Re: [PHP] PHP session variables
On Aug 13, 2012 8:01 AM, "Robert Cummings" wrote: > > On 12-08-10 04:42 PM, Tedd Sperling wrote: >> >> On Aug 10, 2012, at 1:21 PM, Ege Sertçetin wrote: >> >>> Hi. My question will maybe out of topic, I'm sorry. >>> How can you know that one way will be much slower than other one? I mean, how can I learn which function is faster before I test it? >> >> >> Ege: >> >> No your question is on topic. >> >> This question should be asked on the list, so I'll present Q:A instead of answering privately >> >> http://www.webbytedd.com/b/timed1/ >> >> The code is there -- if you have questions, please post them to the list. > > > Ted, > > Please see the current signature for microtime(): > > mixed microtime ([ bool $get_as_float = false ] ) > > The optional paramter was added in PHP 5.0.0. I think it's safe to update your habits :) > > Cheers, > Rob. > -- > E-Mail Disclaimer: Information contained in this message and any > attached documents is considered confidential and legally protected. > This message is intended solely for the addressee(s). Disclosure, > copying, and distribution are prohibited unless authorized. > > > -- > PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) > To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php > What are the timing values if you do something besides session start with no close?
Re: [PHP] Reading class variable value always returns NULL
Hi, Thanks for your input Robert and Volmar! I have googled again with "instance variable" instead of "class variable" - but have not found any similar reports. I'm pretty sure those are the same objects. The application usually runs alright. We only see the instance variables becoming NULL since about a week. We had 3 small software upgrade coming from debian since we observe the problem. We think they cannot be related. Still we have reverted all of those and still see the problem. Next step is that we setup a exact copy of the machine. Maybe it is a hardware problem... Thanks, Reto On Mon, Aug 13, 2012 at 5:09 PM, Robert Cummings wrote: > On 12-08-12 08:32 AM, Reto Kaiser wrote: >> >> Hi, >> >> So I have this strange situation where I assign a classvariable a >> value, but when I read the value it is NULL. >> >> The class has one variable declared: >> = >> class A { >> private $_cookies; >> } >> = > > > That is a private instance variable NOT a class variable. > > To declare a class variable you would do the following: > > > class A > { > private static $_cookies; > } > > ?> > > >> In a method of this class I assign this classvariable plus an >> undeclared classvariable and a local variable the value 1: >> = >> $this->_cookies = 1; >> $this->_cookies2 = 1; >> $cookies3 = 1; >> = >> >> When I now read the values of those variables, the classvariables are >> NULL while the local variable is 1: >> = >> $logEntry .= 'cookies: ' . var_export($this->_cookies, true) . PHP_EOL; >> $logEntry .= 'cookies2: ' . var_export($this->_cookies2, true) . PHP_EOL; >> $logEntry .= 'cookies3: ' . var_export($cookies3, true) . PHP_EOL; >> = >> cookies: NULL >> cookies2: NULL >> cookies3: 1 >> = >> >> But when reading the whole object, the classvariables are 1: >> = >> $logEntry .= var_export($this, true) . PHP_EOL; >> = >> A::__set_state(array( >> '_cookies' => 1, >> '_cookies2' => 1, >> )) >> = >> >> >> This happens periodically on a busy webserver. It seems that when it >> happens, all classvariables cannot be read anymore (return NULL). >> After restarting Apache it does not happen anymore, just to happen >> again after some minutes. >> >> The system is current Debian Squeeze: >> Linux: linux-image-2.6.32-5-amd64 >> Apache: apache2-mpm-prefork 2.2.16-6+squeeze7 >> PHP: PHP 5.3.3-7+squeeze13 with Suhosin-Patch (cli) (built: Jun 10 >> 2012 07:31:32) >> php -m: >> https://raw.github.com/gist/3331641/2f7e80bd03abfb728b659634d3f4bac0131f4d6a/gistfile1.txt >> php -i: >> https://raw.github.com/gist/3331651/bcf6e3654bf391482627505447848de173d0bbab/gistfile1.txt >> >> Does anyone have an idea what could cause this, or how to further debug? > > > I can't really speak to your specific problem (unless you're using two > different instances of the class), just thought I'd clear up the difference > between class variables and instance variables. > > Cheers, > Rob. > -- > E-Mail Disclaimer: Information contained in this message and any > attached documents is considered confidential and legally protected. > This message is intended solely for the addressee(s). Disclosure, > copying, and distribution are prohibited unless authorized. -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
[PHP] PHP APC 3.1.11
