Re: [PHP] Web host with SOAP

2008-03-14 Thread Daniel Brown
On Thu, Mar 13, 2008 at 10:53 PM, Shawn McKenzie [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  
   Ooo...  I want SUDO!

  ALL = NOPASSWD: ALL

  please!

Which is exactly why you get the following FANTASTIC package!

* No shell access
* No databases
* No scripting support
* No FTP access
* 500K shared web space (additional 500K blocks are just $7.99)
* A free @gmail.com address
* No tech support
* No crons
* No SSI
* No SSL
* 5MB transfer per month (additional 1MB blocks are only $4.99)

All for the exclusive Internet price created just for you: $99.99
per month with a $99 one-time setup fee and $7/mo. account maintenance
fee. ;-P

All kidding aside, it's rather reminiscent of the pioneering days
of the web hosting industry.  Check it out on the Internet Archive.

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[PHP] Web host with SOAP

2008-03-13 Thread Larry Garfield

Hi all.  I am looking for a web host for a site.  The usual host I work with is 
missing some important functionality, so I need to look elsewhere for this 
project.  Specifically, I need web host that offers the following:

- PHP 5.2.x
- SOAP support
- MySQL 5.0.x
- Allows .htaccess configuration

My current host is fine aside from the SOAP support, which is missing.  

Does anyone have any good recommendations for such a host?  I'd prefer shared 
(it shouldn't be a super-high-traffic site), but if necessary I'm open to 
dedicated if it's not too pricey.  I am willing to pay for quality service (so 
I don't need a cheapo $5/month site).  

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Re: [PHP] Web host with SOAP

2008-03-13 Thread Daniel Brown
On Thu, Mar 13, 2008 at 5:33 PM, Larry Garfield [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  Hi all.  I am looking for a web host for a site.  The usual host I work with 
 is missing some important functionality, so I need to look elsewhere for this 
 project.  Specifically, I need web host that offers the following:

  - PHP 5.2.x
  - SOAP support
  - MySQL 5.0.x
  - Allows .htaccess configuration

Larry,

I'm on 5.2.4 on the primary server right now, and if you need
something installed at root level, it's usually no problem (especially
for things like SOAP).  Send me a message off-list if you haven't
already found what you're looking for, and if you want references,
there are some on the list here even who host some sites with me.  Let
me know and I'm sure it won't be a problem to have them give you an
*honest* opinion about things.

Plus, for a few people here, I don't have much issue with granting
sudo but don't tell anyone else.  ;-P

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Re: [PHP] Web host with SOAP

2008-03-13 Thread Shawn McKenzie
Daniel Brown wrote:
 On Thu, Mar 13, 2008 at 5:33 PM, Larry Garfield [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Hi all.  I am looking for a web host for a site.  The usual host I work 
 with is missing some important functionality, so I need to look elsewhere 
 for this project.  Specifically, I need web host that offers the following:

  - PHP 5.2.x
  - SOAP support
  - MySQL 5.0.x
  - Allows .htaccess configuration
 
 Larry,
 
 I'm on 5.2.4 on the primary server right now, and if you need
 something installed at root level, it's usually no problem (especially
 for things like SOAP).  Send me a message off-list if you haven't
 already found what you're looking for, and if you want references,
 there are some on the list here even who host some sites with me.  Let
 me know and I'm sure it won't be a problem to have them give you an
 *honest* opinion about things.
 
 Plus, for a few people here, I don't have much issue with granting
 sudo but don't tell anyone else.  ;-P
 
Ooo...  I want SUDO!

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Re: [PHP] Web host with SOAP

2008-03-13 Thread Shawn McKenzie
Shawn McKenzie wrote:
 Daniel Brown wrote:
 On Thu, Mar 13, 2008 at 5:33 PM, Larry Garfield [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Hi all.  I am looking for a web host for a site.  The usual host I work 
 with is missing some important functionality, so I need to look elsewhere 
 for this project.  Specifically, I need web host that offers the following:

  - PHP 5.2.x
  - SOAP support
  - MySQL 5.0.x
  - Allows .htaccess configuration
 Larry,

 I'm on 5.2.4 on the primary server right now, and if you need
 something installed at root level, it's usually no problem (especially
 for things like SOAP).  Send me a message off-list if you haven't
 already found what you're looking for, and if you want references,
 there are some on the list here even who host some sites with me.  Let
 me know and I'm sure it won't be a problem to have them give you an
 *honest* opinion about things.

 Plus, for a few people here, I don't have much issue with granting
 sudo but don't tell anyone else.  ;-P

 Ooo...  I want SUDO!

ALL = NOPASSWD: ALL

please!

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[PHP] WEB HOST

2003-06-24 Thread Denis 'Alpheus' Cahuk
I need a php4 web host with MySQL.
It has to be free and there should be no ads or pop-ups.
I should be allowed to show my own ads on my page.
Denis 'Alpheus' Cahuk

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[PHP] WEB HOST NEEDED!!!!!

2003-06-24 Thread Denis 'Alpheus' Cahuk
Like I said, I need a web host.
It MUST support PHP, mySQl and sending emails, optional.
It shouldn't have any ads (pop-ups, ads), but I will allow if it has 
watermarks (SMALL! watermarks).
It should be TOTALY FREE!

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RE: [PHP] WEB HOST NEEDED!!!!!

2003-06-24 Thread Jay Blanchard
[snip]
Like I said, I need a web host.
It MUST support PHP, mySQl and sending emails, optional.
It shouldn't have any ads (pop-ups, ads), but I will allow if it has 
watermarks (SMALL! watermarks).
It should be TOTALY FREE!
[/snip]

Denis I am going to make a small suggestion, please Google for this
information. Apparently many of the answers that have been given to you
on this list are not acceptable. Do some research. There is no such
thing as totally free.

HTH!

Jay

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Re: [PHP] WEB HOST NEEDED!!!!!

2003-06-24 Thread Wendell Brown
On Tue, 24 Jun 2003 14:09:30 +0200, Denis 'Alpheus' Cahuk wrote:

It should be TOTALY FREE!

I've got you covered.  I will happily offer all of the items you
request.  No advertising or anything, full php, front page, mysql, 500
Meg disk space.

