

elseif ($_POST['hidSubmit'] == TRUE  $_POST['type'] == event):
//if ($_POST['hidSubmit'] == TRUE  $_POST['type'] == event) {

echo HTML
select name=type id=type
option value=0-- select type --/option
option value=meetingMeeting/option
option value=event selectedEvent/option
/select
HTML;

else:
//if ($_POST['hidSubmit'] != TRUE):


echo HTML
select name=type id=type

Re: [PHP] Standalone WebServer for PHP

2010-09-11 Thread Per Jessen
Steve Staples wrote:

 Ok, here it goes...
 
 I am building an app, that requires a web interface.  I am using PHP
 becuase I am familiar with it.   Most of the app's i've been looking
 at, use Python, Cherry.py and stuff, but what I was wondering, is is
 there a way to create a php CLI app, that creates it's own web
 server even if apache is installed.

Yep, that's no big deal.  A webserver is just some code that listens for
requests on port XX, processes the requests and sends back suitably
formatted responses. 



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[PHP] Disabling an extension on a perdir basis.

2010-09-11 Thread Richard Quadling
Hi.

Can't seem to see a way to do this.

Is there a way to do this?

-- 
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Twitter : EE : Zend
@RQuadling : e-e.com/M_248814.html : bit.ly/9O8vFY

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Re: [PHP] Disabling an extension on a perdir basis.

2010-09-11 Thread a...@ashleysheridan.co.uk
If you want to prevent certain extensions then just flirt then out from the 
$_FILES array before you copy them out of the temp directory, as that is where 
they should be uploaded ready for your script to process.

Thanks,
Ash
http://www.ashleysheridan.co.uk

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From: Richard Quadling rquadl...@gmail.com
Date: Sat, Sep 11, 2010 11:11
Subject: [PHP] Disabling an extension on a perdir basis.
To: PHP General list php-general@lists.php.net

Hi.

Can't seem to see a way to do this.

Is there a way to do this?

-- 
Richard Quadling
Twitter : EE : Zend
@RQuadling : e-e.com/M_248814.html : bit.ly/9O8vFY

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[PHP] Elegance is the goal... Sticky form submit help

2010-09-11 Thread Jason Pruim

Hey everyone!

Hope you are having a great weekend, and I'm hoping someone might be  
coherent enough to help me find a more elegant solution to a problem  
that I have...


I have a form for submitting an event to a website, and if the form is  
not submitted successfully (such as they didn't fill out a required  
field) I want it to redisplay the form with inline errors as to what  
happened and display the values they selected...


I have a working solution but was hoping for something a little more  
elegant. And something that would work better for a month selector as  
well... Here is the relevant code that I have that works:


?PHP
if ($_POST['hidSubmit'] ==TRUE  $_POST['type'] == meeting):
echo HTML
select name=type id=type
option value=0-- select type --/option
option value=meeting selectedMeeting/option
option value=event Event/option
/select
HTML;

elseif ($_POST['hidSubmit'] == TRUE  $_POST['type'] == event):
//if ($_POST['hidSubmit'] == TRUE  $_POST['type'] == event) {

echo HTML
select name=type id=type
option value=0-- select type --/option
option value=meetingMeeting/option
option value=event selectedEvent/option
/select
HTML;

else:
//if ($_POST['hidSubmit'] != TRUE):


echo HTML
select name=type id=type
option value=0 selected-- select type --/option
option value=meetingMeeting/option
option value=eventEvent/option
/select
HTML;
endif;

?

which works BUT I don't want to have to have that for a month selector  
or a day selector :)


Any ideas what I'm missing?



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Re: [PHP] Elegance is the goal... Sticky form submit help

2010-09-11 Thread a...@ashleysheridan.co.uk
For a month selector, using a loop to output the months is good, as you can 
then within the loop check for that value sent and set the selected html 
attribute for that select element.

I should warn you that your code will throw a warning when no data has been 
posted to it. Consider using isset() instead to check for posted values rather 
than comparing a value (which might not exist) with true.

Thanks,
Ash
http://www.ashleysheridan.co.uk

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From: Jason Pruim li...@pruimphotography.com
Date: Sat, Sep 11, 2010 14:49
Subject: [PHP] Elegance is the goal... Sticky form submit help
To: PHP-General list php-general@lists.php.net

Hey everyone!

