Re: [PHP-DOC] cvs: phpdoc /fr/appendices migration.xml migration4.xml

2001-10-19 Thread Derick Rethans

Hey Damien,

please fix your line-endings! (Didn't you receive the mails from Egon and
me about it?)

Derick

On Thu, 18 Oct 2001, Damien Seguy wrote:

 dams  Thu Oct 18 18:42:08 2001 EDT

   Modified files:
 /phpdoc/fr/appendices migration4.xml migration.xml
   Log:
   Added september update.
   synch with tree


Derick Rethans

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[PHP-DOC] cvs: phpdoc /it/functions bc.xml

2001-10-19 Thread Marco Cucinato

cucinatoFri Oct 19 04:18:42 2001 EDT

  Modified files:  
/phpdoc/it/functionsbc.xml 
  Log:
  added bc italian translation
  
  

Index: phpdoc/it/functions/bc.xml
diff -u /dev/null phpdoc/it/functions/bc.xml:1.7
--- /dev/null   Fri Oct 19 04:18:42 2001
+++ phpdoc/it/functions/bc.xml  Fri Oct 19 04:18:42 2001
@@ -0,0 +1,307 @@
+?xml encoding=iso-8859-1?
+!-- EN-Revision: 1.15 Maintainer: cucinato Status: ready --
+ reference id=ref.bc
+  titleFunzioni Matematiche BCMath a precisione arbitraria/title
+  titleabbrevBC math/titleabbrev
+
+  partintro
+   para
+In PHP 4, queste funzioni sono disponibili solo se PHP egrave; configurato con
+option role=configurelink 
+linkend=install.configure.enable-bcmath--enable-bcmath/link/option.
+In PHP 4, queste funzioni sono disponibili solo se PHP non egrave; configurato 
+con
+option role=configurelink 
+linkend=install.configure.disable-bcmath--disable-bcmath/link/option.
+   /para
+   note
+para
+ A causa di modifiche alla licenza, la liberia BCMATH egrave; distribuita
+ separatamente dalla distribuzione standard dei sorgenti PHP. 
+ Egrave; posibile scaricare  l'archivio tar-gzippato presso la url:
+ ulink url=url.bcmath;url.bcmath;/ulink.  Vedere il
+ file filenameREADME.BCMATH/filename nella distribuzione di PHP
+ per ulteriori informazioni.
+/para
+   /note
+  /partintro
+
+  refentry id=function.bcadd
+   refnamediv
+refnamebcadd/refname
+refpurposeSomma due numeri a precisione arbitraria/refpurpose
+   /refnamediv
+   refsect1
+titleDescrizione/title
+funcsynopsis
+ funcprototype
+  funcdefstring functionbcadd/function/funcdef
+  paramdefstring parameterprimo operando/parameter/paramdef
+  paramdefstring parametersecondo operando/parameter/paramdef
+  paramdefint 
+   parameteroptionalprecisione/optional/parameter
+  /paramdef
+ /funcprototype
+/funcsynopsis
+para
+ Somma il parameterprimo operando/parameter con il
+ parametersecondo operando/parameter e restituisce la somma sotto forma di
+ stringa. Il parametro opzionale parameterprecisione/parameter egrave;
+ utilizzato per impostare il numero di cifre dopo il punto decimale nel
+ risultato.
+/para
+para
+ Vedere anche functionbcsub/function.
+/para
+   /refsect1
+  /refentry
+
+  refentry id=function.bccomp
+   refnamediv
+refnamebccomp/refname
+refpurposeConfronta due numeri a precisione arbitraria/refpurpose
+   /refnamediv
+   refsect1
+titleDescrizione/title
+funcsynopsis
+ funcprototype
+  funcdefint functionbccomp/function/funcdef
+  paramdefstring parameterprimo operand/parameter/paramdef
+  paramdefstring parametersecondo operand/parameter/paramdef
+  paramdefint 
+   parameteroptionalprecisione/optional/parameter
+  /paramdef
+ /funcprototype
+/funcsynopsis
+para
+ Confronta il parameterprimo operando/parameter e il
+ parametersecondo operando/parameter e restituisce il risultato sotto forma di
+ intero. Il parametro opzionale parameterprecisione/parameter egrave;
+ utilizzato per impostare il numero di cifre dopo il punto decimale che
+ verranno usate nel confronto.  Il valore restituito grave; 0 se i due
+ operandi sono uguali. Se il parameterprimo operando/parameter
+ egrave; piugrave; grande del parametersecondo operando/parameter il
+ valore restituito egrave; +1 e se il parameterprimo operando/parameter
+ egrave; minore del parametersecondo operando/parameter il valore restituito
+ egrave; -1.
+/para
+   /refsect1
+  /refentry
+
+  refentry id=function.bcdiv
+   refnamediv
+refnamebcdiv/refname
+refpurposeDivide due numeri a precisione arbitraria/refpurpose
+   /refnamediv
+   refsect1
+titleDescrizione/title
+funcsynopsis
+ funcprototype
+  funcdefstring functionbcdiv/function/funcdef
+  paramdefstring parameterprimo operando/parameter/paramdef
+  paramdefstring parametersecondo operando/parameter/paramdef
+  paramdefint 
+   parameteroptionalprecisione/optional/parameter
+  /paramdef
+ /funcprototype
+/funcsynopsis
+para
+ Divide il parameterprimo operando/parameter per il
+ parametersecondo operando/parameter e restituisce il risultato. Il
+ parametro opzionale parameterprecisione/parameter imposta il numero di cifre
+ dopo il punto decimale nel risultato.
+/para
+para
+ Vedere anche functionbcmul/function.
+/para
+   /refsect1
+  /refentry
+
+  refentry id=function.bcmod
+   refnamediv
+refnamebcmod/refname
+refpurpose
+ Ricava il modulo di un numero a precisione arbitraria
+/refpurpose
+   /refnamediv
+   refsect1
+titleDescrizione/title
+funcsynopsis
+ funcprototype
+  funcdefstring functionbcmod/function/funcdef
+  paramdefstring parameteroperando/parameter/paramdef
+  

