Re: [PHP] Web host with SOAP
On Thu, Mar 13, 2008 at 10:53 PM, Shawn McKenzie [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ooo... I want SUDO! ALL = NOPASSWD: ALL please! Which is exactly why you get the following FANTASTIC package! * No shell access * No databases * No scripting support * No FTP access * 500K shared web space (additional 500K blocks are just $7.99) * A free @gmail.com address * No tech support * No crons * No SSI * No SSL * 5MB transfer per month (additional 1MB blocks are only $4.99) All for the exclusive Internet price created just for you: $99.99 per month with a $99 one-time setup fee and $7/mo. account maintenance fee. ;-P All kidding aside, it's rather reminiscent of the pioneering days of the web hosting industry. Check it out on the Internet Archive. -- /Daniel P. Brown Forensic Services, Senior Unix Engineer 1+ (570-) 362-0283 -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
[PHP] Web host with SOAP
Hi all. I am looking for a web host for a site. The usual host I work with is missing some important functionality, so I need to look elsewhere for this project. Specifically, I need web host that offers the following: - PHP 5.2.x - SOAP support - MySQL 5.0.x - Allows .htaccess configuration My current host is fine aside from the SOAP support, which is missing. Does anyone have any good recommendations for such a host? I'd prefer shared (it shouldn't be a super-high-traffic site), but if necessary I'm open to dedicated if it's not too pricey. I am willing to pay for quality service (so I don't need a cheapo $5/month site). --Larry Garfield -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] Web host with SOAP
On Thu, Mar 13, 2008 at 5:33 PM, Larry Garfield [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi all. I am looking for a web host for a site. The usual host I work with is missing some important functionality, so I need to look elsewhere for this project. Specifically, I need web host that offers the following: - PHP 5.2.x - SOAP support - MySQL 5.0.x - Allows .htaccess configuration Larry, I'm on 5.2.4 on the primary server right now, and if you need something installed at root level, it's usually no problem (especially for things like SOAP). Send me a message off-list if you haven't already found what you're looking for, and if you want references, there are some on the list here even who host some sites with me. Let me know and I'm sure it won't be a problem to have them give you an *honest* opinion about things. Plus, for a few people here, I don't have much issue with granting sudo but don't tell anyone else. ;-P -- /Dan Daniel P. Brown Senior Unix Geek ? while(1) { $me = $mind--; sleep(86400); } ? -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] Web host with SOAP
Daniel Brown wrote: On Thu, Mar 13, 2008 at 5:33 PM, Larry Garfield [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi all. I am looking for a web host for a site. The usual host I work with is missing some important functionality, so I need to look elsewhere for this project. Specifically, I need web host that offers the following: - PHP 5.2.x - SOAP support - MySQL 5.0.x - Allows .htaccess configuration Larry, I'm on 5.2.4 on the primary server right now, and if you need something installed at root level, it's usually no problem (especially for things like SOAP). Send me a message off-list if you haven't already found what you're looking for, and if you want references, there are some on the list here even who host some sites with me. Let me know and I'm sure it won't be a problem to have them give you an *honest* opinion about things. Plus, for a few people here, I don't have much issue with granting sudo but don't tell anyone else. ;-P Ooo... I want SUDO! -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] Web host with SOAP
Shawn McKenzie wrote: Daniel Brown wrote: On Thu, Mar 13, 2008 at 5:33 PM, Larry Garfield [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi all. I am looking for a web host for a site. The usual host I work with is missing some important functionality, so I need to look elsewhere for this project. Specifically, I need web host that offers the following: - PHP 5.2.x - SOAP support - MySQL 5.0.x - Allows .htaccess configuration Larry, I'm on 5.2.4 on the primary server right now, and if you need something installed at root level, it's usually no problem (especially for things like SOAP). Send me a message off-list if you haven't already found what you're looking for, and if you want references, there are some on the list here even who host some sites with me. Let me know and I'm sure it won't be a problem to have them give you an *honest* opinion about things. Plus, for a few people here, I don't have much issue with granting sudo but don't tell anyone else. ;-P Ooo... I want SUDO! ALL = NOPASSWD: ALL please! -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
[PHP] WEB HOST
I need a php4 web host with MySQL. It has to be free and there should be no ads or pop-ups. I should be allowed to show my own ads on my page. Denis 'Alpheus' Cahuk -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
[PHP] WEB HOST NEEDED!!!!!
Like I said, I need a web host. It MUST support PHP, mySQl and sending emails, optional. It shouldn't have any ads (pop-ups, ads), but I will allow if it has watermarks (SMALL! watermarks). It should be TOTALY FREE! -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
RE: [PHP] WEB HOST NEEDED!!!!!
[snip] Like I said, I need a web host. It MUST support PHP, mySQl and sending emails, optional. It shouldn't have any ads (pop-ups, ads), but I will allow if it has watermarks (SMALL! watermarks). It should be TOTALY FREE! [/snip] Denis I am going to make a small suggestion, please Google for this information. Apparently many of the answers that have been given to you on this list are not acceptable. Do some research. There is no such thing as totally free. HTH! Jay -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] WEB HOST NEEDED!!!!!
