Re: [PHP] logic for grabbing what we need from user-input addresses for AVS?
On Sun, 2008-10-19 at 11:26 -0400, Robert Cummings wrote: > On Sun, 2008-10-19 at 10:03 +0100, Ashley Sheridan wrote: > > On Sun, 2008-10-19 at 01:10 -0400, Robert Cummings wrote: > > > On Sat, 2008-10-18 at 22:56 -0600, Govinda wrote: > > > > Hi all > > > > > > > > This is not exactly PHP, but an issue that we have to work out in code > > > > (whatever we use) - > > > > I am working on a shopping cart site which will have orders from any > > > > country. > > > > > > > > To cut down on fraudulent orders, our cc processor (whatever we call > > > > them), to enable "Address Verification System (AVS)", accepts a var/ > > > > value which is "The numeric portion of the street address". It is > > > > "Required for AVS". Now to get this from what the user input, I can: > > > > > > > > - just read the *numeric* characters off the front of the first (of 2) > > > > address text inputs, stopping grabbing them once I reach any non- > > > > numeric char., or I could > > > > - get *any* numeric chars input in that text area and concatenate > > > > them all together (if there is more than one continuous run of them), or > > > > - get *any* numeric chars input in *either* of the address text areas > > > > and concatenate that all together (if there is more than one > > > > continuous run of them), or > > > > - (what are the other possibilities?) > > > > > > > > I am asking you guys/gals using AVS: what are they looking for? The > > > > docs make this clear that they want: "The numeric portion of the > > > > street address", but just because I can't think of addresses that > > > > don't match a pattern I am thinking of does not mean they don't exist > > > > or are not valid. And how should the logic of my algorithm be written > > > > if it was just for USA addresses? ... and more importantly - if I am > > > > writing it to handle addresses from any country? > > > > > > > > Thanks for any insight/logic based on experience, ;-) > > > > > > AVS systems I've used don't ask for the street number. They ask for the > > > entire address and they do the matching for me and return a code > > > indicating what portions matched. For one client in particular an AVS > > > fail allows the order to go through, but it is flagged as peculiar and > > > requires someone to manually reject or allow the order to be fulfilled. > > > This was necessary since a lot of AVS failures were encountered for > > > regular clients. > > > > > > If I had to make a choice given your system, I think I would just grab > > > the integer value of the first address line. No concatenation, and no > > > fussing with a second line... > > > > > > $number = (int)$input; > > > > > > > > It does sound like a bit of a flawed system you are using though, I > > mean, some addresses have only house names, not numbers, so there would > > be no number, and what about business addresses in business centres? > > "Unit 3 of Suchandsuch Business Centre, 20-30 Somesuch Road..." How > > would you go about getting the numerical part from that? > > Is this targetted at me? Doesn't seem applicable to my own case since I > pass the entire address to the payment gateway. > > Cheers, > Rob. Not you Rob, don't be so paranoid ;) I was just saying it for Govinda's benefit, as it seems to be particular to the system he is using, and I just thought I'd point out a couple of the more obvious problems with it. Ash www.ashleysheridan.co.uk
Re: [PHP] logic for grabbing what we need from user-input addresses for AVS?
On Sun, 2008-10-19 at 10:03 +0100, Ashley Sheridan wrote: > On Sun, 2008-10-19 at 01:10 -0400, Robert Cummings wrote: > > On Sat, 2008-10-18 at 22:56 -0600, Govinda wrote: > > > Hi all > > > > > > This is not exactly PHP, but an issue that we have to work out in code > > > (whatever we use) - > > > I am working on a shopping cart site which will have orders from any > > > country. > > > > > > To cut down on fraudulent orders, our cc processor (whatever we call > > > them), to enable "Address Verification System (AVS)", accepts a var/ > > > value which is "The numeric portion of the street address". It is > > > "Required for AVS". Now to get this from what the user input, I can: > > > > > > - just read the *numeric* characters off the front of the first (of 2) > > > address text inputs, stopping grabbing them once I reach any non- > > > numeric char., or I could > > > - get *any* numeric chars input in that text area and concatenate > > > them all together (if there is more than one continuous run of them), or > > > - get *any* numeric chars input in *either* of the address text areas > > > and concatenate that all together (if there is more than one > > > continuous run of them), or > > > - (what are the other possibilities?) > > > > > > I am asking you guys/gals using AVS: what are they looking for? The > > > docs make this clear that they want: "The numeric portion of the > > > street address", but just because I can't think of addresses that > > > don't match a pattern I am thinking of does not mean they don't exist > > > or are not valid. And how should the logic of my algorithm be written > > > if it was just for USA addresses? ... and more importantly - if I am > > > writing it to handle addresses from any country? > > > > > > Thanks for any insight/logic based on experience, ;-) > > > > AVS systems I've used don't ask for the street number. They ask for the > > entire address and they do the matching for me and return a code > > indicating what portions matched. For one client in particular an AVS > > fail allows the order to go through, but it is flagged as peculiar and > > requires someone to manually reject or allow the order to be fulfilled. > > This was necessary since a lot of AVS failures were encountered for > > regular clients. > > > > If I had to make a choice given your system, I think I would just grab > > the integer value of the first address line. No concatenation, and no > > fussing with a second line... > > > > $number = (int)$input; > > > > > It does sound like a bit of a flawed system you are using though, I > mean, some addresses have only house names, not numbers, so there would > be no number, and what about business addresses in business centres? > "Unit 3 of Suchandsuch Business Centre, 20-30 Somesuch Road..." How > would you go about getting the numerical part from that? Is this targetted at me? Doesn't seem applicable to my own case since I pass the entire address to the payment gateway. Cheers, Rob. -- http://www.interjinn.com Application and Templating Framework for PHP -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] logic for grabbing what we need from user-input addresses for AVS?
