Re: [PHP] Making sure an include file works
On Thu, Feb 28, 2008 at 9:58 PM, Richard S. Crawford < [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I'm trying to figure out a way to make sure an included PHP file has no > syntax > errors before actually including it as a part of project. Is this even > possible? I'm running into brick walls. > > The include itself or the contents in the include file? If you use require() instead of include(), your script will error out if there are any issues with the inclusion of the file. -- -Dan Joseph "Build a man a fire, and he will be warm for the rest of the day. Light a man on fire, and will be warm for the rest of his life."
Re: [PHP] Making sure an include file works
On Thu, 2008-02-28 at 18:58 -0800, Richard S. Crawford wrote: > I'm trying to figure out a way to make sure an included PHP file has no > syntax > errors before actually including it as a part of project. Is this even > possible? I'm running into brick walls. I don't believe there is a function to do this. What can be done though is to call the cli binary with the -l flag and have the file syntax checked that way. php -l /path/to/the/source It wouldn't be very fast though as a solution. Cheers, Rob. -- .. | InterJinn Application Framework - http://www.interjinn.com | :: | An application and templating framework for PHP. Boasting | | a powerful, scalable system for accessing system services | | such as forms, properties, sessions, and caches. InterJinn | | also provides an extremely flexible architecture for | | creating re-usable components quickly and easily. | `' -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] Making sure an include file works
On Thu, Feb 28, 2008 at 7:50 PM, Robert Cummings <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On Thu, 2008-02-28 at 18:58 -0800, Richard S. Crawford wrote: > > I'm trying to figure out a way to make sure an included PHP file has no > syntax > > errors before actually including it as a part of project. Is this even > > possible? I'm running into brick walls. > > I don't believe there is a function to do this. What can be done though > is to call the cli binary with the -l flag and have the file syntax > checked that way. > > php -l /path/to/the/source > > It wouldn't be very fast though as a solution. > > Cheers, > Rob. > -- > .. > | InterJinn Application Framework - http://www.interjinn.com | > :: > | An application and templating framework for PHP. Boasting | > | a powerful, scalable system for accessing system services | > | such as forms, properties, sessions, and caches. InterJinn | > | also provides an extremely flexible architecture for | > | creating re-usable components quickly and easily. | > `' > > > http://us.php.net/manual/en/function.php-check-syntax.php -- -Casey -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] Making sure an include file works
On Thu, 2008-02-28 at 20:17 -0800, Casey wrote: > On Thu, Feb 28, 2008 at 7:50 PM, Robert Cummings <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > On Thu, 2008-02-28 at 18:58 -0800, Richard S. Crawford wrote: > > > I'm trying to figure out a way to make sure an included PHP file has no > > syntax > > > errors before actually including it as a part of project. Is this even > > > possible? I'm running into brick walls. > > > > I don't believe there is a function to do this. What can be done though > > is to call the cli binary with the -l flag and have the file syntax > > checked that way. > > > > php -l /path/to/the/source > > > > It wouldn't be very fast though as a solution. > > http://us.php.net/manual/en/function.php-check-syntax.php Doh! Time for me to start trawling the PHP site again to acquaint myself with all the new functions :) I probably would have found it though if searching the site's functions for syntax didn't take me directly to the documentation for soundex(). Cheers, Rob. -- .. | InterJinn Application Framework - http://www.interjinn.com | :: | An application and templating framework for PHP. Boasting | | a powerful, scalable system for accessing system services | | such as forms, properties, sessions, and caches. InterJinn | | also provides an extremely flexible architecture for | | creating re-usable components quickly and easily. | `' -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] Making sure an include file works
Robert Cummings wrote: On Thu, 2008-02-28 at 20:17 -0800, Casey wrote: On Thu, Feb 28, 2008 at 7:50 PM, Robert Cummings <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On Thu, 2008-02-28 at 18:58 -0800, Richard S. Crawford wrote: > I'm trying to figure out a way to make sure an included PHP file has no syntax > errors before actually including it as a part of project. Is this even > possible? I'm running into brick walls. I don't believe there is a function to do this. What can be done though is to call the cli binary with the -l flag and have the file syntax checked that way. php -l /path/to/the/source It wouldn't be very fast though as a solution. http://us.php.net/manual/en/function.php-check-syntax.php Doh! Time for me to start trawling the PHP site again to acquaint myself with all the new functions :) I probably would have found it though if searching the site's functions for syntax didn't take me directly to the documentation for soundex(). Cheers, Rob. Point to be noted. Check the first note. Note: For technical reasons, this function is deprecated and removed from PHP. Instead, use php -l somefile.php from the commandline. -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] Making sure an include file works