I do charge $500 per month if you want upload privileges, a login and
in your case the necessary monthly application of Troll-Be-Gone




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Re: [PHP] WEB HOST NEEDED!!!!!

2003-06-24 Thread Mark Tehara
http://www.futurepathsnz.com/webhosting.html
Cheap hosting.
http://www.aoteahosting.com/
Moew Cheap hosting

Free isn't the word.  Free is for scabs

- Original Message - 
From: Denis 'Alpheus' Cahuk [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, June 25, 2003 12:09 AM
Subject: [PHP] WEB HOST NEEDED!


 Like I said, I need a web host.
 It MUST support PHP, mySQl and sending emails, optional.
 It shouldn't have any ads (pop-ups, ads), but I will allow if it has 
 watermarks (SMALL! watermarks).
 It should be TOTALY FREE!
 
 
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Re: [PHP] WEB HOST NEEDED!!!!!

2003-06-24 Thread erythros
he should ask for a pony too while he's at it...

Jay Blanchard [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
[snip]
Like I said, I need a web host.
It MUST support PHP, mySQl and sending emails, optional.
It shouldn't have any ads (pop-ups, ads), but I will allow if it has
watermarks (SMALL! watermarks).
It should be TOTALY FREE!
[/snip]

Denis I am going to make a small suggestion, please Google for this
information. Apparently many of the answers that have been given to you
on this list are not acceptable. Do some research. There is no such
thing as totally free.

HTH!

Jay



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RE: [PHP] WEB HOST NEEDED!!!!!

2003-06-24 Thread PHP4 Emailer
SO let me get this straight, IF I pay 1000.00 a month, you'll throw the
pony in?

Sweet, where do I sign up!!

PS, if for some unknown reason the credit card I enter doesn't work it's
because I got it for free. :)

-Original Message-
From: erythros [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, June 24, 2003 5:44 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [PHP] WEB HOST NEEDED!


he should ask for a pony too while he's at it...

Jay Blanchard [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
[snip]
Like I said, I need a web host.
It MUST support PHP, mySQl and sending emails, optional.
It shouldn't have any ads (pop-ups, ads), but I will allow if it has
watermarks (SMALL! watermarks).
It should be TOTALY FREE!
[/snip]

Denis I am going to make a small suggestion, please Google for this
information. Apparently many of the answers that have been given to you
on this list are not acceptable. Do some research. There is no such
thing as totally free.

HTH!

Jay



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Re: [PHP] I'm in need of a PHP web host recommendation

2002-11-17 Thread John Lim
I would recommend http://futurequest.net

Good, reliable, and very skilled technical people, who know linux and
web-hosting inside out.

John Kenyon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message
[EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...


 Jason Reid wrote:

 I suggest paying a visit to www.webhostingtalk.com and search the
forums... theres tons of information on the large, and small hosts that
might help.
 

 I use www.phpwebhosting.com and have been happy with them so far. $10 a
 month, but they are generous (and flexible, at least so they say) about
 space and bandwidth.

 jck




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Re: [PHP] I'm in need of a PHP web host recommendation

2002-11-17 Thread Jason Sheets
I think this thread has gone on a while but ... I personally recommend
pair (http://www.pair.net) to everyone who asks.  They have an excellent
infrastructure, excellent support, excellent hosting plans and they have
been doing web hosting for years (and making a profit at it).

They own their hardware and Internet connections so they can resolve
issues much faster than someone who is colocated.

pair also lets you host multiple domains on one hosting account which
saves you money if you have multiple domains.

Additionally I would also recommend fidelityhost.com, they also allow
multiple domains have good network speeds and excellent customer
service.

Jason


On Sun, 2002-11-17 at 01:47, John Lim wrote:
 I would recommend http://futurequest.net
 
 Good, reliable, and very skilled technical people, who know linux and
 web-hosting inside out.
 
 John Kenyon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
 
 
  Jason Reid wrote:
 
  I suggest paying a visit to www.webhostingtalk.com and search the
 forums... theres tons of information on the large, and small hosts that
 might help.
  
 
  I use www.phpwebhosting.com and have been happy with them so far. $10 a
  month, but they are generous (and flexible, at least so they say) about
  space and bandwidth.
 
  jck
 
 
 
 
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RE: [PHP] I'm in need of a PHP web host recommendation

2002-11-17 Thread Brendon G

ProHosters

http://www.prohosters.com

Good plans, Good Price, Great Support.

I recommend the semi dedicated plans.

Cheers

Brendon

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Re: [PHP] I'm in need of a PHP web host recommendation

2002-11-16 Thread Jason Reid
I suggest paying a visit to www.webhostingtalk.com and search the forums... theres 
tons of information on the large, and small hosts that might help. 

Jason Reid
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OrangeHairedBoy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message 
[EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
 Seems a bit expensive though...$7.95/month for 5megs and 1 email.
 
 You could try your-site.com which is $5.00/month for 50megs and 25 email,
 etc...
 
 Or, look at CIHOST.com - the folks I use. Their cheapest unix deal is ~
 $15/month for 100megs, 25+email, mysql, etc...mega fast connection too...
 One thing I like about them is their policy is to never use more than 33% of
 their bandwidth...just in case...site never goes down...i'm on a trip...
 
 Lewis
 
 
 Edward Peloke [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message
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  http://www.ht-tech.net is who I use, VERY GOOD!  Just tell them I sent
 you.
 
  Eddie
 
  -Original Message-
  From: Jon Haworth [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
  Sent: Friday, November 15, 2002 11:49 AM
  To: 'Phil Schwarzmann'; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Subject: RE: [PHP] I'm in need of a PHP web host recommendation
 
 
  Hi Phil,
 
   would like to hear some recommendations of some
   good companies that host PHP/MySQL and also JSP.
 
  http://34sp.com/ are great if you don't mind .uk-based hosting. I've heard
  good things about http://oneandone.co.uk/ but haven't used them myself.
 
  At the other end of the scale, you should stay *well* away from
  http://zenithtech.com/ - they're without a doubt the worst host I've ever
  used.
 
  Cheers
  Jon
 
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Re: [PHP] I'm in need of a PHP web host recommendation

2002-11-16 Thread John Kenyon


Jason Reid wrote:


I suggest paying a visit to www.webhostingtalk.com and search the forums... theres tons of information on the large, and small hosts that might help. 


