Re: org-mode with picolisp

[Thorsten Jolitz]

Yes, and I added eedit.l to picolisp iirc, so one could chose between vim
and emacs keybindings in the repl line editor.
Inferior-picolisp.el is responsable for the picolisp repl in Emacs, so when
starting it the user could choose between the 2 editing styles.
You don't necessary see that repl in your org-mode file with a picolisp
src-block, but it's there in the background, therefore the error.

I think they are not needed anymore. I cannot test it right now, but when
those lines are outcommented in the .el files, it might work (then using
readline library for line editing in the repl in emacs, just like in
standalone picolisp).

Am Mi., 30. Nov. 2022 um 22:48 Uhr schrieb Alexander Burger <
a...@software-lab.de>:

> On Wed, Nov 30, 2022 at 03:25:31PM -0600, Galaxy Being wrote:
> > The old picolisp file structure had ~/.../lib/edit.l and .../lib/el which
> > is no longer the case. That functionality went somewhere else? And yet
> both
>
> lib/edit.l was an in-memory editor for symbols in pil64, which called Vim
> internally. It is now obsolete, as this functionality is handled by Vip
> (the
> built-in Vi-style editor) in pil21.
>
> It is strange that lib/edit.l is loaded at all. Org-Mode should not care
> about
> it, and lib/edit.l is loaded at start-up by pil64, but never by pil21.
>
> lib/el/ is no longer part of the distro in pil21 to keep things small. It
> should
> probably better be made a separate tarball or repo.
>
> ☺/ A!ex
>
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Re: org-mode with picolisp

[Alexander Burger]

On Wed, Nov 30, 2022 at 03:25:31PM -0600, Galaxy Being wrote:
> The old picolisp file structure had ~/.../lib/edit.l and .../lib/el which
> is no longer the case. That functionality went somewhere else? And yet both

lib/edit.l was an in-memory editor for symbols in pil64, which called Vim
internally. It is now obsolete, as this functionality is handled by Vip (the
built-in Vi-style editor) in pil21.

It is strange that lib/edit.l is loaded at all. Org-Mode should not care about
it, and lib/edit.l is loaded at start-up by pil64, but never by pil21.

lib/el/ is no longer part of the distro in pil21 to keep things small. It should
probably better be made a separate tarball or repo.

☺/ A!ex

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Re: org-mode with picolisp

[Galaxy Being]

The old picolisp file structure had ~/.../lib/edit.l and .../lib/el which
is no longer the case. That functionality went somewhere else? And yet both
the melpa plist-mode and the tj64/picolisp-mode have inferior-plist.el and
inferior-picolisp.el respectively which refer to edit.l -- again, not there
anymore. This is no doubt the whole issue. For example in
picolisp-mode/inferior-picolisp.el

..(defvar picolisp-emacs-as-editor-p nil
  "If non-nil, use `eedit.l' instead of `edit.l'.")...

(typo?) and

.. (if picolisp-emacs-as-editor-p
 (cons "@lib/eedit.l" (cdr cmdlist))
   (cons "@lib/edit.l" (cdr cmdlist)) ) ) ) )...

(typo?) appears in both inferior*.el files. I don't know what this is about
or what the new way of doing it might be.

On Wed, Nov 30, 2022 at 3:02 PM Thorsten Jolitz  wrote:

> Hi,
> I'm more or less responsable for PicoLisp in org-mode.
>
> Before diving any deeper, note the readme of GitHub -
> flexibeast/plisp-mode: PicoLisp support for Emacs
>  :
> "The plisp-mode in this package has been built from scratch, and is not
> based on, nor connected with, the PicoLisp support for Emacs provided in the
> PicoLisp distribution , or the more
> recently updated version of that support
> . At this stage, the main
> advantages provided by this package are [...]"
>
> So you are actually in unsupported territory there, the original
> picolisp-mode which was used for ob-picolisp is this:
> GitHub - tj64/picolisp-mode: GNU Emacs mode for PicoLisp programming
> 
>
> I don't think that ob-picolisp cares about pil64 or pil21, most likely the
> problems you see are related to plisp-mode itself.
> Maybe try the original mode standalone, and if that works, try it with
> org-mode.
>
> plisp-mode was developed by someone else, and I don't know if it was ever
> used "in production".
> Cheers
> Thorsten
>
>
>
> Am Mi., 30. Nov. 2022 um 16:47 Uhr schrieb Galaxy Being  >:
>
>> The problem might be with plisp-mode. It gives the same error (on "send
>> definition and go" i.e., start REPL and hand code off to it), and I think
>> ob-picolisp.el relies on plisp. In any case, you've changed your files
>> around and there is no edit.l anymore. Here's my .emacs section for
>> picolisp. ;; is commented out
>>
>> ;; (add-to-list 'load-path "~/opt/picoLisp/lib/el")
>> ;;(load "/home/galaxybeing/.emacs.d/modes/tsm.el") ;; Picolisp
>> TransientSymbolsMarkup (*Tsm)
>> (autoload 'run-picolisp "inferior-picolisp")
>> (autoload 'plisp-mode "picolisp" "Major mode for editing Picolisp." t)
>>
>> (require 'plisp-mode)
>>
>> (setq picolisp-program-name "/home/galaxybeing/opt/pil21/pil")
>> (add-to-list 'auto-mode-alist '("\\.l$" . picolisp-mode))
>>
>> ;; (add-hook 'picolisp-mode-hook
>> ;;(lambda ()
>> ;;   (paredit-mode +1) ;; Loads paredit mode automatically
>> ;;   (tsm-mode) ;; Enables TSM
>> ;;   (define-key picolisp-mode-map (kbd "RET") 'newline-and-indent)
>> ;;   (define-key picolisp-mode-map (kbd "C-h")
>> 'paredit-backward-delete) ) )
>>
>> On Wed, Nov 30, 2022 at 1:09 AM Alexander Burger 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi Lawrence,
>>>
>>> > Having trouble with getting picolisp to work with org-mode Babel code
>>> > blocks. I'm guessing it's because I have an out of date ob-picolisp.el
>>> > which I had to scrounge on the Internet. (Got one latest 2021.)
>>>
>>> Sorry, yes. Org-Mode is not ported to Pil21 (yet).
>>>
>>> Let us investigate a little :)
>>>
>>> ☺/ A!ex
>>>
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>>
>>
>> --
>> ⨽
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>> Grand Marais, MN, USA
>> borg...@gmail.com
>>
>

