Re: pida-rst-plugin

2010-02-04 Thread RonnyPfannschmidt


On Feb 4, 9:10 pm, Ryan Freckleton ryan.freckle...@gmail.com wrote:
 On Thu, Feb 4, 2010 at 12:16 PM, Bernhard Leiner 





 mailinglists.blei...@gmail.com wrote:
  Hi,

  As some of you know, I have been working for a ReStructuredText plugin
  for pida since a while.

 http://bitbucket.org/bernh/pida-rst-plugin/

  It's now pretty stable and I'm fairly sure that it won't eat your data
  if you try it. It works out of the box for plain rst files and basic
  Sphinx projects (which includes the PIDA documentation itself).

  As soon as you like to use Sphinx extensions some work is required:
  Create a rst directory inside the project specific .pida-metadata
  directory and place a rst.json file inside. It should look like this:

  {
   sphinx: true,
   basedir: /path/to/sphinx/project,
   builddir: _build
  }

  basedir it the directory that contains the Sphinx conf.py

  Some GUI support for creating this config data is on top of my TODO
  list but I have found no easy way to do this. Suggestions?

 Very nice!

 I don't have any direct thoughts on GUI configuration -- perhaps just a tree
 view of key-value pairs for now? The project that I'm working on (Java
 support for PIDA) will likely eventually need something similar.

 We may want to look into adding a JSON schema for the PIDA conifguration
 file...that may make adding a GUI for configuration data easier...


we have some kind of system already in place for options
currently we are rewriting the data proxy idea and while we are on it
we should integrate per-project options we could configure on the
projects


 An interesting problem that I'll try to chew on some more.

 Cheers,
 =
 --Ryan E. Freckleton

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Re: Can't load GVim when launched from a launcher

2010-02-01 Thread RonnyPfannschmidt


On Jan 31, 11:45 pm, Ali Afshar aafs...@gmail.com wrote:
 On 31 January 2010 20:59, RonnyPfannschmidt

 ronny.pfannschm...@gmail.com wrote:

  On Jan 31, 8:48 pm, Joshua Gardner mellowcellofel...@gmail.com
  wrote:
  It works, excellent. :)

  Amazing how much difference a single character can make.

  the single character was a unrelated bug
  the main issue was the pty

 That fix absolutely terrifies me. Not because it is a bad fix, its
 fine. But Vim failing in that situation is genuinely scary.

vim is epic fail

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Re: Can't load GVim when launched from a launcher

2010-01-31 Thread RonnyPfannschmidt


On Jan 30, 11:57 pm, Victor Roetman victory...@gmail.com wrote:
 I can repeat this error from the command line out of the hg tree:
 If I run
 ./run-pida.py
 then it works fine. But if I run
 nohup ./run-pida.py
 then it gives me the same error you have below. It must have something
 to do with the environment, but I have no idea what it is.

i figured the actual error - its a vim environment issue
i'll try to fix it



 vic



 Joshua Gardner wrote:
  I have a really weird error. I installed PIDA this morning from the
  mercurial trunk. I did it by running using checkinstall in combination
  with the python distutils. (I ran sudo checkinstall python setup.py
  intall --prefix /usr, which installed properly and made deb
  packages.)

  I use Vim as my preferred editor component. When I launch PIDA from
  the terminal with the command pida it works perfectly fine. But if I
  launch it from a GNOME launcher, using either the menu or GNOME Do, it
  insists it can't find the GVim python bindings and gives me only Emacs
  as an editor choice.

  This is really weird, and I'm not sure what's the matter. I can't read
  any console output to show any errors because whenever I launch it
  from the console it works. Any hints on how to figure out what's wrong
  would be much appreciated.

  -Josh

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Re: Can't load GVim when launched from a launcher

2010-01-31 Thread RonnyPfannschmidt


On Jan 31, 10:24 am, RonnyPfannschmidt ronny.pfannschm...@gmail.com
wrote:
 On Jan 30, 11:57 pm, Victor Roetman victory...@gmail.com wrote: I can 
 repeat this error from the command line out of the hg tree:
  If I run
  ./run-pida.py
  then it works fine. But if I run
  nohup ./run-pida.py
  then it gives me the same error you have below. It must have something
  to do with the environment, but I have no idea what it is.

 i figured the actual error - its a vim environment issue
 i'll try to fix it

done, see http://bitbucket.org/aafshar/pida-main/changeset/cd0c6c127954/


  vic

  Joshua Gardner wrote:
   I have a really weird error. I installed PIDA this morning from the
   mercurial trunk. I did it by running using checkinstall in combination
   with the python distutils. (I ran sudo checkinstall python setup.py
   intall --prefix /usr, which installed properly and made deb
   packages.)

   I use Vim as my preferred editor component. When I launch PIDA from
   the terminal with the command pida it works perfectly fine. But if I
   launch it from a GNOME launcher, using either the menu or GNOME Do, it
   insists it can't find the GVim python bindings and gives me only Emacs
   as an editor choice.

   This is really weird, and I'm not sure what's the matter. I can't read
   any console output to show any errors because whenever I launch it
   from the console it works. Any hints on how to figure out what's wrong
   would be much appreciated.

   -Josh

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Re: Can't load GVim when launched from a launcher

2010-01-31 Thread RonnyPfannschmidt


On Jan 31, 8:48 pm, Joshua Gardner mellowcellofel...@gmail.com
wrote:
 It works, excellent. :)

 Amazing how much difference a single character can make.

the single character was a unrelated bug
the main issue was the pty

 -- ronny

 ronny.pfannschm...@gmail.com wrote:

  On Jan 31, 10:24 am, RonnyPfannschmidt ronny.pfannschm...@gmail.com
  wrote:
  On Jan 30, 11:57 pm, Victor Roetman victory...@gmail.com wrote: I can 
  repeat this error from the command line out of the hg tree:
   If I run
   ./run-pida.py
   then it works fine. But if I run
   nohup ./run-pida.py
   then it gives me the same error you have below. It must have something
   to do with the environment, but I have no idea what it is.

  i figured the actual error - its a vim environment issue
  i'll try to fix it

  done, seehttp://bitbucket.org/aafshar/pida-main/changeset/cd0c6c127954/

   vic

   Joshua Gardner wrote:
I have a really weird error. I installed PIDA this morning from the
mercurial trunk. I did it by running using checkinstall in combination
with the python distutils. (I ran sudo checkinstall python setup.py
intall --prefix /usr, which installed properly and made deb
packages.)