Hope you are having a great weekend, and I'm hoping someone might be  
coherent enough to help me find a more elegant solution to a problem  
that I have...

I have a form for submitting an event to a website, and if the form is  
not submitted successfully (such as they didn't fill out a required  
field) I want it to redisplay the form with inline errors as to what  
happened and display the values they selected...

I have a working solution but was hoping for something a little more  
elegant. And something that would work better for a month selector as  
well... Here is the relevant code that I have that works:

?PHP
 if ($_POST['hidSubmit'] ==TRUE  $_POST['type'] == meeting):
echo HTML
 select name=type id=type
 option value=0-- select type --/option
 option value=meeting selectedMeeting/option
 option value=event Event/option
 /select
HTML;

elseif ($_POST['hidSubmit'] == TRUE  $_POST['type'] == event):
//if ($_POST['hidSubmit'] == TRUE  $_POST['type'] == event) {

echo HTML
 select name=type id=type
 option value=0-- select type --/option
 option value=meetingMeeting/option
 option value=event selectedEvent/option
 /select
HTML;

else:
//if ($_POST['hidSubmit'] != TRUE):


echo HTML
 select name=type id=type
 option value=0 selected-- select type --/option
 option value=meetingMeeting/option
 option value=eventEvent/option
 /select
HTML;
endif;

?

which works BUT I don't want to have to have that for a month selector  
or a day selector :)

Any ideas what I'm missing?



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Re: [PHP] Elegance is the goal... Sticky form submit help

2010-09-11 Thread tedd

At 9:49 AM -0400 9/11/10, Jason Pruim wrote:

Hey everyone!

Hope you are having a great weekend, and I'm hoping someone might be 
coherent enough to help me find a more elegant solution to a problem 
that I have...


I have a form for submitting an event to a website, and if the form 
is not submitted successfully (such as they didn't fill out a 
required field) I want it to redisplay the form with inline errors 
as to what happened and display the values they selected...


-snip-


Any ideas what I'm missing?


Jason:

I think what you are missing is that this data collection should be 
split between client-side and server-side operations.


For client-side simply use javascript to monitor what they user 
enters and then immediately respond to the requirements imposed upon 
the user.


After the user fills out the information correctly and clicks submit, 
then have your server-side scripts check the data again and respond 
accordingly.


Here are a couple of examples:

http://webbytedd.com/c/form-calc/

http://webbytedd.com/c/form-submit/


Cheers,

tedd

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Re: [PHP] Elegance is the goal... Sticky form submit help

2010-09-11 Thread Tamara Temple

Rather than repeating all that code, I suggest the following:


select name=type id=type
   option value=0-- select type --/option
   option value=meeting ?php echo (isset($_POST['hidSubmit']   
$_POST['hidSubmit'] == TRUE  $_POST['type'] == meeting) ?  
selected : '' ?
   option value=event ?php echo (isset($_POST['hidSubmit']   
$_POST['hidSubmit'] == TRUE  $_POST['type'] == event) ?  
selected : '' ?

/select


For a month selector, try:

?php
   // assume current month number is in $curr_month
   $months = array(1 = January, February, March, April,  
May, June, July, August, September, October, November,  
December); // will create an array of month names, with a starting  
base of 1 (instead of zero)


  echo select name=\month\ id=\month\\n;
  foreach ($months as $m = $mname) {
echo option value=\$m\;
if ($curr_month == $m) echo  selected ;
echo $mname/option\n;
  }
  echo /select\n;
?

There are other possiblities as well. One time, I didn't want to  
actually store the month names, perhaps allowing them to be localized.  
Instead I used strftime, which will return appropriate names based on  
locale:


?php
  // assume current month number is in $curr_month

  echo select name=\month\ id=\month\\n;
  for ($m = 1; $m = 12; $m++) {
echo option value=\$m\;
if ($curr_month == $m) echo  selected ;
echo ;
$mname = strftime(%B, 0,0,0,2010, $m, 1); // time, year and day  
don't matter, all we're after is the appropriate month name set in the  
locale

echo $mname;
echo /option\n;
  }
  echo /select\n;
?




