Re: [PHP] CSV Files

2008-10-23 Thread Ashley Sheridan
On Wed, 2008-10-22 at 22:30 -0400, Andrew Ballard wrote:
 On Wed, Oct 22, 2008 at 10:15 PM, Jason Todd Slack-Moehrle
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  On Oct 22, 2008, at 6:58 PM, Stut wrote:
 
  On 23 Oct 2008, at 02:41, Jason Todd Slack-Moehrle wrote:
 
  Actually i am ending the row headers with a chr(10); // LINE FEED
 
  From the code you included in your original post...
 
  echo /n;
 
 
  There was no mention of chr(10).
 
  Outputting data in CSV format is not hard. Simply echo the header row if 
  necessary, followed by \n. Then output each line taking care to put 
  string values in quotes which means you also need to escape quotes in the 
  data. After each line echo \n. That's really all there is to it.
 
  If you're still having problems I suggest you post the exact code you're 
  using, anything else just makes it harder for us to provide effective help.
 
  -Stut
 
  On Oct 22, 2008, at 5:12 PM, Stut wrote:
 
  On 23 Oct 2008, at 00:59, Jason Todd Slack-Moehrle wrote:
 
  After I right out the column headers do I have to put a '/n' to have it 
  start a new line in the CSV file? I think I do.
 
  A new line is \n not /n, and it must be in double quotes () not single 
  (').
 
 
  Oh, I am not putting quotes around each field that i get from MySQL. There 
  are no quotes in the data so that is good.
 
  Sorry I put /n and I meant to put chr(10).
 
  -Jason
 
 
 Jason, one of the points that Stut was trying to explain is that \n
 and chr(10) are the same thing. They are just two different ways to
 refer to a newline (line feed) character. Most of us probably use \n
 rather than chr(10) in PHP, though. So, the following two lines are
 equivalent:
 
 ?php
 echo Item1, Item2, Item3 . chr(10);
 
 // Note this uses double quotes.
 echo Item1, Item2, Item3\n;
 
 // It won't be the same at all if you use single quotes
 echo 'Item1, Item2, Item3\n';
 
 ?
 
 At any rate, you are correct that you need a line feed/newline
 character at the end of every row in CSV including the header row.
 
 Andrew
 
A line feed and \n are not the same thing at all. Different operating
systems implemented a different method of line endings depending on what
they thought best, either a carriage return or line feed or both. a \n
is meant to be an OS agnostic way of implementing this in the various
programming languages, outputting something that any OS can understand
in the intended way.


Ash
www.ashleysheridan.co.uk


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Re: [PHP] CSV Files

2008-10-23 Thread Andrew Ballard
On Thu, Oct 23, 2008 at 2:22 AM, Ashley Sheridan
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On Wed, 2008-10-22 at 22:30 -0400, Andrew Ballard wrote:
 On Wed, Oct 22, 2008 at 10:15 PM, Jason Todd Slack-Moehrle
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  On Oct 22, 2008, at 6:58 PM, Stut wrote:
 
  On 23 Oct 2008, at 02:41, Jason Todd Slack-Moehrle wrote:
 
  Actually i am ending the row headers with a chr(10); // LINE FEED
 
  From the code you included in your original post...
 
  echo /n;
 
 
  There was no mention of chr(10).
 
  Outputting data in CSV format is not hard. Simply echo the header row if 
  necessary, followed by \n. Then output each line taking care to put 
  string values in quotes which means you also need to escape quotes in the 
  data. After each line echo \n. That's really all there is to it.
 
  If you're still having problems I suggest you post the exact code you're 
  using, anything else just makes it harder for us to provide effective 
  help.
 
  -Stut
 
  On Oct 22, 2008, at 5:12 PM, Stut wrote:
 
  On 23 Oct 2008, at 00:59, Jason Todd Slack-Moehrle wrote:
 
  After I right out the column headers do I have to put a '/n' to have 
  it start a new line in the CSV file? I think I do.
 