[PHP-DOC] cvs: phpdoc /it Translators

2001-10-19 Thread Marco Cucinato

cucinatoFri Oct 19 04:26:42 2001 EDT

  Modified files:  
/phpdoc/it  Translators 
  Log:
  Updated
  
  
Index: phpdoc/it/Translators
diff -u phpdoc/it/Translators:1.56 phpdoc/it/Translators:1.57
--- phpdoc/it/Translators:1.56  Sun Oct  7 05:46:45 2001
+++ phpdoc/it/Translators   Fri Oct 19 04:26:41 2001
@@ -78,8 +78,8 @@
 apache.xml baldo   A
 array.xml  cucinatoT1.102
 aspell.xml cucinatoT1.16
-bc.xml cucinatoA1.15
-bzip2.xml  
+bc.xml cucinatoT1.15
+bzip2.xml  cucinatoA1.10
 calendar.xml
 ccvs.xml
 classobj.xml





[PHP-DOC] cvs: phpdoc /it Translators

2001-10-19 Thread Luca Perugini

peruginiFri Oct 19 05:09:01 2001 EDT

  Modified files:  
/phpdoc/it  Translators 
  Log:
  Added appendices/commandline.xml
  
  
Index: phpdoc/it/Translators
diff -u phpdoc/it/Translators:1.57 phpdoc/it/Translators:1.58
--- phpdoc/it/Translators:1.57  Fri Oct 19 04:26:41 2001
+++ phpdoc/it/Translators   Fri Oct 19 05:09:01 2001
@@ -49,6 +49,7 @@
 variables.xml  baldo   A1.15
 --- appendices --
 aliases.xmlperuginiT1.12
+commandline.xml
 debugger.xml   peruginiA   
 escaping.xml
 history.xmlperuginiT1.5





Re: [PHP-DOC] hebrew translation ?

