[PHP] Edinburgh, Scotland: PHP Developer Position
Hi, Don't want to spam the list, but figured after the London Salaries topic recently, that I'd post this! We're needing a PHP/MySQL developer, preferably with experience of general server admin too. The details can be found here if anyone is interested: http://www.tribalogic.net/tribalogic/jobs/graduate-php-developer-needed.html Col -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] Edinburgh, Scotland: PHP Developer Position
On 6/18/07, Colin Guthrie [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, Don't want to spam the list, but figured after the London Salaries topic recently, that I'd post this! We're needing a PHP/MySQL developer, preferably with experience of general server admin too. The details can be found here if anyone is interested: http://www.tribalogic.net/tribalogic/jobs/graduate-php-developer-needed.html Col Well, I have a lot experience with PHP, HTML and MySQL. Also some experience with Unix system administration. I'm 15 years old, so could I apply for the job? :) Tijnema -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
RE: [PHP] Edinburgh, Scotland: PHP Developer Position
-Original Message- From: Tijnema [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 18 June 2007 14:25 To: Colin Guthrie Cc: php-general@lists.php.net Subject: Re: [PHP] Edinburgh, Scotland: PHP Developer Position On 6/18/07, Colin Guthrie [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, Don't want to spam the list, but figured after the London Salaries topic recently, that I'd post this! We're needing a PHP/MySQL developer, preferably with experience of general server admin too. The details can be found here if anyone is interested: http://www.tribalogic.net/tribalogic/jobs/graduate-php-developer-n eeded.html Col Well, I have a lot experience with PHP, HTML and MySQL. Also some experience with Unix system administration. I'm 15 years old, so could I apply for the job? :) Tijnema But the advert is for a GRADUATE developer ;) Whilst your messages to this list show you know a lot about PHP, I doubt you've managed to fit a degree in yet :) Edward -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] Edinburgh, Scotland: PHP Developer Position
Edward Kay wrote: ... But the advert is for a GRADUATE developer ;) Whilst your messages to this list show you know a lot about PHP, I doubt you've managed to fit a degree in yet :) What does a graduate php developer earn in Scotland? and is it the the piece of paper that's important or is it a reference to the general skill level (personally I don't see much direct corellation between academic capabilities and practical coding/sysadmin skill). just thinking out loud guys :-) Edward -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] Edinburgh, Scotland: PHP Developer Position
Jochem Maas wrote: Edward Kay wrote: ... But the advert is for a GRADUATE developer ;) Whilst your messages to this list show you know a lot about PHP, I doubt you've managed to fit a degree in yet :) What does a graduate php developer earn in Scotland? and is it the the piece of paper that's important or is it a reference to the general skill level (personally I don't see much direct corellation between academic capabilities and practical coding/sysadmin skill). just thinking out loud guys :-) This is always beat around...and my 2 cents are that all the piece of paper is worth is showing you have a certain level of commitment needed to complete the degree program (important for any job), and that you have the ability to learn. Granted...there are always exceptions to the rule... Plus, at least in the US, it [a degree] always opens the door for more money! ;-) Edward -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] Edinburgh, Scotland: PHP Developer Position
On 6/18/07, Brad Bonkoski [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Jochem Maas wrote: Edward Kay wrote: ... But the advert is for a GRADUATE developer ;) Whilst your messages to this list show you know a lot about PHP, I doubt you've managed to fit a degree in yet :) What does a graduate php developer earn in Scotland? and is it the the piece of paper that's important or is it a reference to the general skill level (personally I don't see much direct corellation between academic capabilities and practical coding/sysadmin skill). just thinking out loud guys :-) This is always beat around...and my 2 cents are that all the piece of paper is worth is showing you have a certain level of commitment needed to complete the degree program (important for any job), and that you have the ability to learn. Granted...there are always exceptions to the rule... I think that these programs are too overall based, and jobs are mostly quite focused on a single point. Very simple example, you're working on a text based site, why do you need to know how to use the GD functions? If each company would create its own very simple test, that only focuses on the actual point, than that would see who is appropriate for the job, and who isn't Plus, at least in the US, it [a degree] always opens the door for more money! ;-) Edward Yes, but if you pay $10K for you study, and you get $1K extra each year, you need to work 10 years to get your money back, and I didn't even count the costs of your valuable time... Tijnema -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] Edinburgh, Scotland: PHP Developer Position