I use www.phpwebhosting.com and have been happy with them so far. $10 a 
month, but they are generous (and flexible, at least so they say) about 
space and bandwidth.

jck


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[PHP] I'm in need of a PHP web host recommendation

2002-11-15 Thread Phil Schwarzmann
I am quite unhappy with my current web host provider
(www.infinitehost.com http://www.infinitehost.com/ ) and would like to
hear some recommendations of some good companies that host PHP/MySQL and
also JSP.  I'm more than happy to shell out a few extra bucks to get
some good service.
 
Currently I pay $25/month for 100MB of space.  Infinitehost is a just a
mom-and-pop hosting company.  They'll take up for 4-5 days to respond to
one e-mail, my site is down frequently and they haven't lived up to
their guarantees.  I'm sick and tired of it.
 
Thanks so much for your recommendations!!



RE: [PHP] I'm in need of a PHP web host recommendation

2002-11-15 Thread Jon Haworth
Hi Phil,

 would like to hear some recommendations of some 
 good companies that host PHP/MySQL and also JSP.  

http://34sp.com/ are great if you don't mind .uk-based hosting. I've heard
good things about http://oneandone.co.uk/ but haven't used them myself.

At the other end of the scale, you should stay *well* away from
http://zenithtech.com/ - they're without a doubt the worst host I've ever
used.

Cheers
Jon

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RE: [PHP] I'm in need of a PHP web host recommendation

2002-11-15 Thread Edward Peloke
http://www.ht-tech.net is who I use, VERY GOOD!  Just tell them I sent you.

Eddie

-Original Message-
From: Jon Haworth [mailto:jhaworth;witanjardine.co.uk]
Sent: Friday, November 15, 2002 11:49 AM
To: 'Phil Schwarzmann'; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: [PHP] I'm in need of a PHP web host recommendation


Hi Phil,

 would like to hear some recommendations of some 
 good companies that host PHP/MySQL and also JSP.  

http://34sp.com/ are great if you don't mind .uk-based hosting. I've heard
good things about http://oneandone.co.uk/ but haven't used them myself.

At the other end of the scale, you should stay *well* away from
http://zenithtech.com/ - they're without a doubt the worst host I've ever
used.

Cheers
Jon

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Re: [PHP] I'm in need of a PHP web host recommendation

2002-11-15 Thread OrangeHairedBoy
Seems a bit expensive though...$7.95/month for 5megs and 1 email.

You could try your-site.com which is $5.00/month for 50megs and 25 email,
etc...

Or, look at CIHOST.com - the folks I use. Their cheapest unix deal is ~
$15/month for 100megs, 25+email, mysql, etc...mega fast connection too...
One thing I like about them is their policy is to never use more than 33% of
their bandwidth...just in case...site never goes down...i'm on a trip...

Lewis


Edward Peloke [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message
[EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
 http://www.ht-tech.net is who I use, VERY GOOD!  Just tell them I sent
you.

 Eddie

 -Original Message-
 From: Jon Haworth [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Friday, November 15, 2002 11:49 AM
 To: 'Phil Schwarzmann'; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: RE: [PHP] I'm in need of a PHP web host recommendation


 Hi Phil,

  would like to hear some recommendations of some
  good companies that host PHP/MySQL and also JSP.

 http://34sp.com/ are great if you don't mind .uk-based hosting. I've heard
 good things about http://oneandone.co.uk/ but haven't used them myself.

 At the other end of the scale, you should stay *well* away from
 http://zenithtech.com/ - they're without a doubt the worst host I've ever
 used.

 Cheers
 Jon

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[PHP] Web host withdraws support for PHP extensions - supposed secuity risks

2002-08-13 Thread Alan Hale

My Web hosting company has just withdrawn (with no notice) support for PHP
extensions on the grounds they represent security risks and they don't wish
to spend time and effort in evaluating and compensating for those risks.

I'd welcome views on how reasonable this is.

The extension I'm mainly concerned about is GD, which I rely on for
interactive mapping functionality. I find it hard to see how this is a
security risk, but I'm no expert and prepared to be enlightened.

Many thanks

Alan Hale
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Re: [PHP] Web host withdraws support for PHP extensions - supposedsecuity risks

2002-08-13 Thread Rasmus Lerdorf

It's not, your provider is simply lazy.

-Rasmus

On Tue, 13 Aug 2002, Alan Hale wrote:

 My Web hosting company has just withdrawn (with no notice) support for PHP
 extensions on the grounds they represent security risks and they don't wish
 to spend time and effort in evaluating and compensating for those risks.

 I'd welcome views on how reasonable this is.

 The extension I'm mainly concerned about is GD, which I rely on for
 interactive mapping functionality. I find it hard to see how this is a
 security risk, but I'm no expert and prepared to be enlightened.

 Many thanks

 Alan Hale
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Re: [PHP] Web host withdraws support for PHP extensions - supposed secuity risks

2002-08-13 Thread David T-G

Alan --

...and then Alan Hale said...
% 
% My Web hosting company has just withdrawn (with no notice) support for PHP
% extensions on the grounds they represent security risks and they don't wish
% to spend time and effort in evaluating and compensating for those risks.

That, and particularly the no notice part, sure sounds lame.


% 
% I'd welcome views on how reasonable this is.

Hmmm...  Is it a risk?  Well, theoretically everything is a risk; they
might as well just shut down their servers now since they don't want to
compensate for risks.  And anything can be buggy, too, so they'd better
wipe those disks clean of any nasty utilities, servers, or operating
systems.

I guess whether or not it's reasonable depends on what they want their
business to do.  If they want to serve FrontPage web clients and perhaps
a little bit of POP3 email, they don't need php.  They don't need apache
for that matter, either, since it's all configurable and dangerous and
everything.


HTH  HAND

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Re: [PHP] Web host withdraws support for PHP extensions - supposed secuity risks

2002-08-13 Thread The Doctor

On Tue, Aug 13, 2002 at 10:10:45PM +0100, Alan Hale wrote:
 My Web hosting company has just withdrawn (with no notice) support for PHP
 extensions on the grounds they represent security risks and they don't wish
 to spend time and effort in evaluating and compensating for those risks.
 