2001-10-19 Thread shlomi loubaton



 On October 16, 2001 05:03 am, Hojtsy Gabor wrote:
   Hi Shlomi,
  
   You should write to the PHP Documentation team
   ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) - they can provide you
   with more information.
   Good Luck! :)
 
  This was exactly what he has done :))

silly me ... :)

 
  Goba

 :) sheepish grin For some reason, I thought that this was PHP
 webmaster mail. Yikes. :)

for some reason , i didn't notice this too 


anyway , 10x for the help .
few last question (maybe) :

in the READMEs i read that i should check if my language is supported by
docbook  stylesheets :

b) Have you made sure that your language or glyph (lettering, font,
or characters) is supported by the docbook stylesheets?

where can i do that ?
if it's not supported , what do i do ? write my own stylesheets ?

hebrew is a right to left lang . is that a problem ?
there are two main standarts for writing hebrew :
iso-visual : iso 8859-8
logical : 1252
does it matter what i use ? i like better the logical .. it's less
problematic ...

Regards
Shlomi Loubaton
---
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
[EMAIL PROTECTED]






Re: [PHP-DOC] hebrew translation ?

2001-10-19 Thread Jirka Kosek

Shlomi Loubaton wrote:

 in the READMEs i read that i should check if my language is supported by
 "docbook"  stylesheets :
 "
 b) Have you made sure that your language or glyph (lettering, font,
 or characters) is supported by the docbook stylesheets?
 "
 where can i do that ?
 if it's not supported , what do i do ? write my own stylesheets ?

You can ask at DocBook Applications list
[EMAIL PROTECTED]. Maybe there will be some user
experienced with using hebrew with DocBook
 
 hebrew is a right to left lang . is that a problem ?
 there are two main standarts for writing hebrew :
 iso-visual : iso 8859-8
 logical : 1252
 does it matter what i use ? i like better the logical .. it's less
 problematic ...

You should check if Jade a JadeTeX are able to handle these encodings
and RTL text-flow.

-
  Jirka Kosek
  e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  http://www.kosek.cz



[PHP-DOC] cvs: phpdoc /en/functions array.xml

2001-10-19 Thread Hartmut Holzgraefe

hholzgraFri Oct 19 06:47:17 2001 EDT

  Modified files:  
/phpdoc/en/functionsarray.xml 
  Log:
  small clarification regarding each() and reset()
  
  
Index: phpdoc/en/functions/array.xml
diff -u phpdoc/en/functions/array.xml:1.105 phpdoc/en/functions/array.xml:1.106
--- phpdoc/en/functions/array.xml:1.105 Wed Oct 17 17:17:35 2001
+++ phpdoc/en/functions/array.xml   Fri Oct 19 06:47:17 2001
@@ -1,5 +1,5 @@
 ?xml encoding=iso-8859-1?
-!-- $Revision: 1.105 $ --
+!-- $Revision: 1.106 $ --
  reference id=ref.array
   titleArray Functions/title
   titleabbrevArrays/titleabbrev
@@ -2057,7 +2057,9 @@
 para
  After functioneach/function has executed, the array cursor
  will be left on the next element of the array, or on the last
- element if it hits the end of the array.
+ element if it hits the end of the array. You have to use
+ functionreset/function if you want to traverse the array
+ again using each.
 /para
 para
  See also functionkey/function, functionlist/function,





[PHP-DOC] cvs: phpdoc /en/appendices commandline.xml

2001-10-19 Thread Damien Seguy

damsFri Oct 19 11:02:38 2001 EDT

  Modified files:  
/phpdoc/en/appendices   commandline.xml 
  Log:
  no message
  
Index: phpdoc/en/appendices/commandline.xml
diff -u phpdoc/en/appendices/commandline.xml:1.1 
phpdoc/en/appendices/commandline.xml:1.2
--- phpdoc/en/appendices/commandline.xml:1.1Sun Oct 14 09:19:12 2001
+++ phpdoc/en/appendices/commandline.xmlFri Oct 19 11:02:37 2001
@@ -1,5 +1,5 @@
 ?xml encoding=iso-8859-1?
-!-- $Revision: 1.1 $ --
+!-- $Revision: 1.2 $ --
 !-- 
TODO:

@@ -20,7 +20,7 @@
   different purpose than web scripting.
  /para
  para
-  Note, that you can allways direct the output of the PHP
+  Note, that you can always direct the output of the PHP
   executable to an external file with the gt; character,
   so literalphp -q test.php  test.html/literal will
   print out the output of filenametest.php/filename
@@ -78,7 +78,7 @@
  row
   entry-q/entry
   entry
-   Suppress HTTP headers output. Normally PHP prints out
+   Suppress HTTP headers output. Normaly PHP prints out
HTTP headers for the calling program (ie. webserver)
to hand on to the browser. When writing command line
applications these headers are useless.
@@ -215,7 +215,7 @@
   In the program above we checked if there are less or more than one
   arguments. Also if the argument was literal--help/literal,
   literal-help/literal, literal-h/literal or literal-?/literal,
-  we printed out the help message, printng the script name dynamically.
+  we printed out the help message, printing the script name dynamically.
   If we received some other argument we echoed that out.
  /para
  para





[PHP-DOC] cvs: phpdoc /en/appendices commandline.xml

2001-10-19 Thread Damien Seguy

damsFri Oct 19 11:08:49 2001 EDT

  Modified files:  
/phpdoc/en/appendices   commandline.xml 
  Log:
  Correcting my own mistakes =D
  
Index: phpdoc/en/appendices/commandline.xml
diff -u phpdoc/en/appendices/commandline.xml:1.2 
phpdoc/en/appendices/commandline.xml:1.3
--- phpdoc/en/appendices/commandline.xml:1.2Fri Oct 19 11:02:37 2001
+++ phpdoc/en/appendices/commandline.xmlFri Oct 19 11:08:49 2001
@@ -1,5 +1,5 @@
 ?xml encoding=iso-8859-1?
-!-- $Revision: 1.2 $ --
+!-- $Revision: 1.3 $ --
 !-- 
TODO:

@@ -78,7 +78,7 @@
  row
   entry-q/entry
   entry
-   Suppress HTTP headers output. Normaly PHP prints out
+   Suppress HTTP headers output. Normally PHP prints out
HTTP headers for the calling program (ie. webserver)
to hand on to the browser. When writing command line
applications these headers are useless.





[PHP-DOC] RFC

2001-10-19 Thread Hartmut Holzgraefe


i have just uploaded the draft for the 'beyond' part of my conference
talk The manual and beyond to

   http://zugeschaut-und-mitgebaut.de/php/conference-talk.pdf

comments  suggestions are highly appreciated :)

-- 
Hartmut Holzgraefe  [EMAIL PROTECTED]  http://www.six.de  +49-711-99091-77






Re: [PHP-DOC] RFC

2001-10-19 Thread Hojtsy Gabor

 i have just uploaded the draft for the 'beyond' part of my conference
 talk The manual and beyond to
 
http://zugeschaut-und-mitgebaut.de/php/conference-talk.pdf
 
 comments  suggestions are highly appreciated :)

You should speak about

 - the problem of entities (global.ent) as used in some old
   translations and the main tree (deletes can make unbuildable manuals)

 - Jouni suggested to split up installation.xml also, as it is
   a hube beast now, and it is impossible to start the translation
   and finish it in a reasonable time (the same as with function
   files, mixed language). That is the most huge part, and there
   are some semi-sections (eg. Servers- prefix of titles), which
   are ugly IMHO, but with the current system, we can't do anything.

 - Extending docbook with namespaces. Also with drawbacks (design
   validity testing and other problems mentioned by Jirka).

After reading the pdf through these things seemed to be
important. Maybe more will come into my mind in the future.

Goba




Re: [PHP-DOC] RFC

2001-10-19 Thread Jouni Ahto



On Fri, 19 Oct 2001, Hartmut Holzgraefe wrote:

 
 i have just uploaded the draft for the 'beyond' part of my conference
 talk The manual and beyond to
 
http://zugeschaut-und-mitgebaut.de/php/conference-talk.pdf
 
 comments  suggestions are highly appreciated :)

I really like the part 'Maybe its time to get invloved [typos not fixed]
into the DocBook project itself, [...]' (Jirka actually is doing exactly
that). If DocBook can't satisfy a programming projects' needs, someone is
not modeling something the right way. Currently, I refuse to have any
opinions about whether it's us or the team that defines DocBook.

