Re: [PHP] Php's future with Asp .NET?
On Thursday 16 January 2003 09:07, Dhaval Desai wrote: Hello ppl, I was just wondering what is php's future with something like Asp .Net coming up...I have read many articles by Php guys who think Asp.Net is the future. If that's the true case...is it really worth sticking to Php at all? Thanx! -Dhaval Hi, My opinon is Php future is very bright. .NET is marketing mumbo jumbo, and java is Sun's bug yard. It was pretty clear. None of them able to compete against PHP. ASP.NET is expensive, JSP is hard to config and code. Both of them slower than PHP, learning PHP easier than others. Sancar Delifisek Saran -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] Php's future with Asp .NET?
On Thursday 16 January 2003 09:07, Dhaval Desai wrote: Hello ppl, I was just wondering what is php's future with something like Asp .Net coming up...I have read many articles by Php guys who think Asp.Net is the future. If that's the true case...is it really worth sticking to Php at all? Thanx! -Dhaval Do you believe everything you hear? If so, email me, because I can get you some great deals on anything you want! Anyhow... PHP/ASP/JSP are all here to stay. PHP is moving further up and up. Overall, the best recommendation is to use what you know and what accomplishes your mission. On a semi-related note, I read something the other day that MS was dropping the .Net name from it's next round of OS releases. I guess there was supposed to be a Windows Server .Net or something, but they decided to drop it because even they admitted that _everything_ was .Net and it was getting saturated. ---John Holmes... -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] Php's future with Asp .NET?
Dhaval Desai [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote... : Hello ppl, I have read many articles by Php guys who think Asp.Net is the future. What PHP guys? If that's the true case...is it really worth sticking to Php at all? Definitely yes, unless you love paying the licenses for every single form you add to your pages :) -- Maxim Maletsky [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] Php's future with Asp .NET?
leave PHP, work with ASP .NET and let Microsoft gain more domination and say bye bye for your freedom, then let develpment go and work as a machine that does like Microsoft wants oh, i forgot, remember to submit ASP .NET bug reports to their site, to get a reply after 5 months :) Open-Source Regards, Khalid Al-Kary _ The new MSN 8: smart spam protection and 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] Php's future with Asp .NET?
Sancar Saran wrote: On Thursday 16 January 2003 09:07, Dhaval Desai wrote: Hello ppl, I was just wondering what is php's future with something like Asp .Net coming up...I have read many articles by Php guys who think Asp.Net is the future. If that's the true case...is it really worth sticking to Php at all? Thanx! -Dhaval Hi, My opinon is Php future is very bright. .NET is marketing mumbo jumbo, and java is Sun's bug yard. It was pretty clear. None of them able to compete against PHP. ASP.NET is expensive, JSP is hard to config and code. Both of them slower than PHP, learning PHP easier than others. Sancar Delifisek Saran And Moreover its FREE :) Tariq -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
[PHP] Php's future with Asp .NET?
Hello ppl, I was just wondering what is php's future with something like Asp .Net coming up...I have read many articles by Php guys who think Asp.Net is the future. If that's the true case...is it really worth sticking to Php at all? Thanx! -Dhaval _ MSN 8 with e-mail virus protection service: 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/virus -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] Php's future with Asp .NET?
IMHO, and without even comparing the feature sets, php has one distinct advantage for me: It's free. I'm pretty sure a lot of hosting companies feel the same way. Keith At 11:07 PM 1/15/2003, Dhaval Desai wrote: Hello ppl, I was just wondering what is php's future with something like Asp .Net coming up...I have read many articles by Php guys who think Asp.Net is the future. If that's the true case...is it really worth sticking to Php at all? Thanx! -Dhaval _ MSN 8 with e-mail virus protection service: 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/virus -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] Php's future with Asp .NET?