On Sep 11, 2010, at 8:49 AM, Jason Pruim wrote:


Hey everyone!

Hope you are having a great weekend, and I'm hoping someone might be  
coherent enough to help me find a more elegant solution to a problem  
that I have...


I have a form for submitting an event to a website, and if the form  
is not submitted successfully (such as they didn't fill out a  
required field) I want it to redisplay the form with inline errors  
as to what happened and display the values they selected...


I have a working solution but was hoping for something a little more  
elegant. And something that would work better for a month selector  
as well... Here is the relevant code that I have that works:


?PHP
   if ($_POST['hidSubmit'] ==TRUE  $_POST['type'] == meeting):
echo HTML
   select name=type id=type
   option value=0-- select type --/option
   option value=meeting selectedMeeting/option
   option value=event Event/option
   /select
HTML;

elseif ($_POST['hidSubmit'] == TRUE  $_POST['type'] == event):
//if ($_POST['hidSubmit'] == TRUE  $_POST['type'] == event) {

echo HTML
   select name=type id=type
   option value=0-- select type --/option
   option value=meetingMeeting/option
   option value=event selectedEvent/option
   /select
HTML;

else:
//if ($_POST['hidSubmit'] != TRUE):


echo HTML
   select name=type id=type
   option value=0 selected-- select type --/option
   option value=meetingMeeting/option
   option value=eventEvent/option
   /select
HTML;
endif;

?

which works BUT I don't want to have to have that for a month  
selector or a day selector :)


Any ideas what I'm missing?



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Re: [PHP] Elegance is the goal... Sticky form submit help

2010-09-11 Thread Tamara Temple
The debate on client-side vs. server-side form validation is ongoing.  
Client-side is more responsive, and attempts to keep bad data from  
ever reaching your application, but relies on javascript being  
enabled. Since this is something easily turned off by users, one can't  
always rely on it to do form validation. So server-side validation is  
needed as well to allow your full application to gracefully degrade in  
the absence of working javascript on the client's side. Coding  
defensively helps!


On Sep 11, 2010, at 10:55 AM, tedd wrote:


At 9:49 AM -0400 9/11/10, Jason Pruim wrote:

Hey everyone!

Hope you are having a great weekend, and I'm hoping someone might  
be coherent enough to help me find a more elegant solution to a  
problem that I have...


I have a form for submitting an event to a website, and if the form  
is not submitted successfully (such as they didn't fill out a  
required field) I want it to redisplay the form with inline errors  
as to what happened and display the values they selected...


-snip-


Any ideas what I'm missing?


Jason:

I think what you are missing is that this data collection should be  
split between client-side and server-side operations.


For client-side simply use javascript to monitor what they user  
enters and then immediately respond to the requirements imposed upon  
the user.


After the user fills out the information correctly and clicks  
submit, then have your server-side scripts check the data again and  
respond accordingly.


Here are a couple of examples:

http://webbytedd.com/c/form-calc/

http://webbytedd.com/c/form-submit/


Cheers,

tedd

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[PHP] How to handle a submitted form with no changes -- best practices sought

2010-09-11 Thread Tamara Temple

I have a general question and am looking for best practices.

Suppose I present a user with a form for editing an entry in a table,  
i.e., the form has filled in values from the existing table entry.


Now, suppose they click on 'submit' without making any changes in the  
form. (Perhaps, say, rather than clicking 'Cancel' or 'Return to Main'  
or some other option which would get them out of that screen without  
submitting the form).


Is it worth the overhead of passing along the previous values in the  
table in hidden fields so that fields can be checked to see if they've  
been updated or not after the submit? Or is it worth reloading the old  
values from the table to check against the newly submitted form? Or is  
all that overhead not worth the time because an update that overwrites  
existing values with the same values is not that onerous?


(Is that question clear enough?)

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Re: [PHP] Disabling an extension on a perdir basis.

2010-09-11 Thread Jim Lucas

Richard Quadling wrote:

Hi.

Can't seem to see a way to do this.

Is there a way to do this?



Are you talking about a PHP extension or a file extension?