 I'd welcome views on how reasonable this is.
 
 The extension I'm mainly concerned about is GD, which I rely on for
 interactive mapping functionality. I find it hard to see how this is a
 security risk, but I'm no expert and prepared to be enlightened.


I could host you if interested.  Check http://www.nk.ca .
 
 Many thanks
 
 Alan Hale
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Re: [PHP] What would you want in a PHP web host?

2001-08-06 Thread Joel Ricker


- Original Message -
From: Ryan Fischer [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Are hosting companies reluctant to give you more access rights?

 Usually, and that really sucks, because I've found myself having to set
 up my own pseudo-server on my computer, with PHP4, Apache, and MySQL,
 just to develop, because the hosts I've found are very reluctant to
 either upgrade from PHP, or build PHP with the necessary extensions I
 need.  IMO, PHP4 on web hosts should always be compiles with *all*
 options, so there will be no issue there.  And it should always be
 upgraded to the newest stable version within a week of its release.
 This may be asking a lot, but people should get what they pay for,
 right?

I'm in the same boat but fortunately I've got a great web host who would
give me access to set up my own install.  Is this possible?  Any relavent
documentation anywhere?

Thanks
Joel



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RE: [PHP] What would you want in a PHP web host?

2001-08-03 Thread Jeff Pearson

I am currently working with a hosting company that is striving to attain
everything you all have mentioned. Check out
http://www.eaccounts.net/ref/jp52950052/referer=emaillink

I do the Beta testing for them and have all of my sites hosted there. If
there is something missing, let me know and I'll bring it up to them.


Jeff Pearson


 -Original Message-
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 Please tell me what host you use!!  I cant even seem to get the host I am
 going through to upgrade php.  They'll do it when they feel like is pretty
 much the response I get.  Other host responses:  We don't support php or
 mysql Sometime in the future, but currently no support,
 You're the only
 person that has requested it, so until more demand, we're not going to
 support it  Frustrating, frustrating, frustrating, especially when I feel
 like it's the wave of the future.  A host that provides everything you've
 specified... is to die for :)

 So if you have a list... please do tell! :)

 Rick

  [this is long]
 
  on 8/1/01 1:06 AM, Derek Del Conte at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  I have been developing PHP for a while now, and I am wondering
 how other
  developers find their PHP hosting company.  So far this has not been an
  issue for me because I am always in full control of my servers
 (well, as
  much control as possible with any web server :), but recently
 we have begun
  to host other PHP sites.
 
  my background is networking. i've built and maintained a number of
  increasingly complex networks over the years and at times have been
  intimately involved in the customer support piece. i have had
 many jobs in
  the customer support area outside of technology too. now i
 write and host
  php apps.
 
  We want to make sure that we are providing appropriate support
 to our PHP
  developers.  I see too many hosting companies saying that they
 support PHP,
  but not having anyone familiar with PHP on hand.  We want to
 have actual
  support, a developer to call when you have a PHP issue.
 
  do you _really_ want to pay someone 24x7x365 to maintain a php
 help line?
  the best coding happens outside the 9-5 window.
 
  the way i see it, as a php hosting site, your job is to keep
 the servers up
  and running, 24x7x365, bug-free and up-to-date. php support is
 for software
  consultants (which isn't to say that you can't do both) folks who need
  hosting want realiable hosting.
 
 
  What do you think a medium sized hosting company could do to
 give you (the
  developer) better service and support?
 
  honesty, reliability, communication, response, bandwidth.
 
  Is access to professional PHP developers useful when an issue arises?
 
  i doubt it, but imagine you could come up with a business model for
  providing php development support. probably long term stuff.
 maybe write and
  maintain an application for someone, or possibly training...
 
  i would think of hosting and consulting as separate symbiotic
 businesses.
  you'll get some referral business and a little cross-over, but
 don't expect
  most hosting customers to want support or for folks who've used you to
  consult on a project to host their app with you.
 
  Are hosting companies reluctant to give you more access rights?
 
  if they say 'no', does their reason atleast seem reasonable? are they
  willing to think about it and get back to you? do they say
 'yes' when they
  should be saying 'yes'?
 
  Are they willing to re-compile their PHP build to add other options?
 
  as someone else has said, all options. php hosting should be
 php hosting.
 
  caveat--if there are some options that most folks would reasonably call
  'optional' or 'dangerous', these shouldn't be expected. i am
 pretty new at
  programming and php, so i have no idea if things like this exist. i
  personally only compile in the options i use.
 
  How long do requested changes to the server take?
 
  unreasonable delays are unacceptable. i mean, if you can get it
 done, do it.
  these are our customers. they are giving us money :)
 
  you (or your server dude(ette)) should be as excited as your
 customer is for
  the new features. you should be saying whoa, i can't believe
 that's not in
  there. hold on... ... ... ok, try it now. it works? cool, have
 a good one.
  click :)
 
  (obviously, don't do anything to your box you don't understand, and
  security, security, security, but you get the picture)
 
  What other suggestions do you have for improving the
 relationship between
  the server administrator and the PHP developer?
 
  do the right thing!
 
  i've been on both sides of this (positive and negative :) tell your
  customers everything you know. make it easy for them to obtain
 any and all
  reasonable information 24 hours a day. anticipate customer
 needs. constantly
  re-evaluate all of your policies and let your customers

Re: [PHP] What would you want in a PHP web host?

2001-08-02 Thread mike cullerton

on 8/1/01 11:22 PM, Richard Lynch at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 caveat--if there are some options that most folks would reasonably call
 'optional' or 'dangerous', these shouldn't be expected. i am pretty new at
 programming and php, so i have no idea if things like this exist. i
 personally only compile in the options i use.
 
 There are like 107 PHP third-party extensions.

i was really only talking about the features and packages that come with the
php distribution (mysql, snmp, gd, imap, etc) i may have misunderstood the
question.

 
 A couple are pretty new/raw, a couple are pretty defunct, and some are just
 so damn esoteric or have such a small user-base as to be pointless to
 install unless you really know a customer wants it...
 
 Anticipating what customers want can be tricky, though...