On Oct 18, 2008, at 11:10 PM, Robert Cummings wrote: On Sat, 2008-10-18 at 22:56 -0600, Govinda wrote: To cut down on fraudulent orders, our cc processor (whatever we call them), to enable "Address Verification System (AVS)", ... The docs make this clear that they want: "The numeric portion of the street address", ... And how should the logic of my algorithm be written if it was just for USA addresses? ... and more importantly - if I am writing it to handle addresses from any country? AVS systems I've used don't ask for the street number. They ask for the entire address and they do the matching for me and return a code indicating what portions matched. For one client in particular an AVS fail allows the order to go through, but it is flagged as peculiar and requires someone to manually reject or allow the order to be fulfilled. This was necessary since a lot of AVS failures were encountered for regular clients. If I had to make a choice given your system, I think I would just grab the integer value of the first address line. No concatenation, and no fussing with a second line... $number = (int)$input; Cheers, Rob. -- http://www.interjinn.com Application and Templating Framework for PHP Yes, here also they want the entire billing data for different checks to be run on the card validity (like postal code check, card security code check, etc.), but for just this AVS (address) check in particular, which I am asking about, they explicitly state which part of that billing data they use: "The numeric portion of the street address" Thanks all for your replies! -Govinda -- (I have so much work that I have never bothered about my resume, personal business site, sig file.. nothing. Nor do I have any fun quote generator lined up. But since it is Sunday, and sig files seem to be tolerated well, here's one quote off the top of my head: "Now we measure power in terms of nourishing ability." -Maharishi Mahesh Yogi -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] logic for grabbing what we need from user-input addresses for AVS?
On Sun, 2008-10-19 at 01:10 -0400, Robert Cummings wrote: > On Sat, 2008-10-18 at 22:56 -0600, Govinda wrote: > > Hi all > > > > This is not exactly PHP, but an issue that we have to work out in code > > (whatever we use) - > > I am working on a shopping cart site which will have orders from any > > country. > > > > To cut down on fraudulent orders, our cc processor (whatever we call > > them), to enable "Address Verification System (AVS)", accepts a var/ > > value which is "The numeric portion of the street address". It is > > "Required for AVS". Now to get this from what the user input, I can: > > > > - just read the *numeric* characters off the front of the first (of 2) > > address text inputs, stopping grabbing them once I reach any non- > > numeric char., or I could > > - get *any* numeric chars input in that text area and concatenate > > them all together (if there is more than one continuous run of them), or > > - get *any* numeric chars input in *either* of the address text areas > > and concatenate that all together (if there is more than one > > continuous run of them), or > > - (what are the other possibilities?) > > > > I am asking you guys/gals using AVS: what are they looking for? The > > docs make this clear that they want: "The numeric portion of the > > street address", but just because I can't think of addresses that > > don't match a pattern I am thinking of does not mean they don't exist > > or are not valid. And how should the logic of my algorithm be written > > if it was just for USA addresses? ... and more importantly - if I am > > writing it to handle addresses from any country? > > > > Thanks for any insight/logic based on experience, ;-) > > AVS systems I've used don't ask for the street number. They ask for the > entire address and they do the matching for me and return a code > indicating what portions matched. For one client in particular an AVS > fail allows the order to go through, but it is flagged as peculiar and > requires someone to manually reject or allow the order to be fulfilled. > This was necessary since a lot of AVS failures were encountered for > regular clients. > > If I had to make a choice given your system, I think I would just grab > the integer value of the first address line. No concatenation, and no > fussing with a second line... > > $number = (int)$input; > > Cheers, > Rob. > -- > http://www.interjinn.com > Application and Templating Framework for PHP > > It does sound like a bit of a flawed system you are using though, I mean, some addresses have only house names, not numbers, so there would be no number, and what about business addresses in business centres? "Unit 3 of Suchandsuch Business Centre, 20-30 Somesuch Road..." How would you go about getting the numerical part from that? Ash www.ashleysheridan.co.uk -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] logic for grabbing what we need from user-input addresses for AVS?