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Re: [PHP] Elegance is the goal... Sticky form submit help

2010-09-11 Thread Jason Pruim


On Sep 11, 2010, at 11:55 AM, tedd wrote:


At 9:49 AM -0400 9/11/10, Jason Pruim wrote:

Hey everyone!

Hope you are having a great weekend, and I'm hoping someone might  
be coherent enough to help me find a more elegant solution to a  
problem that I have...


I have a form for submitting an event to a website, and if the form  
is not submitted successfully (such as they didn't fill out a  
required field) I want it to redisplay the form with inline errors  
as to what happened and display the values they selected...


-snip-


Any ideas what I'm missing?


Jason:

I think what you are missing is that this data collection should be  
split between client-side and server-side operations.


Hey tedd,

Thanks for the response but for this particular project I'm avoiding   
using anything but standard HTML since it will be used almost  
exclusively  by people using screen readers and other assistive  
technology so I'm going a little old school with it to make sure it  
all works for everyone else first.





For client-side simply use javascript to monitor what they user  
enters and then immediately respond to the requirements imposed upon  
the user.


After the user fills out the information correctly and clicks  
submit, then have your server-side scripts check the data again and  
respond accordingly.


Here are a couple of examples:

http://webbytedd.com/c/form-calc/

http://webbytedd.com/c/form-submit/


I will definitely be checking out your examples though! Some of the  
cleanest, well documented, and easiest to read code I have seen in a  
long time!







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Re: [PHP] Elegance is the goal... Sticky form submit help

2010-09-11 Thread Jason Pruim

Hey Ash,


On Sep 11, 2010, at 10:58 AM, a...@ashleysheridan.co.uk wrote:

For a month selector, using a loop to output the months is good, as  
you can then within the loop check for that value sent and set the  
selected html attribute for that select element.


that's what I was thinking too... Now just to work out the logic :)


I should warn you that your code will throw a warning when no data  
has been posted to it. Consider using isset() instead to check for  
posted values rather than comparing a value (which might not exist)  
with true.


I have other code that will catch it if it's empty but a good  
suggestion none the less! If I stick with that code for some reason  
I'll be updating it to use isset()


Thanks Ash!


Thanks,
Ash
http://www.ashleysheridan.co.uk

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From: Jason Pruim li...@pruimphotography.com
Date: Sat, Sep 11, 2010 14:49
Subject: [PHP] Elegance is the goal... Sticky form submit help
To: PHP-General list php-general@lists.php.net

Hey everyone!

Hope you are having a great weekend, and I'm hoping someone might be
coherent enough to help me find a more elegant solution to a problem
that I have...

I have a form for submitting an event to a website, and if the form is
not submitted successfully (such as they didn't fill out a required
field) I want it to redisplay the form with inline errors as to what
happened and display the values they selected...

I have a working solution but was hoping for something a little more
elegant. And something that would work better for a month selector as
well... Here is the relevant code that I have that works:

?PHP
if ($_POST['hidSubmit'] ==TRUE  $_POST['type'] == meeting):
echo HTML
select name=type id=type
option value=0-- select type --/option
option value=meeting selectedMeeting/option
option value=event Event/option
/select
HTML;

elseif ($_POST['hidSubmit'] == TRUE  $_POST['type'] == event):
//if ($_POST['hidSubmit'] == TRUE  $_POST['type'] == event) {

echo HTML
select name=type id=type
option value=0-- select type --/option
option value=meetingMeeting/option
option value=event selectedEvent/option
/select
HTML;

else:
//if ($_POST['hidSubmit'] != TRUE):


echo HTML
select name=type id=type
option value=0 selected-- select type --/option
option value=meetingMeeting/option
option value=eventEvent/option
/select
HTML;
endif;

?

which works BUT I don't want to have to have that for a month selector
or a day selector :)

Any ideas what I'm missing?



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Re: [PHP] Elegance is the goal... Sticky form submit help

2010-09-11 Thread Jason Pruim

Hi Tamara,



On Sep 11, 2010, at 12:39 PM, Tamara Temple wrote:


Rather than repeating all that code, I suggest the following:


select name=type id=type
  option value=0-- select type --/option
  option value=meeting ?php echo (isset($_POST['hidSubmit']   
$_POST['hidSubmit'] == TRUE  $_POST['type'] == meeting) ?  
selected : '' ?
  option value=event ?php echo (isset($_POST['hidSubmit']   
$_POST['hidSubmit'] == TRUE  $_POST['type'] == event) ?  
selected : '' ?