:)

 
 You can now compile PHP and later on add in PHP Extension Modules which is
 cool...  I've done it with GD once, but it doesn't seem stable, or maybe I'm
 doing something funky in the PHP code, as it displays one image only 20%
 (ish) of the time.  I'll add GD for real later, but 20% is fine for the
 proof-of-concept I'm working on right now.
 
 Anyway, you may be able to add in new PHP extensions without re-compiling
 everything, but you'll need to check up on the stability issue.

this is cool to know, thanks.


-- mike cullerton   


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RE: [PHP] What would you want in a PHP web host?

2001-08-02 Thread Kurt Lieber

OK, this bugs me.  Jeff -- you're obviously getting a kickback for any
business you refer to them -- why not mention that in your email so we
all know you have some financial interest in the company?  

--kurt

 -Original Message-
 From: Jeff Pearson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
 Sent: Thursday, August 02, 2001 9:00 AM
 To: Richard Baskett; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: RE: [PHP] What would you want in a PHP web host?
 
 
 I am currently working with a hosting company that is 
 striving to attain everything you all have mentioned. Check 
 out http://www.eaccounts.net/ref/jp52950052/referer=emaillink
 
 I do the Beta testing for them and have all of my sites 
 hosted there. If there is something missing, let me know and 
 I'll bring it up to them.
 
 
 Jeff Pearson
 
 
  -Original Message-
  From: Richard Baskett [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
  Sent: Wednesday, August 01, 2001 6:00 PM
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Subject: Re: [PHP] What would you want in a PHP web host?
 
 
  Please tell me what host you use!!  I cant even seem to get 
 the host I 
  am going through to upgrade php.  They'll do it when they 
 feel like is 
  pretty much the response I get.  Other host responses:  We don't 
  support php or mysql Sometime in the future, but currently no 
  support, You're the only person that has requested it, so 
 until more 
  demand, we're not going to support it  Frustrating, frustrating, 
  frustrating, especially when I feel like it's the wave of 
 the future.  
  A host that provides everything you've specified... is to die for :)
 
  So if you have a list... please do tell! :)
 
  Rick
 
   [this is long]
  
   on 8/1/01 1:06 AM, Derek Del Conte at 
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  
   I have been developing PHP for a while now, and I am wondering
  how other
   developers find their PHP hosting company.  So far this has not 
   been an issue for me because I am always in full control of my 
   servers
  (well, as
   much control as possible with any web server :), but recently
  we have begun
   to host other PHP sites.
  
   my background is networking. i've built and maintained a 
 number of 
   increasingly complex networks over the years and at times 
 have been 
   intimately involved in the customer support piece. i have had
  many jobs in
   the customer support area outside of technology too. now i
  write and host
   php apps.
  
   We want to make sure that we are providing appropriate support
  to our PHP
   developers.  I see too many hosting companies saying that they
  support PHP,
   but not having anyone familiar with PHP on hand.  We want to
  have actual
   support, a developer to call when you have a PHP issue.
  
   do you _really_ want to pay someone 24x7x365 to maintain a php
  help line?
   the best coding happens outside the 9-5 window.
  
   the way i see it, as a php hosting site, your job is to keep
  the servers up
   and running, 24x7x365, bug-free and up-to-date. php support is
  for software
   consultants (which isn't to say that you can't do both) folks who 
   need hosting want realiable hosting.
  
  
   What do you think a medium sized hosting company could do to
  give you (the
   developer) better service and support?
  
   honesty, reliability, communication, response, bandwidth.
  
   Is access to professional PHP developers useful when an issue 
   arises?
  
   i doubt it, but imagine you could come up with a business 
 model for 
   providing php development support. probably long term stuff.
  maybe write and
   maintain an application for someone, or possibly training...
  
   i would think of hosting and consulting as separate symbiotic
  businesses.
   you'll get some referral business and a little cross-over, but
  don't expect
   most hosting customers to want support or for folks 
 who've used you 
   to consult on a project to host their app with you.
  
   Are hosting companies reluctant to give you more access rights?
  
   if they say 'no', does their reason atleast seem reasonable? are 
   they willing to think about it and get back to you? do they say
  'yes' when they
   should be saying 'yes'?
  
   Are they willing to re-compile their PHP build to add other 
   options?
  
   as someone else has said, all options. php hosting should be
  php hosting.
  
   caveat--if there are some options that most folks would 
 reasonably 
   call 'optional' or 'dangerous', these shouldn't be expected. i am
  pretty new at
   programming and php, so i have no idea if things like 
 this exist. i 
   personally only compile in the options i use.
  
   How long do requested changes to the server take?
  
   unreasonable delays are unacceptable. i mean, if you can get it
  done, do it.
   these are our customers. they are giving us money :)
  
   you (or your server dude(ette)) should be as excited as your
  customer is for
   the new features. you should be saying whoa, i can't believe
  that's not in
   there. hold on... ... ... ok, try it now. it works

[PHP] What would you want in a PHP web host?

2001-08-01 Thread Derek Del Conte

I have been developing PHP for a while now, and I am wondering how other
developers find their PHP hosting company.  So far this has not been an
issue for me because I am always in full control of my servers (well, as
much control as possible with any web server :), but recently we have begun
to host other PHP sites.

We want to make sure that we are providing appropriate support to our PHP
developers.  I see too many hosting companies saying that they support PHP,
but not having anyone familiar with PHP on hand.  We want to have actual
support, a developer to call when you have a PHP issue.


What do you think a medium sized hosting company could do to give you (the
developer) better service and support?

Is access to professional PHP developers useful when an issue arises?

Are hosting companies reluctant to give you more access rights?

Are they willing to re-compile their PHP build to add other options?

How long do requested changes to the server take?

What other suggestions do you have for improving the relationship between
the server administrator and the PHP developer?


I spent some time going through the PHP site looking at the list of hosts
supporting PHP, but I didn't find any real discussion about what people want
in a host (although I did find plenty of things they don't want :).

I just figured that I would ask the PHP community exactly what they wanted.
Thank you for any insight that you can give me.

--derek


Derek Del Conte [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Gambit Design Internet Services
610.444.2443 610.368.9845 cellular
110 East State Street, Suite 18, Kennett Square, PA 19348


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[PHP] Re: What would you want in a PHP web host?

2001-08-01 Thread Soeren Nielsen

Derek Del Conte [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote a lot that I snipped
:-)

Dear Derek
To give you some input I can tell you about some recently experienced
things in my php world...