What is asp.net? It's something to catch a snake with! Quoting Dhaval Desai [EMAIL PROTECTED]: ### Hello ppl, ### ### I was just wondering what is php's future with something like Asp .Net ### coming up...I have read many articles by Php guys who think Asp.Net is the ### ### future. If that's the true case...is it really worth sticking to Php at ### all? ### ### Thanx! ### -Dhaval ### ### ### ### ### ### _ ### MSN 8 with e-mail virus protection service: 2 months FREE* ### http://join.msn.com/?page=features/virus ### ### ### -- ### PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) ### To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php ### ### -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
[PHP] php's future
Hi all in the list : I read an news that said jsp/asp.net is better than php.. They made a test that asp/php/jsp/asp.net using for loops, Jsp from 1 to 2 takes only 4 secs Asp from 1 to 2000 (not 2) takes 72 secs Php from 1 to 2000 (not 2) takes 68 secs Asp.Net from 1 to 2 takes only 3.5~3.8 secs... So is it time to learn jsp/asp+ instead of learning php ..??? I am so confused ~ I have been learning php for a while and now it said jsp/asp+ is better than it.@@
RE: [PHP] php's future
It's Chinese . I translated it maybe u cannot understand bcoz my English is not good First: jsp test for loop see below jsp:useBean id='clock' scope='page' class='dates.JspCalendar' type=dates.JspCalendar/ jsp:getProperty name=clock property=time / % int i=0; int j=0; int k=0; for(i=0;i2;i++){ for(j=0;j2;j++){ } } % jsp:useBean id='clock1' scope='page' class='dates.JspCalendar' type=dates.JspCalendar/ jsp:getProperty name=clock1 property=time / 4 secs taken Next : php test for loop see below (he didn't mention if it is php3 or php4) ? $TTime=date(Y-n-d). . date(H:i:s); echo $TTime; echo ; for($i=0;$i1000;$i++){ for($j=0;$j1000;$j++){ } } $TTime=date(Y-n-d). . date(H:i:s); echo $TTime; ? 84 secs taken ++ Third : Asp for loop test % response.write now response.write for i=0 to 2000 for j=0 to 2000 next next response.write now % 64 secs taken Last one : Asp+ for loop test % Dim intStart,intStop As DateTime Dim timeUse As TimeSpan dim Sum,i,j as int32 intStart = DateTime.Now for i=1 to 2 for j=1 to 2 Sum=Sum + i next next intStop = DateTime.Now timeUse = intStop.Subtract(intStart) Response.Write (TimeSpan.ToString(timeUse)) % 3.6 secs taken if u can read Chinese u can go http://www.webappcabaret.com/jsptw/doc/test-report.htm for more infomation. It's a website which teach jsp at all -Original Message- From: Faisal Nasim [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Sunday, September 02, 2001 7:54 PM To: nick Subject: Re: [PHP] php's future Where did you see that? Faisal At 04:28 PM 9/2/2001, you wrote: Hi all in the list : I read an news that said jsp/asp.net is better than php.. They made a test that asp/php/jsp/asp.net using for loops, Jsp from 1 to 2 takes only 4 secs Asp from 1 to 2000 (not 2) takes 72 secs Php from 1 to 2000 (not 2) takes 68 secs Asp.Net from 1 to 2 takes only 3.5~3.8 secs... So is it time to learn jsp/asp+ instead of learning php ..??? I am so confused ~ I have been learning php for a while and now it said jsp/asp+ is better than it.@@ -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To contact the list administrators, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [PHP] php's future
Haha I tried its code and it only takes 1~2 secs to run it . Wellgod damn lies -Original Message- From: nick [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Sunday, September 02, 2001 8:38 PM To: 'Faisal Nasim'; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [PHP] php's future It's Chinese . I translated it maybe u cannot understand bcoz my English is not good First: jsp test for loop see below jsp:useBean id='clock' scope='page' class='dates.JspCalendar' type=dates.JspCalendar/ jsp:getProperty name=clock property=time / % int i=0; int j=0; int k=0; for(i=0;i2;i++){ for(j=0;j2;j++){ } } % jsp:useBean id='clock1' scope='page' class='dates.JspCalendar' type=dates.JspCalendar/ jsp:getProperty name=clock1 property=time / 4 secs taken Next : php test for loop see below (he didn't mention if it is php3 or php4) ? $TTime=date(Y-n-d). . date(H:i:s); echo $TTime; echo ; for($i=0;$i1000;$i++){ for($j=0;$j1000;$j++){ } } $TTime=date(Y-n-d). . date(H:i:s); echo $TTime; ? 