[PHP] Comment management

2006-10-23 Thread tedd

Hi:

I posted this on the web-design list, but didn't receive any leads.

I want to continue what I've been doing, which is to offer various 
code solutions for people via my web site, but I would like to add a 
feature where people can comment on the code. Such as if they found 
it useful, or found an error, or general comment -- you know, you've 
seen this before. Also, I want the code to be secure and allow me to 
edit users comments.


Does anyone have any recommendations or can point me to a simple 
content manager for such a purpose?


I know I could write it myself, but I would rather not reinvent the 
wheel, if possible.


Thanks.

tedd

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Re: [PHP] Comment management

2006-10-23 Thread Thomas Munz
Maybe you mean a bug tracker?

checkout

http://flyspray.rocks.cc/


on Monday 23 October 2006 17:12, tedd wrote:
 Hi:

 I posted this on the web-design list, but didn't receive any leads.

 I want to continue what I've been doing, which is to offer various
 code solutions for people via my web site, but I would like to add a
 feature where people can comment on the code. Such as if they found
 it useful, or found an error, or general comment -- you know, you've
 seen this before. Also, I want the code to be secure and allow me to
 edit users comments.

 Does anyone have any recommendations or can point me to a simple
 content manager for such a purpose?

 I know I could write it myself, but I would rather not reinvent the
 wheel, if possible.

 Thanks.

 tedd

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Re: [PHP] Comment management

2006-10-23 Thread tg-php
Think he's looking for something that'll manage comments.. not bugs.  As he 
says, so people can post comments (like in the online PHP docs where there are 
user comments for differnent entries with their own code samples and notes).

-TG

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Maybe you mean a bug tracker?

checkout

http://flyspray.rocks.cc/


on Monday 23 October 2006 17:12, tedd wrote:
 Hi:

 I posted this on the web-design list, but didn't receive any leads.

 I want to continue what I've been doing, which is to offer various
 code solutions for people via my web site, but I would like to add a
 feature where people can comment on the code. Such as if they found
 it useful, or found an error, or general comment -- you know, you've
 seen this before. Also, I want the code to be secure and allow me to
 edit users comments.

 Does anyone have any recommendations or can point me to a simple
 content manager for such a purpose?

 I know I could write it myself, but I would rather not reinvent the
 wheel, if possible.

 Thanks.

 tedd



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Re: [PHP] Comment management

2006-10-23 Thread Rocco Di Leo

Hi Tedd,

you may want to check out a Blog-Software like Wordpress if it fulfills your
requirements and relaunch your website using it. From what i see on your
page, it could pretty much replace the functionality and add the benefits of
comments, nice urls, etc

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On 10/23/06, tedd [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


Hi:

I posted this on the web-design list, but didn't receive any leads.

I want to continue what I've been doing, which is to offer various
code solutions for people via my web site, but I would like to add a
feature where people can comment on the code. Such as if they found
it useful, or found an error, or general comment -- you know, you've
seen this before. Also, I want the code to be secure and allow me to
edit users comments.

Does anyone have any recommendations or can point me to a simple
content manager for such a purpose?

I know I could write it myself, but I would rather not reinvent the
wheel, if possible.

Thanks.

tedd

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Re: [PHP] Comment management

2006-10-23 Thread Robert Cummings
On Mon, 2006-10-23 at 11:12 -0400, tedd wrote:
 Hi:
 
 I posted this on the web-design list, but didn't receive any leads.
 
 I want to continue what I've been doing, which is to offer various 
 code solutions for people via my web site, but I would like to add a 
 feature where people can comment on the code. Such as if they found 
 it useful, or found an error, or general comment -- you know, you've 
 seen this before. Also, I want the code to be secure and allow me to 
 edit users comments.
 
 Does anyone have any recommendations or can point me to a simple 
 content manager for such a purpose?
 
 I know I could write it myself, but I would rather not reinvent the 
 wheel, if possible.

If you just want something simple like what PHP uses, you're probably
going to spend more time looking for someone else's solution than it
would take to write it yourself :p It's quite trivial for any
half-seasoned coder.

