php-general Digest 1 Jan 2012 16:26:54 -0000 Issue 7631

2012-01-01 Thread php-general-digest-help

php-general Digest 1 Jan 2012 16:26:54 - Issue 7631

Topics (messages 316140 through 316143):

Re: array
316140 by: Ashley Sheridan
316141 by: Govinda

Re: Error in portuguese translation of substr_compare
316142 by: Daniel P. Brown

count clicks to count most important news
316143 by: muad shibani

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On Sat, 2011-12-31 at 14:53 +0100, saeed ahmed wrote:

 how can you explain someone in a simplest and everyday use example of ARRAY.
 


The manual page explains it pretty succinctly. I don't think you'll get
more simple than this, as there is obvious prerequisite knowledge
assumed (i.e. that you know what a simple variable is, etc)
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 how can you explain someone in a simplest and everyday use example of ARRAY.
 
 The manual page explains it pretty succinctly. I don't think you'll get
 more simple than this, as there is obvious prerequisite knowledge
 assumed (i.e. that you know what a simple variable is, etc)

Hi saeed,

Ash means this:

http://www.php.net/manual/en/language.types.array.php

See the examples in grey-colored boxes.

Arrays are just a collection of things.  Similar to when you assign one 
variable one value.. well with an array you assign many variables one value 
each.  But the reason you use an array is that instead of a bunch of separate 
variables, you want those variables to be part of a collection..  i.e. all 
those variables have something in common.. like for example you might use one 
array to describe the parts of a car, and another array to describe all the 
fruits in your kitchen.

You could do this:  (all separate independent variables)

$part1 = 'spark plug';
$part2 = 'rear-view mirror';
$part3 = 'steering wheel';
etc.

$fruit1 = 'apple';
$fruit2 = 'banana';
$fruit3 = 'orange';
etc.

...but (depending on your application, and the logic you use), it might make 
more sense to do something like this instead: (make arrays!)

(these, below, are arrays where the key is just a number which is automatically 
assigned.  You can also use another syntax (see the manual) to make arrays 
where you generate your own custom keys, and those keys can be strings instead 
of numbers.)

$arrParts = array('spark plug', 'rear-view mirror', 'steering wheel');

$arrFruits = array('apple', 'banana', 'orange');


To use the arrays, there are tons of functions:

http://www.php.net/manual/en/ref.array.php

:-)

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Forwarded to the proper address.

Docs PT/PT-BR folks, please see the below email.  Thanks, and
happy new year!


On Fri, Dec 30, 2011 at 14:35, QI.VOLMAR QI qi.vol...@gmail.com wrote:
 I was read substr_compare description in portuguese language, an I
 asked myself to test it, so after several test, I found that its
 wrong.
 The text is in Portuguese:
           Se length é igual ou maior que o comprimento de main_str e
 length é setado, substr_compare() imprime warning e retorna FALSE.

 That is translated:
          If length is equal or bigger than size of main_str and
 length is setted, substr_compare() prints a warning and return FALSE

 The original is:
          If offset is equal to or greater than the length of main_str
 or length is set and is less than 1, substr_compare() prints a warning
 and returns FALSE.

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I have a website that posts the most important news according to the number
of clicks to that news
the question is : what is the best  way to prevent multiple clicks from the
same visitor?
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[PHP] count clicks to count most important news

2012-01-01 Thread muad shibani
I have a website that posts the most important news according to the number
of clicks to that news
the question is : what is the best  way to prevent multiple clicks from the
same visitor?


Re: [PHP] count clicks to count most important news

2012-01-01 Thread Tedd Sperling
On Jan 1, 2012, at 11:26 AM, muad shibani wrote:

 I have a website that posts the most important news according to the number
 of clicks to that news
 the question is : what is the best  way to prevent multiple clicks from the
 same visitor?

Not a fool-proof method, but use Javascript on the client-side to stop users' 
from continuous clicking.

Then create a token and verify the click on the server-side before considering 
the click as being acceptable.

Cheers,

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Re: [PHP] count clicks to count most important news

2012-01-01 Thread Ashley Sheridan
On Sun, 2012-01-01 at 11:49 -0500, Tedd Sperling wrote:

 On Jan 1, 2012, at 11:26 AM, muad shibani wrote:
 
  I have a website that posts the most important news according to the number
  of clicks to that news
  the question is : what is the best  way to prevent multiple clicks from the
  same visitor?
 
 Not a fool-proof method, but use Javascript on the client-side to stop users' 
 from continuous clicking.
 
 Then create a token and verify the click on the server-side before 
 considering the click as being acceptable.
 