On Mon, 2007-06-18 at 10:08 -0400, Brad Bonkoski wrote: Jochem Maas wrote: Edward Kay wrote: ... But the advert is for a GRADUATE developer ;) Whilst your messages to this list show you know a lot about PHP, I doubt you've managed to fit a degree in yet :) What does a graduate php developer earn in Scotland? and is it the the piece of paper that's important or is it a reference to the general skill level (personally I don't see much direct corellation between academic capabilities and practical coding/sysadmin skill). just thinking out loud guys :-) This is always beat around...and my 2 cents are that all the piece of paper is worth is showing you have a certain level of commitment needed to complete the degree program (important for any job), and that you have the ability to learn. Granted...there are always exceptions to the rule... Plus, at least in the US, it [a degree] always opens the door for more money! ;-) Things I learned to do while obtaining my B.C.S. degree: 1. Time management - how to maximize partying time while still getting projects done on time. I used a night before philosophy that incorporated the all-nighter strategy. This particular approach isn't for everyone. I found 2 litres of cola and a bag of Viva Puffs were helpful at alleviating night-time drowsiness. This strategy can also work for studying for exams. 2. Efficiency - due to many hangovers there was a great need for better efficiency in the learning process. To decrease the requisite time needed to absorb information it was necessary to not bother showing up to class since reading the textbooks was much quicker than listening to the sleep inducing drone of the professor (who in many cases was practically reading from the textbook). An added bonus is you don't need to weep through the ignorant questions that are almost guaranteed to be raised throughout the class by students who didn't do any reading at all. Textbooks also often had nice little chunks of source code and margin tidbits that the professor expected you to read anyways). I must add though, there were some exceptionally interesting professors that made the showing up worthwhile, my favourites were the distributed and parallel programming courses. 3. Networking - I found branching out to the artsy disciplines to be quite invigorating. For some reason the distribution of women to men in these areas are much more condusive to relationships. I also learned some other networking stuff but that was course work. Another good area for networking was the campus pub... I had an especially delightful time one night when all the tutors for my 4th year algorithms course were present and I whupped their butts at pool :) 4. Independence - all the drooling keeners never wanted the partying type in their group when group projects were mandated. As a result you often learned how to do everything yourself -- the night before of course :) 5. Budgeting - how to pay off a student debt during the dot com bust days. This mostly involved not doing what was done during the years of studying... aka partying :/ It took me 6 years to pay off 70k in student debt *lol*. For me going to university was a little bit about getting a piece of paper and a lot about having fun and meeting people (I met my wife there). One thing that I think is helpful about university is that it brings a lot of smaller pieces of the greater picture together in a useful and cohesive manner. Cheers, Rob. -- .. | InterJinn Application Framework - http://www.interjinn.com | :: | An application and templating framework for PHP. Boasting | | a powerful, scalable system for accessing system services | | such as forms, properties, sessions, and caches. InterJinn | | also provides an extremely flexible architecture for | | creating re-usable components quickly and easily. | `' -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] Edinburgh, Scotland: PHP Developer Position