I use Vim as my preferred editor component. When I launch PIDA from
the terminal with the command pida it works perfectly fine. But if I
launch it from a GNOME launcher, using either the menu or GNOME Do, it
insists it can't find the GVim python bindings and gives me only Emacs
as an editor choice.

This is really weird, and I'm not sure what's the matter. I can't read
any console output to show any errors because whenever I launch it
from the console it works. Any hints on how to figure out what's wrong
would be much appreciated.

-Josh

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Re: toying with the idea of using librelist for hosting the pida ml

2010-01-19 Thread RonnyPfannschmidt


On Jan 18, 10:52 pm, Ryan Freckleton ryan.freckle...@gmail.com
wrote:
 On Mon, Jan 18, 2010 at 12:00 PM, RonnyPfannschmidt 





 ronny.pfannschm...@gmail.com wrote:
  On Jan 18, 7:30 pm, Tim Flink t...@tirfa.com wrote:
hi,

i like the ideas behindhttp://librelist.com/
the pocoo guys just started to use it for zine
i want to use it for pida/anyvc

so please discuss.

   I took a look at the public archives (rest-client was the first one I
   found that had emails) and my question is whether or not they censor
   email addresses in those archives. It doesn't look like it and I would
   guess not as that would go against the idea of a completely open
   mailing list. As much as I like some of the the ideas behind it, I'm
   not a huge fan of having my email address scraped by spam bots.

  no idea, i'll ask zed later

 Hmmm. It looks to me that the email header of emails is actually scrapped,
 but not emails in the body of the email. Some people like to put their email
 in their signature block, or use their email address as their sender
 address. These are the addresses I see showing up currently.

 I do agree that it's a problem if uncensored emails get through in email
 bodies, though. But that can be more easily worked around than if you
 display headers with sender addresses in plain text.

 I'm a little disappointed by the archive interface available on librelist,
 but that's nothing that can't be fixed with a bit of Django coding and elbow
 grease :-)
 

the pocoo guys made one for the rsynced archives, zed likes the idea
of someone making it nice
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toying with the idea of using librelist for hosting the pida ml

2010-01-18 Thread RonnyPfannschmidt
hi,

i like the ideas behind http://librelist.com/
the pocoo guys just started to use it for zine
i want to use it for pida/anyvc

so please discuss.

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Re: toying with the idea of using librelist for hosting the pida ml

2010-01-18 Thread RonnyPfannschmidt


On Jan 18, 7:30 pm, Tim Flink t...@tirfa.com wrote:
  hi,

  i like the ideas behindhttp://librelist.com/
  the pocoo guys just started to use it for zine
  i want to use it for pida/anyvc

  so please discuss.

 I took a look at the public archives (rest-client was the first one I  
 found that had emails) and my question is whether or not they censor  
 email addresses in those archives. It doesn't look like it and I would  
 guess not as that would go against the idea of a completely open  
 mailing list. As much as I like some of the the ideas behind it, I'm  
 not a huge fan of having my email address scraped by spam bots.

no idea, i'll ask zed later


 If pida goes this route, I'll probably just set up an alias for the  
 list but thought I would bring it up. Would the migration be automatic  
 or would we have to manually subscribe to the new list?

manual subscription by just sending the first mail


 Tim



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Re: Java support

2010-01-15 Thread RonnyPfannschmidt


On Jan 15, 5:04 am, Ryan Freckleton ryan.freckle...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hello PIDA developers and community,

 One of my coworkers (Tim Flink, who wrote this list earlier) and I are
 interested in developing Java support for PIDA with the goal of using it as
 our primary java IDE.

 If we succeed in adding this support, would you be interested in receiving
 our patches into mainline? We're planning doing our work in public branches
 on bitbucket and keeping them synced with main.
Yup, we are interested

 This assumes that our code is up to par with quality, tests, etc.
Tests is still a big grey area, quality is a moving target we attack
via peer-review.
I'd happy to provide additional review for you, if requested.

The basic premise Sounds fine, we might want to investigate on running
java-related things via a execnet-jython bridge.
We currently lack a concept of generic build systems, so currently it
would be necessary to indirect via puilder
(our simple builtin task-based build tool)
At some point i plan to make the Project support build tool agnostic,
so java based Projects could directly use ant/maven.
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Re: Java support

2010-01-15 Thread RonnyPfannschmidt


On Jan 15, 10:57 am, Ali Afshar aafs...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hi, as a user, I would be *really* keen on seeing good Java support,
 or any Java support. In my opinion it is a huge missing link, as
 although Java is not my primary development language, it is hard to
 live without using it occasionally.

 I personally wouldn't get hung up on having the first iteration be
 perfect, using Jython etc..

well, using jython would only be required for reasonable invocation of
java programm parts
the rest whole thing will require a good amount of iterations,
since java support is certainly a complex feature

i'm looking forward to seeing it happen :)


 2010/1/15 RonnyPfannschmidt ronny.pfannschm...@gmail.com:





  On Jan 15, 5:04 am, Ryan Freckleton ryan.freckle...@gmail.com wrote:
  Hello PIDA developers and community,

  One of my coworkers (Tim Flink, who wrote this list earlier) and I are
  interested in developing Java support for PIDA with the goal of using it as
  our primary java IDE.

  If we succeed in adding this support, would you be interested in receiving
  our patches into mainline? We're planning doing our work in public branches
  on bitbucket and keeping them synced with main.
  Yup, we are interested

  This assumes that our code is up to par with quality, tests, etc.
  Tests is still a big grey area, quality is a moving target we attack
  via peer-review.
  I'd happy to provide additional review for you, if requested.

  The basic premise Sounds fine, we might want to investigate on running
  java-related things via a execnet-jython bridge.
  We currently lack a concept of generic build systems, so currently it
  would be necessary to indirect via puilder
  (our simple builtin task-based build tool)
  At some point i plan to make the Project support build tool agnostic,
  so java based Projects could directly use ant/maven.

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Re: Java support

2010-01-15 Thread RonnyPfannschmidt


On Jan 15, 5:46 pm, Ali Afshar aafs...@gmail.com wrote:
 I would do exactly what you suggest, rip out some tools from eclipse
 etc, and present them as command line applications, which can
 communicate easily with PIDA over simple standard IO. I am imagining
 some simple data transfer format will be perfectly adequate to pass
 information back and forth from PIDA.


execnet + jython  java + stdio com


 I can't think of any command line tools for doing Java IDE stuff though...