On Thu, 2008-02-28 at 20:46 -0800, Jim Lucas wrote: > Robert Cummings wrote: > > On Thu, 2008-02-28 at 20:17 -0800, Casey wrote: > >> On Thu, Feb 28, 2008 at 7:50 PM, Robert Cummings <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >>> On Thu, 2008-02-28 at 18:58 -0800, Richard S. Crawford wrote: > >>> > I'm trying to figure out a way to make sure an included PHP file has > >>> no syntax > >>> > errors before actually including it as a part of project. Is this even > >>> > possible? I'm running into brick walls. > >>> > >>> I don't believe there is a function to do this. What can be done though > >>> is to call the cli binary with the -l flag and have the file syntax > >>> checked that way. > >>> > >>> php -l /path/to/the/source > >>> > >>> It wouldn't be very fast though as a solution. > >> http://us.php.net/manual/en/function.php-check-syntax.php > > > > Doh! Time for me to start trawling the PHP site again to acquaint myself > > with all the new functions :) I probably would have found it though if > > searching the site's functions for syntax didn't take me directly to the > > documentation for soundex(). > > > > Cheers, > > Rob. > > Point to be noted. Check the first note. > > Note: For technical reasons, this function is deprecated and removed > from PHP. Instead, use php -l somefile.php from the commandline. That's funny given the thread so far :D Cheers, Rob. -- .. | InterJinn Application Framework - http://www.interjinn.com | :: | An application and templating framework for PHP. Boasting | | a powerful, scalable system for accessing system services | | such as forms, properties, sessions, and caches. InterJinn | | also provides an extremely flexible architecture for | | creating re-usable components quickly and easily. | `' -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] Making sure an include file works
Robert Cummings wrote: On Thu, 2008-02-28 at 20:46 -0800, Jim Lucas wrote: Robert Cummings wrote: On Thu, 2008-02-28 at 20:17 -0800, Casey wrote: On Thu, Feb 28, 2008 at 7:50 PM, Robert Cummings <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On Thu, 2008-02-28 at 18:58 -0800, Richard S. Crawford wrote: > I'm trying to figure out a way to make sure an included PHP file has no syntax > errors before actually including it as a part of project. Is this even > possible? I'm running into brick walls. I don't believe there is a function to do this. What can be done though is to call the cli binary with the -l flag and have the file syntax checked that way. php -l /path/to/the/source It wouldn't be very fast though as a solution. http://us.php.net/manual/en/function.php-check-syntax.php Doh! Time for me to start trawling the PHP site again to acquaint myself with all the new functions :) I probably would have found it though if searching the site's functions for syntax didn't take me directly to the documentation for soundex(). Cheers, Rob. Point to be noted. Check the first note. Note: For technical reasons, this function is deprecated and removed from PHP. Instead, use php -l somefile.php from the commandline. That's funny given the thread so far :D Cheers, Rob. It isn't my words. Look at the versions the function is available for. PHP 5 <= 5.0.4 -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] Making sure an include file works
On Thu, 2008-02-28 at 20:53 -0800, Jim Lucas wrote: > Robert Cummings wrote: > > On Thu, 2008-02-28 at 20:46 -0800, Jim Lucas wrote: > >> Robert Cummings wrote: > >>> On Thu, 2008-02-28 at 20:17 -0800, Casey wrote: > On Thu, Feb 28, 2008 at 7:50 PM, Robert Cummings <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > On Thu, 2008-02-28 at 18:58 -0800, Richard S. Crawford wrote: > > > I'm trying to figure out a way to make sure an included PHP file has > > no syntax > > > errors before actually including it as a part of project. Is this > > even > > > possible? I'm running into brick walls. > > > > I don't believe there is a function to do this. What can be done though > > is to call the cli binary with the -l flag and have the file syntax > > checked that way. > > > > php -l /path/to/the/source > > > > It wouldn't be very fast though as a solution. > http://us.php.net/manual/en/function.php-check-syntax.php > >>> Doh! Time for me to start trawling the PHP site again to acquaint myself > >>> with all the new functions :) I probably would have found it though if > >>> searching the site's functions for syntax didn't take me directly to the > >>> documentation for soundex(). > >>> > >>> Cheers, > >>> Rob. > >> Point to be noted. Check the first note. > >> > >> Note: For technical reasons, this function is deprecated and removed > >> from PHP. Instead, use php -l somefile.php from the commandline. > > > > That's funny given the thread so far :D > > > > Cheers, > > Rob. > > It isn't my words. Look at the versions the function is available for. > > PHP 5 <= 5.0.4 I meant funny, in that the solution goes back to what I offered originally :) Cheers, Rob. -- .. | InterJinn Application Framework - http://www.interjinn.com | :: | An application and templating framework for PHP. Boasting | | a powerful, scalable system for accessing system services | | such as forms, properties, sessions, and caches. InterJinn | | also provides an extremely flexible architecture for | | creating re-usable components quickly and easily. | `' -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] Making sure an include file works