On Mon, 2007-06-18 at 16:22 +0200, Tijnema wrote: On 6/18/07, Brad Bonkoski [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Jochem Maas wrote: Edward Kay wrote: ... But the advert is for a GRADUATE developer ;) Whilst your messages to this list show you know a lot about PHP, I doubt you've managed to fit a degree in yet :) What does a graduate php developer earn in Scotland? and is it the the piece of paper that's important or is it a reference to the general skill level (personally I don't see much direct corellation between academic capabilities and practical coding/sysadmin skill). just thinking out loud guys :-) This is always beat around...and my 2 cents are that all the piece of paper is worth is showing you have a certain level of commitment needed to complete the degree program (important for any job), and that you have the ability to learn. Granted...there are always exceptions to the rule... I think that these programs are too overall based, and jobs are mostly quite focused on a single point. Very simple example, you're working on a text based site, why do you need to know how to use the GD functions? If each company would create its own very simple test, that only focuses on the actual point, than that would see who is appropriate for the job, and who isn't Maybe so, but it would tell you who can adapt to change ;) Not that a university degree will tell you that either. Cheers, Rob. -- .. | InterJinn Application Framework - http://www.interjinn.com | :: | An application and templating framework for PHP. Boasting | | a powerful, scalable system for accessing system services | | such as forms, properties, sessions, and caches. InterJinn | | also provides an extremely flexible architecture for | | creating re-usable components quickly and easily. | `' -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] Edinburgh, Scotland: PHP Developer Position
On Mon, 2007-06-18 at 10:40 -0400, Robert Cummings wrote: On Mon, 2007-06-18 at 16:22 +0200, Tijnema wrote: On 6/18/07, Brad Bonkoski [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Jochem Maas wrote: Edward Kay wrote: ... But the advert is for a GRADUATE developer ;) Whilst your messages to this list show you know a lot about PHP, I doubt you've managed to fit a degree in yet :) What does a graduate php developer earn in Scotland? and is it the the piece of paper that's important or is it a reference to the general skill level (personally I don't see much direct corellation between academic capabilities and practical coding/sysadmin skill). just thinking out loud guys :-) This is always beat around...and my 2 cents are that all the piece of paper is worth is showing you have a certain level of commitment needed to complete the degree program (important for any job), and that you have the ability to learn. Granted...there are always exceptions to the rule... I think that these programs are too overall based, and jobs are mostly quite focused on a single point. Very simple example, you're working on a text based site, why do you need to know how to use the GD functions? If each company would create its own very simple test, that only focuses on the actual point, than that would see who is appropriate for the job, and who isn't Maybe so, but it would tell you who can adapt to change ;) Not that a Should have read but it won't tell you... Cheers, Rob. -- .. | InterJinn Application Framework - http://www.interjinn.com | :: | An application and templating framework for PHP. Boasting | | a powerful, scalable system for accessing system services | | such as forms, properties, sessions, and caches. InterJinn | | also provides an extremely flexible architecture for | | creating re-usable components quickly and easily. | `' -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] Edinburgh, Scotland: PHP Developer Position
On 6/18/07, Robert Cummings [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Mon, 2007-06-18 at 10:40 -0400, Robert Cummings wrote: On Mon, 2007-06-18 at 16:22 +0200, Tijnema wrote: On 6/18/07, Brad Bonkoski [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Jochem Maas wrote: Edward Kay wrote: ... But the advert is for a GRADUATE developer ;) Whilst your messages to this list show you know a lot about PHP, I doubt you've managed to fit a degree in yet :) What does a graduate php developer earn in Scotland? and is it the the piece of paper that's important or is it a reference to the general skill level (personally I don't see much direct corellation between academic capabilities and practical coding/sysadmin skill). just thinking out loud guys :-) This is always beat around...and my 2 cents are that all the piece of paper is worth is showing you have a certain level of commitment needed to complete the degree program (important for any job), and that you have the ability to learn. Granted...there are always exceptions to the rule... I think that these programs are too overall based, and jobs are mostly quite focused on a single point. Very simple example, you're working on a text based site, why do you need to know how to use the GD functions? If each company would create its own very simple test, that only focuses on the actual point, than that would see who is appropriate for the job, and who isn't Maybe so, but it would tell you who can adapt to change ;) Not that a Should have read but it won't tell you... Cheers, Rob. I guessed that rob ;) Tijnema -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] Edinburgh, Scotland: PHP Developer Position