On Sat, 2008-10-18 at 22:56 -0600, Govinda wrote: > Hi all > > This is not exactly PHP, but an issue that we have to work out in code > (whatever we use) - > I am working on a shopping cart site which will have orders from any > country. > > To cut down on fraudulent orders, our cc processor (whatever we call > them), to enable "Address Verification System (AVS)", accepts a var/ > value which is "The numeric portion of the street address". It is > "Required for AVS". Now to get this from what the user input, I can: > > - just read the *numeric* characters off the front of the first (of 2) > address text inputs, stopping grabbing them once I reach any non- > numeric char., or I could > - get *any* numeric chars input in that text area and concatenate > them all together (if there is more than one continuous run of them), or > - get *any* numeric chars input in *either* of the address text areas > and concatenate that all together (if there is more than one > continuous run of them), or > - (what are the other possibilities?) > > I am asking you guys/gals using AVS: what are they looking for? The > docs make this clear that they want: "The numeric portion of the > street address", but just because I can't think of addresses that > don't match a pattern I am thinking of does not mean they don't exist > or are not valid. And how should the logic of my algorithm be written > if it was just for USA addresses? ... and more importantly - if I am > writing it to handle addresses from any country? > > Thanks for any insight/logic based on experience, ;-) AVS systems I've used don't ask for the street number. They ask for the entire address and they do the matching for me and return a code indicating what portions matched. For one client in particular an AVS fail allows the order to go through, but it is flagged as peculiar and requires someone to manually reject or allow the order to be fulfilled. This was necessary since a lot of AVS failures were encountered for regular clients. If I had to make a choice given your system, I think I would just grab the integer value of the first address line. No concatenation, and no fussing with a second line... $number = (int)$input; Cheers, Rob. -- http://www.interjinn.com Application and Templating Framework for PHP -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] logic for grabbing what we need from user-input addresses for AVS?
AVS generally only exists for us and canada and parts of the uk, if I remember correctly. Usually they're just looking for the beginning part of the street address, not the concatenation or anything else like that. No need for apartment numbers, for example if you're just looking at avs. If you're doing a full credit card auth, though, that's a different matter. Waynn On 10/18/08, Govinda <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi all > > This is not exactly PHP, but an issue that we have to work out in code > (whatever we use) - > I am working on a shopping cart site which will have orders from any > country. > > To cut down on fraudulent orders, our cc processor (whatever we call > them), to enable "Address Verification System (AVS)", accepts a var/ > value which is "The numeric portion of the street address". It is > "Required for AVS". Now to get this from what the user input, I can: > > - just read the *numeric* characters off the front of the first (of 2) > address text inputs, stopping grabbing them once I reach any non- > numeric char., or I could > - get *any* numeric chars input in that text area and concatenate > them all together (if there is more than one continuous run of them), or > - get *any* numeric chars input in *either* of the address text areas > and concatenate that all together (if there is more than one > continuous run of them), or > - (what are the other possibilities?) > > I am asking you guys/gals using AVS: what are they looking for? The > docs make this clear that they want: "The numeric portion of the > street address", but just because I can't think of addresses that > don't match a pattern I am thinking of does not mean they don't exist > or are not valid. And how should the logic of my algorithm be written > if it was just for USA addresses? ... and more importantly - if I am > writing it to handle addresses from any country? > > Thanks for any insight/logic based on experience, ;-) > > -Govinda > > -- > PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) > To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php > > -- Sent from my mobile device -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
[PHP] logic for grabbing what we need from user-input addresses for AVS?
Hi all This is not exactly PHP, but an issue that we have to work out in code (whatever we use) - I am working on a shopping cart site which will have orders from any country. To cut down on fraudulent orders, our cc processor (whatever we call them), to enable "Address Verification System (AVS)", accepts a var/ value which is "The numeric portion of the street address". It is "Required for AVS". Now to get this from what the user input, I can: - just read the *numeric* characters off the front of the first (of 2) address text inputs, stopping grabbing them once I reach any non- numeric char., or I could - get *any* numeric chars input in that text area and concatenate them all together (if there is more than one continuous run of them), or - get *any* numeric chars input in *either* of the address text areas and concatenate that all together (if there is more than one continuous run of them), or - (what are the other possibilities?) I am asking you guys/gals using AVS: what are they looking for? The docs make this clear that they want: "The numeric portion of the street address", but just because I can't think of addresses that don't match a pattern I am thinking of does not mean they don't exist or are not valid. And how should the logic of my algorithm be written if it was just for USA addresses? ... and more importantly - if I am writing it to handle addresses from any country? Thanks for any insight/logic based on experience, ;-) -Govinda -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