Thanks to everyone for the suggestions. Unfortunately, I'm up against a couple of major hurdles: 1. My host does not allow command line access and has disabled shell execution of PHP; 2. Error reporting has been turned off and I can't seem to turn that on with ini_set or error_reporting (which is fun when I have minor syntax errors to fix); and 3. My host is also stuck in PHP 4.3, so the check_syntax function isn't available to me either (although I understand that this function has been deprecated in the most recent builds of PHP). At this point, I'll just use file_exists and is_readable for some basic checking, and hope that the included files have no syntax errors. On Fri, Feb 29, 2008 at 11:25 AM, Daniel Brown <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Thu, Feb 28, 2008 at 9:58 PM, Richard S. Crawford > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I'm trying to figure out a way to make sure an included PHP file has no > syntax > > errors before actually including it as a part of project. Is this even > > possible? I'm running into brick walls. > >As far as I know, the only way to do that is via the CLI (or > accessing the include file directly in the browser). > >Make sure that error_reporting is enabled and that it's set to > report E_ALL if you want to really be sure your code is clean (i.e. - > reporting unused, undefined, and uninstantiated variables, et cetera). > >Then, if done from a *nix command line, just type: >php -l /path/to/include/file.php > > -- > > > Daniel P. Brown > Senior Unix Geek > > > -- > PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) > To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php > > -- Richard S. Crawford ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) http://www.mossroot.com Publisher and Editor in Chief, Daikaijuzine (http://www.daikaijuzine.com) Support me in Write-a-thon 2007: http://www.firstgiving.com/richardscrawford
Re: [PHP] Making sure an include file works
On Thu, Feb 28, 2008 at 9:58 PM, Richard S. Crawford <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I'm trying to figure out a way to make sure an included PHP file has no syntax > errors before actually including it as a part of project. Is this even > possible? I'm running into brick walls. As far as I know, the only way to do that is via the CLI (or accessing the include file directly in the browser). Make sure that error_reporting is enabled and that it's set to report E_ALL if you want to really be sure your code is clean (i.e. - reporting unused, undefined, and uninstantiated variables, et cetera). Then, if done from a *nix command line, just type: php -l /path/to/include/file.php -- Daniel P. Brown Senior Unix Geek -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] Making sure an include file works
1. My host does not allow command line access and has disabled shell execution of PHP; 2. Error reporting has been turned off and I can't seem to turn that on with ini_set or error_reporting (which is fun when I have minor syntax errors to fix); and 3. My host is also stuck in PHP 4.3, so the check_syntax function isn't available to me either (although I understand that this function has been deprecated in the most recent builds of PHP). To be quite honest, your host sounds like it sucks donkey dick. Get another if you can. At this point, I'll just use file_exists and is_readable for some basic checking, and hope that the included files have no syntax errors. Hoping something works leads you down the path of severely broken code. -- Richard Heyes Employ me: http://www.phpguru.org/cv -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] Making sure an include file works
On Fri, Feb 29, 2008 at 2:32 PM, Richard S. Crawford <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Thanks to everyone for the suggestions. Unfortunately, I'm up against a > couple of major hurdles: Not to be a smartass with my responses here > 1. My host does not allow command line access and has disabled shell > execution of PHP; Get a new host that will allow commands and offers access to people who know how to correctly use it. > 2. Error reporting has been turned off and I can't seem to turn that on > with ini_set or error_reporting (which is fun when I have minor syntax > errors to fix); and Get a new host that understands that - while they may want to hide their own errors - disabling error_reporting for all customer websites by default is asinine. > 3. My host is also stuck in PHP 4.3, so the check_syntax function isn't > available to me either (although I understand that this function has been > deprecated in the most recent builds of PHP). Get a new host that knows how to administer a web server. PHP 4.3 was released 27 December, 2002, with the latest from the 4.3 branch (4.3.11) being released 31 March, 2005. The CHANGELOG should give you an idea of how *horrible* this is: http://www.php.net/ChangeLog-4.php All of PHP4 reached its EOL the last day of 2007, but at the very least, try to find a host that uses a version of PHP newer than three to five years old. -- Daniel P. Brown Senior Unix Geek -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] Making sure an include file works