Cheers,
Rob.
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Re: [PHP] Comment management

2006-10-23 Thread Robert Cummings
On Mon, 2006-10-23 at 18:16 +0200, Rocco Di Leo wrote:
 Hi Tedd,
 
 you may want to check out a Blog-Software like Wordpress if it fulfills your
 requirements and relaunch your website using it. From what i see on your
 page, it could pretty much replace the functionality and add the benefits of
 comments, nice urls, etc

If he goes that far, he could just use Drupal and get all the other
content management features and of course headaches *hehe*.

Cheers,
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Re: [PHP] Comment management

2006-10-23 Thread Google Kreme

On 23 Oct 2006, at 09:12 , tedd wrote:
Does anyone have any recommendations or can point me to a simple  
content manager for such a purpose?


Do you need a content manager?  Sounds like you want a blog like  
setup where you post a entry (code) and people can comment.   
Wordpress is nice.


Or am I missing something?


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Re: [PHP] Comment management

2006-10-23 Thread tedd

At 12:17 PM -0400 10/23/06, Robert Cummings wrote:

On Mon, 2006-10-23 at 11:12 -0400, tedd wrote:
  Does anyone have any recommendations or can point me to a simple
  content manager for such a purpose?

If you just want something simple like what PHP uses, you're probably
going to spend more time looking for someone else's solution than it
would take to write it yourself :p It's quite trivial for any
half-seasoned coder.

Cheers,
Rob.


Rob:

Well... I was afraid that someone would say that (paint me into a 
corner). I just wanted to check before launching my own home-grown 
solution and then having everyone say Why didn't you use so-and-so's 
'comment manager' ?


I'm sure word-press would do, but it's probably an overkill for my needs.

Thanks guys.

tedd

PS: I've been called a half-??? coder before, but the word usually 
isn't seasoned.  :-)

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Re: [PHP] Comment management

2006-10-23 Thread Robert Cummings
On Mon, 2006-10-23 at 15:53 -0400, tedd wrote:
 At 12:17 PM -0400 10/23/06, Robert Cummings wrote:
 On Mon, 2006-10-23 at 11:12 -0400, tedd wrote:
Does anyone have any recommendations or can point me to a simple
content manager for such a purpose?
 
 If you just want something simple like what PHP uses, you're probably
 going to spend more time looking for someone else's solution than it
 would take to write it yourself :p It's quite trivial for any
 half-seasoned coder.
 
 Cheers,
 Rob.
 
 Rob:
 
 Well... I was afraid that someone would say that (paint me into a 
 corner). I just wanted to check before launching my own home-grown 
 solution and then having everyone say Why didn't you use so-and-so's 
 'comment manager' ?
 
 I'm sure word-press would do, but it's probably an overkill for my needs.
 
 Thanks guys.
 
 tedd
 
 PS: I've been called a half-??? coder before, but the word usually 
 isn't seasoned.  :-)

I was speaking general, so you can retain your claim to the other
word :B ;) :D

Cheers,
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Re: [PHP] Comment management

2006-10-23 Thread Chris Shiflett
Tedd wrote:
 I just wanted to check before launching my own home-grown
 solution and then having everyone say Why didn't you use
 so-and-so's 'comment manager'?

For what it's worth, I'm interested in a good solution to this problem
as well, and I don't think it's nearly as trivial as others seem to think.

Most existing solutions have one or more undesirable characteristics:

1. Too many external dependencies
2. Some content is removed
3. Blacklist approaches to filtering
4. Yet another markup language
5. XHTML is required (or invalid XHTML is produced)

I'm sure I could come up with several more with a bit of thought. Of
course, I'd love to be proven wrong and shown a really great solution.

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Re: [PHP] Comment management

2006-10-23 Thread Leif Gregory
Hello tedd,

Monday, October 23, 2006, 1:53:41 PM, you wrote:
 Well... I was afraid that someone would say that (paint me into a
 corner). I just wanted to check before launching my own home-grown
 solution and then having everyone say Why didn't you use
 so-and-so's 'comment manager' ?

Sorry, wasn't paying attention earlier. I recently wrote a comment
manager that you include on the page you want to do comments. It uses
one MySQL table with an id that relates to the page the comments
pertain to. i.e. it uses the same code and DB table for multiple pages
where the comments may all be different.

It's cake easy to implement (one php file to display and save new
comments) and I'd be interested in any comments you might have about
it. PM me and I'll send it to you. 

If you want to see it in action, take a look at
http://trucks.pcwize.com/ubiquirack.php (at the bottom). I need to
setup a test page for this somewhere on my devtek.org site.