 2010/1/15 Ryan Freckleton ryan.freckle...@gmail.com:



  On Fri, Jan 15, 2010 at 3:04 AM, RonnyPfannschmidt
  ronny.pfannschm...@gmail.com wrote:

  On Jan 15, 10:57 am, Ali Afshar aafs...@gmail.com wrote:
   Hi, as a user, I would be *really* keen on seeing good Java support,
   or any Java support. In my opinion it is a huge missing link, as
   although Java is not my primary development language, it is hard to
   live without using it occasionally.

   I personally wouldn't get hung up on having the first iteration be
   perfect, using Jython etc..

  well, using jython would only be required for reasonable invocation of
  java programm parts
  the rest whole thing will require a good amount of iterations,
  since java support is certainly a complex feature

  i'm looking forward to seeing it happen :)

  Right, we're aiming at implementing the simplest thing that could possibly
  work. Part of the problem is that there aren't a lot of stand alone java
  applications to support IDE features. We may end up ripping code out of
  Eclipse, Netbeans, etc. for refactoring, code checking etc.

  This is one area where we could use some help. If anyone knows of libraries
  for doing IDE like things with Java that we could use, that would be
  fantastic. Otherwise we'll just slowly add features from scratch.

   2010/1/15 RonnyPfannschmidt ronny.pfannschm...@gmail.com:

On Jan 15, 5:04 am, Ryan Freckleton ryan.freckle...@gmail.com wrote:
Hello PIDA developers and community,

One of my coworkers (Tim Flink, who wrote this list earlier) and I
are
interested in developing Java support for PIDA with the goal of using
it as
our primary java IDE.

If we succeed in adding this support, would you be interested in
receiving
our patches into mainline? We're planning doing our work in public
branches
on bitbucket and keeping them synced with main.
Yup, we are interested

This assumes that our code is up to par with quality, tests, etc.
Tests is still a big grey area, quality is a moving target we attack
via peer-review.
I'd happy to provide additional review for you, if requested.

The basic premise Sounds fine, we might want to investigate on running
java-related things via a execnet-jython bridge.
We currently lack a concept of generic build systems, so currently it
would be necessary to indirect via puilder
(our simple builtin task-based build tool)
At some point i plan to make the Project support build tool agnostic,
so java based Projects could directly use ant/maven.

  Glad to hear it! We'll definitely take you up on the offer for additional
  code reviews once we have some code.

  Holy cow, execnet is awesome! I didn't know that the PyPy project had
  created such a thing, most of the bridges I've seen between Java and Python
  use the shell and are generally dead projects :(. This is something
  definitely worth looking into.

  Thanks for the tip. Do you have any design constraints or ideas of how to
  make the build system more generic? We may end up getting it before you.

  Based on the level of support we're getting, I think that it would be useful
  for us to do a design outline and share it with the list of what we plan
  on doing. That way we can get some feedback before we start.

  Thanks again!
  =
  --Ryan E. Freckleton

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Re: Java support

2010-01-15 Thread RonnyPfannschmidt


On Jan 15, 5:26 pm, Ryan Freckleton ryan.freckle...@gmail.com wrote:
 On Fri, Jan 15, 2010 at 3:04 AM, RonnyPfannschmidt 





 ronny.pfannschm...@gmail.com wrote:

  On Jan 15, 10:57 am, Ali Afshar aafs...@gmail.com wrote:
   Hi, as a user, I would be *really* keen on seeing good Java support,
   or any Java support. In my opinion it is a huge missing link, as
   although Java is not my primary development language, it is hard to
   live without using it occasionally.

   I personally wouldn't get hung up on having the first iteration be
   perfect, using Jython etc..

  well, using jython would only be required for reasonable invocation of
  java programm parts
  the rest whole thing will require a good amount of iterations,
  since java support is certainly a complex feature

  i'm looking forward to seeing it happen :)

 Right, we're aiming at implementing the simplest thing that could possibly
 work. Part of the problem is that there aren't a lot of stand alone java
 applications to support IDE features. We may end up ripping code out of
 Eclipse, Netbeans, etc. for refactoring, code checking etc.

 This is one area where we could use some help. If anyone knows of libraries
 for doing IDE like things with Java that we could use, that would be
 fantastic. Otherwise we'll just slowly add features from scratch.

we might need to have to search the java community for those







   2010/1/15 RonnyPfannschmidt ronny.pfannschm...@gmail.com:

On Jan 15, 5:04 am, Ryan Freckleton ryan.freckle...@gmail.com wrote:
Hello PIDA developers and community,

One of my coworkers (Tim Flink, who wrote this list earlier) and I are
interested in developing Java support for PIDA with the goal of using
  it as
our primary java IDE.

If we succeed in adding this support, would you be interested in
  receiving
our patches into mainline? We're planning doing our work in public
  branches
on bitbucket and keeping them synced with main.
Yup, we are interested

This assumes that our code is up to par with quality, tests, etc.
Tests is still a big grey area, quality is a moving target we attack
via peer-review.
I'd happy to provide additional review for you, if requested.

The basic premise Sounds fine, we might want to investigate on running
java-related things via a execnet-jython bridge.
We currently lack a concept of generic build systems, so currently it
would be necessary to indirect via puilder
(our simple builtin task-based build tool)
At some point i plan to make the Project support build tool agnostic,
so java based Projects could directly use ant/maven.

 Glad to hear it! We'll definitely take you up on the offer for additional
 code reviews once we have some code.

 Holy cow, execnet is awesome! I didn't know that the PyPy project had
 created such a thing, most of the bridges I've seen between Java and Python
 use the shell and are generally dead projects :(. This is something
 definitely worth looking into.

 Thanks for the tip. Do you have any design constraints or ideas of how to
 make the build system more generic? We may end up getting it before you.

not yet, thats something for after the exams


 Based on the level of support we're getting, I think that it would be useful
 for us to do a design outline and share it with the list of what we plan
 on doing. That way we can get some feedback before we start.
Feel free to abuse our Wiki.


 Thanks again!
 =
 --Ryan E. Freckleton
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Re: Questions from exploratory testing

2010-01-14 Thread RonnyPfannschmidt


On Jan 14, 3:41 am, Ryan Freckleton ryan.freckle...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hi everyone,

 I recently discovered PIDA and thought it would be a good candidate to do
 some session based exploratory testing. I just discovered exploratory
 testing as well, so this is mostly an exercise to practice that new skill.

