Re: [PHP] Re: mysql_connect does not connect

[Chris Dowell]

Sam,
You're correct - the manual does leave a little bit of a grey area about 
which extension you should use for 4.1.0 < MySQL version < 4.1.3

However, as you're using 5.0.1 this really shouldn't confuse you to 
quite the extent which it has.

Sam Hobbs wrote:
"Curt Zirzow" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message 
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RTFM.
mysql:
This MySQL extension doesn't support full functionality of MySQL
versions greater than 4.1.0. For that, use MySQLi.
mysqli:
The mysqli extension is designed to work with the version 4.1.3 or
above of MySQL.
   

What the manual says (as quoted) is either not relevant or is not clear.
 

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Re: [PHP] Re: mysql_connect does not connect

[Sam Hobbs]

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>
> Unfortunately (fortunately?) there are packages out there which install 
> all
> Apache/MySQL/PHP for you or whatever. So unless you state which package
> you're using then "typical" is still meaningless. It's just helpful when
> posting to provide as much _relevant_ info as possible.

I am sorry I did not know anything about the other packages. I assumed it 
was clear that I meant the installation provided by MySQL from there web 
site. I had no way of knowing that I needed to state what package. The MySQL 
documentation mentions only two ways of installing MySQL; either manually or 
by using the installation program they provide.

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Re: [PHP] Re: mysql_connect does not connect

[Matthew Sims]

> * Thus wrote Sam Hobbs:
>> "Curt Zirzow" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
>> news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> >
>> > RTFM.
>> >
>> > mysql:
>> >  This MySQL extension doesn't support full functionality of MySQL
>> >  versions greater than 4.1.0. For that, use MySQLi.
>> >
>> > mysqli:
>> >  The mysqli extension is designed to work with the version 4.1.3 or
>> >  above of MySQL.
>>
>> What the manual says (as quoted) is either not relevant or is not clear.
>
> sigh.
>
>
> Curt

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Re: [PHP] Re: mysql_connect does not connect

[Curt Zirzow]

* Thus wrote Sam Hobbs:
> "Curt Zirzow" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message 
> news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >
> > RTFM.
> >
> > mysql:
> >  This MySQL extension doesn't support full functionality of MySQL
> >  versions greater than 4.1.0. For that, use MySQLi.
> >
> > mysqli:
> >  The mysqli extension is designed to work with the version 4.1.3 or
> >  above of MySQL.
> 
> What the manual says (as quoted) is either not relevant or is not clear.

sigh.


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Re: [PHP] Re: mysql_connect does not connect

[Jason Wong]

On Friday 17 September 2004 23:36, Sam Hobbs wrote:
> "Jason Wong" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
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>
> There is only one Windows installer available rom the MySQL web site and it
> has an option that explicitly says "Typical". Therefore in this context
> "Typical" is extremely specific and relevant.

Unfortunately (fortunately?) there are packages out there which install all 
Apache/MySQL/PHP for you or whatever. So unless you state which package 
you're using then "typical" is still meaningless. It's just helpful when 
posting to provide as much _relevant_ info as possible.

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Re: [PHP] Re: mysql_connect does not connect

[Jason Davidson]

Yes yes, your always relevent, we are not... funny that you have the
problem and we do not though. 

Jason

"Sam Hobbs" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: 
> 
> "Jason Wong" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message 
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> >
> > I'm not familiar with MySQL under Windows, but I believe that there are
> > different installers available from various sources. So saying "Typical"
> > installation option doesn't really mean much.
> 
> There is only one Windows installer available rom the MySQL web site and it 
> has an option that explicitly says "Typical". Therefore in this context 
> "Typical" is extremely specific and relevant.
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Re: [PHP] Re: mysql_connect does not connect

[Sam Hobbs]

"Jason Wong" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message 
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>
> I'm not familiar with MySQL under Windows, but I believe that there are
> different installers available from various sources. So saying "Typical"
> installation option doesn't really mean much.