  A new line is \n not /n, and it must be in double quotes () not single 
  (').
 
 
  Oh, I am not putting quotes around each field that i get from MySQL. There 
  are no quotes in the data so that is good.
 
  Sorry I put /n and I meant to put chr(10).
 
  -Jason
 

 Jason, one of the points that Stut was trying to explain is that \n
 and chr(10) are the same thing. They are just two different ways to
 refer to a newline (line feed) character. Most of us probably use \n
 rather than chr(10) in PHP, though. So, the following two lines are
 equivalent:

 ?php
 echo Item1, Item2, Item3 . chr(10);

 // Note this uses double quotes.
 echo Item1, Item2, Item3\n;

 // It won't be the same at all if you use single quotes
 echo 'Item1, Item2, Item3\n';

 ?

 At any rate, you are correct that you need a line feed/newline
 character at the end of every row in CSV including the header row.

 Andrew

 A line feed and \n are not the same thing at all. Different operating
 systems implemented a different method of line endings depending on what
 they thought best, either a carriage return or line feed or both. a \n
 is meant to be an OS agnostic way of implementing this in the various
 programming languages, outputting something that any OS can understand
 in the intended way.


 Ash
 www.ashleysheridan.co.uk

As I understood, \n was strictly a line feed (ASCII character 10), not
an OS agnostic end-of-line terminator. It happens to be the line
terminator for *nix. Windows uses the combined carriage return and
line feed characters (ASCII characters 13 and 10) which are
represented by \r\n in PHP, while Mac used only the the carriage
return.  There is a PHP constant PHP_EOL that I'm pretty sure is
supposed to represent the line terminator defined on the operating
system of the computer executing the script, but I don't think it is
truly agnostic either. At least, if you have a text file saved in
Windows and split it on a Linux machine based on PHP_EOL, I believe
all of your array values will have a carriage return character hanging
on the end of them. Am I mistaken?

Andrew

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Re: [PHP] CSV Files

2008-10-23 Thread Ashley Sheridan
On Thu, 2008-10-23 at 02:26 -0400, Andrew Ballard wrote:
 On Thu, Oct 23, 2008 at 2:22 AM, Ashley Sheridan
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  On Wed, 2008-10-22 at 22:30 -0400, Andrew Ballard wrote:
  On Wed, Oct 22, 2008 at 10:15 PM, Jason Todd Slack-Moehrle
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   On Oct 22, 2008, at 6:58 PM, Stut wrote:
  
   On 23 Oct 2008, at 02:41, Jason Todd Slack-Moehrle wrote:
  
   Actually i am ending the row headers with a chr(10); // LINE FEED
  
   From the code you included in your original post...
  
   echo /n;
  
  
   There was no mention of chr(10).
  
   Outputting data in CSV format is not hard. Simply echo the header row 
   if necessary, followed by \n. Then output each line taking care to 
   put string values in quotes which means you also need to escape quotes 
   in the data. After each line echo \n. That's really all there is to 
   it.
  
   If you're still having problems I suggest you post the exact code 
   you're using, anything else just makes it harder for us to provide 
   effective help.
  
   -Stut
  
   On Oct 22, 2008, at 5:12 PM, Stut wrote:
  
   On 23 Oct 2008, at 00:59, Jason Todd Slack-Moehrle wrote:
  
   After I right out the column headers do I have to put a '/n' to have 
   it start a new line in the CSV file? I think I do.
  
   A new line is \n not /n, and it must be in double quotes () not 
   single (').
  
  
   Oh, I am not putting quotes around each field that i get from MySQL. 
   There are no quotes in the data so that is good.
  
   Sorry I put /n and I meant to put chr(10).
  