84 secs taken ++ Third : Asp for loop test % response.write now response.write for i=0 to 2000 for j=0 to 2000 next next response.write now % 64 secs taken Last one : Asp+ for loop test % Dim intStart,intStop As DateTime Dim timeUse As TimeSpan dim Sum,i,j as int32 intStart = DateTime.Now for i=1 to 2 for j=1 to 2 Sum=Sum + i next next intStop = DateTime.Now timeUse = intStop.Subtract(intStart) Response.Write (TimeSpan.ToString(timeUse)) % 3.6 secs taken if u can read Chinese u can go http://www.webappcabaret.com/jsptw/doc/test-report.htm for more infomation. It's a website which teach jsp at all -Original Message- From: Faisal Nasim [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Sunday, September 02, 2001 7:54 PM To: nick Subject: Re: [PHP] php's future Where did you see that? Faisal At 04:28 PM 9/2/2001, you wrote: Hi all in the list : I read an news that said jsp/asp.net is better than php.. They made a test that asp/php/jsp/asp.net using for loops, Jsp from 1 to 2 takes only 4 secs Asp from 1 to 2000 (not 2) takes 72 secs Php from 1 to 2000 (not 2) takes 68 secs Asp.Net from 1 to 2 takes only 3.5~3.8 secs... So is it time to learn jsp/asp+ instead of learning php ..??? I am so confused ~ I have been learning php for a while and now it said jsp/asp+ is better than it.@@ -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To contact the list administrators, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To contact the list administrators, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [PHP] php's future
exactly...don't believe everything you read... if you want some benchmarking results, search google...from what i've seen, php is the fastest out of any of them...certainly not jsp... jack nick wrote: Haha I tried its code and it only takes 1~2 secs to run it . Wellgod damn lies -Original Message- From: nick [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Sunday, September 02, 2001 8:38 PM To: 'Faisal Nasim'; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [PHP] php's future It's Chinese . I translated it maybe u cannot understand bcoz my English is not good First: jsp test for loop see below jsp:useBean id='clock' scope='page' class='dates.JspCalendar' type=dates.JspCalendar/ jsp:getProperty name=clock property=time / % int i=0; int j=0; int k=0; for(i=0;i2;i++){ for(j=0;j2;j++){ } } % jsp:useBean id='clock1' scope='page' class='dates.JspCalendar' type=dates.JspCalendar/ jsp:getProperty name=clock1 property=time / 4 secs taken Next : php test for loop see below (he didn't mention if it is php3 or php4) ? $TTime=date(Y-n-d). . date(H:i:s); echo $TTime; echo ; for($i=0;$i1000;$i++){ for($j=0;$j1000;$j++){ } } $TTime=date(Y-n-d). . date(H:i:s); echo $TTime; ? 84 secs taken ++ Third : Asp for loop test % response.write now response.write for i=0 to 2000 for j=0 to 2000 next next response.write now % 64 secs taken Last one : Asp+ for loop test % Dim intStart,intStop As DateTime Dim timeUse As TimeSpan dim Sum,i,j as int32 intStart = DateTime.Now for i=1 to 2 for j=1 to 2 Sum=Sum + i next next intStop = DateTime.Now timeUse = intStop.Subtract(intStart) Response.Write (TimeSpan.ToString(timeUse)) % 3.6 secs taken if u can read Chinese u can go http://www.webappcabaret.com/jsptw/doc/test-report.htm for more infomation. It's a website which teach jsp at all -Original Message- From: Faisal Nasim [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Sunday, September 02, 2001 7:54 PM To: nick Subject: Re: [PHP] php's future Where did you see that? Faisal At 04:28 PM 9/2/2001, you wrote: Hi all in the list : I read an news that said jsp/asp.net is better than php.. They made a test that asp/php/jsp/asp.net using for loops, Jsp from 1 to 2 takes only 4 secs Asp from 1 to 2000 (not 2) takes 72 secs Php from 1 to 2000 (not 2) takes 68 secs Asp.Net from 1 to 2 takes only 3.5~3.8 secs... So is it time to learn jsp/asp+ instead of learning php ..??? I am so confused ~ I have been learning php for a while and now it said jsp/asp+ is better than it.@@ -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To contact the list administrators, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To contact the list administrators, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To contact the list administrators, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [PHP] php's future
