Re: [PHP] Making code public -- What steps to take? GPL?
Howdy, I just wanted to say, to all who responded, many many thanks for the help. I greatly appreciate it. I have not made my decision just yet, but it has been great hearing the advice and reading about all the different options available... Well, anyay, thanks! This list has been a life saver. :) Cheers, Micky -- Wishlists: http://snipurl.com/1gqpj Switch: http://browsehappy.com/ BCC?: http://snipurl.com/w6f8 My: http://del.icio.us/mhulse -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] Making code public -- What steps to take? GPL?
On Monday 14 May 2007 07:30, Daniel Brown wrote: Please don't top post. The biggest thing to remember is that a license is like a key it's meant to keep an honest man honest, but won't stop someone who is intent on taking what they want for a profit. Sure, but if you don't make your intentions clear from the start then there's no use complaining afterwards. Not quite an accurate analogy but here goes: If you leave valuables around your house and leave the doors and windows unlocked you're not going to get much sympathy from the police (or the insurance company for that matter) when you get burgled. So, if you don't use a suitable license then you don't have a stick to beat someone with should it ever come to it. -- Crayon -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] Making code public -- What steps to take? GPL?
Micky Hulse wrote: Or, should I just not worry about this? Well shux! I love it when I answer my own questions: http://www.phpfreaks.com/tutorials/19/0.php I blame it on lack of sleep! The GNU GPL License sounds like what I need. :D Cheers, M -- Wishlists: http://snipurl.com/1gqpj Switch: http://browsehappy.com/ BCC?: http://snipurl.com/w6f8 My: http://del.icio.us/mhulse -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] Making code public -- What steps to take? GPL?
If you want to retain some credit but don't care about distribution/modification/redistribution, check out the MIT license (more commonly referred to as the X or X11 license). We're using it in a project that combines PHP and text-to-speech technology. It allows people to improve (or degrade) our code, but says that we should still get our names at the top as the original authors. On 5/13/07, Micky Hulse [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Micky Hulse wrote: Or, should I just not worry about this? Well shux! I love it when I answer my own questions: http://www.phpfreaks.com/tutorials/19/0.php I blame it on lack of sleep! The GNU GPL License sounds like what I need. :D Cheers, M -- Wishlists: http://snipurl.com/1gqpj Switch: http://browsehappy.com/ BCC?: http://snipurl.com/w6f8 My: http://del.icio.us/mhulse -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php -- Daniel P. Brown [office] (570-) 587-7080 Ext. 272 [mobile] (570-) 766-8107
Re: [PHP] Making code public -- What steps to take? GPL?
On 5/13/07, Daniel Brown [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If you want to retain some credit but don't care about distribution/modification/redistribution, check out the MIT license (more commonly referred to as the X or X11 license). We're using it in a project that combines PHP and text-to-speech technology. It allows people to improve (or degrade) our code, but says that we should still get our names at the top as the original authors. You know more than me daniel :P All current releases aren't packed with any license, and in sourceforge the PHP license is selected i believe :P I'd say, don't worry too much about the license, just put your name on top of the code, and some other nonsense, like: You're allowed to use this code, as long as you leave above lines intact., where above your credit is listed of course. Tijnema On 5/13/07, Micky Hulse [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Micky Hulse wrote: Or, should I just not worry about this? Well shux! I love it when I answer my own questions: http://www.phpfreaks.com/tutorials/19/0.php I blame it on lack of sleep! The GNU GPL License sounds like what I need. :D Cheers, M -- Wishlists: http://snipurl.com/1gqpj Switch: http://browsehappy.com/ BCC?: http://snipurl.com/w6f8 My: http://del.icio.us/mhulse -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php -- Daniel P. Brown [office] (570-) 587-7080 Ext. 272 [mobile] (570-) 766-8107 -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] Making code public -- What steps to take? GPL?
Daniel Brown wrote: If you want to retain some credit but don't care about distribution/modification/redistribution, check out the MIT license (more commonly referred to as the X or X11 license). We're using it in a project Ah, great tip! :D I will definitely read-up on the MIT license after I get some zzZZzz's! It sure does sounds like what I am looking for. ;) that combines PHP and text-to-speech technology. It allows people to improve (or degrade) our code, but says that we should still get our names at the top as the original authors. Oh, wow! That sounds like a great project... and it is cool to hear what you/your team decided to use for licensing. :) Many thanks Daniel! I really appreciate the help and advice. Have a great day, Cheers, Micky -- Wishlists: http://snipurl.com/1gqpj Switch: http://browsehappy.com/ BCC?: http://snipurl.com/w6f8 My: http://del.icio.us/mhulse -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] Making code public -- What steps to take? GPL?
Hey! Tijnema! Thanks for the quick reply. :) Tijnema ! wrote: I'd say, don't worry too much about the license, just put your name on top of the code, and some other nonsense, like: You're allowed to use this code, as long as you leave above lines intact., where above your credit is listed of course. Ah, well, that does sound good too. I a mainly looking to keep my name/website somewhere in the comments. :D Whichever route I end-up taking, it is definitely nice to hear what the pros prefer. ;) Thanks again Tijnema! Have a great day. Cheers, Micky -- Wishlists: http://snipurl.com/1gqpj Switch: http://browsehappy.com/ BCC?: http://snipurl.com/w6f8 My: http://del.icio.us/mhulse -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] Making code public -- What steps to take? GPL?