-- Jouni
  




[PHP-DOC] cvs: phpdoc /it/functions array.xml

2001-10-19 Thread Marco Cucinato

cucinatoFri Oct 19 13:39:17 2001 EDT

  Modified files:  
/phpdoc/it/functionsarray.xml 
  Log:
  small clarification regarding each() and reset()
  
  
Index: phpdoc/it/functions/array.xml
diff -u phpdoc/it/functions/array.xml:1.19 phpdoc/it/functions/array.xml:1.20
--- phpdoc/it/functions/array.xml:1.19  Thu Oct 18 09:25:50 2001
+++ phpdoc/it/functions/array.xml   Fri Oct 19 13:39:17 2001
@@ -1,5 +1,5 @@
 ?xml encoding=iso-8859-1?
- !-- EN-Revision: 1.105 Maintainer: cucinato  Status: ready --
+ !-- EN-Revision: 1.106 Maintainer: cucinato  Status: ready --
  reference id=ref.array
   titleFunzioni di Array/title
   titleabbrevArrays/titleabbrev
@@ -2057,7 +2057,9 @@
 para
  Dopo l'esecuzione di functioneach/function, il puntatore dell'array
  viene lasciato sull'elemento successivo, o sull'ultimo
- elemento se si egrave; alla fine dell'array.
+ elemento se si egrave; alla fine dell'array. Si deve utilizzare
+ functionreset/function se si vuole riattraversare l'array
+ usando functioneach/function.
 /para
 para
  Vedere anche functionkey/function, functionlist/function,





Re: [PHP-DOC] RFC

2001-10-19 Thread Egon Schmid


- Original Message -
From: Hojtsy Gabor [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Hartmut Holzgraefe [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, October 19, 2001 7:05 PM
Subject: Re: [PHP-DOC] RFC


  i have just uploaded the draft for the 'beyond' part of my
conference
  talk The manual and beyond to
 
 http://zugeschaut-und-mitgebaut.de/php/conference-talk.pdf
 
  comments  suggestions are highly appreciated :)

 You should speak about

  - the problem of entities (global.ent) as used in some old
translations and the main tree (deletes can make unbuildable
manuals)

If you speak from old translations, so translate the other languages
yourself.

  - Extending docbook with namespaces. Also with drawbacks (design
validity testing and other problems mentioned by Jirka).

I have said that extending DocBook is not allwowed.

 After reading the pdf through these things seemed to be
 important. Maybe more will come into my mind in the future.

I hope I can talk with Hartmut tomorrow about this PDF on our PHP
user meeting in Stuttgart.

-Egon




Re: [PHP-DOC] RFC

2001-10-19 Thread Hojtsy Gabor

OK, it seems my words were not clear. So rewording.

   - the problem of entities (global.ent) as used in some old
 translations and the main tree (deletes can make unbuildable
 manuals)
 
 If you speak from old translations, so translate the other languages
 yourself.

It is not that I would like to do all the translations. This
is a problem (like the translation of function files), that need
to be mentioned. This is not a negative grading of translators
working on some xml files. It is a fact, that this is a problem.
Please _do not_ see this as an attack. There are problems with those
entities and so with links to nonexistent XML ids. These are
problems that should be discussed.

   - Extending docbook with namespaces. Also with drawbacks (design
 validity testing and other problems mentioned by Jirka).
 
 I have said that extending DocBook is not allwowed.

So reworded: using namespaces to define tags, and use them
along DocBook tags. This is exaclty not extending DocBook,
but defining a DTD for our custom elements and use those
two DTDs (DocBook and PHPDoc) side-by-side.

Although I am __not__ speaking of extending DocBook,
there is a chapter about Customizing DocBook, in
DocBook: The definitive Guide. This customizing is what
Jirka is talking about. So for DocBook it is allowed.

It is our job to decide, whether we choose customizing
or another way. I am against customizing DocBook this
way, so we are on the same side (and so Hartmut, as
I can see in this PDF).