Richard S. Crawford schreef: Thanks to everyone for the suggestions. Unfortunately, I'm up against a couple of major hurdles: 1. My host does not allow command line access and has disabled shell execution of PHP; 2. Error reporting has been turned off and I can't seem to turn that on with ini_set or error_reporting (which is fun when I have minor syntax errors to fix); and which ini setting? if you want to see your errors in the browser you need display_errors set to On. error_reporting only sets the level of reporting. 3. My host is also stuck in PHP 4.3, so the check_syntax function isn't available to me either (although I understand that this function has been deprecated in the most recent builds of PHP). make your host your ex-host. At this point, I'll just use file_exists and is_readable for some basic checking, and hope that the included files have no syntax errors. it seems madness that you don't seem to test code before incorporating it into a production system. at the very least anything you put on a website should parse properly. have you considered installing a local copy of php (and suitable webserver) so you can test it there? On Fri, Feb 29, 2008 at 11:25 AM, Daniel Brown <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On Thu, Feb 28, 2008 at 9:58 PM, Richard S. Crawford <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I'm trying to figure out a way to make sure an included PHP file has no syntax errors before actually including it as a part of project. Is this even possible? I'm running into brick walls. As far as I know, the only way to do that is via the CLI (or accessing the include file directly in the browser). Make sure that error_reporting is enabled and that it's set to report E_ALL if you want to really be sure your code is clean (i.e. - reporting unused, undefined, and uninstantiated variables, et cetera). Then, if done from a *nix command line, just type: php -l /path/to/include/file.php -- Daniel P. Brown Senior Unix Geek -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] Making sure an include file works
On Fri, Feb 29, 2008 at 3:42 PM, Jochem Maas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > have you considered installing a local copy of php (and suitable webserver) > so you can test it there? Always good advice. At the very least, a remote dev box on which to work the code. However, it's not going to be the Holy Grail (as I know Jochem's already aware, but I'll point out for newbies), because it's more work than is generally justifiable to mirror an entire server's environment for a single project. For example, why would you want to limit yourself to such antiquated technology on your development box (losing a lot of functionality, and re-creating security vulnerabilities and system problems) just to match to a bad web host? More common, you may install Apache 2.0.48 with PHP as an ASPX2 module with the GD library, which has distinct differences from an Apache 1.3.37 with PHP as CGI with bundled GD. -- Daniel P. Brown Senior Unix Geek -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] Making sure an include file works
On Friday 29 February 2008 11:58:16 Daniel Brown wrote: > Get a new host that knows how to administer a web server. PHP 4.3 > was released 27 December, 2002, with the latest from the 4.3 branch > (4.3.11) being released 31 March, 2005. The CHANGELOG should give you > an idea of how *horrible* this is: http://www.php.net/ChangeLog-4.php Ah, if only I could. The choice of host was made by my boss, and he loves them. -- Slainte, Richard S. Crawford Editor-in-chief, Daikaijuzine (http://www.daikaijuzine.com) Personal website: http://www.mossroot.com -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] Making sure an include file works
On Fri, Feb 29, 2008 at 10:02 PM, Richard S. Crawford <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Friday 29 February 2008 11:58:16 Daniel Brown wrote: > > Get a new host that knows how to administer a web server. PHP 4.3 > > was released 27 December, 2002, with the latest from the 4.3 branch > > (4.3.11) being released 31 March, 2005. The CHANGELOG should give you > > an idea of how *horrible* this is: http://www.php.net/ChangeLog-4.php > > Ah, if only I could. The choice of host was made by my boss, and he loves > them. And if they truly love him in return, they'll let him go -- Daniel P. Brown Senior Unix Geek -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] Making sure an include file works
have you considered installing a local copy of php (and suitable webserver) so you can test it there? I'd also suggest using a revision control system (subversion or git) and have pre-commit hooks to check the syntax. It's a bit of work to set up but once it's done you'll notice a difference - just knowing how often you're changing things can be surprising. -- Postgresql & php tutorials http://www.designmagick.com/ -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] Making sure an include file works