 I spent twenty minutes just trying to survey the GUI. Here are some
 questions that I found:
 * When the splash screen is up, is load time mostly taken up by loading
 python modules?
its module loading + setting up the services
 * What does the create file entry in the menu do? I assume it's different
 than the functionality of new file.
the idea is that create makes a new named buffer that refers to a yet
to be made filename
and new makes a new unnamed buffer

the vim one for that is a bit screwed

 * Is the search functionality extensible through plugins or have any other
 interesting features?
not yet
 * How does the project system work? Is it just additional metadata stored in
 a text file?
its metadata in .pida-meta, any plugin may use it
i think currently only puilder, indexing and rope python analysis use
that
 * No documentation exists through the help menu. Do I have to do something
 to build the documentation?
no ui integrated help yet
there is a sphinx documentation in ./docs
if anyone figures how to make a devhelp from that i'll happyly
integrate

 * What do the various icons on the status bar mean?
*skip*
 * How do the Notify and FileWatcher functionality work?
notify uses pynotify or an own fallback to provide notifications

filewatcher is a messy set of fallbacks to use gamin/fam/gio


 Anyone have some quick answers to these? I'll continue exploring this
 awesome piece of software. if there's a place in the documentation I should
 look, please tell me that as well.

 Thanks!
 =
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Re: Building 0.6beta3 on fedora

2010-01-10 Thread RonnyPfannschmidt


On Jan 10, 5:52 am, Tim Flink t...@tirfa.com wrote:
 On Jan 9, 2010, at 9:46 PM, Tim Flink wrote:







  On Jan 9, 2010, at 6:16 PM, RonnyPfannschmidt wrote:

  On Jan 10, 1:49 am, RonnyPfannschmidt ronny.pfannschm...@gmail.com
  wrote:
  On Jan 10, 1:48 am, RonnyPfannschmidt ronny.pfannschm...@gmail.com
  wrote:

  On Jan 10, 1:36 am, RonnyPfannschmidt  
  ronny.pfannschm...@gmail.com
  wrote:

  On Jan 10, 12:35 am, Tim Flink t...@tirfa.com wrote:

  On Jan 9, 2010, at 4:28 PM, RonnyPfannschmidt wrote:

  On Jan 7, 4:20 am, Tim t...@tirfa.com wrote:
  I would like to try out the new 0.6 beta 3 of pida but I'm  
  having
  trouble getting it to build on Fedora 11. When I follow the
  instructions for cloning from hg on trac (http://pida.co.uk/wiki/
  InstallationHowto) I get the following error out of setup.py:

  sphinx not found, skipping user docs
  running build_ext
  gdk-pixbuf-csource --static --build-list        \
                 MOO_HIDE_ICON hide.png                  \
                 MOO_CLOSE_ICON close.png                \
                 MOO_STICKY_ICON sticky.png              \
                 MOO_DETACH_ICON detach.png              \
                 MOO_ATTACH_ICON attach.png              \
                 MOO_KEEP_ON_TOP_ICON keepontop.png      \
                          stock-moo.h.tmp  mv stock-moo.h.tmp
  stock-moo.h
  /bin/sh: gdk-pixbuf-csource: command not found
  make: *** [stock-moo.h] Error 127
  Traceback (most recent call last):
   File setup.py, line 202, in module
     data_files=data_files,
   File /usr/lib/python2.6/distutils/core.py, line 152, in  
  setup
     dist.run_commands()
   File /usr/lib/python2.6/distutils/dist.py, line 975, in
  run_commands
     self.run_command(cmd)
   File /usr/lib/python2.6/distutils/dist.py, line 995, in
  run_command
     cmd_obj.run()
   File /usr/lib/python2.6/distutils/command/build_ext.py,  
  line 343,
  in run
     self.build_extensions()
   File /usr/lib/python2.6/distutils/command/build_ext.py,  
  line 469,
  in build_extensions
     self.build_extension(ext)
   File setup.py, line 94, in build_extension
     cwd=os.path.join(os.path.dirname(__file__),'contrib/moo')
   File /usr/lib/python2.6/subprocess.py, line 462, in  
  check_call
     raise CalledProcessError(retcode, cmd)
  subprocess.CalledProcessError: Command '['make', 'prepare']'  
  returned
  non-zero exit status 2

  I have gdk-pixbuff and gdk-pixbuff-devel installed from the  
  Fedora
  repositories but I can't seem to find a file named gdk-
  pixbuff-source
  much less anything on the path.

  Does anyone know of a fix or a workaround for this? I'm going  
  to keep
  looking but I figured that I would ask in case someone else  
  runs into
  this.

  well, finally a reason to try fedora, i'll set up a vm and  
  take a look
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  I figured part of it out but have been waiting for this to post  
  to go
  through before I sent anything else.

  I think that gdk-pixbuff-csource was part of gtk2-devel but I  
  ended up
  installing that as part of another package. I'm in the process  
  of re-
  installing fedora on my machine so I'll be going through this  
  again
  soon, probably later today or tomorrow. I'll post fedora build
  instructions once I have that figured out.

  I was also having some issues installing the beta on Fedora but
  haven't gotten around to figuring that out yet. 0.5 from the  
  fedora
  repositories works but for some reason, the beta can't seem to  
  find
  gvim, emacs or medit. I'll post more as I figure it out.

  Tim

  i'm set up for investigation now, hopefully we'll have a working  
  set
  of dependencies for fedora in a few moments

  Ronny

  ah, i also needed to install python-dbus-devel

  so i guess the basic needs are pygtk-devel, gcc, python-dbus-devel,
  gvim

  ops, its actually called dbus-python-devel

  ok, i upgraded the installation howto to add some of our findings, i
  hope it will work, but i fear it might be incomplete

 http://pida.co.uk/wiki/InstallationHowtoneeds a bit more review

  Ronny
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  I went through the installation instructions on trac and ran into  
  some issues with missing dependencies.

  The list is currently:
  pygtk-devel, gcc, dbus-python-devel

  The list I needed to get pida to build and install

Re: Building 0.6beta3 on fedora

2010-01-09 Thread RonnyPfannschmidt


On Jan 7, 4:20 am, Tim t...@tirfa.com wrote:
 I would like to try out the new 0.6 beta 3 of pida but I'm having
 trouble getting it to build on Fedora 11. When I follow the
 instructions for cloning from hg on trac (http://pida.co.uk/wiki/
 InstallationHowto) I get the following error out of setup.py:

 sphinx not found, skipping user docs
 running build_ext
 gdk-pixbuf-csource --static --build-list        \
                 MOO_HIDE_ICON hide.png                  \
                 MOO_CLOSE_ICON close.png                \
                 MOO_STICKY_ICON sticky.png              \
                 MOO_DETACH_ICON detach.png              \
                 MOO_ATTACH_ICON attach.png              \
                 MOO_KEEP_ON_TOP_ICON keepontop.png      \
                          stock-moo.h.tmp  mv stock-moo.h.tmp stock-moo.h
 /bin/sh: gdk-pixbuf-csource: command not found
 make: *** [stock-moo.h] Error 127
 Traceback (most recent call last):
   File setup.py, line 202, in module
     data_files=data_files,
   File /usr/lib/python2.6/distutils/core.py, line 152, in setup
     dist.run_commands()
   File /usr/lib/python2.6/distutils/dist.py, line 975, in
 run_commands
     self.run_command(cmd)
   File /usr/lib/python2.6/distutils/dist.py, line 995, in
 run_command
     cmd_obj.run()
   File /usr/lib/python2.6/distutils/command/build_ext.py, line 343,
 in run
     self.build_extensions()
   File /usr/lib/python2.6/distutils/command/build_ext.py, line 469,
 in build_extensions
     self.build_extension(ext)
   File setup.py, line 94, in build_extension
     cwd=os.path.join(os.path.dirname(__file__),'contrib/moo')
   File /usr/lib/python2.6/subprocess.py, line 462, in check_call
     raise CalledProcessError(retcode, cmd)
 subprocess.CalledProcessError: Command '['make', 'prepare']' returned
 non-zero exit status 2

 I have gdk-pixbuff and gdk-pixbuff-devel installed from the Fedora
 repositories but I can't seem to find a file named gdk-pixbuff-source
 much less anything on the path.

 Does anyone know of a fix or a workaround for this? I'm going to keep
 looking but I figured that I would ask in case someone else runs into
 this.

well, finally a reason to try fedora, i'll set up a vm and take a look
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Re: Building 0.6beta3 on fedora

2010-01-09 Thread RonnyPfannschmidt


On Jan 10, 12:35 am, Tim Flink t...@tirfa.com wrote:
 On Jan 9, 2010, at 4:28 PM, RonnyPfannschmidt wrote:







  On Jan 7, 4:20 am, Tim t...@tirfa.com wrote:
  I would like to try out the new 0.6 beta 3 of pida but I'm having
  trouble getting it to build on Fedora 11. When I follow the
  instructions for cloning from hg on trac (http://pida.co.uk/wiki/
  InstallationHowto) I get the following error out of setup.py:

  sphinx not found, skipping user docs
  running build_ext
  gdk-pixbuf-csource --static --build-list        \
                  MOO_HIDE_ICON hide.png                  \
                  MOO_CLOSE_ICON close.png                \
                  MOO_STICKY_ICON sticky.png              \
                  MOO_DETACH_ICON detach.png              \
                  MOO_ATTACH_ICON attach.png              \
                  MOO_KEEP_ON_TOP_ICON keepontop.png      \
                           stock-moo.h.tmp  mv stock-moo.h.tmp  
  stock-moo.h
  /bin/sh: gdk-pixbuf-csource: command not found
  make: *** [stock-moo.h] Error 127
  Traceback (most recent call last):
    File setup.py, line 202, in module
      data_files=data_files,
    File /usr/lib/python2.6/distutils/core.py, line 152, in setup
      dist.run_commands()
    File /usr/lib/python2.6/distutils/dist.py, line 975, in
  run_commands
      self.run_command(cmd)
    File /usr/lib/python2.6/distutils/dist.py, line 995, in
  run_command
      cmd_obj.run()
    File /usr/lib/python2.6/distutils/command/build_ext.py, line 343,
  in run
      self.build_extensions()
    File /usr/lib/python2.6/distutils/command/build_ext.py, line 469,
  in build_extensions
      self.build_extension(ext)
    File setup.py, line 94, in build_extension
      cwd=os.path.join(os.path.dirname(__file__),'contrib/moo')
    File /usr/lib/python2.6/subprocess.py, line 462, in check_call
      raise CalledProcessError(retcode, cmd)
  subprocess.CalledProcessError: Command '['make', 'prepare']' returned
  non-zero exit status 2

  I have gdk-pixbuff and gdk-pixbuff-devel installed from the Fedora
  repositories but I can't seem to find a file named gdk-pixbuff-source
  much less anything on the path.

  Does anyone know of a fix or a workaround for this? I'm going to keep
  looking but I figured that I would ask in case someone else runs into
  this.

  well, finally a reason to try fedora, i'll set up a vm and take a look
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 I figured part of it out but have been waiting for this to post to go  
 through before I sent anything else.

 I think that gdk-pixbuff-csource was part of gtk2-devel but I ended up  
 installing that as part of another package. I'm in the process of re-
 installing fedora on my machine so I'll be going through this again  
 soon, probably later today or tomorrow. I'll post fedora build  
 instructions once I have that figured out.

 I was also having some issues installing the beta on Fedora but  
 haven't gotten around to figuring that out yet. 0.5 from the fedora  
 repositories works but for some reason, the beta can't seem to find  
 gvim, emacs or medit. I'll post more as I figure it out.

 Tim

i'm set up for investigation now, hopefully we'll have a working set
of dependencies for fedora in a few moments

Ronny
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Re: Building 0.6beta3 on fedora

2010-01-09 Thread RonnyPfannschmidt


On Jan 10, 1:48 am, RonnyPfannschmidt ronny.pfannschm...@gmail.com
wrote:
 On Jan 10, 1:36 am, RonnyPfannschmidt ronny.pfannschm...@gmail.com
 wrote:





  On Jan 10, 12:35 am, Tim Flink t...@tirfa.com wrote:

   On Jan 9, 2010, at 4:28 PM, RonnyPfannschmidt wrote:

On Jan 7, 4:20 am, Tim t...@tirfa.com wrote:
I would like to try out the new 0.6 beta 3 of pida but I'm having
trouble getting it to build on Fedora 11. When I follow the
instructions for cloning from hg on trac (http://pida.co.uk/wiki/
InstallationHowto) I get the following error out of setup.py:

sphinx not found, skipping user docs
running build_ext
gdk-pixbuf-csource --static --build-list        \
                MOO_HIDE_ICON hide.png                  \
                MOO_CLOSE_ICON close.png                \
                MOO_STICKY_ICON sticky.png              \
                MOO_DETACH_ICON detach.png              \
                MOO_ATTACH_ICON attach.png              \
                MOO_KEEP_ON_TOP_ICON keepontop.png      \
                         stock-moo.h.tmp  mv stock-moo.h.tmp  
stock-moo.h
/bin/sh: gdk-pixbuf-csource: command not found
make: *** [stock-moo.h] Error 127
Traceback (most recent call last):
  File setup.py, line 202, in module
    data_files=data_files,
  File /usr/lib/python2.6/distutils/core.py, line 152, in setup
    dist.run_commands()
  File /usr/lib/python2.6/distutils/dist.py, line 975, in
run_commands
    self.run_command(cmd)
  File /usr/lib/python2.6/distutils/dist.py, line 995, in
run_command
    cmd_obj.run()
  File /usr/lib/python2.6/distutils/command/build_ext.py, line 343,
in run
    self.build_extensions()
  File /usr/lib/python2.6/distutils/command/build_ext.py, line 469,
in build_extensions
    self.build_extension(ext)
  File setup.py, line 94, in build_extension
    cwd=os.path.join(os.path.dirname(__file__),'contrib/moo')
  File /usr/lib/python2.6/subprocess.py, line 462, in check_call
    raise CalledProcessError(retcode, cmd)
subprocess.CalledProcessError: Command '['make', 'prepare']' returned
non-zero exit status 2

I have gdk-pixbuff and gdk-pixbuff-devel installed from the Fedora
repositories but I can't seem to find a file named gdk-pixbuff-source
much less anything on the path.

