Re: Installation issues

[Henrik Sarvell]

Hi Lawrence, I have no idea, I have never installed the dist version.

I usually install like at the bottom of this article:
http://picolisp.com/wiki/?Websockets

On Fri, Feb 13, 2015 at 2:39 PM, Lawrence Bottorff borg...@gmail.com
wrote:

 Is this different from the distribution version? BTW, the dist version
 doesn't seem to have a customize - mode variable for the picolisp exe or
 for pil. Again, the default seems to be /usr/bin/pil . How do I override
 this?

Re: Installation issues

[Henrik Sarvell]

Hi Alexis, if I google picolisp emacs I see the following URL as the #1
result: https://github.com/tj64/picolisp-mode

That is what I use when I code PL in Emacs, works great! I've added a few
keywords to the mode and the doc jumping in my init.el, could post both
changes here if anyone is interested.



On Fri, Feb 13, 2015 at 1:05 AM, Alexis flexibe...@gmail.com wrote:


 andr...@itship.ch writes:

  @Alexis: Just have a look into lib/el/ in your picolisp installation.


 i'm on Debian Wheezy(+updates), and having installed the available
 PicoLisp package (3.1.0.7-1), couldn't see any .el files within the
 PicoLisp directory (/usr/share/picolisp/), which doesn't have a /lib or
 /lib/el directory either. However, having downloaded the 3.1.9 tarball and
 unpacked it, i can now see the files you're talking about.

 Have i missed in the documentation where support for editing in Emacs is
 mentioned? From:

 http://picolisp.com/wiki/?Documentation

 i can't see any mention of it in any of:

 * Manual Page
 * Reference Manual
 * Common Index
 * README
 * INSTALL
 or
 * FAQ

 ...

  Maybe your efforts aren't really necessary (but surely a good exercise
 anyway).
 ...
 Maybe you should rename your emacs extensions, so it doesn't get mixed up
 with the one coming with the picolisp standard distribution.


 Well, if i'd known that Emacs support was already available, i wouldn't
 have written my package in the first place! i already maintain a couple of
 other Emacs packages, and have lots of other coding i'd like to be doing,
 so i only worked on my PicoLisp package to help myself and other Emacs
 users, rather than to learn about writing and/or packaging Emacs Lisp - the
 package as it currently stands didn't require extensive knowledge of
 PicoLisp.

 Now that i know comprehensive Emacs support for PicoLisp is available,
 i'll probably just remove my own PicoLisp package from MELPA. The only
 thing that my package provides that the distribution package doesn't - as
 far as i can tell! - is support for showing documentation for the symbol at
 point, either in a browser or in Emacs itself. i'd be happy for my code for
 that to be added to the distribution package, assuming i don't have to sign
 any paperwork to do so 



 Alexis.
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Re: Installation issues

[Alexis]

Henrik Sarvell writes:

Hi Alexis, if I google picolisp emacs I see the following URL 
as the #1 result: https://github.com/tj64/picolisp-mode


That is what I use when I code PL in Emacs, works great!


Excellent. :-) However, that code hasn't been updated for over 2 
years, and since i've had a few bad experiences recently with 
unmaintained code (bug reports and pull requests ignored, even by 
people still definitely actively coding), i'd rather not develop a 
workflow that relies on such code.


Having said that, to me it also demonstrates that the presence of 
PicoLisp support in the standard distribution should be noted on 
the PicoLisp site itself. Although - is `picolisp.el` actively 
maintained?  Possible copyright issues aside, would proposed 
patches be reviewed / accepted?



Alexis.
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