Goba




Re: [PHP-DOC] RFC

2001-10-19 Thread Egon Schmid

From: Hojtsy Gabor [EMAIL PROTECTED]

- the problem of entities (global.ent) as used in some old
  translations and the main tree (deletes can make
unbuildable
  manuals)
 
  If you speak from old translations, so translate the other
languages
  yourself.

 It is not that I would like to do all the translations. This
 is a problem (like the translation of function files), that need
 to be mentioned. This is not a negative grading of translators
 working on some xml files. It is a fact, that this is a problem.
 Please _do not_ see this as an attack. There are problems with
those
 entities and so with links to nonexistent XML ids. These are
 problems that should be discussed.

Oh I see, you have understand my problem.

- Extending docbook with namespaces. Also with drawbacks
(design
  validity testing and other problems mentioned by Jirka).
 
  I have said that extending DocBook is not allwowed.

 So reworded: using namespaces to define tags, and use them
 along DocBook tags. This is exaclty not extending DocBook,
 but defining a DTD for our custom elements and use those
 two DTDs (DocBook and PHPDoc) side-by-side.

This may be a misinformation. With tags I am always reffering to
elements. Please don´t touch them. Customization is another deal.

 Although I am __not__ speaking of extending DocBook,
 there is a chapter about Customizing DocBook, in
 DocBook: The definitive Guide. This customizing is what
 Jirka is talking about. So for DocBook it is allowed.

I know that :) But what will do the rest of the committeres all over
this world?

 It is our job to decide, whether we choose customizing
 or another way. I am against customizing DocBook this
 way, so we are on the same side (and so Hartmut, as
 I can see in this PDF).

What do you mean with our?

-Egon




Re: [PHP-DOC] RFC

2001-10-19 Thread Hojtsy Gabor

  So reworded: using namespaces to define tags, and use them
  along DocBook tags. This is exaclty not extending DocBook,
  but defining a DTD for our custom elements and use those
  two DTDs (DocBook and PHPDoc) side-by-side.

 This may be a misinformation. With tags I am always reffering to
 elements. Please don´t touch them. Customization is another deal.

The Customizing DocBook section also deals with adding tags,
to the DocBook DTD as I can remember.
http://www.docbook.org/tdg/en/html/ch05.html#ch05-addelem

I do not want to touch DocBook elements, nor customize
DocBook this way. I said we maybe can make another DTD,
with only defining our own tags, we would like to use
along side by side with DocBook. As Jirka mentioned, this
would not be too good as a design decision, and the files
can get impossible to validate, so this is not the way
today. Then the only thing left for me is to use the role=
attribute for some custom usage.

I do not want to modify the DocBook DTD.

  Although I am __not__ speaking of extending DocBook,
  there is a chapter about Customizing DocBook, in
  DocBook: The definitive Guide. This customizing is what
  Jirka is talking about. So for DocBook it is allowed.

 I know that :) But what will do the rest of the
 committeres all over this world?

As Jirka said, as long as they use the DocBook DTDs
from the phpdoc repositories dbxml directory, they can
use tags added there. For other tools not dependant
on this directory, there would be much-much more
problems. There are some (IMHO not so elegant) solutions
posted by Jirka, and I can understand what he is saying,
but I do not like adding tags this way.

  It is our job to decide, whether we choose customizing
  or another way. I am against customizing DocBook this
  way, so we are on the same side (and so Hartmut, as
  I can see in this PDF).

 What do you mean with our?

The member of the PHP Documentation Team. I use this
wording as the people who are working in phpdoc, not
just those listed on the frontpage.

From now on in this letter, I will use we as
you Egon and me.

IMHO generally we are talking about the same things.
We do not want to add tags to DocBook into the DTD,
because several reasons. Some of these reasons are
technical, some of these are just opinions. We do
want to keep the XML files validateable.

Goba




Re: [PHP-DOC] RFC

2001-10-19 Thread Jouni Ahto



On Fri, 19 Oct 2001, Egon Schmid wrote:

 From: Hojtsy Gabor [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
  So reworded: using namespaces to define tags, and use them
  along DocBook tags. This is exaclty not extending DocBook,
  but defining a DTD for our custom elements and use those
  two DTDs (DocBook and PHPDoc) side-by-side.
 