Does anyone know of a fix or a workaround for this? I'm going to keep
looking but I figured that I would ask in case someone else runs into
this.

well, finally a reason to try fedora, i'll set up a vm and take a look
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   I figured part of it out but have been waiting for this to post to go  
   through before I sent anything else.

   I think that gdk-pixbuff-csource was part of gtk2-devel but I ended up  
   installing that as part of another package. I'm in the process of re-
   installing fedora on my machine so I'll be going through this again  
   soon, probably later today or tomorrow. I'll post fedora build  
   instructions once I have that figured out.

   I was also having some issues installing the beta on Fedora but  
   haven't gotten around to figuring that out yet. 0.5 from the fedora  
   repositories works but for some reason, the beta can't seem to find  
   gvim, emacs or medit. I'll post more as I figure it out.

   Tim

  i'm set up for investigation now, hopefully we'll have a working set
  of dependencies for fedora in a few moments

  Ronny

 ah, i also needed to install python-dbus-devel

 so i guess the basic needs are pygtk-devel, gcc, python-dbus-devel,
 gvim

ops, its actually called dbus-python-devel
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Re: Building 0.6beta3 on fedora

2010-01-09 Thread RonnyPfannschmidt


On Jan 10, 1:49 am, RonnyPfannschmidt ronny.pfannschm...@gmail.com
wrote:
 On Jan 10, 1:48 am, RonnyPfannschmidt ronny.pfannschm...@gmail.com
 wrote:





  On Jan 10, 1:36 am, RonnyPfannschmidt ronny.pfannschm...@gmail.com
  wrote:

   On Jan 10, 12:35 am, Tim Flink t...@tirfa.com wrote:

On Jan 9, 2010, at 4:28 PM, RonnyPfannschmidt wrote:

 On Jan 7, 4:20 am, Tim t...@tirfa.com wrote:
 I would like to try out the new 0.6 beta 3 of pida but I'm having
 trouble getting it to build on Fedora 11. When I follow the
 instructions for cloning from hg on trac (http://pida.co.uk/wiki/
 InstallationHowto) I get the following error out of setup.py:

 sphinx not found, skipping user docs
 running build_ext
 gdk-pixbuf-csource --static --build-list        \
                 MOO_HIDE_ICON hide.png                  \
                 MOO_CLOSE_ICON close.png                \
                 MOO_STICKY_ICON sticky.png              \
                 MOO_DETACH_ICON detach.png              \
                 MOO_ATTACH_ICON attach.png              \
                 MOO_KEEP_ON_TOP_ICON keepontop.png      \
                          stock-moo.h.tmp  mv stock-moo.h.tmp  
 stock-moo.h
 /bin/sh: gdk-pixbuf-csource: command not found
 make: *** [stock-moo.h] Error 127
 Traceback (most recent call last):
   File setup.py, line 202, in module
     data_files=data_files,
   File /usr/lib/python2.6/distutils/core.py, line 152, in setup
     dist.run_commands()
   File /usr/lib/python2.6/distutils/dist.py, line 975, in
 run_commands
     self.run_command(cmd)
   File /usr/lib/python2.6/distutils/dist.py, line 995, in
 run_command
     cmd_obj.run()
   File /usr/lib/python2.6/distutils/command/build_ext.py, line 343,
 in run
     self.build_extensions()
   File /usr/lib/python2.6/distutils/command/build_ext.py, line 469,
 in build_extensions
     self.build_extension(ext)
   File setup.py, line 94, in build_extension
     cwd=os.path.join(os.path.dirname(__file__),'contrib/moo')
   File /usr/lib/python2.6/subprocess.py, line 462, in check_call
     raise CalledProcessError(retcode, cmd)
 subprocess.CalledProcessError: Command '['make', 'prepare']' returned
 non-zero exit status 2

 I have gdk-pixbuff and gdk-pixbuff-devel installed from the Fedora
 repositories but I can't seem to find a file named gdk-pixbuff-source
 much less anything on the path.

 Does anyone know of a fix or a workaround for this? I'm going to keep
 looking but I figured that I would ask in case someone else runs into
 this.

 well, finally a reason to try fedora, i'll set up a vm and take a look
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I figured part of it out but have been waiting for this to post to go  
through before I sent anything else.

I think that gdk-pixbuff-csource was part of gtk2-devel but I ended up  
installing that as part of another package. I'm in the process of re-
installing fedora on my machine so I'll be going through this again  
soon, probably later today or tomorrow. I'll post fedora build  
instructions once I have that figured out.

I was also having some issues installing the beta on Fedora but  
haven't gotten around to figuring that out yet. 0.5 from the fedora  
repositories works but for some reason, the beta can't seem to find  
gvim, emacs or medit. I'll post more as I figure it out.

Tim

   i'm set up for investigation now, hopefully we'll have a working set
   of dependencies for fedora in a few moments

   Ronny

  ah, i also needed to install python-dbus-devel

  so i guess the basic needs are pygtk-devel, gcc, python-dbus-devel,
  gvim

 ops, its actually called dbus-python-devel

ok, i upgraded the installation howto to add some of our findings, i
hope it will work, but i fear it might be incomplete

http://pida.co.uk/wiki/InstallationHowto needs a bit more review

Ronny
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Re: New User of PIDA

2010-01-09 Thread RonnyPfannschmidt


On Jan 10, 12:56 am, gdawg devendorfgl...@gmail.com wrote:
 I recently installed PIDA on Ubuntu and would appreciate some guidance
 on how to use it. Thank you.

i suppose the old handbook might be some help

 Kind regards,

 gdawg
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seeking a replacement for google groups

2009-11-11 Thread RonnyPfannschmidt

since the spam moderation is kinda nasty i'd like to replace google
groups with something sensible sooner or later

anyone got suggestions?


regards Ronny
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Re: pygtkscintilla

2009-09-24 Thread RonnyPfannschmidt

hi,

on a sidenode, does scintilla still use hand written parsers in c?
last time i took a look at scintilla that was one of the major
failures that did set it apart from the mature and reasonable editors/
editing components.