   -Jason
  
 
  Jason, one of the points that Stut was trying to explain is that \n
  and chr(10) are the same thing. They are just two different ways to
  refer to a newline (line feed) character. Most of us probably use \n
  rather than chr(10) in PHP, though. So, the following two lines are
  equivalent:
 
  ?php
  echo Item1, Item2, Item3 . chr(10);
 
  // Note this uses double quotes.
  echo Item1, Item2, Item3\n;
 
  // It won't be the same at all if you use single quotes
  echo 'Item1, Item2, Item3\n';
 
  ?
 
  At any rate, you are correct that you need a line feed/newline
  character at the end of every row in CSV including the header row.
 
  Andrew
 
  A line feed and \n are not the same thing at all. Different operating
  systems implemented a different method of line endings depending on what
  they thought best, either a carriage return or line feed or both. a \n
  is meant to be an OS agnostic way of implementing this in the various
  programming languages, outputting something that any OS can understand
  in the intended way.
 
 
  Ash
  www.ashleysheridan.co.uk
 
 As I understood, \n was strictly a line feed (ASCII character 10), not
 an OS agnostic end-of-line terminator. It happens to be the line
 terminator for *nix. Windows uses the combined carriage return and
 line feed characters (ASCII characters 13 and 10) which are
 represented by \r\n in PHP, while Mac used only the the carriage
 return.  There is a PHP constant PHP_EOL that I'm pretty sure is
 supposed to represent the line terminator defined on the operating
 system of the computer executing the script, but I don't think it is
 truly agnostic either. At least, if you have a text file saved in
 Windows and split it on a Linux machine based on PHP_EOL, I believe
 all of your array values will have a carriage return character hanging
 on the end of them. Am I mistaken?
 
 Andrew
I'm afraid I do disagree with your there:

When writing a file in text mode, '\n' is transparently translated to
the native newline sequence used by the system

This is from the Wikipedia article I found:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Newline



Ash
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Re: [PHP] CSV Files

2008-10-23 Thread Andrew Ballard
On Thu, Oct 23, 2008 at 2:54 AM, Ashley Sheridan
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On Thu, 2008-10-23 at 02:26 -0400, Andrew Ballard wrote:
 On Thu, Oct 23, 2008 at 2:22 AM, Ashley Sheridan
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  On Wed, 2008-10-22 at 22:30 -0400, Andrew Ballard wrote:
  On Wed, Oct 22, 2008 at 10:15 PM, Jason Todd Slack-Moehrle
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   On Oct 22, 2008, at 6:58 PM, Stut wrote:
  
   On 23 Oct 2008, at 02:41, Jason Todd Slack-Moehrle wrote:
  
   Actually i am ending the row headers with a chr(10); // LINE FEED
  
   From the code you included in your original post...
  
   echo /n;
  
  
   There was no mention of chr(10).
  
   Outputting data in CSV format is not hard. Simply echo the header row 
   if necessary, followed by \n. Then output each line taking care to 
   put string values in quotes which means you also need to escape quotes 
   in the data. After each line echo \n. That's really all there is to 
   it.
  
   If you're still having problems I suggest you post the exact code 
   you're using, anything else just makes it harder for us to provide 
   effective help.
  
   -Stut
  
   On Oct 22, 2008, at 5:12 PM, Stut wrote:
  
   On 23 Oct 2008, at 00:59, Jason Todd Slack-Moehrle wrote:
  
   After I right out the column headers do I have to put a '/n' to 
   have it start a new line in the CSV file? I think I do.
  
   A new line is \n not /n, and it must be in double quotes () not 
   single (').
  
  
   Oh, I am not putting quotes around each field that i get from MySQL. 
   There are no quotes in the data so that is good.
  
   Sorry I put /n and I meant to put chr(10).
  
