Re: [PHP] php products licensing system

2005-02-15 Thread Jad Madi
as I said, we are willing to have our product open source, but No
free. and that fair enough, thats why I'm asking about a good method
to protect our products from being used illegaly and keeping it open
source


On Tue, 15 Feb 2005 13:05:52 +0200, Jad Madi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 as I said, we are willing to have our product open source, but No
 free. and that fair enough, thats why I'm asking about a good method
 to protect our products from being used illegaly and keeping it open
 source
 
 
 On Tue, 15 Feb 2005 10:11:59 +, timothy johnson
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  So you want to use open source to make it so people cant use your
  code. Does just doesnt sound right, but whatever
 
 
  On Tue, 15 Feb 2005 09:48:44 +0200, Jad Madi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   Hi folks
I hardly convince my company to have their PHP products open source,
   now the challenge is to protect their products from being stolen and
   used illegally so we may Encode only one or two files to keep the use
   of our products on Certain domain or IP address. Any idea how to
   accomplish this ?
  
   if its a must to encode some files to achive our goal then we prefer
   to stick with opensource/free encoder, our choice now is mmCache
   Encoder, but since dl() gonna be depracted in the mean of removed in
   php5, we will not be able to offer our products for shared hosting
   clients
  
   any idea how to protect our products, keeping it open souce as much as
   possible ?
  
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Re: [PHP] php products licensing system

2005-02-15 Thread Jason Barnett
Jad Madi wrote:
as I said, we are willing to have our product open source, but No
free. and that fair enough, thats why I'm asking about a good method
to protect our products from being used illegaly and keeping it open
source
It's a tough balancing act.  Encoding / closing the source with one of
the packages out there is an option.  The license that you use is
important and always be certain that LICENSE is included in every code
distribution.
Without knowing a little more about the exact product you sell it's
tough to give good advice, but some things that I have seen:
- Open up part of the source, but keep the valuable code closed
- Different licenses for different parts of the code
- Open source it all and charge for 24/7 support services
- Open source it all and charge for consulting / specialty services
- Open source it all, but only for a client application.  Then you have
the client connect to a server side app on your site and you charge per
usage.
My advice: look at some of the *successful* and more importantly
*profitable* open source companies out there.
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Re: [PHP] php products licensing system

2005-02-15 Thread Richard Lynch
Jad Madi wrote:
  I hardly convince my company to have their PHP products open source,
 now the challenge is to protect their products from being stolen and
 used illegally so we may Encode only one or two files to keep the use
 of our products on Certain domain or IP address. Any idea how to
 accomplish this ?

Here's the thing:

Software piracy is a social problem.

It's really not solved well by a technical response.

Your best bet is to have a CLEAR and FAIR licensing deal, that anybody
running the software will simply pay up.

No matter what you do, there will ALWAYS be somebody who will find way to
steal your software.

If you make it simple and easy and inexpensive to just BUY it legally,
you'll minimize the losses, without losing customers who will refuse to
use software with encrypted source, or the hassle of dongles or hardware
dependencies or any of that other solutions to this problem.

 if its a must to encode some files to achive our goal then we prefer
 to stick with opensource/free encoder, our choice now is mmCache
 Encoder, but since dl() gonna be depracted in the mean of removed in
 php5, we will not be able to offer our products for shared hosting
 clients

Again, just license it cheaply enough and simply enough that they'll pay
up rather than try to fight you and steal it.

 any idea how to protect our products, keeping it open souce as much as
 possible ?

If your software is worth buying and is priced fairly and clearly
licensed, and if you provide an easy way for the customer to pay up when
the license is due, you'll have a lot less headaches than trying to encode
it.

If your software is NOT fairly/clearly priced, or it's too difficult to
pay and renew the license, you'll end up losing far more money than the
encryption will save you.

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[PHP] php products licensing system

2005-02-14 Thread Jad Madi
Hi folks
 I hardly convince my company to have their PHP products open source,
now the challenge is to protect their products from being stolen and
used illegally so we may Encode only one or two files to keep the use
of our products on Certain domain or IP address. Any idea how to
accomplish this ?

if its a must to encode some files to achive our goal then we prefer
to stick with opensource/free encoder, our choice now is mmCache
Encoder, but since dl() gonna be depracted in the mean of removed in
php5, we will not be able to offer our products for shared hosting
clients

any idea how to protect our products, keeping it open souce as much as
possible ?

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