There is only one Windows installer available rom the MySQL web site and it 
has an option that explicitly says "Typical". Therefore in this context 
"Typical" is extremely specific and relevant.

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Re: [PHP] Re: mysql_connect does not connect

[Sam Hobbs]

"Curt Zirzow" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message 
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>
> RTFM.
>
> mysql:
>  This MySQL extension doesn't support full functionality of MySQL
>  versions greater than 4.1.0. For that, use MySQLi.
>
> mysqli:
>  The mysqli extension is designed to work with the version 4.1.3 or
>  above of MySQL.

What the manual says (as quoted) is either not relevant or is not clear.

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Re: [PHP] Re: mysql_connect does not connect

[John Nichel]

Jason Davidson wrote:
woah, full functionality.. it has will still connect, at least, it will
still connect for me.  Where the functionality is missing, im not sure.
 But sinse the error is cant connect to localhost, i would say that it
strying to connect to localhost, and not being allowed.  
The missing functionality has to do with new functions added to MySQL 
4.1.x that didn't exist before.  It's safe to say that being able to 
connect to the database existed before MySQL 4.1.x.  Check the MySQL web 
site for changes to 4.1.x

If the error is...
Fatal error:  Call to undefined function mysqli_connect()
Then the problem is that mysqli support is not compiled in.
MySQL functions != MySQLi functions
That said, im fully open to the idea that this may be the problem, im
just reporting that i have connected to a mysql version greater than
4.1 with mysql_connect.  
mysql_connect() != mysqli_connect
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Re: [PHP] Re: mysql_connect does not connect

[Jason Davidson]

woah, full functionality.. it has will still connect, at least, it will
still connect for me.  Where the functionality is missing, im not sure.
 But sinse the error is cant connect to localhost, i would say that it
strying to connect to localhost, and not being allowed.  

That said, im fully open to the idea that this may be the problem, im
just reporting that i have connected to a mysql version greater than
4.1 with mysql_connect.  

Jason

Curt Zirzow <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: 
> 
> * Thus wrote Sam Hobbs:
> > "Janbro" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message 
> > news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > Hi I connect to a MySQL 4.1 with the following String:
> > >
> > >
> > > if
> > > ($db_verbin=mysqli_connect("$mysql_host","$mysql_user","$mysql_passw","$DB_n
> > > ame"))
> > >
> > > watch the i in mysqli_connect!
> > >
> > > I think I've read somewhere that you are required to use that for the >4.1
> > > Versions, but you
> > >
> > > better look that up, I might be wrong there.
> > >
> > > Hope this helps
> > >
> > > JanBro
> > 
> > 
> > When I do try mysqli_connect, I get:
> > 
> > Fatal error:  Call to undefined function mysqli_connect()
> > 
> > So obviously I need to do something to enable that. I will look into that 
> > later, but I am still trying to get mysql_connect to work.
> 
> RTFM.
> 
> mysql:
>   This MySQL extension doesn't support full functionality of MySQL
>   versions greater than 4.1.0. For that, use MySQLi.
> 
> mysqli:
>   The mysqli extension is designed to work with the version 4.1.3 or
>   above of MySQL.
> 
> 
> 
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Re: [PHP] Re: mysql_connect does not connect

[Curt Zirzow]

* Thus wrote Sam Hobbs:
> "Janbro" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message 
> news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Hi I connect to a MySQL 4.1 with the following String:
> >
> >
> > if
> > ($db_verbin=mysqli_connect("$mysql_host","$mysql_user","$mysql_passw","$DB_n
> > ame"))
> >
> > watch the i in mysqli_connect!
> >
> > I think I've read somewhere that you are required to use that for the >4.1
> > Versions, but you
> >
> > better look that up, I might be wrong there.
> >
> > Hope this helps
> >
> > JanBro
> 
> 
> When I do try mysqli_connect, I get:
> 
> Fatal error:  Call to undefined function mysqli_connect()
> 
> So obviously I need to do something to enable that. I will look into that 
> later, but I am still trying to get mysql_connect to work.