/select



That's actually what I'm trying to get away from. I was hoping to do  
it all in HEREDOC syntax. I've always thought it made it cleaner.  But  
that is a personal opinion :)


For a month selector, try:

?php
  // assume current month number is in $curr_month
  $months = array(1 = January, February, March, April,  
May, June, July, August, September, October, November,  
December); // will create an array of month names, with a starting  
base of 1 (instead of zero)


 echo select name=\month\ id=\month\\n;
 foreach ($months as $m = $mname) {
   echo option value=\$m\;
   if ($curr_month == $m) echo  selected ;
   echo $mname/option\n;
 }
 echo /select\n;
?

There are other possiblities as well. One time, I didn't want to  
actually store the month names, perhaps allowing them to be  
localized. Instead I used strftime, which will return appropriate  
names based on locale:


?php
 // assume current month number is in $curr_month

 echo select name=\month\ id=\month\\n;
 for ($m = 1; $m = 12; $m++) {
   echo option value=\$m\;
   if ($curr_month == $m) echo  selected ;
   echo ;
   $mname = strftime(%B, 0,0,0,2010, $m, 1); // time, year and day  
don't matter, all we're after is the appropriate month name set in  
the locale

   echo $mname;
   echo /option\n;
 }
 echo /select\n;
?


I'm actually doing something similar to that right now...

?PHP
if (isset($_POST)) {
$date = date(n, $i);
echo $date;
$i++;
}
?

Prints just the numeric reference to the month.



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Re: [PHP] Elegance is the goal... Sticky form submit help

2010-09-11 Thread Jason Pruim


On Sep 11, 2010, at 1:03 PM, Debbie . wrote:


Jason,
I don't really understand the responses you got to this email, I  
have attached the sticky form I made from a book called PHP Visual  
Quickstart guide. It uses an if conditional to print a response if  
the field is empty.

If I'm not helping, sorry, I'm new!

Good luck!

live, love and be happy!

Deb


Hi Deb,

Welcome to the list! It will be the best and worse place you'll ever  
come for help! :)


What you sent is helpful, but due to a personal preference I'm trying  
to avoid going in and out of PHP like you do in there... Trying to use  
HEREDOC for the entire page. It makes more sense to me that way :)


Thank you though! :)



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Re: [PHP] Disabling an extension on a perdir basis.

2010-09-11 Thread Richard Quadling
On 11 September 2010 17:56, Jim Lucas li...@cmsws.com wrote:
 Richard Quadling wrote:

 Hi.

 Can't seem to see a way to do this.

 Is there a way to do this?


 Are you talking about a PHP extension or a file extension?


I sat there for about a minute reading Ashley's comment, thinking
what the f__k is he talking about!. Then your comment made it all
make sense.

I want to disable a PHP extension from 1 directory.

Initially I thought that I could use disable_class and
disable_function ini options, but these are php.ini only (according to
the docs).

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Re: [PHP] Disabling an extension on a perdir basis.

2010-09-11 Thread Jim Lucas

Richard Quadling wrote:

On 11 September 2010 17:56, Jim Lucas li...@cmsws.com wrote:

Richard Quadling wrote:

Hi.

Can't seem to see a way to do this.

Is there a way to do this?


Are you talking about a PHP extension or a file extension?



I sat there for about a minute reading Ashley's comment, thinking
what the f__k is he talking about!. Then your comment made it all
make sense.

I want to disable a PHP extension from 1 directory.

Initially I thought that I could use disable_class and
disable_function ini options, but these are php.ini only (according to
the docs).



As I thought, looking through the docs, it looks like the only way to 
set the options that are only settable via the php.ini file is to use a 
per directory php.ini file.  But, the problem with that is, it only 
works with the CGI/FASTCGI SAPI version of php.  It won't work with the 
apache mod version.


So, I guess the question back to you is, what is your setup like?  And 
if it isn't CGI/FASTCGI SAPI are you willing to change to that setup?