On Tue, 24 Jun 2003 14:09:30 +0200, Denis 'Alpheus' Cahuk wrote: It should be TOTALY FREE! I've got you covered. I will happily offer all of the items you request. No advertising or anything, full php, front page, mysql, 500 Meg disk space. I do charge $500 per month if you want upload privileges, a login and in your case the necessary monthly application of Troll-Be-Gone -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] WEB HOST NEEDED!!!!!
http://www.futurepathsnz.com/webhosting.html Cheap hosting. http://www.aoteahosting.com/ Moew Cheap hosting Free isn't the word. Free is for scabs - Original Message - From: Denis 'Alpheus' Cahuk [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, June 25, 2003 12:09 AM Subject: [PHP] WEB HOST NEEDED! Like I said, I need a web host. It MUST support PHP, mySQl and sending emails, optional. It shouldn't have any ads (pop-ups, ads), but I will allow if it has watermarks (SMALL! watermarks). It should be TOTALY FREE! -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] WEB HOST NEEDED!!!!!
he should ask for a pony too while he's at it... Jay Blanchard [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message news:[EMAIL PROTECTED] [snip] Like I said, I need a web host. It MUST support PHP, mySQl and sending emails, optional. It shouldn't have any ads (pop-ups, ads), but I will allow if it has watermarks (SMALL! watermarks). It should be TOTALY FREE! [/snip] Denis I am going to make a small suggestion, please Google for this information. Apparently many of the answers that have been given to you on this list are not acceptable. Do some research. There is no such thing as totally free. HTH! Jay -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
RE: [PHP] WEB HOST NEEDED!!!!!
SO let me get this straight, IF I pay 1000.00 a month, you'll throw the pony in? Sweet, where do I sign up!! PS, if for some unknown reason the credit card I enter doesn't work it's because I got it for free. :) -Original Message- From: erythros [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, June 24, 2003 5:44 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [PHP] WEB HOST NEEDED! he should ask for a pony too while he's at it... Jay Blanchard [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message news:[EMAIL PROTECTED] [snip] Like I said, I need a web host. It MUST support PHP, mySQl and sending emails, optional. It shouldn't have any ads (pop-ups, ads), but I will allow if it has watermarks (SMALL! watermarks). It should be TOTALY FREE! [/snip] Denis I am going to make a small suggestion, please Google for this information. Apparently many of the answers that have been given to you on this list are not acceptable. Do some research. There is no such thing as totally free. HTH! Jay -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] I'm in need of a PHP web host recommendation
I would recommend http://futurequest.net Good, reliable, and very skilled technical people, who know linux and web-hosting inside out. John Kenyon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... Jason Reid wrote: I suggest paying a visit to www.webhostingtalk.com and search the forums... theres tons of information on the large, and small hosts that might help. I use www.phpwebhosting.com and have been happy with them so far. $10 a month, but they are generous (and flexible, at least so they say) about space and bandwidth. jck -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] I'm in need of a PHP web host recommendation
I think this thread has gone on a while but ... I personally recommend pair (http://www.pair.net) to everyone who asks. They have an excellent infrastructure, excellent support, excellent hosting plans and they have been doing web hosting for years (and making a profit at it). They own their hardware and Internet connections so they can resolve issues much faster than someone who is colocated. pair also lets you host multiple domains on one hosting account which saves you money if you have multiple domains. Additionally I would also recommend fidelityhost.com, they also allow multiple domains have good network speeds and excellent customer service. Jason On Sun, 2002-11-17 at 01:47, John Lim wrote: I would recommend http://futurequest.net Good, reliable, and very skilled technical people, who know linux and web-hosting inside out. John Kenyon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... Jason Reid wrote: I suggest paying a visit to www.webhostingtalk.com and search the forums... theres tons of information on the large, and small hosts that might help. I use www.phpwebhosting.com and have been happy with them so far. $10 a month, but they are generous (and flexible, at least so they say) about space and bandwidth. jck -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
RE: [PHP] I'm in need of a PHP web host recommendation
ProHosters http://www.prohosters.com Good plans, Good Price, Great Support. I recommend the semi dedicated plans. Cheers Brendon -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] I'm in need of a PHP web host recommendation
I suggest paying a visit to www.webhostingtalk.com and search the forums... theres tons of information on the large, and small hosts that might help. Jason Reid [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- AC Host Canada www.achost.ca OrangeHairedBoy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... Seems a bit expensive though...$7.95/month for 5megs and 1 email. You could try your-site.com which is $5.00/month for 50megs and 25 email, etc... Or, look at CIHOST.com - the folks I use. Their cheapest unix deal is ~ $15/month for 100megs, 25+email, mysql, etc...mega fast connection too... One thing I like about them is their policy is to never use more than 33% of their bandwidth...just in case...site never goes down...i'm on a trip... Lewis Edward Peloke [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... http://www.ht-tech.net is who I use, VERY GOOD! Just tell them I sent you. Eddie -Original Message- From: Jon Haworth [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, November 15, 2002 11:49 AM To: 'Phil Schwarzmann'; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [PHP] I'm in need of a PHP web host recommendation Hi Phil, would like to hear some recommendations of some good companies that host PHP/MySQL and also JSP. http://34sp.com/ are great if you don't mind .uk-based hosting. I've heard good things about http://oneandone.co.uk/ but haven't used them myself. At the other end of the scale, you should stay *well* away from http://zenithtech.com/ - they're without a doubt the worst host I've ever used. Cheers Jon -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] I'm in need of a PHP web host recommendation
Jason Reid wrote: I suggest paying a visit to www.webhostingtalk.com and search the forums... theres tons of information on the large, and small hosts that might help. I use www.phpwebhosting.com and have been happy with them so far. $10 a month, but they are generous (and flexible, at least so they say) about space and bandwidth. jck -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
[PHP] I'm in need of a PHP web host recommendation
I am quite unhappy with my current web host provider (www.infinitehost.com http://www.infinitehost.com/ ) and would like to hear some recommendations of some good companies that host PHP/MySQL and also JSP. I'm more than happy to shell out a few extra bucks to get some good service. Currently I pay $25/month for 100MB of space. Infinitehost is a just a mom-and-pop hosting company. They'll take up for 4-5 days to respond to one e-mail, my site is down frequently and they haven't lived up to their guarantees. I'm sick and tired of it. Thanks so much for your recommendations!!