RTFM.

mysql:
  This MySQL extension doesn't support full functionality of MySQL
  versions greater than 4.1.0. For that, use MySQLi.

mysqli:
  The mysqli extension is designed to work with the version 4.1.3 or
  above of MySQL.



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Re: [PHP] Re: mysql_connect does not connect

[raditha dissanayake]

Jason Wong wrote:
On Thursday 16 September 2004 11:51, raditha dissanayake wrote:
 

me thinks it's time to look very closely at http://www.postgresql.org
Not just you sam, all of us.
   

If everyone subscribes to your reasoning then nobody would be using Windows 
(yay!).
 

I am a recent convert to postgres so bear with me. last year my religion 
was pretty much mysql.

Anyway FWIW I found postgresql's system of granting users access is way more 
complicated to get to grips to than mysql's.

 


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Re: [PHP] Re: mysql_connect does not connect

[Jason Wong]

On Thursday 16 September 2004 11:51, raditha dissanayake wrote:

> me thinks it's time to look very closely at http://www.postgresql.org
> Not just you sam, all of us.

If everyone subscribes to your reasoning then nobody would be using Windows 
(yay!).

Anyway FWIW I found postgresql's system of granting users access is way more 
complicated to get to grips to than mysql's.

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Re: [PHP] Re: mysql_connect does not connect

[Jason Wong]

On Thursday 16 September 2004 10:53, Sam Hobbs wrote:
> "Jason Wong" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
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>
> > So now are you fully convinced it's your firewall that's the root of your
> > problem?
>
> No, not really. At the moment I am assuming it is a bug in something
> somewhere. The versions of php and MySQL that I am using are not fully
> tested. Therefore it is entirely possible that the problem I had is not
> supposed to be a problem.

 Whether it is bug or not, whether it is supposed to be a problem or 
not, the fact is that the firewall was interfering with your ability to 
connect to mysql.

> > 1) How are you connecting using mysql_connect()? Do you use IP addresses
> > or
> > hostnames?
> > 2) What are your exact connection parameters when connecting as an "admin
> > user"?
> > 3) What are your exact connection parameters when connecting as an
> > "normal user"?
>
> I am not sure how to determine these things, except to say that I am using
> MySQL as it was installed by the "Typical" installation option.

I'm not familiar with MySQL under Windows, but I believe that there are 
different installers available from various sources. So saying "Typical" 
installation option doesn't really mean much.

> Oh, now I understand better. Sorry. The username "admin" confused me, but I
> should have known.

I didn't say "the username admin", I said the "admin user".

> There is a slight chance I used a different host than "localhost". 

[quote from another Sam HObbs post]
> However I also believe in being methodical and in verifying assumptions. It
> does help to eliminate possilities.
[end quote]

I would've thought that being methodical implied meticulous noting of cause 
and effect.

Using anything other than localhost/127.0.0.1 would almost certainly make you 
hit the firewall.

Note also that for troubleshooting it's probably better to use 127.0.0.1 
rather than localhost. The latter is subject to your system's "dns resolution 
mechanism" and also to the mysql client library's interpretation.

> Other than that, I used the following
> for both my Administrator and my non-Administrator accounts:
>
>  $location = "localhost";
> $username = "root";
> $password = "";
> $database = "mysql";
> $conn = mysql_connect($location, $username, $password);
> if (!$conn) die ("Could not connect to MySQL using $location, $username,
> $password\n");
[...]

I would suggest that you use the above code to do the following combination of 
tests:

1) With ZoneAlarm enabled and with it disabled (yes disabled completely, if 
you're worried disconnect from the internet and any other networks)

2) With $location='localhost' and $location='127.0.0.1'

3) With $username='root' and $username='somenormaluser'

That's a total of 12 tests if you're following.

