RE: [PHP] asp.net vs. php

2004-06-07 Thread Jay Blanchard
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There is no comparison

PHP is a language - asp.net is a set of methodologies applicable to
several languages

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Re[2]: [PHP] asp.net vs. php

2004-06-06 Thread Richard Davey
Hello Chris,

Sunday, June 6, 2004, 5:27:31 PM, you wrote:

c> and you'll find that there is not a comprehensive comparison. Don't be so
c> quick to assume that someone hasn't done their homework. I've the spent the
c> past 6 months learning .NET and searching for comprehensive discussions of
c> how it compares to other web development approaches. I can assure you that
c> there are very few comprehensive ROI or technical comparisons being made.

c> There are, however, plenty of .02 about m$ and open source.

It's a bit of a non-starter from the outset though. The .NET framework
is vast and extends well beyond the confines that PHP operates within.
To compare them on a single web level would be relatively pointless,
not to say misleading for both parties concerned. I don't believe
there is anything that compares to the .NET framework as a whole, other
than maybe Java. So if you want accurate comparisons that would be
the place to look. Anyone who thinks ASP.NET is even remotely similar
to ASP just doesn't understand what .NET is about. Yet comparing PHP
with ASP is a perfectly valid exercise in terms of cost benefits, ROI,
development times, etc.

These are, however, just my .02 worth - though I have used the .NET
framework (specifically C#) commercially for nearly 4 years (and PHP
for considerably longer than that).

Best regards,

Richard Davey
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[PHP] religius war: was:Re: [PHP] asp.net vs. php

2004-06-06 Thread raditha dissanayake
chris wrote:
and you'll find that there is not a comprehensive comparison. Don't be so
quick to assume that someone hasn't done their homework. I've the spent the
past 6 months learning .NET and searching for comprehensive discussions of
how it compares to other web development approaches. I can assure you that
there are very few comprehensive ROI or technical comparisons being made. 
 

You have in turn assumed that i am not familiar with .net, my first 
encounter was more than 2 years ago.
In any case it's futile  talking about aps.net vs php in this list for 
the obvious reason that 99% of the people on this list are PHP enthusiasts.

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RE: [PHP] asp.net vs. php

2004-06-06 Thread chris
and you'll find that there is not a comprehensive comparison. Don't be so
quick to assume that someone hasn't done their homework. I've the spent the
past 6 months learning .NET and searching for comprehensive discussions of
how it compares to other web development approaches. I can assure you that
there are very few comprehensive ROI or technical comparisons being made. 

There are, however, plenty of .02 about m$ and open source.

-Original Message-
From: raditha dissanayake [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Sunday, June 06, 2004 9:12 AM
Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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chris wrote:

>Curt, I know  you're well meaning, but ASP.old has nothing to do with 
>ASP.NET, so much of what  you provided is irrelevant.
>
Curt's point is very valid none the less.  just replace asp with asp.net 
when searching.

>
>* Thus wrote Kathleen Ballard ([EMAIL PROTECTED]):
>  
>
>>I have been asked to make a fact based comparison of
>>the pros and cons of asp.net and php.  I am not trying
>>to start a war and apologize if this is too off topic,
>>but I know make of the list members work in other
>>coding languages.
>>
>>
>
>Here is a 191 documents related to php vs. asp:
>
>http://groups.google.com/groups?q=asp+vs+php&meta=group%3Dphp.general
>
>  
>


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Re: [PHP] asp.net vs. php

2004-06-06 Thread raditha dissanayake
chris wrote:
Curt, I know  you're well meaning, but ASP.old has nothing to do with
ASP.NET, so much of what  you provided is irrelevant.
Curt's point is very valid none the less.  just replace asp with asp.net 
when searching.

* Thus wrote Kathleen Ballard ([EMAIL PROTECTED]):
 

I have been asked to make a fact based comparison of
the pros and cons of asp.net and php.  I am not trying
to start a war and apologize if this is too off topic,
but I know make of the list members work in other
coding languages.
   

Here is a 191 documents related to php vs. asp:
http://groups.google.com/groups?q=asp+vs+php&meta=group%3Dphp.general
 


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RE: [PHP] asp.net vs. php

2004-06-06 Thread chris
Curt, I know  you're well meaning, but ASP.old has nothing to do with
ASP.NET, so much of what  you provided is irrelevant. I just finished a
largish .NET project and will follow with a response to Kathleen's question.

-chris

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From: Curt Zirzow [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Sunday, June 06, 2004 7:51 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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* Thus wrote Kathleen Ballard ([EMAIL PROTECTED]):
> I have been asked to make a fact based comparison of
> the pros and cons of asp.net and php.  I am not trying
> to start a war and apologize if this is too off topic,
> but I know make of the list members work in other
> coding languages.

Here is a 191 documents related to php vs. asp:

http://groups.google.com/groups?q=asp+vs+php&meta=group%3Dphp.general

GGIYF


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Re: [PHP] asp.net vs. php

2004-06-06 Thread Aidan Lister
Hehe Curt, point made :)

"Curt Zirzow" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
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> * Thus wrote Kathleen Ballard ([EMAIL PROTECTED]):
> > I have been asked to make a fact based comparison of
> > the pros and cons of asp.net and php.  I am not trying
> > to start a war and apologize if this is too off topic,
> > but I know make of the list members work in other
> > coding languages.
>
> Here is a 191 documents related to php vs. asp:
>
> http://groups.google.com/groups?q=asp+vs+php&meta=group%3Dphp.general
>
> GGIYF
>
>
> Curt
> -- 
> "I used to think I was indecisive, but now I'm not so sure."

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Re: [PHP] asp.net vs. php

2004-06-06 Thread Curt Zirzow
* Thus wrote Kathleen Ballard ([EMAIL PROTECTED]):
> I have been asked to make a fact based comparison of
> the pros and cons of asp.net and php.  I am not trying
> to start a war and apologize if this is too off topic,
> but I know make of the list members work in other
> coding languages.

Here is a 191 documents related to php vs. asp:

http://groups.google.com/groups?q=asp+vs+php&meta=group%3Dphp.general

GGIYF


Curt
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[PHP] asp.net vs. php

2004-06-06 Thread Kathleen Ballard
I have been asked to make a fact based comparison of
the pros and cons of asp.net and php.  I am not trying
to start a war and apologize if this is too off topic,
but I know make of the list members work in other
coding languages.

Three areas of concern are robustness, scalability and
development time.  Also important is the availability
of existing code (goes to development time).  I have
experience in asp and php, but have only read about
.net.  One big difference seems to be that .net is
event driven vs. php which is increasingly oo.

I am a bit concerned that I will be too biased in my
judgement, because if immediate development time is
considered, I will have to pass and lose a potentially
good client.  I am sure I can get up to speed quickly
in .net, but not quickly enough to answer immediate
needs.

Any experiences, links to online articles and
discussions would be welcome.

Kathleen

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