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Re: [PHP] Comment management

2006-10-23 Thread Robert Cummings
On Mon, 2006-10-23 at 16:54 -0400, Chris Shiflett wrote:
 Tedd wrote:
  I just wanted to check before launching my own home-grown
  solution and then having everyone say Why didn't you use
  so-and-so's 'comment manager'?
 
 For what it's worth, I'm interested in a good solution to this problem
 as well, and I don't think it's nearly as trivial as others seem to think.
 
 Most existing solutions have one or more undesirable characteristics:
 
 1. Too many external dependencies
 2. Some content is removed
 3. Blacklist approaches to filtering
 4. Yet another markup language
 5. XHTML is required (or invalid XHTML is produced)
 
 I'm sure I could come up with several more with a bit of thought. Of
 course, I'd love to be proven wrong and shown a really great solution.

Well it's still trivial, just most of us who have frameworks wouldn't be
so wasteful of our time to remove the dependency of our framework and
code it from first principles. We created frameworks for a reason. Also,
you've added a feature list not present in the OP, and while I still say
trivial that may depend on what you expect of #2 and #3 which you've
obviously left blank which means we don't even have your list of
desirable characteristics... so actually, your request is sort of
impossible since I'm not about to guess... and I'll sleep well tonight
whether I prove you wrong or not :)

Cheers,
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Re: [PHP] Comment management

2006-10-23 Thread Chris Shiflett
Robert Cummings wrote:
 Well it's still trivial, just most of us who have frameworks
 wouldn't be so wasteful of our time to remove the dependency
 of our framework and code it from first principles.

If your framework is written in PHP and doesn't have any external
dependencies, why are you bothering to make this point? You seem to be
trying to debate something that's completely irrelevant.

 I still say trivial that may depend on what you expect of #2
 and #3 which you've obviously left blank

They weren't obviously blank:

2. Some content is removed
3. Blacklist approaches to filtering

 your request is sort of impossible since I'm not about to guess.

I'm currently writing a test suite for this, and I'd be happy to test
any solution you've written.

But, to be quite honest, if you think the problem is trivial, your
solution isn't likely to be very useful to me.

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Re: [PHP] Comment management

2006-10-23 Thread Robert Cummings
On Mon, 2006-10-23 at 17:27 -0400, Chris Shiflett wrote:
 Robert Cummings wrote:
  Well it's still trivial, just most of us who have frameworks
  wouldn't be so wasteful of our time to remove the dependency
  of our framework and code it from first principles.
 
 If your framework is written in PHP and doesn't have any external
 dependencies, why are you bothering to make this point? You seem to be
 trying to debate something that's completely irrelevant.

Ah, I thought by external dependencies you meant other PHP libs (as in
not a standalone comment manager).

  I still say trivial that may depend on what you expect of #2
  and #3 which you've obviously left blank
 
 They weren't obviously blank:

I didn't say they were blank, you've mentioned what you don't want, not
what you DO want.

 2. Some content is removed

What kind of content removal bothers you? There are security
implications with leaving submitted data intact (you're well aware of
that I'm sure :)

 3. Blacklist approaches to filtering

What would you prefer over blacklist approaches?

 I'm currently writing a test suite for this, and I'd be happy to test
 any solution you've written.
 
 But, to be quite honest, if you think the problem is trivial, your
 solution isn't likely to be very useful to me.

It depends on the problem. Your criteria don't define it well yet. The
OP's criteria did define it as trivial.

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Re: [PHP] Comment management

2006-10-23 Thread Paul Scott

On Mon, 2006-10-23 at 15:53 -0400, tedd wrote:
 Well... I was afraid that someone would say that (paint me into a 
 corner). I just wanted to check before launching my own home-grown 
 solution and then having everyone say Why didn't you use so-and-so's 
 'comment manager' ?
 
 I'm sure word-press would do, but it's probably an overkill for my needs.

Well, within our framework(s) we have a comment module that can be
attached onto any other module (like a blog, a content area, a
workgroup, a document repository etc), but I didn't mention it because
its in our framework. The module code is really quite simple (written in
a day) so you may find it useful for looking at, if you are not using
our system...

http://avoir.uwc.ac.za for downloads or http://fsiu.uwc.ac.za/ and check
out the wiki, where we use the comments module for wiki comments.

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