RE: [PHP] I'm in need of a PHP web host recommendation
Hi Phil, would like to hear some recommendations of some good companies that host PHP/MySQL and also JSP. http://34sp.com/ are great if you don't mind .uk-based hosting. I've heard good things about http://oneandone.co.uk/ but haven't used them myself. At the other end of the scale, you should stay *well* away from http://zenithtech.com/ - they're without a doubt the worst host I've ever used. Cheers Jon -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
RE: [PHP] I'm in need of a PHP web host recommendation
http://www.ht-tech.net is who I use, VERY GOOD! Just tell them I sent you. Eddie -Original Message- From: Jon Haworth [mailto:jhaworth;witanjardine.co.uk] Sent: Friday, November 15, 2002 11:49 AM To: 'Phil Schwarzmann'; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [PHP] I'm in need of a PHP web host recommendation Hi Phil, would like to hear some recommendations of some good companies that host PHP/MySQL and also JSP. http://34sp.com/ are great if you don't mind .uk-based hosting. I've heard good things about http://oneandone.co.uk/ but haven't used them myself. At the other end of the scale, you should stay *well* away from http://zenithtech.com/ - they're without a doubt the worst host I've ever used. Cheers Jon -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] I'm in need of a PHP web host recommendation
Seems a bit expensive though...$7.95/month for 5megs and 1 email. You could try your-site.com which is $5.00/month for 50megs and 25 email, etc... Or, look at CIHOST.com - the folks I use. Their cheapest unix deal is ~ $15/month for 100megs, 25+email, mysql, etc...mega fast connection too... One thing I like about them is their policy is to never use more than 33% of their bandwidth...just in case...site never goes down...i'm on a trip... Lewis Edward Peloke [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... http://www.ht-tech.net is who I use, VERY GOOD! Just tell them I sent you. Eddie -Original Message- From: Jon Haworth [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, November 15, 2002 11:49 AM To: 'Phil Schwarzmann'; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [PHP] I'm in need of a PHP web host recommendation Hi Phil, would like to hear some recommendations of some good companies that host PHP/MySQL and also JSP. http://34sp.com/ are great if you don't mind .uk-based hosting. I've heard good things about http://oneandone.co.uk/ but haven't used them myself. At the other end of the scale, you should stay *well* away from http://zenithtech.com/ - they're without a doubt the worst host I've ever used. Cheers Jon -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
[PHP] Web host withdraws support for PHP extensions - supposed secuity risks
My Web hosting company has just withdrawn (with no notice) support for PHP extensions on the grounds they represent security risks and they don't wish to spend time and effort in evaluating and compensating for those risks. I'd welcome views on how reasonable this is. The extension I'm mainly concerned about is GD, which I rely on for interactive mapping functionality. I find it hard to see how this is a security risk, but I'm no expert and prepared to be enlightened. Many thanks Alan Hale --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.381 / Virus Database: 214 - Release Date: 02/08/2002 -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] Web host withdraws support for PHP extensions - supposedsecuity risks
It's not, your provider is simply lazy. -Rasmus On Tue, 13 Aug 2002, Alan Hale wrote: My Web hosting company has just withdrawn (with no notice) support for PHP extensions on the grounds they represent security risks and they don't wish to spend time and effort in evaluating and compensating for those risks. I'd welcome views on how reasonable this is. The extension I'm mainly concerned about is GD, which I rely on for interactive mapping functionality. I find it hard to see how this is a security risk, but I'm no expert and prepared to be enlightened. Many thanks Alan Hale --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.381 / Virus Database: 214 - Release Date: 02/08/2002 -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] Web host withdraws support for PHP extensions - supposed secuity risks
Alan -- ...and then Alan Hale said... % % My Web hosting company has just withdrawn (with no notice) support for PHP % extensions on the grounds they represent security risks and they don't wish % to spend time and effort in evaluating and compensating for those risks. That, and particularly the no notice part, sure sounds lame. % % I'd welcome views on how reasonable this is. Hmmm... Is it a risk? Well, theoretically everything is a risk; they might as well just shut down their servers now since they don't want to compensate for risks. And anything can be buggy, too, so they'd better wipe those disks clean of any nasty utilities, servers, or operating systems. I guess whether or not it's reasonable depends on what they want their business to do. If they want to serve FrontPage web clients and perhaps a little bit of POP3 email, they don't need php. They don't need apache for that matter, either, since it's all configurable and dangerous and everything. HTH HAND :-D -- David T-G * It's easier to fight for one's principles (play) [EMAIL PROTECTED] * than to live up to them. -- fortune cookie (work) [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.justpickone.org/davidtg/Shpx gur Pbzzhavpngvbaf Qrprapl Npg! msg75397/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [PHP] Web host withdraws support for PHP extensions - supposed secuity risks
On Tue, Aug 13, 2002 at 10:10:45PM +0100, Alan Hale wrote: My Web hosting company has just withdrawn (with no notice) support for PHP extensions on the grounds they represent security risks and they don't wish to spend time and effort in evaluating and compensating for those risks. I'd welcome views on how reasonable this is. The extension I'm mainly concerned about is GD, which I rely on for interactive mapping functionality. I find it hard to see how this is a security risk, but I'm no expert and prepared to be enlightened. I could host you if interested. Check http://www.nk.ca . Many thanks Alan Hale --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.381 / Virus Database: 214 - Release Date: 02/08/2002 -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php -- Member - Liberal International On 11 Sept 2001 the WORLD was violated. This is [EMAIL PROTECTED] Ici [EMAIL PROTECTED] Society MUST be saved! Extremists must dissolve. Beware of defining as intelligent only those who share your opinions -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] What would you want in a PHP web host?
