[PHP] Free penetration test: my 2¢

2005-05-29 Thread Andy Pieters
Hi all

I would like to thank everybody for helping me.

Quite honestly, I didn't even remark the referal id.  I guess that's because 
if your looking at links all day long, you kinda block certain things.  Like 
seeing only the hostname part of urls.

Secondly, as far as I am concerned, no harm's done since I specifically asked 
for free (as in price), I wasn't planning signing up for any paid service at 
all.  So like someone said 35% of nothing is still nothing right?  Except, 
some sites give a (small) buck on referals regardless of signing up.

Thirdly, despite what I said previously, which was said after a very long day, 
and where I was very tired and confusing heads for tails, I do find that 
anyone who gives a link, and adds a referal id to it, “should” add a 
disclaimer to the message stating their affiliation.  

Being shy for money myself, I can understand that someone will take any and 
all oportunity to make an extra buck, but doing it this way is not very 
honest.

Show your professionalism, add that disclaimer, people will respect you more 
for it.

Thank you all for your help and thank you PHP!


Keep up the good work


With kind regards



Andy Pieters
Straight-A-Software

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Re: [PHP] Free penetration test

2005-05-24 Thread Burhan Khalid

Chris Shiflett wrote:

Andy Pieters wrote:


I am looking at where I can get my system tested for penetration.




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You might want to check out the links Christophe mentioned, as these 
provide free advice, which seems to be more along the lines of what you 
want.


I recently stumbled onto Open Web Application Security Project [ 
www.owasp.org ].  Although not PHP-specific, they have some good stuff 
wrt securing web applications. They also have some php functions for 
sanitizing data, but the real good stuff is in their guides.


Might be worth a click.

Oh and Chris -- I loved your PHP Security writeup that you had posted on 
your website a while back.  Keep up the good work.


Regards,
Burhan

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Re: [PHP] Free penetration test

2005-05-23 Thread Chris Shiflett

Andy Pieters wrote:

I am looking at where I can get my system tested for penetration.


We offer penetration testing at Brain Bulb, but I always try to convince 
clients to let us perform a security audit instead. Auditing the code 
allows us to be much more productive and thorough, plus we can identify 
theoretical weaknesses in addition to the practical ones.


In addition to being less useful, penetration testing tends to be much 
more expensive, because it requires more time and effort. The only 
reason we offer the service is that some companies are uncomfortable 
sharing their code with anyone, regardless of NDAs and such.


You might want to check out the links Christophe mentioned, as these 
provide free advice, which seems to be more along the lines of what you 
want.


Chris

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Re: [PHP] Free penetration test

2005-05-23 Thread John Nichel



Gee, I wonder why this one ended up in my spam folder. ;)

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Re: [PHP] Free penetration test

2005-05-23 Thread Christophe Chisogne
Andy Pieters a écrit :
> I am looking at where I can get my system tested for penetration.

Probably on the world "wild" web :-)
More seriously, there are companies doing that, but it can be expensive.

> http://www.vlaamse-kern.com/yourstore-0.0.2-beta1/admin/
> 
> It is actually a kind of CMS system so if someone gets in, create a page with 
> the cms as proof.

You'll get only a few basic checks if you give only that URL.
Ex: check if special input dont lead to usefull display of errors,
or if .htaccess can't be simply retreived, etc

To get a better sense of security, it's best to show the code
(or at least the relevant parts) : Security through obscurity
isnt the best idea, as you probably know.

Of course, if you can't provide the code for various reasons,
you can audit the code yourself, after reading some documentation
about (PHP) security. Some links below can help you.

Christophe

PHP Manual -- IV. Security
http://www.php.net/manual/en/security.php

PHP Security Guide
http://phpsec.org/projects/guide/

PHPSec Library
http://phpsec.org/library/

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[PHP] Free penetration test

2005-05-23 Thread Andy Pieters
Hi all

I am looking at where I can get my system tested for penetration.

In case someone here would like to have a go

This is the url

http://www.vlaamse-kern.com/yourstore-0.0.2-beta1/admin/

It is actually a kind of CMS system so if someone gets in, create a page with 
the cms as proof.


Kind regards



Andy

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