Re: [PHP] online detection

2001-04-11 Thread andreas . landmark

On Wed, Apr 11, 2001 at 08:10:22AM +0200, [EMAIL PROTECTED] produced this golden 
nugget:
  Does anyone know how to detect when a user connects to the Internet
  similar
  to ICQ?
 
 I think you mean messages on  pages like "321 user online"!
 As HTTP is a stateless protocol, you can't really know this!!!
 It's only an estimation - and you can use sessions to realize this (ask how
 many sessions are active - and end a session after a short time like 5
 minutes!)
 
 witty

There is a way to do it, _if_ the user is using an IM service, for
icq the easiest way would prolly be to use the icq module for
perl (i don't know whether there is a PHP class for icq), and then
use that to generate your page...

Mirabilis has made it possible to have the little "online" icon
if you like... check out their site for more info...

I dunno whether this is possible for AIM/etc...

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Re: [PHP] online detection

2001-04-11 Thread Christian Reiniger

On Wednesday 11 April 2001 06:23, you wrote:
 Does anyone know how to detect when a user connects to the Internet
 similar to ICQ?

Sure. Three main possibilities:

(1) Install a wire tap at his telephone line, together with some logic to 
detect connection attempts

(2) Do the same, but at his provider's dialin box. (more difficult)

(3) Install a proper trojan on the user's machine

Most criminals use possibility 3 ;-)

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Re: [PHP] online detection

2001-04-11 Thread KPortsmout

In a message dated 11/04/2001 12:58:11 GMT Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
writes:

  Does anyone know how to detect when a user connects to the Internet
  similar to ICQ?
 
 Sure. Three main possibilities:
 
 (1) Install a wire tap at his telephone line, together with some logic to 
 detect connection attempts
 
 (2) Do the same, but at his provider's dialin box. (more difficult)
 
 (3) Install a proper trojan on the user's machine
 
 Most criminals use possibility 3 ;-) 


H I wonder which one ICQ uses :-)

Ade

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Re: [PHP] online detection

2001-04-11 Thread Jason Stechschulte

On Wed, Apr 11, 2001 at 08:00:56AM -0400, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 H I wonder which one ICQ uses :-)

ICQ doesn't detect whether or not a person is online.  It doesn't detect
whether or not a person is browsing the Internet.  All it detects is
whether or not a person is connected to the Internet AND using their
application.  Checking if someone is online is much, much more
difficult.

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Re: [PHP] online detection

2001-04-10 Thread mailing_list

 Does anyone know how to detect when a user connects to the Internet
 similar
 to ICQ?

I think you mean messages on  pages like "321 user online"!
As HTTP is a stateless protocol, you can't really know this!!!
It's only an estimation - and you can use sessions to realize this (ask how
many sessions are active - and end a session after a short time like 5
minutes!)

witty

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