- Original Message - From: Ryan Fischer [EMAIL PROTECTED] Are hosting companies reluctant to give you more access rights? Usually, and that really sucks, because I've found myself having to set up my own pseudo-server on my computer, with PHP4, Apache, and MySQL, just to develop, because the hosts I've found are very reluctant to either upgrade from PHP, or build PHP with the necessary extensions I need. IMO, PHP4 on web hosts should always be compiles with *all* options, so there will be no issue there. And it should always be upgraded to the newest stable version within a week of its release. This may be asking a lot, but people should get what they pay for, right? I'm in the same boat but fortunately I've got a great web host who would give me access to set up my own install. Is this possible? Any relavent documentation anywhere? Thanks Joel -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To contact the list administrators, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [PHP] What would you want in a PHP web host?
I am currently working with a hosting company that is striving to attain everything you all have mentioned. Check out http://www.eaccounts.net/ref/jp52950052/referer=emaillink I do the Beta testing for them and have all of my sites hosted there. If there is something missing, let me know and I'll bring it up to them. Jeff Pearson -Original Message- From: Richard Baskett [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, August 01, 2001 6:00 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [PHP] What would you want in a PHP web host? Please tell me what host you use!! I cant even seem to get the host I am going through to upgrade php. They'll do it when they feel like is pretty much the response I get. Other host responses: We don't support php or mysql Sometime in the future, but currently no support, You're the only person that has requested it, so until more demand, we're not going to support it Frustrating, frustrating, frustrating, especially when I feel like it's the wave of the future. A host that provides everything you've specified... is to die for :) So if you have a list... please do tell! :) Rick [this is long] on 8/1/01 1:06 AM, Derek Del Conte at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have been developing PHP for a while now, and I am wondering how other developers find their PHP hosting company. So far this has not been an issue for me because I am always in full control of my servers (well, as much control as possible with any web server :), but recently we have begun to host other PHP sites. my background is networking. i've built and maintained a number of increasingly complex networks over the years and at times have been intimately involved in the customer support piece. i have had many jobs in the customer support area outside of technology too. now i write and host php apps. We want to make sure that we are providing appropriate support to our PHP developers. I see too many hosting companies saying that they support PHP, but not having anyone familiar with PHP on hand. We want to have actual support, a developer to call when you have a PHP issue. do you _really_ want to pay someone 24x7x365 to maintain a php help line? the best coding happens outside the 9-5 window. the way i see it, as a php hosting site, your job is to keep the servers up and running, 24x7x365, bug-free and up-to-date. php support is for software consultants (which isn't to say that you can't do both) folks who need hosting want realiable hosting. What do you think a medium sized hosting company could do to give you (the developer) better service and support? honesty, reliability, communication, response, bandwidth. Is access to professional PHP developers useful when an issue arises? i doubt it, but imagine you could come up with a business model for providing php development support. probably long term stuff. maybe write and maintain an application for someone, or possibly training... i would think of hosting and consulting as separate symbiotic businesses. you'll get some referral business and a little cross-over, but don't expect most hosting customers to want support or for folks who've used you to consult on a project to host their app with you. Are hosting companies reluctant to give you more access rights? if they say 'no', does their reason atleast seem reasonable? are they willing to think about it and get back to you? do they say 'yes' when they should be saying 'yes'? Are they willing to re-compile their PHP build to add other options? as someone else has said, all options. php hosting should be php hosting. caveat--if there are some options that most folks would reasonably call 'optional' or 'dangerous', these shouldn't be expected. i am pretty new at programming and php, so i have no idea if things like this exist. i personally only compile in the options i use. How long do requested changes to the server take? unreasonable delays are unacceptable. i mean, if you can get it done, do it. these are our customers. they are giving us money :) you (or your server dude(ette)) should be as excited as your customer is for the new features. you should be saying whoa, i can't believe that's not in there. hold on... ... ... ok, try it now. it works? cool, have a good one. click :) (obviously, don't do anything to your box you don't understand, and security, security, security, but you get the picture) What other suggestions do you have for improving the relationship between the server administrator and the PHP developer? do the right thing! i've been on both sides of this (positive and negative :) tell your customers everything you know. make it easy for them to obtain any and all reasonable information 24 hours a day. anticipate customer needs. constantly re-evaluate all of your policies and let your customers
Re: [PHP] What would you want in a PHP web host?
on 8/1/01 11:22 PM, Richard Lynch at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: caveat--if there are some options that most folks would reasonably call 'optional' or 'dangerous', these shouldn't be expected. i am pretty new at programming and php, so i have no idea if things like this exist. i personally only compile in the options i use. There are like 107 PHP third-party extensions. i was really only talking about the features and packages that come with the php distribution (mysql, snmp, gd, imap, etc) i may have misunderstood the question. A couple are pretty new/raw, a couple are pretty defunct, and some are just so damn esoteric or have such a small user-base as to be pointless to install unless you really know a customer wants it... Anticipating what customers want can be tricky, though... :) You can now compile PHP and later on add in PHP Extension Modules which is cool... I've done it with GD once, but it doesn't seem stable, or maybe I'm doing something funky in the PHP code, as it displays one image only 20% (ish) of the time. I'll add GD for real later, but 20% is fine for the proof-of-concept I'm working on right now. Anyway, you may be able to add in new PHP extensions without re-compiling everything, but you'll need to check up on the stability issue. this is cool to know, thanks. -- mike cullerton -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To contact the list administrators, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [PHP] What would you want in a PHP web host?