Read More: http://www.php.net/manual/en/configuration.file.per-user.php

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Re: [PHP] Elegance is the goal... Sticky form submit help

2010-09-11 Thread Jim Lucas

Jason Pruim wrote:

Hi Tamara,



On Sep 11, 2010, at 12:39 PM, Tamara Temple wrote:


Rather than repeating all that code, I suggest the following:


select name=type id=type
  option value=0-- select type --/option
  option value=meeting ?php echo (isset($_POST['hidSubmit']  
$_POST['hidSubmit'] == TRUE  $_POST['type'] == meeting) ? 
selected : '' ?
  option value=event ?php echo (isset($_POST['hidSubmit']  
$_POST['hidSubmit'] == TRUE  $_POST['type'] == event) ? selected 
: '' ?

/select



That's actually what I'm trying to get away from. I was hoping to do it 
all in HEREDOC syntax. I've always thought it made it cleaner.  But that 
is a personal opinion :)


For a month selector, try:

?php
  // assume current month number is in $curr_month
  $months = array(1 = January, February, March, April, May, 
June, July, August, September, October, November, 
December); // will create an array of month names, with a starting 
base of 1 (instead of zero)


 echo select name=\month\ id=\month\\n;
 foreach ($months as $m = $mname) {
   echo option value=\$m\;
   if ($curr_month == $m) echo  selected ;
   echo $mname/option\n;
 }
 echo /select\n;
?

There are other possiblities as well. One time, I didn't want to 
actually store the month names, perhaps allowing them to be localized. 
Instead I used strftime, which will return appropriate names based on 
locale:


?php
 // assume current month number is in $curr_month

 echo select name=\month\ id=\month\\n;
 for ($m = 1; $m = 12; $m++) {
   echo option value=\$m\;
   if ($curr_month == $m) echo  selected ;
   echo ;
   $mname = strftime(%B, 0,0,0,2010, $m, 1); // time, year and day 
don't matter, all we're after is the appropriate month name set in the 
locale

   echo $mname;
   echo /option\n;
 }
 echo /select\n;
?


I'm actually doing something similar to that right now...

?PHP
if (isset($_POST)) {
$date = date(n, $i);
echo $date;
$i++;
}
?

Prints just the numeric reference to the month.





Here is a combination of Tamara's method and they way that I would do it 
based off her example.  Some of hers didn't work for me out of the box, 
so I modified it to my liking.  Then I included your request to do 
HEREDOC syntax for outputting the list.


?php

$o = array();
for ($m = 1; $m = 12; $m++) {
  $sel = ($curr_month == $m ? ' selected=selected':'');
  $mname = date('F', mktime(0,0,0,$m));

  $o[] = 'option value='.(int)$m.''.$sel.''.
 htmlspecialchars($mname).'/option';
}
$select_month_options = join(\n, $o);

echo HTML
select name=month id=month
{$select_month_options}
/select
HTML;

?

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Re: [PHP] Elegance is the goal... Sticky form submit help

2010-09-11 Thread tedd

At 11:42 AM -0500 9/11/10, Tamara Temple wrote:
The debate on client-side vs. server-side form validation is 
ongoing. Client-side is more responsive, and attempts to keep bad 
data from ever reaching your application, but relies on javascript 
being enabled. Since this is something easily turned off by users, 
one can't always rely on it to do form validation. So server-side 
validation is needed as well to allow your full application to 
gracefully degrade in the absence of working javascript on the 
client's side. Coding defensively helps!


It's not a debate.

You can provide progressive enhancement to your form to help your 
users *IF* you want.


You should *always* validate all the information coming from the outside world.

The question of *if* you want to do both is your choice without any 
debate. Those are only choices that you can elect to follow or not.


Cheers,

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Re: [PHP] Elegance is the goal... Sticky form submit help

2010-09-11 Thread tedd

At 1:09 PM -0400 9/11/10, Jason Pruim wrote:

Hey tedd,

Thanks for the response but for this particular project I'm avoiding
using anything but standard HTML since it will be used almost 
exclusively  by people using screen readers and other assistive 
technology so I'm going a little old school with it to make sure it 
all works for everyone else first.