I can say.. It is really depends on your system specification and the users of it If the benchmark result is correct.. I think everybody will learn JSP rather than doing Php... Check your sources.. I guess they are not professional enough.. Have a nice day. Regards Ming Jack Sasportas wrote: You should send those people an email tell them of your specs, and you want some kind of lab results to look at because you beleive their article is full of sh*t nick wrote: Hi all in the list : I read an news that said jsp/asp.net is better than php.. They made a test that asp/php/jsp/asp.net using for loops, Jsp from 1 to 2 takes only 4 secs Asp from 1 to 2000 (not 2) takes 72 secs Php from 1 to 2000 (not 2) takes 68 secs Asp.Net from 1 to 2 takes only 3.5~3.8 secs... So is it time to learn jsp/asp+ instead of learning php ..??? I am so confused ~ I have been learning php for a while and now it said jsp/asp+ is better than it.@@ -- ___ Jack Sasportas Innovative Internet Solutions Phone 305.665.2500 Fax 305.665.2551 www.innovativeinternet.com www.web56.net -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To contact the list administrators, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [PHP] php's future
nick wrote: Haha I tried its code and it only takes 1~2 secs to run it . Wellgod damn lies Intersting. I tried the following code (which gives much more detailed time info, check it out - stolen from Andrey Hristov on php-db), and my times, on our P2-266 webserver, are just above 9 seconds. That's at 2000x2000 iterations, or 4M iterations. Of course, I'm trying to figure out when I would have a script that really needed to go through 4M iterations, and thus (like most benchmarks) this probably has no real bearing on the (or at least my) real world. ? $starttime = explode( , microtime()); for ($i=0; $i2000; $i++) { for ($j=0; $j2000; $j++) { } } $endtime=explode( , microtime()); $starttime = $starttime[1]+$starttime[0]; $endtime = $endtime[1]+$endtime[0]; $parse_time = $endtime-$starttime; printf (%.4f seconds,$parse_time); ? -- ___ ____ _ Chris Hobbs / \ \/ / | | |/ ___\| __ \ Head Geek| (___ \ \ / /| | | | (___ | | | | WebMaster \___ \ \ \/ / | | | |\___ \| | | | PostMaster) | \ / | |__| |) | |__| | \/\/\/ \/|_/ http://www.silvervalley.k12.ca.us [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To contact the list administrators, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [PHP] php's future
And, of course, the JSP was running 2 x 2 iterations, or 400,000,000 iterations, in a few seconds. Yeah, right. Intersting. I tried the following code (which gives much more detailed time info, check it out - stolen from Andrey Hristov on php-db), and my times, on our P2-266 webserver, are just above 9 seconds. That's at 2000x2000 iterations, or 4M iterations. Of course, I'm trying to figure out when I would have a script that really needed to go through 4M iterations, and thus (like most benchmarks) this probably has no real bearing on the (or at least my) real world. -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To contact the list administrators, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [PHP] php's future
Actually, an optimizing Java compiler would have detected it was a dead loop (i.e. didn't actually do anything) and just skipped it, meaning it took four seconds just to load the JSP page and invoke the bean. :) :) The only benchmarks that mean anything are your actual web applications running on your actual servers...anything else is only speculation. - Tim http://www.phptemplates.org On Sun, 2001-09-02 at 15:08, Mark Charette wrote: And, of course, the JSP was running 2 x 2 iterations, or 400,000,000 iterations, in a few seconds. Yeah, right. -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To contact the list administrators, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [PHP] php's future