On 6/18/07, Robert Cummings [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Mon, 2007-06-18 at 10:40 -0400, Robert Cummings wrote: On Mon, 2007-06-18 at 16:22 +0200, Tijnema wrote: On 6/18/07, Brad Bonkoski [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Jochem Maas wrote: Edward Kay wrote: ... But the advert is for a GRADUATE developer ;) Whilst your messages to this list show you know a lot about PHP, I doubt you've managed to fit a degree in yet :) What does a graduate php developer earn in Scotland? and is it the the piece of paper that's important or is it a reference to the general skill level (personally I don't see much direct corellation between academic capabilities and practical coding/sysadmin skill). just thinking out loud guys :-) This is always beat around...and my 2 cents are that all the piece of paper is worth is showing you have a certain level of commitment needed to complete the degree program (important for any job), and that you have the ability to learn. Granted...there are always exceptions to the rule... I think that these programs are too overall based, and jobs are mostly quite focused on a single point. Very simple example, you're working on a text based site, why do you need to know how to use the GD functions? If each company would create its own very simple test, that only focuses on the actual point, than that would see who is appropriate for the job, and who isn't Maybe so, but it would tell you who can adapt to change ;) Not that a Should have read but it won't tell you... Cheers, Rob. -- .. | InterJinn Application Framework - http://www.interjinn.com | :: | An application and templating framework for PHP. Boasting | | a powerful, scalable system for accessing system services | | such as forms, properties, sessions, and caches. InterJinn | | also provides an extremely flexible architecture for | | creating re-usable components quickly and easily. | `' -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php Keep in mind, though, that a good part of the time here in the United States, employment is gained by knowing someone (not necessarily political, but someone may ask, hey, do you know anyone who knows how to ). That's actually how I got the job that I'm in, and my degree was in Criminal Justice back in the nineties. I never got a computer science degree, nor do I think I ever plan on getting one. -- Daniel P. Brown [office] (570-) 587-7080 Ext. 272 [mobile] (570-) 766-8107 -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] Edinburgh, Scotland: PHP Developer Position
On 6/18/07, Tijnema [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yes, but if you pay $10K for you study, and you get $1K extra each year, you need to work 10 years to get your money back, and I didn't even count the costs of your valuable time... Ten thousand dollars for a college degree? Where the hell is that school?!? When I was in college, I paid more than that per year, and it wasn't even /that/ good of a school! -- Daniel P. Brown [office] (570-) 587-7080 Ext. 272 [mobile] (570-) 766-8107 -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] Edinburgh, Scotland: PHP Developer Position
On 6/18/07, Daniel Brown [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 6/18/07, Tijnema [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yes, but if you pay $10K for you study, and you get $1K extra each year, you need to work 10 years to get your money back, and I didn't even count the costs of your valuable time... Ten thousand dollars for a college degree? Where the hell is that school?!? When I was in college, I paid more than that per year, and it wasn't even /that/ good of a school! -- Daniel P. Brown Well, here in the Netherlands, I'm not totally sure about the prices but in € it's about the price we pay... Government pays the rest.. :) IIRC, it was €2.5K for the college itself, and €1K for studying books each year, well, nearly all studies are four year here, so that means about €14K total. Close to €10k ;), but let me correct it, it's nearly $19K. So that means working 19 years :P, or get $2K extra each year :) Tijnema -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] Edinburgh, Scotland: PHP Developer Position