That goes without saying.

Regardless of *if* your users use screen readers, or not, progressive 
enhancement should be followed.


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Re: [PHP] New to PHP and the list

2010-09-11 Thread Tom Sparks
--- On Sun, 12/9/10, MikeB mpbr...@gmail.com wrote:

 From: MikeB mpbr...@gmail.com
 Subject: [PHP] New to PHP and the list
 To: php-general@lists.php.net
 Received: Sunday, 12 September, 2010, 9:37 AM
 Hello, I'm new to PHP and also new to
 using newsgroups/mailing lists directly. So if I make a
 mistake, please forgive me this once and I'll try to do
 better in the future.
 
 Please help me understand, my head is absolutely spinning
 and I can't
 get my mind around this.
 
 In the php.net site there is an example on uploading a file
 via a
 form. http://www.php.net/manual/en/features.file-upload.post-method.php

start off simpler with this version 
http://www.w3schools.com/php/php_file_upload.asp

tom





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Re: [PHP] New to PHP and the list

2010-09-11 Thread MikeB

On 9/11/2010 6:51 PM, Tom Sparks wrote:

--- On Sun, 12/9/10, MikeBmpbr...@gmail.com  wrote:


From: MikeBmpbr...@gmail.com
Subject: [PHP] New to PHP and the list
To: php-general@lists.php.net
Received: Sunday, 12 September, 2010, 9:37 AM
Hello, I'm new to PHP and also new to
using newsgroups/mailing lists directly. So if I make a
mistake, please forgive me this once and I'll try to do
better in the future.

Please help me understand, my head is absolutely spinning
and I can't
get my mind around this.

In the php.net site there is an example on uploading a file
via a
form. http://www.php.net/manual/en/features.file-upload.post-method.php


start off simpler with this version 
http://www.w3schools.com/php/php_file_upload.asp



I think I have that much under my belt, I'm more or less trying to dig a 
little deeper.


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Re: [PHP] How to handle a submitted form with no changes -- best practices sought

2010-09-11 Thread viraj
On Sat, Sep 11, 2010 at 10:22 PM, Tamara Temple tamouse.li...@gmail.com wrote:
 I have a general question and am looking for best practices.

 Is it worth the overhead of passing along the previous values in the table
 in hidden fields so that fields can be checked to see if they've been

without storing all the values in respective hidden fields, calculate
a 'checksum' on data and store in one hidden field. after the submit
and before you decide on the update, you can calculate the checksum of
submitted data, compare against the hidden field checksum and take the
decision.

if you maintain a session, storing checksum in session instead of
client side (hidden field in form) will be more safe/secure and will
help in improving the mechanism (persistent classes, serialized data
etc)


~viraj


 updated or not after the submit? Or is it worth reloading the old values
 from the table to check against the newly submitted form? Or is all that
 overhead not worth the time because an update that overwrites existing
 values with the same values is not that onerous?

 (Is that question clear enough?)

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Re: [PHP] New to PHP and the list

2010-09-11 Thread viraj
On Sun, Sep 12, 2010 at 5:07 AM, MikeB mpbr...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hello, I'm new to PHP and also new to using newsgroups/mailing lists
 directly. So if I make a mistake, please forgive me this once and I'll try
 to do better in the future.

 Please help me understand, my head is absolutely spinning and I can't
 get my mind around this.

 In the php.net site there is an example on uploading a file via a
 form. http://www.php.net/manual/en/features.file-upload.post-method.php

 This is the sample code for the form:

 form enctype=multipart/form-data action=__URL__ method=POST
    !-- MAX_FILE_SIZE must precede the file input field --
    input type=hidden name=MAX_FILE_SIZE value=3 /
    !-- Name of input element determines name in $_FILES array --
    Send this file: input name=userfile type=file /
    input type=submit value=Send File /
 /form

 Is MAX_FILE_SIZE passed to PHP as $MAX_FILE_SIZE?

err! print_r and var_dump is your friend!