So, we can say that on scripts that accomplish absolutely nothing, jsp is faster than php - I can live with that :) Most of my scripts do accomplish something (intended or not!) ;) Tim wrote: Actually, an optimizing Java compiler would have detected it was a dead loop (i.e. didn't actually do anything) and just skipped it, meaning it took four seconds just to load the JSP page and invoke the bean. :) :) The only benchmarks that mean anything are your actual web applications running on your actual servers...anything else is only speculation. - Tim http://www.phptemplates.org On Sun, 2001-09-02 at 15:08, Mark Charette wrote: And, of course, the JSP was running 2 x 2 iterations, or 400,000,000 iterations, in a few seconds. Yeah, right. -- ___ ____ _ Chris Hobbs / \ \/ / | | |/ ___\| __ \ Head Geek| (___ \ \ / /| | | | (___ | | | | WebMaster \___ \ \ \/ / | | | |\___ \| | | | PostMaster) | \ / | |__| |) | |__| | \/\/\/ \/|_/ http://www.silvervalley.k12.ca.us [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To contact the list administrators, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [PHP] php's future
So sprach »Chris Hobbs« am 2001-09-02 um 12:00:26 -0700 : Of course, I'm trying to figure out when I would have a script that really needed to go through 4M iterations, and thus (like most Well, this is of course true, but I can easily imagine a script which is run 200,000 times per second (well, not really...) and which loops thru 20 values. Alexander Skwar -- How to quote: http://learn.to/quote (german) http://quote.6x.to (english) Homepage: http://www.digitalprojects.com | http://www.iso-top.de iso-top.de - Die günstige Art an Linux Distributionen zu kommen Uptime: 5 hours 29 minutes -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To contact the list administrators, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [PHP] php's future
me too and as the max execution time is 30 secs and there's no code to override it. - Original Message - From: nick [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'nick' [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, September 02, 2001 1:56 PM Subject: RE: [PHP] php's future | Haha I tried its code and it only takes 1~2 secs to run it . | | Wellgod damn lies | | -Original Message- | From: nick [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] | Sent: Sunday, September 02, 2001 8:38 PM | To: 'Faisal Nasim'; [EMAIL PROTECTED] | Subject: RE: [PHP] php's future | | It's Chinese . | | I translated it maybe u cannot understand bcoz my English is not | good | | First: jsp test for loop see below | | jsp:useBean id='clock' scope='page' class='dates.JspCalendar' | type=dates.JspCalendar/ | jsp:getProperty name=clock property=time / | % | int i=0; | int j=0; | int k=0; | for(i=0;i2;i++){ | for(j=0;j2;j++){ | | } | } | % | jsp:useBean id='clock1' scope='page' class='dates.JspCalendar' | type=dates.JspCalendar/ | jsp:getProperty name=clock1 property=time / | | 4 secs taken | | Next : php test for loop see below (he didn't mention if it is php3 | or php4) | ? | $TTime=date(Y-n-d). . date(H:i:s); | echo $TTime; | echo | ; | for($i=0;$i1000;$i++){ | for($j=0;$j1000;$j++){ | } | } | $TTime=date(Y-n-d). . date(H:i:s); | echo $TTime; | ? | | 84 secs taken ++ | | Third : Asp for loop test | % | response.write now | response.write | | for i=0 to 2000 | for j=0 to 2000 | next | next | response.write now | % | | 64 secs taken | | Last one : Asp+ for loop test | | % | Dim intStart,intStop As DateTime | Dim timeUse As TimeSpan | dim Sum,i,j as int32 | intStart = DateTime.Now | for i=1 to 2 | for j=1 to 2 | Sum=Sum + i | next | next | intStop = DateTime.Now | timeUse = intStop.Subtract(intStart) | Response.Write (TimeSpan.ToString(timeUse)) | % | | 3.6 secs taken | | if u can read Chinese u can go | http://www.webappcabaret.com/jsptw/doc/test-report.htm