Hi, PHP APC 3.1.11 is marked beta, however it seems to contain important bugfixes. Is it safe to deploy on production (we're currently using 3.1.9)? Or it is better to wait for 'stable' release. When is next 'stable' expected? Vedran Rodic -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] PHP session variables
On Aug 13, 2012, at 10:59 AM, Robert Cummings wrote: > On 12-08-10 04:42 PM, Tedd Sperling wrote: >> On Aug 10, 2012, at 1:21 PM, Ege Sertçetin wrote: >> >>> Hi. My question will maybe out of topic, I'm sorry. >>> How can you know that one way will be much slower than other one? I mean, >>> how can I learn which function is faster before I test it? >> >> Ege: >> >> No your question is on topic. >> >> This question should be asked on the list, so I'll present Q:A instead of >> answering privately >> >> http://www.webbytedd.com/b/timed1/ >> >> The code is there -- if you have questions, please post them to the list. > > Ted, > > Please see the current signature for microtime(): > >mixed microtime ([ bool $get_as_float = false ] ) > > The optional paramter was added in PHP 5.0.0. I think it's safe to update > your habits :) > > Cheers, > Rob. Rob: Fixed. Thanks -- my habits are always in a state of being updated -- just ask my wife. Cheers, tedd _ t...@sperling.com http://sperling.com -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] about unlink
On Tue, Aug 14, 2012 at 4:22 AM, Tolga wrote: > hi, i have a very annoying problem with unlink() > i use win7 and wamp server (apache 2.2.22 & php 5.4.3) > when i try to use unlink: > > SCREAM: Error suppression ignored for > Warning: unlink(aaa/bbb.ccc): Permission denied in C:\wamp\www\ddd\index.php > on line /34/ What are the specific ownership and permission mode properties on that exact file and directory? > neither the folder, nor the files are read-only. i give every user on win, > all the permissions on folders & files. > i look on google for same error, but nothing useful. some says 'you need to > give PHP delete permission' but didnt say how. i run wamp with Run as > Administrator. > by the way, php can write, create > (copy(),file_put_contents(),move_uploaded_file(),mkdir()) files or folders. > there is no problem with it and there is no problem with deleting (rmdir) > folders too. but there is problem when it comes to the deleting files. Hopefully that's just for development, and you're making much more serious security considerations for anything production-worthy or even simply network-facing. > i really need some suggestions about how to solve this, its really annoying > and i dont want to throw my pc to the wall or punch it on the screen. Yeah, neither option would resolve the issue anymore. The monitor-punch-fix feature was removed in PHP 3.0.4. -- Network Infrastructure Manager http://www.php.net/ -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] PHP APC 3.1.11
On Tue, Aug 14, 2012 at 7:14 AM, Vedran Rodic wrote: > Hi, > > PHP APC 3.1.11 is marked beta, however it seems to contain important bugfixes. > > Is it safe to deploy on production (we're currently using 3.1.9)? Or > it is better to wait for 'stable' release. When is next 'stable' > expected? This question is better directed to the PECL development mailing list (CC'd). You can - and should - subscribe to that list by sending a blank email to pecl-dev-subscr...@lists.php.net if you want to follow along with the discussion and ensure that you receive all messages in the thread. -- Network Infrastructure Manager http://www.php.net/ -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] PHP session variables
On 12-08-14 10:41 AM, Tedd Sperling wrote: On Aug 13, 2012, at 10:59 AM, Robert Cummings wrote: On 12-08-10 04:42 PM, Tedd Sperling wrote: On Aug 10, 2012, at 1:21 PM, Ege Sertçetin wrote: Hi. My question will maybe out of topic, I'm sorry. How can you know that one way will be much slower than other one? I mean, how can I learn which function is faster before I test it? Ege: No your question is on topic. This question should be asked on the list, so I'll present Q:A instead of answering privately http://www.webbytedd.com/b/timed1/ The code is there -- if you have questions, please post them to the list. Ted, Please see the current signature for microtime(): mixed microtime ([ bool $get_as_float = false ] ) The optional paramter was added in PHP 5.0.0. I think it's safe to update your habits :) Cheers, Rob. Rob: Fixed. Thanks -- my habits are always in a state of being updated -- just ask my wife. I'm not sure if you're making a joke, but your changes have no effect. You've merely explicitly stated the optional parameter's default value. What I had meant was to change the following: To the following :) Cheers, Rob. -- E-Mail Disclaimer: Information contained in this message and any attached documents is considered confidential and legally protected. This message is intended solely for the addressee(s). Disclosure, copying, and distribution are prohibited unless authorized. -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] Reading class variable value always returns NULL