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Re: org-mode with picolisp

[Thorsten Jolitz]

Hi,
I'm more or less responsable for PicoLisp in org-mode.

Before diving any deeper, note the readme of GitHub -
flexibeast/plisp-mode: PicoLisp support for Emacs
 :
"The plisp-mode in this package has been built from scratch, and is not
based on, nor connected with, the PicoLisp support for Emacs provided in the
PicoLisp distribution , or the more
recently updated version of that support
. At this stage, the main advantages
provided by this package are [...]"

So you are actually in unsupported territory there, the original
picolisp-mode which was used for ob-picolisp is this:
GitHub - tj64/picolisp-mode: GNU Emacs mode for PicoLisp programming


I don't think that ob-picolisp cares about pil64 or pil21, most likely the
problems you see are related to plisp-mode itself.
Maybe try the original mode standalone, and if that works, try it with
org-mode.

plisp-mode was developed by someone else, and I don't know if it was ever
used "in production".
Cheers
Thorsten



Am Mi., 30. Nov. 2022 um 16:47 Uhr schrieb Galaxy Being :

> The problem might be with plisp-mode. It gives the same error (on "send
> definition and go" i.e., start REPL and hand code off to it), and I think
> ob-picolisp.el relies on plisp. In any case, you've changed your files
> around and there is no edit.l anymore. Here's my .emacs section for
> picolisp. ;; is commented out
>
> ;; (add-to-list 'load-path "~/opt/picoLisp/lib/el")
> ;;(load "/home/galaxybeing/.emacs.d/modes/tsm.el") ;; Picolisp
> TransientSymbolsMarkup (*Tsm)
> (autoload 'run-picolisp "inferior-picolisp")
> (autoload 'plisp-mode "picolisp" "Major mode for editing Picolisp." t)
>
> (require 'plisp-mode)
>
> (setq picolisp-program-name "/home/galaxybeing/opt/pil21/pil")
> (add-to-list 'auto-mode-alist '("\\.l$" . picolisp-mode))
>
> ;; (add-hook 'picolisp-mode-hook
> ;;(lambda ()
> ;;   (paredit-mode +1) ;; Loads paredit mode automatically
> ;;   (tsm-mode) ;; Enables TSM
> ;;   (define-key picolisp-mode-map (kbd "RET") 'newline-and-indent)
> ;;   (define-key picolisp-mode-map (kbd "C-h")
> 'paredit-backward-delete) ) )
>
> On Wed, Nov 30, 2022 at 1:09 AM Alexander Burger 
> wrote:
>
>> Hi Lawrence,
>>
>> > Having trouble with getting picolisp to work with org-mode Babel code
>> > blocks. I'm guessing it's because I have an out of date ob-picolisp.el
>> > which I had to scrounge on the Internet. (Got one latest 2021.)
>>
>> Sorry, yes. Org-Mode is not ported to Pil21 (yet).
>>
>> Let us investigate a little :)
>>
>> ☺/ A!ex
>>
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>>
>
>
> --
> ⨽
> Lawrence Bottorff
> Grand Marais, MN, USA
> borg...@gmail.com
>

Re: org-mode with picolisp

[Galaxy Being]

The problem might be with plisp-mode. It gives the same error (on "send
definition and go" i.e., start REPL and hand code off to it), and I think
ob-picolisp.el relies on plisp. In any case, you've changed your files
around and there is no edit.l anymore. Here's my .emacs section for
picolisp. ;; is commented out

;; (add-to-list 'load-path "~/opt/picoLisp/lib/el")
;;(load "/home/galaxybeing/.emacs.d/modes/tsm.el") ;; Picolisp
TransientSymbolsMarkup (*Tsm)
(autoload 'run-picolisp "inferior-picolisp")
(autoload 'plisp-mode "picolisp" "Major mode for editing Picolisp." t)

(require 'plisp-mode)

(setq picolisp-program-name "/home/galaxybeing/opt/pil21/pil")
(add-to-list 'auto-mode-alist '("\\.l$" . picolisp-mode))

;; (add-hook 'picolisp-mode-hook
;;(lambda ()
;;   (paredit-mode +1) ;; Loads paredit mode automatically
;;   (tsm-mode) ;; Enables TSM
;;   (define-key picolisp-mode-map (kbd "RET") 'newline-and-indent)
;;   (define-key picolisp-mode-map (kbd "C-h")
'paredit-backward-delete) ) )

On Wed, Nov 30, 2022 at 1:09 AM Alexander Burger 
wrote:

> Hi Lawrence,
>
> > Having trouble with getting picolisp to work with org-mode Babel code
> > blocks. I'm guessing it's because I have an out of date ob-picolisp.el
> > which I had to scrounge on the Internet. (Got one latest 2021.)
>
> Sorry, yes. Org-Mode is not ported to Pil21 (yet).
>
> Let us investigate a little :)
>
> ☺/ A!ex
>
> --
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>


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