 This may be a misinformation. With tags I am always reffering to
 elements. Please don´t touch them. Customization is another deal.

Just to note: we are actually not using any official DocBook... manual.xml
says:

!DOCTYPE book PUBLIC -//Norman Walsh//DTD DocBk XML V1.7//EN
  ./dbxml/docbookx.dtd [... etc

, then,  phpdoc/dbxml/docbookx.dtd starts with:

!-- DocBk XML V3.1.7 DTD
 Copyright (C) 1998, 1999 Norman Walsh
 http://nwalsh.com/docbook/xml/

 See COPYRIGHT for more information

 Please direct all questions and comments about this DTD to
 Norman Walsh, [EMAIL PROTECTED].

--

And then, when I went and poked around at http://www.docbook.org/, found
this:

XML

DocBook XML 4.1.2 is the current XML version of DocBook. There are no
official XML versions of DocBook prior to V4.0.


Maybe it should be the time to find out what the current DTD actually is,
and what it allows us to do? 

-- Jouni





Re: [PHP-DOC] RFC

2001-10-19 Thread Hartmut Holzgraefe

Hojtsy Gabor wrote:

 These are problems that should be discussed.


thats exactly the reason for me writing the PDF

almost everything i mention in there has already been talked
about on this list in some way without much work going on on it
so i tried to summarize the identified problems and the possible
solutions


 So reworded: using namespaces to define tags, and use them
 along DocBook tags. This is exaclty not extending DocBook,
 but defining a DTD for our custom elements and use those
 two DTDs (DocBook and PHPDoc) side-by-side.


this topic came up after i had finished my first draft so
it is not mentioned yet, but it definetly should be in there

 
 Although I am __not__ speaking of extending DocBook,
 there is a chapter about Customizing DocBook, in
 DocBook: The definitive Guide. This customizing is what
 Jirka is talking about. So for DocBook it is allowed.


if we wouldn't mind cutting us off of other DocBook
aware environments we could customize whatever we want
we distribute the DTD anyway and the extensibility of
the modular stylesheets allow as much costomization
as we want to have

we would have to call it something else but DocBook
then, maybe PHPBook or so

but as soon as we start changing the DTD it would
probably become sort of pandoras box getting more and
more a thing of its own ...

 
 It is our job to decide, whether we choose customizing
 or another way. I am against customizing DocBook this
 way, so we are on the same side (and so Hartmut, as
 I can see in this PDF).
 
well, i tried to stay somehow neutral in this text,

but customizing DocBook definetly comes for a price
so the benefits we would gain from customizing
do not compensate this for now IMHO







Re: [PHP-DOC] RFC

2001-10-19 Thread Hojtsy Gabor

 !DOCTYPE book PUBLIC -//Norman Walsh//DTD DocBk XML V1.7//EN
   ./dbxml/docbookx.dtd [... etc

 !-- DocBk XML V3.1.7 DTD
  Copyright (C) 1998, 1999 Norman Walsh
  http://nwalsh.com/docbook/xml/
 
  See COPYRIGHT for more information
 
  Please direct all questions and comments about this DTD to
  Norman Walsh, [EMAIL PROTECTED].
 
 --

 DocBook XML 4.1.2 is the current XML version of DocBook. There are no
 official XML versions of DocBook prior to V4.0.
 
 Maybe it should be the time to find out what the current DTD actually is,
 and what it allows us to do? 

If we use 4.1.2 the official PUBLIC name for it is:

 -//OASIS//DTD DocBook XML V4.1.2//EN

As projected in docbook.cat in the 4.1.2 package. So it is somewhat
different than any other PUBLIC names, or DTDs we use. What a mess
discovered! :)

Goba




Re: [PHP-DOC] RFC

2001-10-19 Thread Hartmut Holzgraefe

Jouni Ahto wrote:

 Maybe it should be the time to find out what the current DTD actually is,
 and what it allows us to do? 


very good point!
(i was always refereing to the book which is for V3.1.x AFAIR)





Re: [PHP-DOC] RFC

2001-10-19 Thread Jirka Kosek

Hojtsy Gabor wrote:

 As Jirka said, as long as they use the DocBook DTDs
 from the phpdoc repositories dbxml directory, they can
 use tags added there. For other tools not dependant
 on this directory, there would be much-much more
 problems. There are some (IMHO not so elegant) solutions

I think that all tools are using DTD in dbxml directory because
manual.xml starts with rather strange DOCTYPE:

!DOCTYPE book PUBLIC "-//Norman Walsh//DTD DocBk XML V1.7//EN"
  "./dbxml/docbookx.dtd" [

FPI "-//Norman Walsh//DTD DocBk XML V1.7//EN" is referring to early
Norm's play with transfering DocBook DTD from SGML to XML. Official FPI
for DocBook XML DTD is

-//OASIS//DTD DocBook XML V4.1.2//EN

This should be changed. I don't expect that anyone would have earlier
mentioned FPI in his catalog, so customizing DTD in dbxml directory
shouldn't intact any processing tool. 

And please remember, I'm not suggesting you to customize nor not
customize DTD. I just want to tell you, that customizing DTD doesn't
bring as many troubles as you may think. 

BTW: From the lawyer's perspective of view, we are not using DocBook
because currently used FPI is broken and doesn't associate with only
official DocBook from OASIS. ;))

Jirka

-
  Jirka Kosek
  e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  http://www.kosek.cz



Re: [PHP-DOC] RFC

2001-10-19 Thread Jirka Kosek

Jouni Ahto wrote:

 I really like the part 'Maybe its time to get invloved [typos not fixed]
 into the DocBook project itself, [...]' (Jirka actually is doing exactly
 that). If DocBook can't satisfy a programming projects' needs, someone is
 not modeling something the right way. Currently, I refuse to have any
 opinions about whether it's us or the team that defines DocBook.

There is a standard way to request new feature for DocBook. You can
submit new request at:

https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?atid=384107group_id=21935func=browse

But note that DocBook process is quite slow. Changes in DTD must be
announced at least one major version before they are really implemented.
So proposalf for something wouldn't be part of DocBook before version
6.0 (I don't think that this version would be published earlier than two
years from now). So if there is a realy strong need for some new
elements or small change in content models, customizing DTD is only way
to do it now and in near future.

Jirka  

-
  Jirka Kosek
  e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  http://www.kosek.cz



Re: [PHP-DOC] RFC

2001-10-19 Thread Jouni Ahto



On Fri, 19 Oct 2001, Hartmut Holzgraefe wrote:

 Jouni Ahto wrote:
 
  Maybe it should be the time to find out what the current DTD actually is,
  and what it allows us to do? 
 
 
 very good point!
 (i was always refereing to the book which is for V3.1.x AFAIR)

Besides, even if there's a clear need to change something, there's always
the possibility of getting it accepted in the official version. See

http://www.docbook.org/rfe/index.html
http://sourceforge.net/tracker/?atid=384107group_id=21935func=browse

-- Jouni





Re: [PHP-DOC] RFC

2001-10-19 Thread Jirka Kosek

Hartmut Holzgraefe wrote:
 
 Jouni Ahto wrote:
 
  Maybe it should be the time to find out what the current DTD actually is,
  and what it allows us to do?
 
 very good point!
 (i was always refereing to "the book" which is for V3.1.x AFAIR)

New version of TDG has actualised reference part for DocBook 4.1.2:

http://www.docbook.org/tdg/en/html/docbook.html



-
  Jirka Kosek
  e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  http://www.kosek.cz



[PHP-DOC] Bug #12863 Updated: what does pg_freeresult return?

2001-10-19 Thread sander

ID: 12863
Updated by: sander
Reported By: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Old Status: Open
Status: Analyzed
Bug Type: Documentation problem
Operating System: 
PHP Version: 4.0.6
New Comment:

I think (according to the source) it returns TRUE on success, FALSE on error.

Can someone confirm this, and add it to the docs?

Previous Comments:


[2001-08-20 12:54:06] [EMAIL PROTECTED]

The doc page for pg_freeresult does not state what the significance of the int return 
value is.





Edit this bug report at http://bugs.php.net/?id=12863edit=1