 Cheers,
 
 tedd 
 
 
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There are still problems with this, GET data (which essentially only
what a clicked link would produce if you leave Javascript out the
equation - you can't rely on Javascript) shouldn't be used to trigger a
change on the server (in your case a counter increment)

I did something similar for a competition site a few years ago, and
stupidly didn't think about this at the time. Someone ended up gaming
the system by including an image with the clicked-through URL in the src
attribute, and put that on their MySpace profile page, which had more
than a few visitors. Each of those visitors browser attempted to grab
that image which registered a click, and because of the number of
unique visitors, the clicks were registered as genuine.

I'd recommend using POST data for this reason, as it's a lot more
difficult for people to game.
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Re: [PHP] count clicks to count most important news

2012-01-01 Thread Maciek Sokolewicz

On 01-01-2012 20:08, Ashley Sheridan wrote:

On Sun, 2012-01-01 at 11:49 -0500, Tedd Sperling wrote:


On Jan 1, 2012, at 11:26 AM, muad shibani wrote:


I have a website that posts the most important news according to the number
of clicks to that news
the question is : what is the best  way to prevent multiple clicks from the
same visitor?


Not a fool-proof method, but use Javascript on the client-side to stop users' 
from continuous clicking.

Then create a token and verify the click on the server-side before considering 
the click as being acceptable.

Cheers,

tedd


_
t...@sperling.com
http://sperling.com








There are still problems with this, GET data (which essentially only
what a clicked link would produce if you leave Javascript out the
equation - you can't rely on Javascript) shouldn't be used to trigger a
change on the server (in your case a counter increment)

I did something similar for a competition site a few years ago, and
stupidly didn't think about this at the time. Someone ended up gaming
the system by including an image with the clicked-through URL in the src
attribute, and put that on their MySpace profile page, which had more
than a few visitors. Each of those visitors browser attempted to grab
that image which registered a click, and because of the number of
unique visitors, the clicks were registered as genuine.

I'd recommend using POST data for this reason, as it's a lot more
difficult for people to game.


I agree, POST data is indeed the way to go here. Personally, I would use 
a like image-like thing which is actually a button, using some clever 
javascript (personally I would use jquery for this) you can then POST 
data to the server based on the click. Then set a cookie which disables 
the button (and keeps it disabled on future visits). This should prevent 
average person from repeatedly clicking it. You could also log the 
person's IP adress and filter based on that aswell; combining various 
methods would be best in this case I think.


To prevent the method which Ashley mentioned, using POST data isn't 
enough. You would want to guarantee that the link came from YOUR server 
instead of some different place. There are multiple ways to do this:
- use a unique key as an argument in the POST which can only be 
clicked once. Register the key in a database before serving the page, 
and then unregister it once it has been served and clicked. Though if a 
person were to repeatedly open the page, your cache would be exhausted, 
and the method would become useless.
- require a referrer address to come from your domain; also reasonably 
easily circumvented in this case
- there are more, but it really depends on how much effort you want to 
put into preventing attacks and how much effort you expect others to put 
into attacking it. For example, large sites like youtube are sure to use 
extensive measures to prevent people from spam-clicking in any way. 
While sites that only cater to say 3 visitors a month don't require all 
that effort in the first place.


Hope that helps,
- Tul

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Re: [PHP] count clicks to count most important news

2012-01-01 Thread Stuart Dallas
On 1 Jan 2012, at 16:26, muad shibani wrote:

 I have a website that posts the most important news according to the number
 of clicks to that news
 the question is : what is the best  way to prevent multiple clicks from the
 same visitor?

I'm assuming this is not a voting system, and the news items you're counting 
are sourced from your own site and, with all due respect to Ash, unlikely to be 
a target for false clicks. All you're really wanting to do is prevent the site 
from registering multiple hits from the same user in a short period of time.

I would probably use memcached on the server-side to store short-term 
information about clicks. When a news item is loaded...

1) Construct the memcache key: newsclick_article_id_ip_address.
2) Fetch the key from memcache.
3a) If it does not exist, log the hit.
3b) If it does exist, compare time() with the value and only log the hit if 
time() is greater.
4) Store the key with a value of time() + 300 and an expiry of the same value.

This will prevent hits being logged for the same news item from the same IP 
address within 5 minutes of other hits.

Other alternatives would be to use cookies (could get messy, and not very 
reliable since it requires the response from click 1 to be processed before 
click 2 gets started), Javascript (as suggested by tedd but without the token - 
it would work pretty well and would be a lot easier to implement than the 
above, but you sacrifice having full control over it).