   -Jason
  
 
  Jason, one of the points that Stut was trying to explain is that \n
  and chr(10) are the same thing. They are just two different ways to
  refer to a newline (line feed) character. Most of us probably use \n
  rather than chr(10) in PHP, though. So, the following two lines are
  equivalent:
 
  ?php
  echo Item1, Item2, Item3 . chr(10);
 
  // Note this uses double quotes.
  echo Item1, Item2, Item3\n;
 
  // It won't be the same at all if you use single quotes
  echo 'Item1, Item2, Item3\n';
 
  ?
 
  At any rate, you are correct that you need a line feed/newline
  character at the end of every row in CSV including the header row.
 
  Andrew
 
  A line feed and \n are not the same thing at all. Different operating
  systems implemented a different method of line endings depending on what
  they thought best, either a carriage return or line feed or both. a \n
  is meant to be an OS agnostic way of implementing this in the various
  programming languages, outputting something that any OS can understand
  in the intended way.
 
 
  Ash
  www.ashleysheridan.co.uk

 As I understood, \n was strictly a line feed (ASCII character 10), not
 an OS agnostic end-of-line terminator. It happens to be the line
 terminator for *nix. Windows uses the combined carriage return and
 line feed characters (ASCII characters 13 and 10) which are
 represented by \r\n in PHP, while Mac used only the the carriage
 return.  There is a PHP constant PHP_EOL that I'm pretty sure is
 supposed to represent the line terminator defined on the operating
 system of the computer executing the script, but I don't think it is
 truly agnostic either. At least, if you have a text file saved in
 Windows and split it on a Linux machine based on PHP_EOL, I believe
 all of your array values will have a carriage return character hanging
 on the end of them. Am I mistaken?

 Andrew
 I'm afraid I do disagree with your there:

 When writing a file in text mode, '\n' is transparently translated to
 the native newline sequence used by the system

 This is from the Wikipedia article I found:
 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Newline



 Ash
 www.ashleysheridan.co.uk



Interesting. I didn't know it behaved differently when writing files.
I just know that when using it as a search pattern or for splitting
text that it is only the newline character. I thought the behavior you
are describing was specifically why PHP added PHP_EOL. Further down
the same article it says:

Some languages have created special variables, constants and
subroutines to facilitate newlines during program execution. One
example is the PHP constant PHP_EOL, which will produce either '\r\n'
or '\n' appropriate to the operating system the program is executed
on.[3] Though special newline handling facilities can aid execution
during runtime, they do not ensure the validity of newlines for the
source code itself.

I guess since PHP is written in C it picks up the behavior you
describe from the underlying libraries. That's definitely interesting
to keep in mind.

Andrew

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[PHP] CSV Files

2008-10-22 Thread Jason Todd Slack-Moehrle

Hi All,

I need to take a record in MySQL and have my user get it as a CSV  
File. I am OK with most everything, except when I create the CSV file,  
I write out the column headers then I need to write out the data.


After I right out the column headers do I have to put a '/n' to have  
it start a new line in the CSV file? I think I do.


Here is what I have (a snippet):

header(Content-type: application/csv);
header($filenameString);
header(Pragma: no-cache);
header(Expires: 0);

echo $map_BORROWER_FIRST_NAME., ;
echo $map_BORROWER_LAST_NAME., ;
echo $map_BORROWER_SSN., ;
echo $map_BORROWER_HOME_PHONE., ;
echo $map_BORROWER_DOB;
echo /n;
echo $row[BORROWER_FIRST_NAME].,;
echo $row[BORROWER_LAST_NAME].,;
echo $row[BORROWER_SSN].,;
echo $row[BORROWER_HOME_PHONE_FIRST].$row[BORROWER_HOME_PHONE_MIDDLE]. 
$row[BORROWER_HOME_PHONE_LAST].,;
echo $row[BORROWER_DOB_MONTH].$row[BORROWER_DOB_DAY]. 
$row[BORROWER_DOB_YEAR];


When I run this, I see my column names, but not the data. The query  
seems to execute just fine


Any advice?