I:
My homepage is running on a server which host a lot of other domains.
Therefor I contacted the company to know if they had any plans about the
security issues that arise when many php developers can steal anything
they want from other sites on the same server.
The response was that there they knew the security wasn't ok but nobody
could access sensitive information (?!).
a) They dont know better/Dont have a person that actually know php. Or
b) They lie hopeing that I won't notice
They also told me that they would not do a thing about it

What I wanted was:
a) An honest answer
b) A promise to look into it, report back and maybe fix the problem or
warn about the risk. Not just look the other way pretending that there's
no problem.

II:
As a developer I want access to several databases - not just one.
The company that hosts my site refuse to create more than one database
because of the ressources (human and technical) it takes.

I hope you could this.

Regards
Soeren Nielsen



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Re: [PHP] What would you want in a PHP web host?

2001-08-01 Thread pierre-yves

I am not shure a php developer would need help from another php developer at
the hosting company.
What we need is:
-Sys Admin that understand php.
-Sys Admin that knows how to secure the server and be able to tell the
developer what to follow in order
to built secure code. If system command are disable, developers should
kwnow. The developpers should
know exactly their options and access rights. Then they have the choice to
built around that or host elsewhere.
-Time, we need fast, fast and very fast response. (2 days to create a
databases is 47 hours too much!)
-The ability to put some stuff out of the web server tree. (like file with
passwords or secret hash string)
-Honesty! I got a lot of we will look into that... or no our server was
never spammed or attacked... with
some company that where pure lies.

py


- Original Message -
From: Derek Del Conte [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, August 01, 2001 3:06 AM
Subject: [PHP] What would you want in a PHP web host?


 I have been developing PHP for a while now, and I am wondering how other
 developers find their PHP hosting company.  So far this has not been an
 issue for me because I am always in full control of my servers (well, as
 much control as possible with any web server :), but recently we have
begun
 to host other PHP sites.

 We want to make sure that we are providing appropriate support to our PHP
 developers.  I see too many hosting companies saying that they support
PHP,
 but not having anyone familiar with PHP on hand.  We want to have actual
 support, a developer to call when you have a PHP issue.


 What do you think a medium sized hosting company could do to give you (the
 developer) better service and support?

 Is access to professional PHP developers useful when an issue arises?

 Are hosting companies reluctant to give you more access rights?

 Are they willing to re-compile their PHP build to add other options?

 How long do requested changes to the server take?

 What other suggestions do you have for improving the relationship between
 the server administrator and the PHP developer?


 I spent some time going through the PHP site looking at the list of hosts
 supporting PHP, but I didn't find any real discussion about what people
want
 in a host (although I did find plenty of things they don't want :).

 I just figured that I would ask the PHP community exactly what they
wanted.
 Thank you for any insight that you can give me.

 --derek

 
 Derek Del Conte [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Gambit Design Internet Services
 610.444.2443 610.368.9845 cellular
 110 East State Street, Suite 18, Kennett Square, PA 19348


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Re: [PHP] What would you want in a PHP web host?

2001-08-01 Thread Ryan Fischer

You wrote:
 What do you think a medium sized hosting company could do to give you
(the
 developer) better service and support?

Be willing to help their users in any way they can, as far as service
goes.

 Is access to professional PHP developers useful when an issue arises?

Depends on the issue.

 Are hosting companies reluctant to give you more access rights?

Usually, and that really sucks, because I've found myself having to set
up my own pseudo-server on my computer, with PHP4, Apache, and MySQL,
just to develop, because the hosts I've found are very reluctant to
either upgrade from PHP, or build PHP with the necessary extensions I
need.  IMO, PHP4 on web hosts should always be compiles with *all*
options, so there will be no issue there.  And it should always be
upgraded to the newest stable version within a week of its release.
This may be asking a lot, but people should get what they pay for,
right?

 Are they willing to re-compile their PHP build to add other options?

No.  See above.

 How long do requested changes to the server take?

Way too long.  The changes requested should take place (ideally) in less
than 24 hours.

 What other suggestions do you have for improving the relationship
between
 the server administrator and the PHP developer?

Be nice, and be available to help.

 I spent some time going through the PHP site looking at the list of
hosts
 supporting PHP, but I didn't find any real discussion about what
people want
 in a host (although I did find plenty of things they don't want :).

Because things they don't want are obviously more abundant.  ;)  I think
people just want to be happy with the service their host provides, and
that means the host needs to be prompt and attentive and ready to
assist.

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Re: [PHP] What would you want in a PHP web host?

2001-08-01 Thread mike cullerton

[this is long]

on 8/1/01 1:06 AM, Derek Del Conte at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I have been developing PHP for a while now, and I am wondering how other
 developers find their PHP hosting company.  So far this has not been an
 issue for me because I am always in full control of my servers (well, as
 much control as possible with any web server :), but recently we have begun
 to host other PHP sites.

my background is networking. i've built and maintained a number of
increasingly complex networks over the years and at times have been
intimately involved in the customer support piece. i have had many jobs in
the customer support area outside of technology too. now i write and host
php apps.

 We want to make sure that we are providing appropriate support to our PHP
 developers.  I see too many hosting companies saying that they support PHP,
 but not having anyone familiar with PHP on hand.  We want to have actual
 support, a developer to call when you have a PHP issue.

do you _really_ want to pay someone 24x7x365 to maintain a php help line?
the best coding happens outside the 9-5 window.

the way i see it, as a php hosting site, your job is to keep the servers up
and running, 24x7x365, bug-free and up-to-date. php support is for software
consultants (which isn't to say that you can't do both) folks who need
hosting want realiable hosting.
 
 
 What do you think a medium sized hosting company could do to give you (the
 developer) better service and support?

honesty, reliability, communication, response, bandwidth.

 Is access to professional PHP developers useful when an issue arises?

i doubt it, but imagine you could come up with a business model for
providing php development support. probably long term stuff. maybe write and
maintain an application for someone, or possibly training...

i would think of hosting and consulting as separate symbiotic businesses.
you'll get some referral business and a little cross-over, but don't expect
most hosting customers to want support or for folks who've used you to
consult on a project to host their app with you.