Hi, We have since deployed another webserver machine and observe the exact same behavior there. So it is not a hardware problem. We have also disabled various php modules, but this didn't help either. Any debug suggestions are welcome! :) Reto On Tue, Aug 14, 2012 at 10:40 AM, Reto Kaiser wrote: > Hi, > > Thanks for your input Robert and Volmar! I have googled again with > "instance variable" instead of "class variable" - but have not found > any similar reports. > > I'm pretty sure those are the same objects. The application usually > runs alright. We only see the instance variables becoming NULL since > about a week. > > We had 3 small software upgrade coming from debian since we observe > the problem. We think they cannot be related. Still we have reverted > all of those and still see the problem. > Next step is that we setup a exact copy of the machine. Maybe it is a > hardware problem... > > Thanks, > Reto > > On Mon, Aug 13, 2012 at 5:09 PM, Robert Cummings wrote: >> On 12-08-12 08:32 AM, Reto Kaiser wrote: >>> >>> Hi, >>> >>> So I have this strange situation where I assign a classvariable a >>> value, but when I read the value it is NULL. >>> >>> The class has one variable declared: >>> = >>> class A { >>> private $_cookies; >>> } >>> = >> >> >> That is a private instance variable NOT a class variable. >> >> To declare a class variable you would do the following: >> >> > >> class A >> { >> private static $_cookies; >> } >> >> ?> >> >> >>> In a method of this class I assign this classvariable plus an >>> undeclared classvariable and a local variable the value 1: >>> = >>> $this->_cookies = 1; >>> $this->_cookies2 = 1; >>> $cookies3 = 1; >>> = >>> >>> When I now read the values of those variables, the classvariables are >>> NULL while the local variable is 1: >>> = >>> $logEntry .= 'cookies: ' . var_export($this->_cookies, true) . PHP_EOL; >>> $logEntry .= 'cookies2: ' . var_export($this->_cookies2, true) . PHP_EOL; >>> $logEntry .= 'cookies3: ' . var_export($cookies3, true) . PHP_EOL; >>> = >>> cookies: NULL >>> cookies2: NULL >>> cookies3: 1 >>> = >>> >>> But when reading the whole object, the classvariables are 1: >>> = >>> $logEntry .= var_export($this, true) . PHP_EOL; >>> = >>> A::__set_state(array( >>> '_cookies' => 1, >>> '_cookies2' => 1, >>> )) >>> = >>> >>> >>> This happens periodically on a busy webserver. It seems that when it >>> happens, all classvariables cannot be read anymore (return NULL). >>> After restarting Apache it does not happen anymore, just to happen >>> again after some minutes. >>> >>> The system is current Debian Squeeze: >>> Linux: linux-image-2.6.32-5-amd64 >>> Apache: apache2-mpm-prefork 2.2.16-6+squeeze7 >>> PHP: PHP 5.3.3-7+squeeze13 with Suhosin-Patch (cli) (built: Jun 10 >>> 2012 07:31:32) >>> php -m: >>> https://raw.github.com/gist/3331641/2f7e80bd03abfb728b659634d3f4bac0131f4d6a/gistfile1.txt >>> php -i: >>> https://raw.github.com/gist/3331651/bcf6e3654bf391482627505447848de173d0bbab/gistfile1.txt >>> >>> Does anyone have an idea what could cause this, or how to further debug? >> >> >> I can't really speak to your specific problem (unless you're using two >> different instances of the class), just thought I'd clear up the difference >> between class variables and instance variables. >> >> Cheers, >> Rob. >> -- >> E-Mail Disclaimer: Information contained in this message and any >> attached documents is considered confidential and legally protected. >> This message is intended solely for the addressee(s). Disclosure, >> copying, and distribution are prohibited unless authorized. -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] Reading class variable value always returns NULL
I'm not real clear on what's happening. Are you saying that if you assign values to the protected class members, and then immediately read them, that they're null? So, there's code something like this: class Foo { public function Something() { $this->foo = 1; //shows null instead of 1 var_dump($this->foo); } protected $foo; } Is that right? Regards, Bob -- Robert E. Williams, Jr. Associate Vice President of Software Development Newtek Businesss Services, Inc. -- The Small Business Authority https://www.newtekreferrals.com/rewjr http://www.thesba.com/ Notice: This communication, including attachments, may contain information that is confidential. It constitutes non-public information intended to be conveyed only to the designated recipient(s). If the reader or recipient