On 6/18/07, Tijnema [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 6/18/07, Daniel Brown [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 6/18/07, Tijnema [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yes, but if you pay $10K for you study, and you get $1K extra each year, you need to work 10 years to get your money back, and I didn't even count the costs of your valuable time... Ten thousand dollars for a college degree? Where the hell is that school?!? When I was in college, I paid more than that per year, and it wasn't even /that/ good of a school! -- Daniel P. Brown Well, here in the Netherlands, I'm not totally sure about the prices but in € it's about the price we pay... Government pays the rest.. :) IIRC, it was €2.5K for the college itself, and €1K for studying books each year, well, nearly all studies are four year here, so that means about €14K total. Close to €10k ;), but let me correct it, it's nearly $19K. So that means working 19 years :P, or get $2K extra each year :) Tijnema Here, you either have to be destitute, a minority, have done something extremely beneficial to humanity, know someone in political power, win a lottery, or serve at least one full tour in the armed services to get free money from the government for school. They'll gladly give you loans, though at 14-19% APR or higher. -- Daniel P. Brown [office] (570-) 587-7080 Ext. 272 [mobile] (570-) 766-8107 -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] Edinburgh, Scotland: PHP Developer Position
Tijnema wrote: On 6/18/07, Brad Bonkoski [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ... Edward Yes, but if you pay $10K for you study, and you get $1K extra each year, you need to work 10 years to get your money back, and I didn't even count the costs of your valuable time... Tijnema your showing your age - the calculation you give is, to put it politely, naive. stick to what you know until such time as you've paid for and dealt with one or more of the following out of your pocket: huur/hypotheek ziektenkostenverzekering inkostenbelasting alimentatie een tas vol boodschapen een brommer jou eigen schoenen sorry kid, I couldn't resist. ;-) Tijnema -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] Edinburgh, Scotland: PHP Developer Position
Daniel Brown wrote: On 6/18/07, Robert Cummings [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Keep in mind, though, that a good part of the time here in the United States, employment is gained by knowing someone (not necessarily political, but someone may ask, hey, do you know anyone who knows how to ). That's actually how I got the job that I'm in, and my degree was in Criminal Justice back in the nineties. I never got a computer science degree, nor do I think I ever plan on getting one. Dan Hits Nail On Head which explains why 90% of wallstreet-broker/CEO types that I've met (you know six figure salaries and 7 figure bonuses) are thick as pigshit. -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] Edinburgh, Scotland: PHP Developer Position
Daniel Brown wrote: On 6/18/07, Tijnema [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 6/18/07, Daniel Brown [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 6/18/07, Tijnema [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yes, but if you pay $10K for you study, and you get $1K extra each year, you need to work 10 years to get your money back, and I didn't even count the costs of your valuable time... Ten thousand dollars for a college degree? Where the hell is that school?!? When I was in college, I paid more than that per year, and it wasn't even /that/ good of a school! -- Daniel P. Brown Well, here in the Netherlands, I'm not totally sure about the prices but in € it's about the price we pay... Government pays the rest.. :) IIRC, it was €2.5K for the college itself, and €1K for studying books each year, well, nearly all studies are four year here, so that means about €14K total. Close to €10k ;), but let me correct it, it's nearly $19K. So that means working 19 years :P, or get $2K extra each year :) Tijnema Here, you either have to be destitute, a minority, have done something extremely beneficial to humanity, know someone in political power, win a lottery, or serve at least one full tour in the armed services to get free money from the government for school. They'll gladly give you loans, though at 14-19% APR or higher. we have a more social system in holland - although the figures Tijnema is quoting are crap unless you assume that mummy and daddy pay for just about everything but the actual book and study fees. I know one guy that has 90,000 euro debt from medical school - admittedly he's taken 7-9 years (he had a stopyear I believe) but nonetheless you get the point (especially if you know that the guy also had various parttime jobs during that time) -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] Edinburgh, Scotland: PHP Developer Position
Robert Cummings wrote: ... Cheers, Rob. great story Robert (look spelt it correctly that time ;-)) - made my day! -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] Edinburgh, Scotland: PHP Developer Position