 Are hosting companies reluctant to give you more access rights?

if they say 'no', does their reason atleast seem reasonable? are they
willing to think about it and get back to you? do they say 'yes' when they
should be saying 'yes'?

 Are they willing to re-compile their PHP build to add other options?

as someone else has said, all options. php hosting should be php hosting.

caveat--if there are some options that most folks would reasonably call
'optional' or 'dangerous', these shouldn't be expected. i am pretty new at
programming and php, so i have no idea if things like this exist. i
personally only compile in the options i use.

 How long do requested changes to the server take?

unreasonable delays are unacceptable. i mean, if you can get it done, do it.
these are our customers. they are giving us money :)

you (or your server dude(ette)) should be as excited as your customer is for
the new features. you should be saying whoa, i can't believe that's not in
there. hold on... ... ... ok, try it now. it works? cool, have a good one.
click :)

(obviously, don't do anything to your box you don't understand, and
security, security, security, but you get the picture)

 What other suggestions do you have for improving the relationship between
 the server administrator and the PHP developer?

do the right thing!

i've been on both sides of this (positive and negative :) tell your
customers everything you know. make it easy for them to obtain any and all
reasonable information 24 hours a day. anticipate customer needs. constantly
re-evaluate all of your policies and let your customers know them.

your business should constantly evolve to your changing customer base. when
a customer makes a request for something you haven't considered, your
response should be hmmm..., that's interesting. let us talk about that a
little and get back to you. and then, slap yourself for not having
anticipated the request, talk about it and get back to them. keep them
informed.

the successful enterprises i've been involved with cared about their
customers, educated themselves about their endeavor and did the right thing.
too many businesses make decisions for the wrong reasons--political
infighting, process management, knee-jerk reaction, unmotivated employee,
you name it. when a question arises, folks need to openly discuss it and
come to concensus. too many folks can't admit they might not know something
(or even that times have changed) and they keep doing the wrong thing.

do the right thing!

 I spent some time going through the PHP site looking at the list of hosts
 supporting PHP, but I didn't find any real discussion about what people want
 in a host (although I did find plenty of things they don't want :).

think about what you want in support from your vendors. support is support.
even monkeys can be trained. it takes someone who cares to provide good
support.

 I 

Re: [PHP] What would you want in a PHP web host?

2001-08-01 Thread Richard Baskett

Please tell me what host you use!!  I cant even seem to get the host I am
going through to upgrade php.  They'll do it when they feel like is pretty
much the response I get.  Other host responses:  We don't support php or
mysql Sometime in the future, but currently no support,  You're the only
person that has requested it, so until more demand, we're not going to
support it  Frustrating, frustrating, frustrating, especially when I feel
like it's the wave of the future.  A host that provides everything you've
specified... is to die for :)

So if you have a list... please do tell! :)

Rick

 [this is long]
 
 on 8/1/01 1:06 AM, Derek Del Conte at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 I have been developing PHP for a while now, and I am wondering how other
 developers find their PHP hosting company.  So far this has not been an
 issue for me because I am always in full control of my servers (well, as
 much control as possible with any web server :), but recently we have begun
 to host other PHP sites.
 
 my background is networking. i've built and maintained a number of
 increasingly complex networks over the years and at times have been
 intimately involved in the customer support piece. i have had many jobs in
 the customer support area outside of technology too. now i write and host
 php apps.
 
 We want to make sure that we are providing appropriate support to our PHP
 developers.  I see too many hosting companies saying that they support PHP,
 but not having anyone familiar with PHP on hand.  We want to have actual
 support, a developer to call when you have a PHP issue.
 
 do you _really_ want to pay someone 24x7x365 to maintain a php help line?
 the best coding happens outside the 9-5 window.
 
 the way i see it, as a php hosting site, your job is to keep the servers up
 and running, 24x7x365, bug-free and up-to-date. php support is for software
 consultants (which isn't to say that you can't do both) folks who need
 hosting want realiable hosting.
 
 
 What do you think a medium sized hosting company could do to give you (the
 developer) better service and support?
 
 honesty, reliability, communication, response, bandwidth.
 
 Is access to professional PHP developers useful when an issue arises?
 
 i doubt it, but imagine you could come up with a business model for
 providing php development support. probably long term stuff. maybe write and
 maintain an application for someone, or possibly training...
 
 i would think of hosting and consulting as separate symbiotic businesses.
 you'll get some referral business and a little cross-over, but don't expect
 most hosting customers to want support or for folks who've used you to
 consult on a project to host their app with you.
 
 Are hosting companies reluctant to give you more access rights?
 
 if they say 'no', does their reason atleast seem reasonable? are they
 willing to think about it and get back to you? do they say 'yes' when they
 should be saying 'yes'?
 
 Are they willing to re-compile their PHP build to add other options?
 
 as someone else has said, all options. php hosting should be php hosting.
 
 caveat--if there are some options that most folks would reasonably call
 'optional' or 'dangerous', these shouldn't be expected. i am pretty new at
 programming and php, so i have no idea if things like this exist. i
 personally only compile in the options i use.
 
 How long do requested changes to the server take?
 
 unreasonable delays are unacceptable. i mean, if you can get it done, do it.
 these are our customers. they are giving us money :)
 
 you (or your server dude(ette)) should be as excited as your customer is for
 the new features. you should be saying whoa, i can't believe that's not in
 there. hold on... ... ... ok, try it now. it works? cool, have a good one.
 click :)
 
 (obviously, don't do anything to your box you don't understand, and
 security, security, security, but you get the picture)
 
 What other suggestions do you have for improving the relationship between
 the server administrator and the PHP developer?
 
 do the right thing!
 
 i've been on both sides of this (positive and negative :) tell your
 customers everything you know. make it easy for them to obtain any and all
 reasonable information 24 hours a day. anticipate customer needs. constantly
 re-evaluate all of your policies and let your customers know them.
 
 your business should constantly evolve to your changing customer base. when
 a customer makes a request for something you haven't considered, your
 response should be hmmm..., that's interesting. let us talk about that a
 little and get back to you. and then, slap yourself for not having
 anticipated the request, talk about it and get back to them. keep them
 informed.
 
 the successful enterprises i've been involved with cared about their
 customers, educated themselves about their endeavor and did the right thing.
 too many businesses make decisions for the wrong reasons--political
 infighting, process 

Re: [PHP] What would you want in a PHP web host?