Chris wrote: have you considered installing a local copy of php (and suitable webserver) so you can test it there? I'd also suggest using a revision control system (subversion or git) and have pre-commit hooks to check the syntax. It's a bit of work to set up but once it's done you'll notice a difference - just knowing how often you're changing things can be surprising. Hi, Do you mind sharing a source where I can find more information about pre-commit hooks (and especially about syntax checking hooks)? We use subversion here and it would be great to use such hooks. Thanks. Aschwin Wesselius -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] Making sure an include file works
Aschwin Wesselius wrote: Chris wrote: have you considered installing a local copy of php (and suitable webserver) so you can test it there? I'd also suggest using a revision control system (subversion or git) and have pre-commit hooks to check the syntax. It's a bit of work to set up but once it's done you'll notice a difference - just knowing how often you're changing things can be surprising. Hi, Do you mind sharing a source where I can find more information about pre-commit hooks (and especially about syntax checking hooks)? We use subversion here and it would be great to use such hooks. Thanks. Aschwin Wesselius Ah, never mind, I've found an howto myself: http://www.gmta.info/publications/php-syntax-check-through-subversion-pre-commit-hook Cheers, Aschwin Wesselius -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] Making sure an include file works
On Thu, February 28, 2008 10:25 pm, Robert Cummings wrote: > Doh! Time for me to start trawling the PHP site again to acquaint > myself > with all the new functions :) I probably would have found it though if > searching the site's functions for syntax didn't take me directly to > the > documentation for soundex(). It's not a new function, really... It's a new function that didn't work out well, and is deprecated and only lived from PHP 5.0.0 to PHP 5.0.4 Probably not something you'll want to rely on. Back to exec("php -l ..."); -- Some people have a "gift" link here. Know what I want? I want you to buy a CD from some indie artist. http://cdbaby.com/from/lynch Yeah, I get a buck. So? -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] Making sure an include file works
At 6:58 PM -0800 2/28/08, Richard S. Crawford wrote: I'm trying to figure out a way to make sure an included PHP file has no syntax errors before actually including it as a part of project. Is this even possible? I'm running into brick walls. I'm not sure if this is what you are asking for, but occasionally I have an include file that just brings functions and sometimes I want to know if that file has any errors in it. As such, I simply add echo('a'); at the beginning of the file. If I run the script that includes that include and see an 'a' printed at the top of the page, then I know that the include has no syntax errors. Then it's simple to comment out that line. Cheers, tedd -- --- http://sperling.com http://ancientstones.com http://earthstones.com -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] Making sure an include file works
At 7:52 PM + 2/29/08, Richard Heyes wrote: 1. My host does not allow command line access and has disabled shell execution of PHP; 2. Error reporting has been turned off and I can't seem to turn that on with ini_set or error_reporting (which is fun when I have minor syntax errors to fix); and 3. My host is also stuck in PHP 4.3, so the check_syntax function isn't available to me either (although I understand that this function has been deprecated in the most recent builds of PHP). To be quite honest, your host sounds like it sucks donkey dick. Get another if you can. Try: http://www.pilotpig.com/ They do it much better (hosting, not the donkey thing). :-) Cheers, -- --- http://sperling.com http://ancientstones.com http://earthstones.com -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] Making sure an include file works
At 12:05 PM -0500 3/4/08, Daniel Brown wrote: No, that would work fine in any case. In fact, code should always be thoroughly tested before going into production. Yeah, but that rules out all the fun. Cheers, tedd -- --- http://sperling.com http://ancientstones.com http://earthstones.com -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] Making sure an include file works
On Tue, Mar 4, 2008 at 11:29 AM, Mike Potter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Fri, Feb 29, 2008 at 2:25 PM, Daniel Brown wrote: > > On Thu, Feb 28, 2008 at 9:58 PM, Richard S. Crawford > > > I'm trying to figure out a way to make sure an included PHP file has no > > > syntax > > > errors before actually including it as a part of project. Is this even > > > possible? I'm running into brick walls. > > > > As far as I know, the only way to do that is via the CLI (or > > accessing the include file directly in the browser). > > I'm wondering why the include couldn't be given a dry run in a test > file, migrated to the live file if all goes well. Am I missing > something obvious? No, that would work fine in any case. In fact, code should always be thoroughly tested before going into production. -- Daniel P. Brown Senior Unix Geek -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php