Re: [PHP] PHP Boot Camp [Announcement]
Yes, I absolutely suck as a Graphic Designer. There will not be any pretty charts, graphics, or nifty layouts in the course. We're talking raw, bare-bones, text-edited HTML. No Dream-Weaver, no FrontPage, no Homesite, etc. Even the Flash and PDF stuff will be rude, crude, and very austere (at best). The point is to get something cool/dynamic so that a designer can do their magic to make it pretty. Or, rather, to teach Graphic Designers enough PHP to embody *both* sides of their brain and put all us geeks out of work :-) You are, however, correct, that I should have hired somebody to make the sites prettier. I wish I had the time/budget for that, but I don't at the moment. (I do kinda like the logo, which, of course, I out-sourced.) Oh, and the Universe of the l-i-e site changes each time you re-load :-) If you want to learn graphic design and layout, for sure, don't come. If you want to learn how to do PHP and you're in a hurry, it's probably worth your time/money. OTOH, if you have months to learn, start reading http://php.net, all the code archives, the 100+/day messages to this list like I have for the last 4 years, maybe a couple of the books I Tech-edited, pay a few thousand bucks to attend the various PHP Conferences I've been to, and you'll be set... I think it's worth $800 to have all that smushed into two days, but if I'm wrong, I reckon we'll see this endeavor fold. If I'm right, expect the low-budget site-design to improve rather quickly. :-) Perhaps a more representative sample of my sites with decent (albeit still *very* low-budget) design would be: http://uncommonground.com http://chatmusic.com http://nogenre.com (Technically, I did the design, but sometimes less is more...) http://voodookings.net http://snothead.com These also have rather extensive admin back-end sites since the cafe owner (first URL) and 200+ members (second URL) and the musicians (4th/5th) do all the data-entry and routine updates of content like menus and calendars for those sites. I'm a firm believer in self-serve dynamic web-sites for low-budget clients who can't afford a huge re-work every year or two like Corporate America. I mostly work for starving musicians who literally have to scrape for the $20/month hosting fees, and focus on content, not presentation. It's the music that matters to them. (I don't work with the Britney Spears' of the industry -- Not interested.) I'm actually targetting Graphic Designers who want to learn programming concepts and techniques, not the other way around. :-) Still, it seemed relevant to post here. Sorry I offended your sensibilities. PS Your blasphemy was only that I've been around for four or five years, and some people actually like me for some reason [shrug] :-) :-) :-) I'm certainly not offended. You have to work way harder than that to offend me. -- WARNING [EMAIL PROTECTED] address is an endangered species -- Use [EMAIL PROTECTED] Wanna help me out? Like Music? Buy a CD: http://l-i-e.com/artists.htm Volunteer a little time: http://chatmusic.com/volunteer.htm - Original Message - From: Nowayman [EMAIL PROTECTED] Newsgroups: php.general To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, September 20, 2001 5:45 PM Subject: Re: [PHP] PHP Boot Camp [Announcement] OOOH, touched a nerve... I'm sorry to have iblasphemed/i. I was just making an observation that the sites he produced were pretty lame. I was just suggesting that even if he was such a hot-shot PHP guru, he'd want to have some sort of niceness about the sites he produces. I am, honestly, just beginning with PHP but have rpogrammed in other languages for several years. But that doesn't make me a bad web site designer. I am helping to design an E-Commerce instruction class and intend on making PHP one of the main topics. IT will be similar to the BootCamp but over a number of weeks .vs 2-days. I guess I should have included a few hunderd :) so you folks wouldn't have taken it so seriously. Listen jackass, Richard is a PHP Programmer, not a Web Designer. Next time you feel like flaming back, do me a favor, shove both feet in your mouth first. -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To contact the list administrators, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[PHP] PHP Boot Camp [Announcement]
PHP Boot Camp is an intensive 2-day PHP programming hands-on seminars to teach you everything you need to know to build a dynamic web site using PHP. In this seminar, you will literally build a dynamic web-site from scratch which utilizes PHP, MySQL, SMTP, HTTP GET and POST, GD, Cookies, Sessions, HTTP Authentication, File Uploads, and Streaming Audio/Visual Media. Richard Lynch is highly regarded as the best PHP Instructor world-wide and has over 15 years of Computer Science and Teaching experience including: * Vice-President Customer Support Zend Technologies USA * PHP 4 Bible Technical Editor * MySQL/PHP Database Applications Technical Editor * State of Indiana Teacher's License 1985-1990 * Computer Science Department Chair, Holy Trinity High School 1985-1989 * Frequent contributor to PHP Mailing Lists and Code Archives * Institute for the Learning Sciences at Northwestern University PHP Boot Camp has been successfully field-tested and refined with over 100 attendees If you're looking for something a little more challenging... Try one of our forthcoming PHP for Programmer Boot Camps! For more information or to register: http://www.PHPBootCamp.com -- WARNING [EMAIL PROTECTED] email address is an endangered species Use [EMAIL PROTECTED] instead -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To contact the list administrators, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [PHP] PHP Boot Camp [Announcement]