 Assuming I want to make it a variable in my PHP code, can I do this:

 ?php

 $MAX_FILE_SIZE = 3;

 echo _END
 form enctype=multipart/form-data action=__URL__ method=POST
    !-- MAX_FILE_SIZE must precede the file input field --
    input type=hidden name=MAX_FILE_SIZE  /
    !-- Name of input element determines name in $_FILES array --
    Send this file: input name=userfile type=file /
    input type=submit value=Send File /
 /form
 _END
 ?

 In other words, simply omitting the value clause in the form field?

 And can I make that value a global constant somehow so that I can
 later also test the actual size of the uploaded file in another
 function?

if this is about getting the size of the uploaded file, you better try
print_r($_FILES) after the form submit. there you have size in bytes.

MAX_FILE_SIZE in html form will be used to early notify the up-loader,
in case of a bigger file which exceeds the server side limit imposed
through php.ini. (see http://www.php.net/manual/en/ini.core.php file
uploads section)


 Or do I have to do this:

 ?php

 $MAX_UPLOAD_SIZE = 3;
 _END
 ?

 I'm also concerned that in the first instance, a malicious user can
 modify the value and I will be hosed. Am I correct?

and yes, never trust client side.


~viraj


 Thanks.

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[PHP] Re: How to handle a submitted form with no changes -- best practices sought

2010-09-11 Thread Shawn McKenzie
On 09/11/2010 11:52 AM, Tamara Temple wrote:
 I have a general question and am looking for best practices.
 
 Suppose I present a user with a form for editing an entry in a table,
 i.e., the form has filled in values from the existing table entry.
 
 Now, suppose they click on 'submit' without making any changes in the
 form. (Perhaps, say, rather than clicking 'Cancel' or 'Return to Main'
 or some other option which would get them out of that screen without
 submitting the form).
 
 Is it worth the overhead of passing along the previous values in the
 table in hidden fields so that fields can be checked to see if they've
 been updated or not after the submit? Or is it worth reloading the old
 values from the table to check against the newly submitted form? Or is
 all that overhead not worth the time because an update that overwrites
 existing values with the same values is not that onerous?
 
 (Is that question clear enough?)

I would just submit the query.  Unless you have hundreds or thousands of
users per second that load the form and submit the form with no changes,
then there really is no problem.

It could however be a problem if there is a BOT or something that
continually submits to your page.  In that case (and in general) I would
recommend using a form token that helps guard against this.


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[PHP] Re: php cli question

2010-09-11 Thread Shawn McKenzie
On 09/10/2010 11:13 AM, J Ravi Menon wrote:
 Hi,
 
 I have some basic questions on running php  (5.2.x series on Linux
 2.6) as a standalone daemon using posix methods (fork() etc..):
 
 #!/usr/bin/php
 ?php
 
 require_once ('someclass.php');
 
 // do some initializations
 .
 
 // main 'forever' loop - the '$shutdown'  will
 // be set to true via a signal handler
 
 while(!$shutdown)
 {
   $a = new SomeClass();
 
   $a-doSomething()
 
 }
 
 // shutdown logic.
 
 The 'someclass.php' in turn will include other files (via require_once).
 
 The above file will be executed directly from the shell. The main loop
 could be listening to new requests via sockets etc..
 
 Few questions:
 
 1) Does opcode cache really matter in such cli-based daemons? As
 'SomeClass' is instantiated at every loop, I am assuming it is only
 compiled once as it has already been 'seen'.
 I am not very clear on how apc (or eaccelerator) works in such cases.
 
 
 2) What about garbage collection? In a standard apache-mod-php setup,
 we rely on the end of a request-cycle to free up resources - close
 file descriptiors, free up memory etc..
 I am assuming in the aforesaid standalone daemon case, we would
 have to do this manually?  In the loop above, would it be better to
 'unset($a)' explicitly at the end of it before
 it goes to the next iteration?
 
 Note: I have written pre-forker deamons in php directly and
 successfully deployed them in the past, but never looked at in depth
 to understand all the nuances. Anecdotally, I have
 done 'unset()' at some critical places were large arrays were used,
 and I think it helped. AFAIK, unlike Java, there is no 'garbage
 collector' thread that does all the magic?
 
 Thanks,
 Ravi

If I have time when you reply I'll answer the questions, but I must ask:
 Is this purely academic?  Why is this a concern?  Have you encountered
issues?  If so, what?

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