of this communication is not the intended recipient, an employee or agent of the intended recipient who is responsible for delivering it to the intended recipient, or if you believe that you have received this communication in error, please notify the sender immediately by return e-mail and promptly delete this e-mail, including attachments without reading or saving them in any manner. The unauthorized use, dissemination, distribution, or reproduction of this e-mail, including attachments, is prohibited and may be unlawful. If you have received this email in error, please notify us immediately by e-mail or telephone and delete the e-mail and the attachments (if any). -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] Reading class variable value always returns NULL
On 08/12/2012 05:32 AM, Reto Kaiser wrote: Hi, So I have this strange situation where I assign a classvariable a value, but when I read the value it is NULL. Does anyone have an idea what could cause this, or how to further debug? Thanks, Reto What is your error reporting set to? Do you have display errors turned on? Are you saving your errors to a log file? -- Jim Lucas http://www.cmsws.com/ http://www.cmsws.com/examples/ -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] Reading class variable value always returns NULL
Hey, We have: error_reporting((E_ALL | E_STRICT) & ~(E_NOTICE | E_USER_NOTICE)); Displaying errors is disabled: display_errors = Off We have a custom error handler which logs all errors to a file. In this file we receive byeffect errors, like that the second argument to "array_key_exists" should be array, but is NULL. When we further debug the reason is that the second argument is an instance variable, and all instance variables are NULL. We're pretty sure this is a software bug, since it only happens from time to time, and already happens in the first line of the php script, when none of our application code was loaded. For example: foo = 1; if ($a->foo === null) { throw new Exception("strange"); } will throw an exception. Since it only happens from time to time, it is really hard to debug. We're now trying to reproduce in a virtual machine environment, while replaying the actual requests that our webserver received. When we're just simulating random load on the web server it doesn't happen. So it must have something to do with certain requests, and they must have some strange byeffect on php, or mod_php or something related. Any input welcome! Thanks, Reto On Tue, Aug 14, 2012 at 11:11 PM, Jim Lucas wrote: > On 08/12/2012 05:32 AM, Reto Kaiser wrote: >> >> Hi, >> >> So I have this strange situation where I assign a classvariable a >> value, but when I read the value it is NULL. >> >> Does anyone have an idea what could cause this, or how to further debug? >> >> Thanks, >> Reto >> > > What is your error reporting set to? > > Do you have display errors turned on? > > Are you saving your errors to a log file? > > -- > Jim Lucas > > http://www.cmsws.com/ > http://www.cmsws.com/examples/ -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] PHP session variables
On Aug 14, 2012 1:36 AM, "tamouse mailing lists" wrote: > > > On Aug 13, 2012 8:01 AM, "Robert Cummings" wrote: > > > > On 12-08-10 04:42 PM, Tedd Sperling wrote: > >> > >> On Aug 10, 2012, at 1:21 PM, Ege Sertçetin wrote: > >> > >>> Hi. My question will maybe out of topic, I'm sorry. > >>> How can you know that one way will be much slower than other one? I mean, how can I learn which function is faster before I test it? > >> > >> > >> Ege: > >> > >> No your question is on topic. > >> > >> This question should be asked on the list, so I'll present Q:A instead of answering privately > >> > >> http://www.webbytedd.com/b/timed1/ > >> > >> The code is there -- if you have questions, please post them to the list. > > > > > > Ted, > > > > Please see the current signature for microtime(): > > > > mixed microtime ([ bool $get_as_float = false ] ) > > > > The optional paramter was added in PHP 5.0.0. I think it's safe to update your habits :) > > > > Cheers, > > Rob. > > -- > > E-Mail Disclaimer: Information contained in this message and any > > attached documents is considered confidential and legally protected. > > This message is intended solely for the addressee(s). Disclosure, > > copying, and distribution are prohibited unless authorized. > > > > > > -- > > PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) > > To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php > > > > What are the timing values if you do something besides session start with no close? Just to clarify, since at least 4.3.x subsequent calls session_start raise an E_NOTICE and are ignored, so you're first call is generating almost all the time.