Richard Lynch is highly regarded as the best PHP Instructor world-wide And this is measured how? :D -- Richard Heyes -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To contact the list administrators, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [PHP] PHP Boot Camp [Announcement]
If HE is the one who did these lame-ass sites: http://www.PHPBootCamp.com http://www.l-i-e.com I don't want to learn anything from him, that's for sure -- WARNING [EMAIL PROTECTED] email address is an endangered species Use [EMAIL PROTECTED] instead Richard Lynch is highly regarded as the best PHP Instructor world-wide And this is measured how? -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To contact the list administrators, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [PHP] PHP Boot Camp [Announcement]
If HE is the one who did these lame-ass sites: http://www.PHPBootCamp.com http://www.l-i-e.com I don't want to learn anything from him, that's for sure Ay yi yi! Listen here, Flame Boi, why don't you just keep your comments to yourself, h? Unless I'm mistaken, there aren't many people who post more on this list than Richard. On top of that, his posts have always included good, solid code and exceptionally helpful comments. He's also been posting for years. You, on the other hand, do what? Oh! Be a jackass? Why, that's helpful! Way to go! Yeesh! - Erik -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To contact the list administrators, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [PHP] PHP Boot Camp [Announcement]
Not to mention, it's a PHP bootcamp, not an HTML Web Design bootcamp. What do the aesthetics of the site have to do with the backend? I've recieved many excellent tips from richard in the past. I'm sure he is qualified to teach PHP. - Original Message - From: Erik H. Mathy [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, September 20, 2001 2:28 PM Subject: RE: [PHP] PHP Boot Camp [Announcement] If HE is the one who did these lame-ass sites: http://www.PHPBootCamp.com http://www.l-i-e.com I don't want to learn anything from him, that's for sure Ay yi yi! Listen here, Flame Boi, why don't you just keep your comments to yourself, h? Unless I'm mistaken, there aren't many people who post more on this list than Richard. On top of that, his posts have always included good, solid code and exceptionally helpful comments. He's also been posting for years. You, on the other hand, do what? Oh! Be a jackass? Why, that's helpful! Way to go! Yeesh! - Erik -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To contact the list administrators, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To contact the list administrators, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [PHP] PHP Boot Camp [Announcement]
http://www.PHPBootCamp.com http://www.l-i-e.com I don't want to learn anything from him, that's for sure Good designers make lousy programmers, and vice versa. And fwiw, my post was supposed to be good natured and tongue-in-cheek. Richard Lynch helps, has helped and will probably continue to help large amounts of people on this list and elsewhere. -- Richard Heyes -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To contact the list administrators, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [PHP] PHP Boot Camp [Announcement]
NoWayMan wrote: If HE is the one who did these lame-ass sites: http://www.PHPBootCamp.com http://www.l-i-e.com I don't want to learn anything from him, that's for sure Listen jackass, Richard is a PHP Programmer, not a Web Designer. Next time you feel like flaming back, do me a favor, shove both feet in your mouth first. -- W | I haven't lost my mind; it's backed up on tape somewhere. + Ashley M. Kirchner mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] . 303.442.6410 x130 IT Director / SysAdmin / WebSmith . 800.441.3873 x130 Photo Craft Laboratories, Inc.. 3550 Arapahoe Ave. #6 http://www.pcraft.com . . .. Boulder, CO 80303, U.S.A. -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To contact the list administrators, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [PHP] PHP Boot Camp [Announcement]
OOOH, touched a nerve... I'm sorry to have iblasphemed/i. I was just making an observation that the sites he produced were pretty lame. I was just suggesting that even if he was such a hot-shot PHP guru, he'd want to have some sort of niceness about the sites he produces. I am, honestly, just beginning with PHP but have rpogrammed in other languages for several years. But that doesn't make me a bad web site designer. I am helping to design an E-Commerce instruction class and intend on making PHP one of the main topics. IT will be similar to the BootCamp but over a number of weeks .vs 2-days. I guess I should have included a few hunderd :) so you folks wouldn't have taken it so seriously. Listen jackass, Richard is a PHP Programmer, not a Web Designer. Next time you feel like flaming back, do me a favor, shove both feet in your mouth first. -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To contact the list administrators, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