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sprint this weekend

2009-09-24 Thread RonnyPfannschmidt

Hi,

for this Saturday we'd like to do a small sprint and tackle a few of
the bugs/enhancements that got less attention than they should.

I started creating a milestone for that sprint at
http://pida.co.uk/milestone/september%20sprint and i'm now moving some
of the bugs to it, feel free to suggest others here or in the irc
channel.


Regards,
Ronny
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Re: problem with check editor before starting

2009-09-17 Thread RonnyPfannschmidt



On 11 Sep., 10:03, Victor Roetman victory...@gmail.com wrote:
 I'm still not really sure where I should post this kind of report. Is
 this the right place?

a correct place for bugs would be our trac on http://pida.co.uk

 Starting with pida-main changeset:  2161 (e8620f95321f) (check editor
 before starting)
 when I run from the command line, it works fine
 but when I run from a gnome launcher icon, it pops up the PIDA First Run
 Wizard (while the splash screen is still up)

 The Wizard cannot find gvim python support (or anything else for that
 matter). If I press Quit instead of OK, it quits the wizard, but the
 splash screen stays up, frozen at that location.  Then I have to kill
 the process by hand. Pressing OK seems to actually quit the program.

 So there are two problems: 1) the first run wizard Quit button doesn't
 actually quit things and
 2) I cannot run pida from the gnome application launcher because it
 launches the first run wizard

 I really don't know why. Probably there is something in the environment
 that is different, but it's a bit strange to me. The previous changeset
 2160 (3836df4cc637) works fine.

i think we fixed it in the current trunk

please report back if its still messed
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Re: PIDA 0.5.1 Install issues on Max OS X

2009-08-30 Thread RonnyPfannschmidt

Hi,

i suppose medit is the only editor backend usable on osx itself.

emacs and vim currently require x11 support cause we use X11Embed as
method of integrating them.

None of the core developers owns a mac, so we aren't in a position to
test stuff.

Regards,
Ronny Pfannschmidt

On 29 Aug., 13:36, Jon~301 jon...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hi everyone,

 It's been 1 week i'm trying to install PIDA 0.5.1 on Mac OS X.
 I've tried a lot of possibilities :

 http://pida.co.uk/wiki/InstallationHowto(getting source from 
 HG)http://pida.co.uk/downloads(getting source from 
 website)http://pida.darwinports.com/(install via MacPorts)

 But these solutions fail when trying to build the moo_stub extension :
 ld: duplicate symbol __PyGtk_API in build/temp.macosx-10.5-i386-2.5/
 moo/moo-stub.o and build/temp.macosx-10.5-i386-2.5/moo/moo-pygtk.o
 collect2: ld returned 1 exit status
 error: command '/usr/bin/gcc-4.0' failed with exit status 1

 I found at this URL a possible fix for OS X 
 :http://bitbucket.org/aafshar/pida-main/src/ef0ae636748b/contrib/moo/m...
 When adding #define NO_IMPORT_PYGTK, I don't get any errors.

 However when I run PIDA, I get the first screen where I can chose
 between emacs and vim, then I get the spash screen PIDA is
 starting... and it loves you !, and then NOTHING.

 I have all these logs in the console :

 [jon...@macosx PIDA-0.5.1]$ ./run-pida.sh
 Xlib:  extension RANDR missing on display /tmp/launch-2xRpFK/:0.

 ** (pida:3051): WARNING **: expected enumeration type MooPanePosition,
 but got GtkPositionType instead

 ** (pida:3051): WARNING **: expected enumeration type MooPanePosition,
 but got GtkPositionType instead

 ** (pida:3051): WARNING **: expected enumeration type MooPanePosition,
 but got GtkPositionType instead
 VIM - Vi IMproved 7.2 (2008 Aug 9, compiled Aug 18 2009 00:52:42)
 Unknown option argument: --socketid
 More info with: vim -h

 ** (pida:3051): WARNING **: expected enumeration type MooPanePosition,
 but got GtkPositionType instead

 ** (pida:3051): WARNING **: expected enumeration type MooPanePosition,
 but got GtkPositionType instead

 ** (pida:3051): WARNING **: expected enumeration type MooPanePosition,
 but got GtkPositionType instead

 Thanks for helping !

 Jon
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Re: hg PIDA hangs when starting

2009-08-04 Thread RonnyPfannschmidt

i have a possible fix at 
http://bitbucket.org/RonnyPfannschmidt/pida-hacks/changeset/ea34e4d5fbec/
it will get merged later today, i'll have to solve some issues with
csw-gtk first

note that there is a cset on top of that branch that might break
depending on what kiwi version you have

On 4 Aug., 09:51, victor victory...@gmail.com wrote:
 Starting with changeset:  2086 : de81291f1108
 I am having problems running the hg version of pida
 It shows the following below and then just hangs with the progress bar
 almost complete.

 (I'm not exactly sure where to post this as the pida project seems to
 be spread across about five sites. Should I post a bug in launchpad or
 post a ticket in trac?)

 ---

 ~/source/pida/pida-main$ ./run-pida.py
 /home/vic/source/pida/pida-main/pida/resources/data/gtkrc-2.0:5:
 Unable to locate image file in pixmap_path: terminal.png
 /home/vic/source/pida/pida-main/pida/resources/data/gtkrc-2.0:5:
 Unable to locate image file in pixmap_path: terminal.png
 /usr/lib/python2.6/dist-packages/zope/__init__.py:19: UserWarning:
 Module kiwi was already imported from /home/vic/source/pida/pida-main/
 externals/kiwi/__init__.pyc, but /var/lib/python-support/python2.6 is
 being added to sys.path
   import pkg_resources
 15:31:39 dbus.connection      Exception in handler for D-Bus signal:
 Traceback (most recent call last):
   File /var/lib/python-support/python2.6/dbus/connection.py, line
 214, in maybe_handle_message
     self._handler(*args, **kwargs)
   File /home/vic/source/pida/pida-main/pida/editors/vim/vim.py, line
 52, in vim_VimEnter
     self.svc._emit_editor_started()
   File /home/vic/source/pida/pida-main/pida/editors/vim/vim.py, line
 141, in _emit_editor_started
     self.boss.get_service('editor').emit('started')
   File /home/vic/source/pida/pida-main/pida/core/service.py, line
 144, in emit
     self.events.emit(name, **kw)
   File /home/vic/source/pida/pida-main/pida/core/events.py, line 21,
 in emit
     callback(**kw)
   File /home/vic/source/pida/pida-main/pida/services/project/
 project.py, line 175, in editor_started
     self.svc.set_last_project()
   File /home/vic/source/pida/pida-main/pida/services/project/
 project.py, line 568, in set_last_project
     for project in self._projects:
 AttributeError: 'ProjectService' object has no attribute '_projects'
 ^C~/source/pida/pida-main$ Failed to receive messages at
 scim_bridge_client_read_and_dispatch ()
 An IOException at scim_bridge_client_change_focus ()
 An IOException occurred at scim_bridge_client_imcontext_focus_out ()
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pida 0.6beta2 released