OK, this bugs me. Jeff -- you're obviously getting a kickback for any business you refer to them -- why not mention that in your email so we all know you have some financial interest in the company? --kurt -Original Message- From: Jeff Pearson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, August 02, 2001 9:00 AM To: Richard Baskett; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [PHP] What would you want in a PHP web host? I am currently working with a hosting company that is striving to attain everything you all have mentioned. Check out http://www.eaccounts.net/ref/jp52950052/referer=emaillink I do the Beta testing for them and have all of my sites hosted there. If there is something missing, let me know and I'll bring it up to them. Jeff Pearson -Original Message- From: Richard Baskett [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, August 01, 2001 6:00 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [PHP] What would you want in a PHP web host? Please tell me what host you use!! I cant even seem to get the host I am going through to upgrade php. They'll do it when they feel like is pretty much the response I get. Other host responses: We don't support php or mysql Sometime in the future, but currently no support, You're the only person that has requested it, so until more demand, we're not going to support it Frustrating, frustrating, frustrating, especially when I feel like it's the wave of the future. A host that provides everything you've specified... is to die for :) So if you have a list... please do tell! :) Rick [this is long] on 8/1/01 1:06 AM, Derek Del Conte at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have been developing PHP for a while now, and I am wondering how other developers find their PHP hosting company. So far this has not been an issue for me because I am always in full control of my servers (well, as much control as possible with any web server :), but recently we have begun to host other PHP sites. my background is networking. i've built and maintained a number of increasingly complex networks over the years and at times have been intimately involved in the customer support piece. i have had many jobs in the customer support area outside of technology too. now i write and host php apps. We want to make sure that we are providing appropriate support to our PHP developers. I see too many hosting companies saying that they support PHP, but not having anyone familiar with PHP on hand. We want to have actual support, a developer to call when you have a PHP issue. do you _really_ want to pay someone 24x7x365 to maintain a php help line? the best coding happens outside the 9-5 window. the way i see it, as a php hosting site, your job is to keep the servers up and running, 24x7x365, bug-free and up-to-date. php support is for software consultants (which isn't to say that you can't do both) folks who need hosting want realiable hosting. What do you think a medium sized hosting company could do to give you (the developer) better service and support? honesty, reliability, communication, response, bandwidth. Is access to professional PHP developers useful when an issue arises? i doubt it, but imagine you could come up with a business model for providing php development support. probably long term stuff. maybe write and maintain an application for someone, or possibly training... i would think of hosting and consulting as separate symbiotic businesses. you'll get some referral business and a little cross-over, but don't expect most hosting customers to want support or for folks who've used you to consult on a project to host their app with you. Are hosting companies reluctant to give you more access rights? if they say 'no', does their reason atleast seem reasonable? are they willing to think about it and get back to you? do they say 'yes' when they should be saying 'yes'? Are they willing to re-compile their PHP build to add other options? as someone else has said, all options. php hosting should be php hosting. caveat--if there are some options that most folks would reasonably call 'optional' or 'dangerous', these shouldn't be expected. i am pretty new at programming and php, so i have no idea if things like this exist. i personally only compile in the options i use. How long do requested changes to the server take? unreasonable delays are unacceptable. i mean, if you can get it done, do it. these are our customers. they are giving us money :) you (or your server dude(ette)) should be as excited as your customer is for the new features. you should be saying whoa, i can't believe that's not in there. hold on... ... ... ok, try it now. it works
[PHP] What would you want in a PHP web host?
I have been developing PHP for a while now, and I am wondering how other developers find their PHP hosting company. So far this has not been an issue for me because I am always in full control of my servers (well, as much control as possible with any web server :), but recently we have begun to host other PHP sites. We want to make sure that we are providing appropriate support to our PHP developers. I see too many hosting companies saying that they support PHP, but not having anyone familiar with PHP on hand. We want to have actual support, a developer to call when you have a PHP issue. What do you think a medium sized hosting company could do to give you (the developer) better service and support? Is access to professional PHP developers useful when an issue arises? Are hosting companies reluctant to give you more access rights? Are they willing to re-compile their PHP build to add other options? How long do requested changes to the server take? What other suggestions do you have for improving the relationship between the server administrator and the PHP developer? I spent some time going through the PHP site looking at the list of hosts supporting PHP, but I didn't find any real discussion about what people want in a host (although I did find plenty of things they don't want :). I just figured that I would ask the PHP community exactly what they wanted. Thank you for any insight that you can give me. --derek Derek Del Conte [EMAIL PROTECTED] Gambit Design Internet Services 610.444.2443 610.368.9845 cellular 110 East State Street, Suite 18, Kennett Square, PA 19348 -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To contact the list administrators, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[PHP] Re: What would you want in a PHP web host?