If when you have ZoneAlarm enabled and you can connect with one user and not 
with another (I believe you came across this is a previous post) then show us 
following:

The following should be performed on the 'mysql' database (ie the system 
database which holds all the user related info):


select * from user where User='user_that_can_connect';
select * from db where User='user_that_can_connect';

select * from user where User='user_that_cannot_connect';
select * from db where User='user_that_cannot_connect';

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Re: [PHP] Re: mysql_connect does not connect

[raditha dissanayake]

me thinks it's time to look very closely at http://www.postgresql.org
Not just you sam, all of us.
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Re: [PHP] Re: mysql_connect does not connect

[Sam Hobbs]

"Jason Wong" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message 
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>
> So now are you fully convinced it's your firewall that's the root of your
> problem?

No, not really. At the moment I am assuming it is a bug in something 
somewhere. The versions of php and MySQL that I am using are not fully 
tested. Therefore it is entirely possible that the problem I had is not 
supposed to be a problem.

> 1) How are you connecting using mysql_connect()? Do you use IP addresses 
> or
> hostnames?
> 2) What are your exact connection parameters when connecting as an "admin
> user"?
> 3) What are your exact connection parameters when connecting as an "normal
> user"?


I am not sure how to determine these things, except to say that I am using 
MySQL as it was installed by the "Typical" installation option.

Oh, now I understand better. Sorry. The username "admin" confused me, but I 
should have known.

There is a slight chance I used a different host than "localhost". So to be 
absolutely sure, I will do the tests again when I make a fomal bug report, 
assuming that a bug report is needed. Other than that, I used the following 
for both my Administrator and my non-Administrator accounts:

Could not connect to MySQL using $location, $username, 
$password\n");
print "Connected to MySQL using $location, $username, $password\n";
mysql_select_db($database, $conn) or die ("Could not open 
database\n");
print "Database $database selected.\n";
?>

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Re: [PHP] Re: mysql_connect does not connect

[Jason Davidson]

firewall, who would have thought

Jason Wong <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: 
> 
> On Thursday 16 September 2004 06:14, Sam Hobbs wrote:
> 
> [quote from another Sam Hobbs post]
> > I am the original poster. The reason I avoid doing things like that is
> > because it is a guess. It should not be necessary; the firewal should not
> > be relevant. Sometimes people suggest things that are not likely to be a
> > solution but are easy to suggest.
> [end quote]
> 
> > Apparently there is a problem with the internet being accessed. I tried to
> > determine the problem but it is not clear. What I did to try to diagnose
> > the problem is that I deleted from ZoneAlarm the configuration for the
> > relevant programs. For those not familiar with ZoneAlarm, I essentially
> > removed from it anything it knew about Apache, MySQL and php. I thne tried
> > the
> > mysql_connect, and ZoneAlarm asked if Apache could access the internet.
> > However it behaved differently, depending on whether I was using an account
> > with administrator privileges. If I was using administrator privileges,
> > Apache tried to connect to address 0.0.0.0. If I was not using
> > administrator privileges, Apache tried to connect to the DNS server
> > address. However there are more details so assuming this is a bug I need to
> > coordinate with someone to determine how to diagnose this.
> >
> > By removing Apache, MySQL and php from ZoneAlarm and then allowing Apache
> > to access the internet when I did the mysql_connect, I am able to connect.
> > I assume that this is not how it should be.
> 
> So now are you fully convinced it's your firewall that's the root of your 
> problem?
> 
> 1) How are you connecting using mysql_connect()? Do you use IP addresses or 
> hostnames?
> 2) What are your exact connection parameters when connecting as an "admin 
> user"?
> 3) What are your exact connection parameters when connecting as an "normal 
> user"?
> 
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Re: [PHP] Re: mysql_connect does not connect

[Jason Wong]

On Thursday 16 September 2004 06:14, Sam Hobbs wrote:

[quote from another Sam Hobbs post]
> I am the original poster. The reason I avoid doing things like that is
> because it is a guess. It should not be necessary; the firewal should not
> be relevant. Sometimes people suggest things that are not likely to be a
> solution but are easy to suggest.
[end quote]