2001-08-01 Thread Richard Lynch

  I have been developing PHP for a while now, and I am wondering how other
  developers find their PHP hosting company.

Get recommendations from other users.

Also, be ready to move at any time.

I lucked out on my second ISP, and was (mostly) happy for several years.

Actually, I didn't know how good I had it, until...
[darkening sky and thunder in the distance]

They got bought out.  The nightmare begins...

I'll skip all the sordid details, as you don't have several hours to listen
to it all.

But I've spent uncountable man-hours trying to get the old ISP to keep my
sites up-and-running while spending uncountable man-hours moving them to
another server.  I went from maintenance mode on a dozen sites to panic mode
on the old server, and re-install and test everything on the new server.

On the bright side:  I trust the new host implicitly, and I *KNOW* he's not
looking to sell out, and is in this for the long haul of providing good
service at a fair price.

  We want to make sure that we are providing appropriate support to our
PHP
  developers.  I see too many hosting companies saying that they support
  PHP,
  but not having anyone familiar with PHP on hand.  We want to have actual
  support, a developer to call when you have a PHP issue.

That's really more than required -- I need a SysAdmin who understands PHP
and whatever extensions they promised well enough to know how to keep it
running.  I don't need a PHP developer to fix my code.

Counter-example:
The bad ISP above literally called me at one point, and he said he knew
Oracle, but not PostgreSQL (which was dead on their server at the time) and
asked if I'd be willing to help.  Sure, I said.  The tech then began
reading to me from the first page of the PostgreSQL manual...
[This is a small scene in the nightmare I promised not to go into...
Sorry.]

  What do you think a medium sized hosting company could do to give you
(the
  developer) better service and support?

Clearly list which extensions you have enabled, and at what versions.
Clearly state your upgrade policy up-front for PHP *and* all extensions.

MAINTAIN IT!   If you lose your MySQL guru, then find another one fast, or
phase out MySQL support

  Is access to professional PHP developers useful when an issue arises?

No, that's what the mailing list is for.  I want access to a SysAdmin, not a
PHP developer.

  Are hosting companies reluctant to give you more access rights?

Actually, the original good ISP gave me compiler access, as I was playing
with gnupg in beta status, and they figured that was better than
re-compiling for me every couple days :-)

They also ran PHP as a CGI with suExec because their other customers didn't
need it, and they weren't willing to install it and increase httpd risks
just for me.  This was a pain sometimes, but they were always willing to
help me work around it.

Alas, they also gave CGI access to some idiots who continually ran run-away
scripts (Perl probably) that would bring the server to its knees.  Sigh.  Oh
well, guess you can't have everything.

The bad ISP wouldn't even send me a list of the files in my PostgreSQL
directories.  Had they done that, I coulda told them it was puking because
/var was full because a bunch of long-dead temp tables were left over from
queries that were just too big and crashed the server.  We could have wiped
those out and saved uncountable hours of pain.  I might even still be their
customer if they'd done one little thing different on day one.

It's always a judgement call whom to trust how much.  Either your ISP is
good at it, and everybody's happy, or they've got an inflexible policy in
place, and most people are happy, or they suck, and nobody's happy.

  Are they willing to re-compile their PHP build to add other options?

Probably not.

  How long do requested changes to the server take?

Most should be done within 24 hours.  Tricky ones should get a non-automated
response as to why they aren't done, and some sort of
negotiation/counter-offer of how to solve the problem.

  What other suggestions do you have for improving the relationship
between
  the server administrator and the PHP developer?

Build a tracking db to issue ticket numbers for each problem, and use it
religiously.
Respond with a live answer that it's fixed, or an ETA, or establishes a
dialog for how to resolve within 24 hours.

If you *REALLY* want to provide top-notch PHP services, consider using
vmware and giving each customer root.  Or give each customer their own pool
of httpd processes to configure they way they want.

You won't be able to squeeze as many customers on the box, but they'll be
happy and probably willing to pay a little more.

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[PHP] Re: What would you want in a PHP web host?

2001-08-01 Thread Matt Rogers

I must say that we have been very lucky...  For the past 5 years, we have
been with pair Networks (pair.com) and have had no serious problems or
complaints with them.

Although, it _would_ be nice to have the ability to ask a person (developer)
a question and get a response quite soon, but that is pretty much for
newbies, as a developer or like anyone else here, uses mailing lists and
newsgroups.

If you can provide excellent service to your customers from the beginning
and continue as they pay you more and you fork out more, there's no doubt
you will have any trouble doing as you wish for and with your clients.

But, of course, as any business person knows-- there's ALWAYS going to be an
unhappy soul that tries to ruin it for you.

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Re: [PHP] What would you want in a PHP web host?

2001-08-01 Thread Richard Lynch

 caveat--if there are some options that most folks would reasonably call
 'optional' or 'dangerous', these shouldn't be expected. i am pretty new at
 programming and php, so i have no idea if things like this exist. i
 personally only compile in the options i use.

There are like 107 PHP third-party extensions.

A couple are pretty new/raw, a couple are pretty defunct, and some are just
so damn esoteric or have such a small user-base as to be pointless to
install unless you really know a customer wants it...

Anticipating what customers want can be tricky, though...

You can now compile PHP and later on add in PHP Extension Modules which is
cool...  I've done it with GD once, but it doesn't seem stable, or maybe I'm
doing something funky in the PHP code, as it displays one image only 20%
(ish) of the time.  I'll add GD for real later, but 20% is fine for the
proof-of-concept I'm working on right now.

Anyway, you may be able to add in new PHP extensions without re-compiling
everything, but you'll need to check up on the stability issue.

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Re: [PHP] Web Host

2001-05-16 Thread Deependra B. Tandukar

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 I need a web host with myslq and PHP. Also i would be good if it have a
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2001-05-16 Thread Manesh Manickam

I need a web host with myslq and PHP. Also i would be good if it have a STMP
server to!  Please just reply to there posts!


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Re: [PHP] Web Host

2001-05-16 Thread John Monfort


 We offer hosting with PHP,MySQL, and SMTP.

  www.pepiedesigns.com


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