Derek Del Conte [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote a lot that I snipped :-) Dear Derek To give you some input I can tell you about some recently experienced things in my php world... I: My homepage is running on a server which host a lot of other domains. Therefor I contacted the company to know if they had any plans about the security issues that arise when many php developers can steal anything they want from other sites on the same server. The response was that there they knew the security wasn't ok but nobody could access sensitive information (?!). a) They dont know better/Dont have a person that actually know php. Or b) They lie hopeing that I won't notice They also told me that they would not do a thing about it What I wanted was: a) An honest answer b) A promise to look into it, report back and maybe fix the problem or warn about the risk. Not just look the other way pretending that there's no problem. II: As a developer I want access to several databases - not just one. The company that hosts my site refuse to create more than one database because of the ressources (human and technical) it takes. I hope you could this. Regards Soeren Nielsen -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To contact the list administrators, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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I am not shure a php developer would need help from another php developer at the hosting company. What we need is: -Sys Admin that understand php. -Sys Admin that knows how to secure the server and be able to tell the developer what to follow in order to built secure code. If system command are disable, developers should kwnow. The developpers should know exactly their options and access rights. Then they have the choice to built around that or host elsewhere. -Time, we need fast, fast and very fast response. (2 days to create a databases is 47 hours too much!) -The ability to put some stuff out of the web server tree. (like file with passwords or secret hash string) -Honesty! I got a lot of we will look into that... or no our server was never spammed or attacked... with some company that where pure lies. py - Original Message - From: Derek Del Conte [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, August 01, 2001 3:06 AM Subject: [PHP] What would you want in a PHP web host? I have been developing PHP for a while now, and I am wondering how other developers find their PHP hosting company. So far this has not been an issue for me because I am always in full control of my servers (well, as much control as possible with any web server :), but recently we have begun to host other PHP sites. We want to make sure that we are providing appropriate support to our PHP developers. I see too many hosting companies saying that they support PHP, but not having anyone familiar with PHP on hand. We want to have actual support, a developer to call when you have a PHP issue. What do you think a medium sized hosting company could do to give you (the developer) better service and support? Is access to professional PHP developers useful when an issue arises? Are hosting companies reluctant to give you more access rights? Are they willing to re-compile their PHP build to add other options? How long do requested changes to the server take? What other suggestions do you have for improving the relationship between the server administrator and the PHP developer? I spent some time going through the PHP site looking at the list of hosts supporting PHP, but I didn't find any real discussion about what people want in a host (although I did find plenty of things they don't want :). I just figured that I would ask the PHP community exactly what they wanted. Thank you for any insight that you can give me. --derek Derek Del Conte [EMAIL PROTECTED] Gambit Design Internet Services 610.444.2443 610.368.9845 cellular 110 East State Street, Suite 18, Kennett Square, PA 19348 -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To contact the list administrators, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To contact the list administrators, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [PHP] What would you want in a PHP web host?
You wrote: What do you think a medium sized hosting company could do to give you (the developer) better service and support? Be willing to help their users in any way they can, as far as service goes. Is access to professional PHP developers useful when an issue arises? Depends on the issue. Are hosting companies reluctant to give you more access rights? Usually, and that really sucks, because I've found myself having to set up my own pseudo-server on my computer, with PHP4, Apache, and MySQL, just to develop, because the hosts I've found are very reluctant to either upgrade from PHP, or build PHP with the necessary extensions I need. IMO, PHP4 on web hosts should always be compiles with *all* options, so there will be no issue there. And it should always be upgraded to the newest stable version within a week of its release. This may be asking a lot, but people should get what they pay for, right? Are they willing to re-compile their PHP build to add other options? No. See above. How long do requested changes to the server take? Way too long. The changes requested should take place (ideally) in less than 24 hours. What other suggestions do you have for improving the relationship between the server administrator and the PHP developer? Be nice, and be available to help. I spent some time going through the PHP site looking at the list of hosts supporting PHP, but I didn't find any real discussion about what people want in a host (although I did find plenty of things they don't want :). Because things they don't want are obviously more abundant. ;) I think people just want to be happy with the service their host provides, and that means the host needs to be prompt and attentive and ready to assist. -- -Ryan :: ICQ - 595003 :: GigaBoard - http://www.gigaboard.net/ -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To contact the list administrators, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [PHP] What would you want in a PHP web host?
[this is long] on 8/1/01 1:06 AM, Derek Del Conte at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have been developing PHP for a while now, and I am wondering how other developers find their PHP hosting company. So far this has not been an issue for me because I am always in full control of my servers (well, as much control as possible with any web server :), but recently we have begun to host other PHP sites. my background is networking. i've built and maintained a number of increasingly complex networks over the years and at times have been intimately involved in the customer support piece. i have had many jobs in the customer support area outside of technology too. now i write and host php apps. We want to make sure that we are providing appropriate support to our PHP developers. I see too many hosting companies saying that they support PHP, but not having anyone familiar with PHP on hand. We want to have actual support, a developer to call when you have a PHP issue. do you _really_ want to pay someone 24x7x365 to maintain a php help line? the best coding happens outside the 9-5 window. the way i see it, as a php hosting site, your job is to keep the servers up and running, 24x7x365, bug-free and up-to-date. php support is for software consultants (which isn't to say that you can't do both) folks who need hosting want realiable hosting. What do you think a medium sized hosting company could do to give you (the developer) better service and support? honesty, reliability, communication, response, bandwidth. Is access to professional PHP developers useful when an issue arises? i doubt it, but imagine you could come up with a business model for providing php development support. probably long term stuff. maybe write and maintain an application for someone, or possibly training... i would think of hosting and consulting as separate symbiotic businesses. you'll get some referral business and a little cross-over, but don't expect most hosting customers to want support or for folks who've used you to consult on a project to host their app with you. Are hosting companies reluctant to give you more access rights? if they say 'no', does their reason atleast seem reasonable? are they willing to think about it and get back to you? do they say 'yes' when they should be saying 'yes'? Are they willing to re-compile their PHP build to add other options? as someone else has said, all options. php hosting should be php hosting. caveat--if there are some options that most folks would reasonably call 'optional' or 'dangerous', these shouldn't be expected. i am pretty new at programming and php, so i have no idea if things like this exist. i personally only compile in the options i use. How long do requested changes to the server take? unreasonable delays are unacceptable. i mean, if you can get it done, do it. these are our customers. they are giving us money :) you (or your server dude(ette)) should be as excited as your customer is for the new features. you should be saying whoa, i can't believe that's not in there. hold on... ... ... ok, try it now. it works? cool, have a good one. click :) (obviously, don't do anything to your box you don't understand, and security, security, security, but you get the picture) What other suggestions do you have for improving the relationship between the server administrator and the PHP developer? do the right thing! i've been on both sides of this (positive and negative :) tell your customers everything you know. make it easy for them to obtain any and all reasonable information 24 hours a day. anticipate customer needs. constantly re-evaluate all of your policies and let your customers know them. your business should constantly evolve to your changing customer base. when a customer makes a request for something you haven't considered, your response should be hmmm..., that's interesting. let us talk about that a little and get back to you. and then, slap yourself for not having anticipated the request, talk about it and get back to them. keep them informed. the successful enterprises i've been involved with cared about their customers, educated themselves about their endeavor and did the right thing. too many businesses make decisions for the wrong reasons--political infighting, process management, knee-jerk reaction, unmotivated employee, you name it. when a question arises, folks need to openly discuss it and come to concensus. too many folks can't admit they might not know something (or even that times have changed) and they keep doing the wrong thing. do the right thing! I spent some time going through the PHP site looking at the list of hosts supporting PHP, but I didn't find any real discussion about what people want in a host (although I did find plenty of things they don't want :). think about what you want in support from your vendors. support is support. even monkeys can be trained. it takes someone who cares to provide good support. I
Re: [PHP] What would you want in a PHP web host?