On Sunday 13 May 2007 21:17, Micky Hulse wrote: I will definitely read-up on the MIT license after I get some zzZZzz's! Don't forget the MIT license allows people to incorporate your code into commercial products and sell for profit without having to give anything back (money/improved code/etc). -- Crayon -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] Making code public -- What steps to take? GPL?
Right, I alluded to that, but perhaps I should've said that exactly, as it may bother some people. In my case, it doesn't bother me in the least, just as I use LAMP (all open source) to make a living. On 5/13/07, Crayon Shin Chan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sunday 13 May 2007 21:17, Micky Hulse wrote: I will definitely read-up on the MIT license after I get some zzZZzz's! Don't forget the MIT license allows people to incorporate your code into commercial products and sell for profit without having to give anything back (money/improved code/etc). -- Crayon -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php -- Daniel P. Brown [office] (570-) 587-7080 Ext. 272 [mobile] (570-) 766-8107
Re: [PHP] Making code public -- What steps to take? GPL?
The biggest thing to remember is that a license is like a key it's meant to keep an honest man honest, but won't stop someone who is intent on taking what they want for a profit. On 5/13/07, Micky Hulse [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Crayon Shin Chan wrote: Don't forget the MIT license allows people to incorporate your code into commercial products and sell for profit without having to give anything back (money/improved code/etc). Hi Cayon, thanks for clarification. I just woke up, so I have not had a chance to really research the best option for my code... Hmm, a part of me does not mind the things you say above, but another part of me wonders if it would be best to restrict the commercial usage of it. Heheh, well, either way, thanks for the help. I appreciate it. Have a great day. Cheers, Micky -- Wishlists: http://snipurl.com/1gqpj Switch: http://browsehappy.com/ BCC?: http://snipurl.com/w6f8 My: http://del.icio.us/mhulse -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php -- Daniel P. Brown [office] (570-) 587-7080 Ext. 272 [mobile] (570-) 766-8107
Re: [PHP] Making code public -- What steps to take? GPL?
Crayon Shin Chan wrote: Don't forget the MIT license allows people to incorporate your code into commercial products and sell for profit without having to give anything back (money/improved code/etc). Hi Cayon, thanks for clarification. I just woke up, so I have not had a chance to really research the best option for my code... Hmm, a part of me does not mind the things you say above, but another part of me wonders if it would be best to restrict the commercial usage of it. Heheh, well, either way, thanks for the help. I appreciate it. Have a great day. Cheers, Micky -- Wishlists: http://snipurl.com/1gqpj Switch: http://browsehappy.com/ BCC?: http://snipurl.com/w6f8 My: http://del.icio.us/mhulse -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] Making code public -- What steps to take? GPL?
Daniel Brown wrote: Right, I alluded to that, but perhaps I should've said that exactly, as it may bother some people. In my case, it doesn't bother me in the least, just as I use LAMP (all open source) to make a living. Oh, I think I understood that. But there is always room for clarifications. :D Thanks Daniel, Cheers, Micky -- Wishlists: http://snipurl.com/1gqpj Switch: http://browsehappy.com/ BCC?: http://snipurl.com/w6f8 My: http://del.icio.us/mhulse -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] Making code public -- What steps to take? GPL?
Beware also that if you have an advertising clause that requires your name to stay on it, then you could be preventing GPLed projects from using it. The GPL is incompatible with advertising clause licenses. That's why the PHP License, for instance, is GPL-incompatible. (GPL is the most widely used Free Software / Open Source license by a very wide margin.) If you're OK with both open source and proprietary usage, then consider the LGPL. It's compatible both directions, only requiring modifications to your code specifically to be shared. The modern BSD license is even more permissable. It doesn't have a mandatory advertising clause, but IME if you have a good drop-in module that has a copyright Me and released under the LGPL, see home page here type message most people won't bother taking it out. The people who would try to take credit for your code wouldn't care what license it was under in the first place anyway. Thank you for sharing your code! On Sunday 13 May 2007, Daniel Brown wrote: Right, I alluded to that, but perhaps I should've said that exactly, as it may bother some people. In my case, it doesn't bother me in the least, just as I use LAMP (all open source) to make a living. On 5/13/07, Crayon Shin Chan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sunday 13 May 2007 21:17, Micky Hulse wrote: I will definitely read-up on the MIT license after I get some zzZZzz's! Don't forget the MIT license allows people to incorporate your code into commercial products and sell for profit without having to give anything back (money/improved code/etc). -- Crayon -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php -- Larry Garfield AIM: LOLG42 [EMAIL PROTECTED] ICQ: 6817012 If nature has made any one thing less susceptible than all others of exclusive property, it is the action of the thinking power called an idea, which an individual may exclusively possess as long as he keeps it to himself; but the moment it is divulged, it forces itself into the possession of every one, and the receiver cannot dispossess himself of it. -- Thomas Jefferson -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