for more | infomation. | | It's a website which teach jsp at all | | | -Original Message- | From: Faisal Nasim [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] | Sent: Sunday, September 02, 2001 7:54 PM | To: nick | Subject: Re: [PHP] php's future | | Where did you see that? | | Faisal | | At 04:28 PM 9/2/2001, you wrote: | Hi all in the list : | I read an news that said jsp/asp.net is better than php.. | | They made a test that asp/php/jsp/asp.net using for loops, | | Jsp from 1 to 2 takes only 4 secs | Asp from 1 to 2000 (not 2) takes 72 secs | Php from 1 to 2000 (not 2) takes 68 secs | Asp.Net from 1 to 2 takes only 3.5~3.8 secs... | | So is it time to learn jsp/asp+ instead of learning php ..??? | I am so confused ~ | I have been learning php for a while and now it said jsp/asp+ is better | than it.@@ | | | | | -- | PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) | To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | To contact the list administrators, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | | | | | -- | PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) | To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | To contact the list administrators, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | | -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To contact the list administrators, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [PHP] php's future
So sprach »Paul Roberts« am 2001-09-02 um 17:06:08 +0100 : me too and as the max execution time is 30 secs and there's no code to override it. Not so. http://www.php.net/manual/en/function.set-time-limit.php http://www.php.net/manual/en/configuration.php#ini.max-execution-time PS: Quote only what's neccessary. Alexander Skwar -- How to quote: http://learn.to/quote (german) http://quote.6x.to (english) Homepage: http://www.digitalprojects.com | http://www.iso-top.de iso-top.de - Die günstige Art an Linux Distributionen zu kommen Uptime: 5 hours 53 minutes -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To contact the list administrators, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [PHP] php's future
i think he meant in that specific code, they don't change the default time, therefore, it'd be impossible Alexander Skwar wrote: So sprach »Paul Roberts« am 2001-09-02 um 17:06:08 +0100 : me too and as the max execution time is 30 secs and there's no code to override it. Not so. http://www.php.net/manual/en/function.set-time-limit.php http://www.php.net/manual/en/configuration.php#ini.max-execution-time PS: Quote only what's neccessary. Alexander Skwar -- How to quote: http://learn.to/quote (german) http://quote.6x.to (english) Homepage: http://www.digitalprojects.com | http://www.iso-top.de iso-top.de - Die günstige Art an Linux Distributionen zu kommen Uptime: 5 hours 53 minutes -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To contact the list administrators, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To contact the list administrators, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [PHP] php's future
So sprach »Jack Dempsey« am 2001-09-02 um 16:29:52 -0400 : i think he meant in that specific code, they don't change the default time, therefore, it'd be impossible Ah, I see. Well, yes, that's right. Uhm - maybe not. Although very unlikely, it's possible that they've changed it in the php.ini file. Alexander Skwar -- How to quote: http://learn.to/quote (german) http://quote.6x.to (english) Homepage: http://www.digitalprojects.com | http://www.iso-top.de iso-top.de - Die günstige Art an Linux Distributionen zu kommen Uptime: 6 hours 8 minutes -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To contact the list administrators, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [PHP] php's future