Please tell me what host you use!! I cant even seem to get the host I am going through to upgrade php. They'll do it when they feel like is pretty much the response I get. Other host responses: We don't support php or mysql Sometime in the future, but currently no support, You're the only person that has requested it, so until more demand, we're not going to support it Frustrating, frustrating, frustrating, especially when I feel like it's the wave of the future. A host that provides everything you've specified... is to die for :) So if you have a list... please do tell! :) Rick [this is long] on 8/1/01 1:06 AM, Derek Del Conte at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have been developing PHP for a while now, and I am wondering how other developers find their PHP hosting company. So far this has not been an issue for me because I am always in full control of my servers (well, as much control as possible with any web server :), but recently we have begun to host other PHP sites. my background is networking. i've built and maintained a number of increasingly complex networks over the years and at times have been intimately involved in the customer support piece. i have had many jobs in the customer support area outside of technology too. now i write and host php apps. We want to make sure that we are providing appropriate support to our PHP developers. I see too many hosting companies saying that they support PHP, but not having anyone familiar with PHP on hand. We want to have actual support, a developer to call when you have a PHP issue. do you _really_ want to pay someone 24x7x365 to maintain a php help line? the best coding happens outside the 9-5 window. the way i see it, as a php hosting site, your job is to keep the servers up and running, 24x7x365, bug-free and up-to-date. php support is for software consultants (which isn't to say that you can't do both) folks who need hosting want realiable hosting. What do you think a medium sized hosting company could do to give you (the developer) better service and support? honesty, reliability, communication, response, bandwidth. Is access to professional PHP developers useful when an issue arises? i doubt it, but imagine you could come up with a business model for providing php development support. probably long term stuff. maybe write and maintain an application for someone, or possibly training... i would think of hosting and consulting as separate symbiotic businesses. you'll get some referral business and a little cross-over, but don't expect most hosting customers to want support or for folks who've used you to consult on a project to host their app with you. Are hosting companies reluctant to give you more access rights? if they say 'no', does their reason atleast seem reasonable? are they willing to think about it and get back to you? do they say 'yes' when they should be saying 'yes'? Are they willing to re-compile their PHP build to add other options? as someone else has said, all options. php hosting should be php hosting. caveat--if there are some options that most folks would reasonably call 'optional' or 'dangerous', these shouldn't be expected. i am pretty new at programming and php, so i have no idea if things like this exist. i personally only compile in the options i use. How long do requested changes to the server take? unreasonable delays are unacceptable. i mean, if you can get it done, do it. these are our customers. they are giving us money :) you (or your server dude(ette)) should be as excited as your customer is for the new features. you should be saying whoa, i can't believe that's not in there. hold on... ... ... ok, try it now. it works? cool, have a good one. click :) (obviously, don't do anything to your box you don't understand, and security, security, security, but you get the picture) What other suggestions do you have for improving the relationship between the server administrator and the PHP developer? do the right thing! i've been on both sides of this (positive and negative :) tell your customers everything you know. make it easy for them to obtain any and all reasonable information 24 hours a day. anticipate customer needs. constantly re-evaluate all of your policies and let your customers know them. your business should constantly evolve to your changing customer base. when a customer makes a request for something you haven't considered, your response should be hmmm..., that's interesting. let us talk about that a little and get back to you. and then, slap yourself for not having anticipated the request, talk about it and get back to them. keep them informed. the successful enterprises i've been involved with cared about their customers, educated themselves about their endeavor and did the right thing. too many businesses make decisions for the wrong reasons--political infighting, process
Re: [PHP] What would you want in a PHP web host?