Thanks,

-Jason



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Re: [PHP] CSV Files

2008-10-22 Thread Eric Butera
On Wed, Oct 22, 2008 at 7:59 PM, Jason Todd Slack-Moehrle
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Hi All,

 I need to take a record in MySQL and have my user get it as a CSV File. I am
 OK with most everything, except when I create the CSV file, I write out the
 column headers then I need to write out the data.

 After I right out the column headers do I have to put a '/n' to have it
 start a new line in the CSV file? I think I do.

 Here is what I have (a snippet):

 header(Content-type: application/csv);
 header($filenameString);
 header(Pragma: no-cache);
 header(Expires: 0);

 echo $map_BORROWER_FIRST_NAME., ;
 echo $map_BORROWER_LAST_NAME., ;
 echo $map_BORROWER_SSN., ;
 echo $map_BORROWER_HOME_PHONE., ;
 echo $map_BORROWER_DOB;
 echo /n;
 echo $row[BORROWER_FIRST_NAME].,;
 echo $row[BORROWER_LAST_NAME].,;
 echo $row[BORROWER_SSN].,;
 echo
 $row[BORROWER_HOME_PHONE_FIRST].$row[BORROWER_HOME_PHONE_MIDDLE].$row[BORROWER_HOME_PHONE_LAST].,;
 echo
 $row[BORROWER_DOB_MONTH].$row[BORROWER_DOB_DAY].$row[BORROWER_DOB_YEAR];

 When I run this, I see my column names, but not the data. The query seems to
 execute just fine

 Any advice?

 Thanks,

 -Jason



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When I work with things like this I always use fputcsv.  One neat
little trick is to use streams.

$o = fopen(php://output, w);

// select first row and use array keys for header row then rewind

// while results do this
fputcsv($o, $row)

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Re: [PHP] CSV Files

2008-10-22 Thread Stut

On 23 Oct 2008, at 00:59, Jason Todd Slack-Moehrle wrote:
After I right out the column headers do I have to put a '/n' to have  
it start a new line in the CSV file? I think I do.


A new line is \n not /n, and it must be in double quotes () not  
single (').


-Stut

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Re: [PHP] CSV Files

2008-10-22 Thread Jason Todd Slack-Moehrle

Hi Stut,

Actually i am ending the row headers with a chr(10); // LINE FEED

-Jason

On Oct 22, 2008, at 5:12 PM, Stut wrote:


On 23 Oct 2008, at 00:59, Jason Todd Slack-Moehrle wrote:
After I right out the column headers do I have to put a '/n' to  
have it start a new line in the CSV file? I think I do.


A new line is \n not /n, and it must be in double quotes () not  
single (').


-Stut

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Re: [PHP] CSV Files

2008-10-22 Thread Stut

On 23 Oct 2008, at 02:41, Jason Todd Slack-Moehrle wrote:

Actually i am ending the row headers with a chr(10); // LINE FEED


From the code you included in your original post...


echo /n;



There was no mention of chr(10).

Outputting data in CSV format is not hard. Simply echo the header row  
if necessary, followed by \n. Then output each line taking care to  
put string values in quotes which means you also need to escape quotes  
in the data. After each line echo \n. That's really all there is to  
it.


If you're still having problems I suggest you post the exact code  
you're using, anything else just makes it harder for us to provide  
effective help.


-Stut

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On Oct 22, 2008, at 5:12 PM, Stut wrote:


On 23 Oct 2008, at 00:59, Jason Todd Slack-Moehrle wrote:
After I right out the column headers do I have to put a '/n' to  
have it start a new line in the CSV file? I think I do.


A new line is \n not /n, and it must be in double quotes () not  
single (').


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Re: [PHP] CSV Files

2008-10-22 Thread Jason Todd Slack-Moehrle


Oh, I am not putting quotes around each field that i get from MySQL.  
There are no quotes in the data so that is good.


Sorry I put /n and I meant to put chr(10).