Pardon my English - I don't know Chinese. :( That's the worst comparison benchmarks I've ever seen. http://www.zdnet.com/enterprise/stories/linux/0,12249,2646052,00.html DAMN - they've moved it. Anyone got a better link? The only one I could find was http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ASP-Developers/message/1816 Basically, JSP came in dead LAST in a benchmark. PHP was about 3 times faster doing the same stuff (running a simulated real world shopping system.). If you want to run empty loops in 4 seconds, use JSP. To run real web apps, run PHP. What hardware were they running? What version of PHP? What speed processors? Why loop 20,000 in one, but 1,000 in another? Why keep track of 2 counter variables in JSP and PHP, but 3 in ASP? There are WAY too many problems with this to be taken seriously at all. I wouldn't base a technical career decision on this info. nick wrote: Hi all in the list : I read an news that said jsp/asp.net is better than php.. They made a test that asp/php/jsp/asp.net using for loops, Jsp from 1 to 2 takes only 4 secs Asp from 1 to 2000 (not 2) takes 72 secs Php from 1 to 2000 (not 2) takes 68 secs Asp.Net from 1 to 2 takes only 3.5~3.8 secs... So is it time to learn jsp/asp+ instead of learning php ..??? I am so confused ~ I have been learning php for a while and now it said jsp/asp+ is better than it.@@ -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To contact the list administrators, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [PHP] php's future
I also can hardly believe the 84+ sec. In such case all PHP template engines may run for a thousand years. - Original Message - From: nick [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'nick' [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, September 02, 2001 2:56 PM Subject: RE: [PHP] php's future Haha I tried its code and it only takes 1~2 secs to run it . Wellgod damn lies -Original Message- From: nick [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Sunday, September 02, 2001 8:38 PM To: 'Faisal Nasim'; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [PHP] php's future It's Chinese . I translated it maybe u cannot understand bcoz my English is not good First: jsp test for loop see below jsp:useBean id='clock' scope='page' class='dates.JspCalendar' type=dates.JspCalendar/ jsp:getProperty name=clock property=time / % int i=0; int j=0; int k=0; (i=0;i2;i++){ for(j=0;j2;j++){ } } % jsp:useBean id='clock1' scope='page' class='dates.JspCalendar' type=dates.JspCalendar/ jsp:getProperty name=clock1 property=time / 4 secs taken Next : php test for loop see below (he didn't mention if it is php3 or php4) ? $TTime=date(Y-n-d). . date(H:i:s); echo $TTime; echo ; for($i=0;$i1000;$i++){ for($j=0;$j1000;$j++){ } } $TTime=date(Y-n-d). . date(H:i:s); echo $TTime; ? 84 secs taken ++ Third : Asp for loop test % response.write now response.write for i=0 to 2000 for j=0 to 2000 next next response.write now % 64 secs taken Last one : Asp+ for loop test % Dim intStart,intStop As DateTime Dim timeUse As TimeSpan dim Sum,i,j as int32 intStart = DateTime.Now for i=1 to 2 for j=1 to 2 Sum=Sum + i next next intStop = DateTime.Now ti meUse = intStop.Subtract(intStart) Response.Write (TimeSpan.ToString(timeUse)) % 3.6 secs taken if u can read Chinese u can go http://www.webappcabaret.com/jsptw/doc/test-report.htm for more infomation. It's a website which teach jsp at all -Original Message- From: Faisal Nasim [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Sunday, September 02, 2001 7:54 PM To: nick Subject: Re: [PHP] php's future Where did you see that? Faisal At 04:28 PM 9/2/2001, you wrote: Hi all in the list : I read an news that said jsp/asp.net is better than php.. They made a test that asp/php/jsp/asp.net using for loops, Jsp from 1 to 2 takes only 4 secs Asp from 1 to 2000 (not 2) takes 72 secs Php from 1 to 2000 (not 2) takes 68 secs Asp.Net from 1 to 2 takes only 3.5~3.8 secs... So is it time to learn jsp/asp+ instead of learning php ..??? I am so confused ~ I have been learning php for a while and now it said jsp/asp+ is better than it.@@ -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To contact the list administrators, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To contact the list administrators, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To contact the list administrators, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]