If I'm interpreting the requirement correctly my solution is almost certainly 
overkill, and a simple Javascript solution would be more than sufficient.

-Stuart

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Re: [PHP] count clicks to count most important news

2012-01-01 Thread muad shibani
All the answers are great but Stuart Dallas' answer is what I was asking
about .. thank u all I really appreciate it a lot

On Sun, Jan 1, 2012 at 11:10 PM, Stuart Dallas stu...@3ft9.com wrote:

 On 1 Jan 2012, at 16:26, muad shibani wrote:

  I have a website that posts the most important news according to the
 number
  of clicks to that news
  the question is : what is the best  way to prevent multiple clicks from
 the
  same visitor?

 I'm assuming this is not a voting system, and the news items you're
 counting are sourced from your own site and, with all due respect to Ash,
 unlikely to be a target for false clicks. All you're really wanting to do
 is prevent the site from registering multiple hits from the same user in a
 short period of time.

 I would probably use memcached on the server-side to store short-term
 information about clicks. When a news item is loaded...

 1) Construct the memcache key: newsclick_article_id_ip_address.
 2) Fetch the key from memcache.
 3a) If it does not exist, log the hit.
 3b) If it does exist, compare time() with the value and only log the hit
 if time() is greater.
 4) Store the key with a value of time() + 300 and an expiry of the same
 value.

 This will prevent hits being logged for the same news item from the same
 IP address within 5 minutes of other hits.

 Other alternatives would be to use cookies (could get messy, and not very
 reliable since it requires the response from click 1 to be processed before
 click 2 gets started), Javascript (as suggested by tedd but without the
 token - it would work pretty well and would be a lot easier to implement
 than the above, but you sacrifice having full control over it).

 If I'm interpreting the requirement correctly my solution is almost
 certainly overkill, and a simple Javascript solution would be more than
 sufficient.

 -Stuart

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[PHP] PHP 5.3.2 max_execution_time

2012-01-01 Thread Chris Tapp
I've got a Dokuwiki installation that is producing Apache errors  
saying that the maximum execution time of 30 seconds has been exceeded.


So, I went and changed max_execution_time in php.ini expecting that  
this would solve the problem (which is due to large files taking a  
while to upload over an ADSL connection). However, the error log still  
reports that the old 30 second value is in use, even though Apache has  
been restarted.


phpinfo() for the same site reports max_execution_time as 120 seconds,  
so it seems as if the change to php.ini has been detected as expected.  
Is there another setting that I need to consider? max_input_time is  
already set to 60 seconds and there are no local 'php_value' Apache  
configuration items fighting the ones in php.ini.


PHP version is 5.3.2 and is running under a CentOS 6.0 system.

Chris Tapp

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Re: [PHP] Question about date calculations

2012-01-01 Thread Matijn Woudt
On Fri, Dec 30, 2011 at 5:33 PM, Eric Lommatsch er...@pivotaldata.net wrote:

 When I try this method:



 $interval = $dteStartDate[$intCnt]-diff($dteEndDate[$intCnt]); I get the 
 following error when I run the page:

  Fatal error : Call to undefined method DateTime::diff() in 
 /var/www/evalHomeLime.php on line 254


Just for the record: As noted on the manpage [1], your PHP version
needs to be = 5.3.0.

Cheers,

Matijn

[1] http://www.php.net/manual/en/datetime.diff.php

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Re: [PHP] PHP 5.3.2 max_execution_time

2012-01-01 Thread Duken Marga
If you want to upload large file, maybe you should consider maximum
uploaded size. You can change setting in php.ini on line that contain *
upload_max_filesize*.

On Mon, Jan 2, 2012 at 5:13 AM, Chris Tapp opensou...@keylevel.com wrote:

 I've got a Dokuwiki installation that is producing Apache errors saying
 that the maximum execution time of 30 seconds has been exceeded.

 So, I went and changed max_execution_time in php.ini expecting that this
 would solve the problem (which is due to large files taking a while to
 upload over an ADSL connection). However, the error log still reports that
 the old 30 second value is in use, even though Apache has been restarted.

 phpinfo() for the same site reports max_execution_time as 120 seconds, so
 it seems as if the change to php.ini has been detected as expected. Is
 there another setting that I need to consider? max_input_time is already
 set to 60 seconds and there are no local 'php_value' Apache configuration
 items fighting the ones in php.ini.

 PHP version is 5.3.2 and is running under a CentOS 6.0 system.

 Chris Tapp

 opensou...@keylevel.com
 www.keylevel.com




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