-Jason

On Oct 22, 2008, at 6:58 PM, Stut wrote:


On 23 Oct 2008, at 02:41, Jason Todd Slack-Moehrle wrote:

Actually i am ending the row headers with a chr(10); // LINE FEED


From the code you included in your original post...


echo /n;



There was no mention of chr(10).

Outputting data in CSV format is not hard. Simply echo the header  
row if necessary, followed by \n. Then output each line taking  
care to put string values in quotes which means you also need to  
escape quotes in the data. After each line echo \n. That's really  
all there is to it.


If you're still having problems I suggest you post the exact code  
you're using, anything else just makes it harder for us to provide  
effective help.


-Stut

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On Oct 22, 2008, at 5:12 PM, Stut wrote:


On 23 Oct 2008, at 00:59, Jason Todd Slack-Moehrle wrote:
After I right out the column headers do I have to put a '/n' to  
have it start a new line in the CSV file? I think I do.


A new line is \n not /n, and it must be in double quotes () not  
single (').


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Re: [PHP] CSV Files

2008-10-22 Thread Robert Cummings
On Thu, 2008-10-23 at 02:58 +0100, Stut wrote:
 On 23 Oct 2008, at 02:41, Jason Todd Slack-Moehrle wrote:
  Actually i am ending the row headers with a chr(10); // LINE FEED
 
  From the code you included in your original post...
 
  echo /n;
 
 
 There was no mention of chr(10).
 
 Outputting data in CSV format is not hard. Simply echo the header row  
 if necessary, followed by \n. Then output each line taking care to  
 put string values in quotes which means you also need to escape quotes  
 in the data. After each line echo \n. That's really all there is to  
 it.
 
 If you're still having problems I suggest you post the exact code  
 you're using, anything else just makes it harder for us to provide  
 effective help.

Almost... except as usual Microsoft made something extremely simply bite
you in the ass:

http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;323626Product=xlw

It actually bit me in the ass several years ago.

Cheers,
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Re: [PHP] CSV Files

2008-10-22 Thread Andrew Ballard
On Wed, Oct 22, 2008 at 10:15 PM, Jason Todd Slack-Moehrle
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On Oct 22, 2008, at 6:58 PM, Stut wrote:

 On 23 Oct 2008, at 02:41, Jason Todd Slack-Moehrle wrote:

 Actually i am ending the row headers with a chr(10); // LINE FEED

 From the code you included in your original post...

 echo /n;


 There was no mention of chr(10).

 Outputting data in CSV format is not hard. Simply echo the header row if 
 necessary, followed by \n. Then output each line taking care to put string 
 values in quotes which means you also need to escape quotes in the data. 
 After each line echo \n. That's really all there is to it.

 If you're still having problems I suggest you post the exact code you're 
 using, anything else just makes it harder for us to provide effective help.

 -Stut

 On Oct 22, 2008, at 5:12 PM, Stut wrote:

 On 23 Oct 2008, at 00:59, Jason Todd Slack-Moehrle wrote:

 After I right out the column headers do I have to put a '/n' to have it 
 start a new line in the CSV file? I think I do.

 A new line is \n not /n, and it must be in double quotes () not single 
 (').


 Oh, I am not putting quotes around each field that i get from MySQL. There 
 are no quotes in the data so that is good.

 Sorry I put /n and I meant to put chr(10).

 -Jason


Jason, one of the points that Stut was trying to explain is that \n
and chr(10) are the same thing. They are just two different ways to
refer to a newline (line feed) character. Most of us probably use \n
rather than chr(10) in PHP, though. So, the following two lines are
equivalent:

?php
echo Item1, Item2, Item3 . chr(10);

// Note this uses double quotes.
echo Item1, Item2, Item3\n;

// It won't be the same at all if you use single quotes
echo 'Item1, Item2, Item3\n';

?

At any rate, you are correct that you need a line feed/newline
character at the end of every row in CSV including the header row.

Andrew

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