I have been developing PHP for a while now, and I am wondering how other developers find their PHP hosting company. Get recommendations from other users. Also, be ready to move at any time. I lucked out on my second ISP, and was (mostly) happy for several years. Actually, I didn't know how good I had it, until... [darkening sky and thunder in the distance] They got bought out. The nightmare begins... I'll skip all the sordid details, as you don't have several hours to listen to it all. But I've spent uncountable man-hours trying to get the old ISP to keep my sites up-and-running while spending uncountable man-hours moving them to another server. I went from maintenance mode on a dozen sites to panic mode on the old server, and re-install and test everything on the new server. On the bright side: I trust the new host implicitly, and I *KNOW* he's not looking to sell out, and is in this for the long haul of providing good service at a fair price. We want to make sure that we are providing appropriate support to our PHP developers. I see too many hosting companies saying that they support PHP, but not having anyone familiar with PHP on hand. We want to have actual support, a developer to call when you have a PHP issue. That's really more than required -- I need a SysAdmin who understands PHP and whatever extensions they promised well enough to know how to keep it running. I don't need a PHP developer to fix my code. Counter-example: The bad ISP above literally called me at one point, and he said he knew Oracle, but not PostgreSQL (which was dead on their server at the time) and asked if I'd be willing to help. Sure, I said. The tech then began reading to me from the first page of the PostgreSQL manual... [This is a small scene in the nightmare I promised not to go into... Sorry.] What do you think a medium sized hosting company could do to give you (the developer) better service and support? Clearly list which extensions you have enabled, and at what versions. Clearly state your upgrade policy up-front for PHP *and* all extensions. MAINTAIN IT! If you lose your MySQL guru, then find another one fast, or phase out MySQL support Is access to professional PHP developers useful when an issue arises? No, that's what the mailing list is for. I want access to a SysAdmin, not a PHP developer. Are hosting companies reluctant to give you more access rights? Actually, the original good ISP gave me compiler access, as I was playing with gnupg in beta status, and they figured that was better than re-compiling for me every couple days :-) They also ran PHP as a CGI with suExec because their other customers didn't need it, and they weren't willing to install it and increase httpd risks just for me. This was a pain sometimes, but they were always willing to help me work around it. Alas, they also gave CGI access to some idiots who continually ran run-away scripts (Perl probably) that would bring the server to its knees. Sigh. Oh well, guess you can't have everything. The bad ISP wouldn't even send me a list of the files in my PostgreSQL directories. Had they done that, I coulda told them it was puking because /var was full because a bunch of long-dead temp tables were left over from queries that were just too big and crashed the server. We could have wiped those out and saved uncountable hours of pain. I might even still be their customer if they'd done one little thing different on day one. It's always a judgement call whom to trust how much. Either your ISP is good at it, and everybody's happy, or they've got an inflexible policy in place, and most people are happy, or they suck, and nobody's happy. Are they willing to re-compile their PHP build to add other options? Probably not. How long do requested changes to the server take? Most should be done within 24 hours. Tricky ones should get a non-automated response as to why they aren't done, and some sort of negotiation/counter-offer of how to solve the problem. What other suggestions do you have for improving the relationship between the server administrator and the PHP developer? Build a tracking db to issue ticket numbers for each problem, and use it religiously. Respond with a live answer that it's fixed, or an ETA, or establishes a dialog for how to resolve within 24 hours. If you *REALLY* want to provide top-notch PHP services, consider using vmware and giving each customer root. Or give each customer their own pool of httpd processes to configure they way they want. You won't be able to squeeze as many customers on the box, but they'll be happy and probably willing to pay a little more. -- WARNING [EMAIL PROTECTED] address is an endangered species -- Use [EMAIL PROTECTED] Wanna help me out? Like Music? Buy a CD: http://l-i-e.com/artists.htm Volunteer a little time: http://chatmusic.com/volunteer.htm -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL
[PHP] Re: What would you want in a PHP web host?
I must say that we have been very lucky... For the past 5 years, we have been with pair Networks (pair.com) and have had no serious problems or complaints with them. Although, it _would_ be nice to have the ability to ask a person (developer) a question and get a response quite soon, but that is pretty much for newbies, as a developer or like anyone else here, uses mailing lists and newsgroups. If you can provide excellent service to your customers from the beginning and continue as they pay you more and you fork out more, there's no doubt you will have any trouble doing as you wish for and with your clients. But, of course, as any business person knows-- there's ALWAYS going to be an unhappy soul that tries to ruin it for you. --- -- MD Creations - Matt Rogers - Web Design Dept. - [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To contact the list administrators, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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caveat--if there are some options that most folks would reasonably call 'optional' or 'dangerous', these shouldn't be expected. i am pretty new at programming and php, so i have no idea if things like this exist. i personally only compile in the options i use. There are like 107 PHP third-party extensions. A couple are pretty new/raw, a couple are pretty defunct, and some are just so damn esoteric or have such a small user-base as to be pointless to install unless you really know a customer wants it... Anticipating what customers want can be tricky, though... You can now compile PHP and later on add in PHP Extension Modules which is cool... I've done it with GD once, but it doesn't seem stable, or maybe I'm doing something funky in the PHP code, as it displays one image only 20% (ish) of the time. I'll add GD for real later, but 20% is fine for the proof-of-concept I'm working on right now. Anyway, you may be able to add in new PHP extensions without re-compiling everything, but you'll need to check up on the stability issue. -- WARNING [EMAIL PROTECTED] address is an endangered species -- Use [EMAIL PROTECTED] Wanna help me out? Like Music? Buy a CD: http://l-i-e.com/artists.htm Volunteer a little time: http://chatmusic.com/volunteer.htm -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To contact the list administrators, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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I need a web host with myslq and PHP. Also i would be good if it have a STMP server to! Please just reply to there posts! -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To contact the list administrators, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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We offer hosting with PHP,MySQL, and SMTP. www.pepiedesigns.com __John Monfort_ _+---+_ P E P I E D E S I G N S www.pepiedesigns.com The world is waiting, are you ready? -+___+- On Wed, 16 May 2001, Manesh Manickam wrote: I need a web host with myslq and PHP. Also i would be good if it have a STMP server to! Please just reply to there posts! -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To contact the list administrators, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To contact the list administrators, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]