On Mon, 2007-06-18 at 17:24 +0200, Jochem Maas wrote: Daniel Brown wrote: On 6/18/07, Robert Cummings [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Keep in mind, though, that a good part of the time here in the United States, employment is gained by knowing someone (not necessarily political, but someone may ask, hey, do you know anyone who knows how to ). That's actually how I got the job that I'm in, and my degree was in Criminal Justice back in the nineties. I never got a computer science degree, nor do I think I ever plan on getting one. Dan Hits Nail On Head which explains why 90% of wallstreet-broker/CEO types that I've met (you know six figure salaries and 7 figure bonuses) are thick as pigshit. And why exactly were you hanging around the pig sty? (perchance you were looking for the sheep pen and lost your way? ;) ;) Ba d Jochem! Cheers, Rob. -- .. | InterJinn Application Framework - http://www.interjinn.com | :: | An application and templating framework for PHP. Boasting | | a powerful, scalable system for accessing system services | | such as forms, properties, sessions, and caches. InterJinn | | also provides an extremely flexible architecture for | | creating re-usable components quickly and easily. | `' -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] Edinburgh, Scotland: PHP Developer Position
On 6/18/07, Jochem Maas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Tijnema wrote: On 6/18/07, Brad Bonkoski [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ... Edward Yes, but if you pay $10K for you study, and you get $1K extra each year, you need to work 10 years to get your money back, and I didn't even count the costs of your valuable time... Tijnema your showing your age - the calculation you give is, to put it politely, naive. stick to what you know until such time as you've paid for and dealt with one or more of the following out of your pocket: huur/hypotheek ziektenkostenverzekering inkostenbelasting alimentatie een tas vol boodschapen een brommer jou eigen schoenen sorry kid, I couldn't resist. ;-) Tijnema -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php Een prostituee van wat u een ziekte zult krijgen die heeft geen naam. -- Daniel P. Brown [office] (570-) 587-7080 Ext. 272 [mobile] (570-) 766-8107 -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] Edinburgh, Scotland: PHP Developer Position
Robert Cummings wrote: On Mon, 2007-06-18 at 17:24 +0200, Jochem Maas wrote: Daniel Brown wrote: On 6/18/07, Robert Cummings [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Keep in mind, though, that a good part of the time here in the United States, employment is gained by knowing someone (not necessarily political, but someone may ask, hey, do you know anyone who knows how to ). That's actually how I got the job that I'm in, and my degree was in Criminal Justice back in the nineties. I never got a computer science degree, nor do I think I ever plan on getting one. Dan Hits Nail On Head which explains why 90% of wallstreet-broker/CEO types that I've met (you know six figure salaries and 7 figure bonuses) are thick as pigshit. And why exactly were you hanging around the pig sty? (perchance you were looking for the sheep pen and lost your way? ;) ;) Ba d Jochem! not sure what the reference to sheep is about, but lets just say I was born in the sty. Animal Farm anyone? Cheers, Rob. -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] Edinburgh, Scotland: PHP Developer Position
On Mon, 2007-06-18 at 17:52 +0200, Jochem Maas wrote: Robert Cummings wrote: On Mon, 2007-06-18 at 17:24 +0200, Jochem Maas wrote: Daniel Brown wrote: On 6/18/07, Robert Cummings [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Keep in mind, though, that a good part of the time here in the United States, employment is gained by knowing someone (not necessarily political, but someone may ask, hey, do you know anyone who knows how to ). That's actually how I got the job that I'm in, and my degree was in Criminal Justice back in the nineties. I never got a computer science degree, nor do I think I ever plan on getting one. Dan Hits Nail On Head which explains why 90% of wallstreet-broker/CEO types that I've met (you know six figure salaries and 7 figure bonuses) are thick as pigshit. And why exactly were you hanging around the pig sty? (perchance you were looking for the sheep pen and lost your way? ;) ;) Ba d Jochem! not sure what the reference to sheep is about, but lets just say I was born in the sty. Animal Farm anyone? Ooooh, just the usual sheep reference :) Cheers, Rob. -- .. | InterJinn Application Framework - http://www.interjinn.com | :: | An application and templating framework for PHP. Boasting | | a powerful, scalable system for accessing system services | | such as forms, properties, sessions, and caches. InterJinn | | also provides an extremely flexible architecture for | | creating re-usable components quickly and easily. | `' -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