> Apparently there is a problem with the internet being accessed. I tried to
> determine the problem but it is not clear. What I did to try to diagnose
> the problem is that I deleted from ZoneAlarm the configuration for the
> relevant programs. For those not familiar with ZoneAlarm, I essentially
> removed from it anything it knew about Apache, MySQL and php. I thne tried
> the
> mysql_connect, and ZoneAlarm asked if Apache could access the internet.
> However it behaved differently, depending on whether I was using an account
> with administrator privileges. If I was using administrator privileges,
> Apache tried to connect to address 0.0.0.0. If I was not using
> administrator privileges, Apache tried to connect to the DNS server
> address. However there are more details so assuming this is a bug I need to
> coordinate with someone to determine how to diagnose this.
>
> By removing Apache, MySQL and php from ZoneAlarm and then allowing Apache
> to access the internet when I did the mysql_connect, I am able to connect.
> I assume that this is not how it should be.

So now are you fully convinced it's your firewall that's the root of your 
problem?

1) How are you connecting using mysql_connect()? Do you use IP addresses or 
hostnames?
2) What are your exact connection parameters when connecting as an "admin 
user"?
3) What are your exact connection parameters when connecting as an "normal 
user"?

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Re: [PHP] Re: mysql_connect does not connect

[Sam Hobbs]

"Andrew Kreps" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message 
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> On Tue, 14 Sep 2004 10:11:24 -0700, Sam Hobbs <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> Also, are the warning messages documented? As I asked in my original
>> question, is 10061 an error code?
>
> 10061 is a generic winsock error for a timeout, it's not PHP or MySQL
> specific.  It means that the call couldn't connect to the socket you
> were trying to hit within the time allowed.

Again, thank you.

Apparently there is a problem with the internet being accessed. I tried to 
determine the problem but it is not clear. What I did to try to diagnose the 
problem is that I deleted from ZoneAlarm the configuration for the relevant 
programs. For those not familiar with ZoneAlarm, I essentially removed from 
it anything it knew about Apache, MySQL and php. I thne tried the 
mysql_connect, and ZoneAlarm asked if Apache could access the internet. 
However it behaved differently, depending on whether I was using an account 
with administrator privileges. If I was using administrator privileges, 
Apache tried to connect to address 0.0.0.0. If I was not using administrator 
privileges, Apache tried to connect to the DNS server address. However there 
are more details so assuming this is a bug I need to coordinate with someone 
to determine how to diagnose this.

By removing Apache, MySQL and php from ZoneAlarm and then allowing Apache to 
access the internet when I did the mysql_connect, I am able to connect. I 
assume that this is not how it should be.

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Re: [PHP] Re: mysql_connect does not connect

[Sam Hobbs]

"Andrew Kreps" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message 
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> On Tue, 14 Sep 2004 10:11:24 -0700, Sam Hobbs <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> Also, are the warning messages documented? As I asked in my original
>> question, is 10061 an error code?
>
> 10061 is a generic winsock error for a timeout, it's not PHP or MySQL
> specific.  It means that the call couldn't connect to the socket you
> were trying to hit within the time allowed.

Thank you; that helps.

So something that might help is for the PHP message to issue a more specific 
message indicating the timeout problem. This is just a suggestion for the 
developers.

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Re: [PHP] Re: mysql_connect does not connect

[Andrew Kreps]

On Tue, 14 Sep 2004 10:11:24 -0700, Sam Hobbs <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Also, are the warning messages documented? As I asked in my original
> question, is 10061 an error code?

10061 is a generic winsock error for a timeout, it's not PHP or MySQL
specific.  It means that the call couldn't connect to the socket you
were trying to hit within the time allowed.

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Re: [PHP] Re: mysql_connect does not connect

[John Nichel]

Sam Hobbs wrote:

When I do try mysqli_connect, I get:
Fatal error:  Call to undefined function mysqli_connect()
So obviously I need to do something to enable that. I will look into that 
later, but I am still trying to get mysql_connect to work.

mysqli : http://us4.php.net/mysqli
What error are you getting with mysql_connect()?
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