2009-03-17 Thread RonnyPfannschmidt

Hi

i finally released the beta2, this time no packaging errors
feel free to grab it from pypi

as a result of the mess i reworked sdist part of the
http://pida.co.uk/trac/wiki/ReleaseChecklist

regards Ronny
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pida 0.6beta1 released

2009-03-16 Thread RonnyPfannschmidt

Hi,

I'm pleased to announce the release of pida 0.6beta1.

You can grab the release at http://pypi.python.org/pypi/pida/
Feel free to aks us in irc://irc.freenode.net/pida

It took quite some time to get it ready and we did many large changes.

* the project system got a major overhaul

  * currently the main component is puilder,
integration of other build systems is planned

* The plugin system got a major overhaul

  * we made a new config storage since gconf sucks
  * We grew an own package index for plugin's,
the plugin-updater/installer will find published plugins
on http://packages.pida.co.uk

* we expose all services via dbus (the api is still in flux)

* We got a language service that handles stuff like validation and
outlining ui's

  * we got outstanding dynamic python code-analysis thanks to rope
( see http://rope.sf.net )

* vim is now remote-controlled via dbus

* emacs and medit support got some enhancements

* we are able to actually run pida on win32 now
  (don't try this at home unless you know how to set up gtk)
  we hope to provide usable win32 installer till the next release

* anyvc is a separate lib now

regards Ronny
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misstake on the 0.6beta1 release, downloads taken down again

2009-03-16 Thread RonnyPfannschmidt

Hi,

i had to take the downloads down cause of a few packaging-issues that
broke the setup process

* a necessary file wasn't included cause i break-fixed the MANIFEST.in
file before the release
* the pida-pyshell executable had a unnoticed bug
  cause i tested with our in-repo development runners instead of the
correct binaries

I'm sorry for the inconvience and will put up a woking release soon.

regards Ronny
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win32 port status update

2008-12-13 Thread RonnyPfannschmidt

Hi,

i did some debugging and killed most of the issues that stopped even
basic win32 support
however a major problem stays, somehow a background worker thread is
accessing gdk, which works fine in gdk for x11, but is a major killer
on gdk for windows.

I'm hoping to find a proper solution for this issue before Christmas.
There doesn't seem to be any debugger that can handle win32 threads
for python (at least i failed finding one),
so i'll have to resort to debugging by code-review and debug-stepping
on Linux as well as regular testing in my vm.

Regards Ronny

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Re: Copyrights in PIDA source

2008-10-07 Thread RonnyPfannschmidt



On 7 Okt., 12:09, Ali Afshar [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Hi everyone.

 I am becoming a bit distressed with the individual copyrights and
 licenses in the PIDA source.

 Now I propose that everyone donates their entire codes to All the PIDA
 authors. Ie everyone in AUTHORS file.

 I suggest a copyright notice such as:

 Copyright year PIDA Authors (see AUTHORS).

 The reason for this is that we don't want to get into trouble like
 Mercurial have, where they cannot change their license because they
 cannot contact all individual copyright holders. We need to maintain a
 centralized level of control.
The main trouble is, they kept it explicitly incompatible with the
future.
Thats why i'm for selecting a desirable licensing line (either gpl2 or
lgpl2)

Then we decide on the or any later version clause and end up with
endless forward compatibility due the automated re-licensing.
to be sure no-one messes with our license all code that goes back into
Pida must have exactly this license.



 In part, this is mostly my fault for letting it happen as developers
 come and go. So, if anyone has strong disagreement with this happening
 to their code, please let me know, and we will come to an arrangement.

I don't like the centralizing of control,
however we should make a centralized agreement on licensing and future
support.

It should be something clear, simple and _final_.

Regards Ronny
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Re: Cimpoling PIDA under windows XP

2008-10-01 Thread RonnyPfannschmidt



On 30 Sep., 20:23, RonnyPfannschmidt [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
 On 30 Sep., 19:53, Francois [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  Ronny,

  I'm known as Ragloublog on irc but unfortunately it's not me that
  works on this aspect.
  I wish I can ... but I can't

  Sorry it's not me, perhaps you think of someone else

  Anyway a windows port would be a great addition for PIDA expansion
  Keep going guys !!!

 ok, i confused irc nicknames, i'll clarify when i'm not confused
 anymore

The nick is rodfersou , sorry for the confusion
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Re: Cimpoling PIDA under windows XP

2008-09-30 Thread RonnyPfannschmidt



On 30 Sep., 19:53, Francois [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Ronny,

 I'm known as Ragloublog on irc but unfortunately it's not me that
 works on this aspect.
 I wish I can ... but I can't

 Sorry it's not me, perhaps you think of someone else

 Anyway a windows port would be a great addition for PIDA expansion
 Keep going guys !!!

ok, i confused irc nicknames, i'll clarify when i'm not confused
anymore
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Re: Cimpoling PIDA under windows XP

2008-09-29 Thread RonnyPfannschmidt



On 27 Sep., 20:46, khiraly [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Hi!

 I would llike to compile PIDA under windows XP. I looked around, but
 haven't any luck
 to collect all necessary information.

For the current pida version that information is simply not complete.

 I found out that at least one person has successfully compiled pida
 under windows in the past.
That was the 0.4 series, the 0.5 series has depended on various
unixisms.
Thanks to ragloublog thats getting fixed.

 So goal are:
 Compile pida with medit (mooeditor) under windows.
We got ragloublog working on that, try to contact him in the irc
channel #pida on freenode.


 I try to share my experience with others, and hope that we together
 can compile in the end pida under windows. So please if you have some
 information just share.

 I have written pygtk application under windows xp. So I have pygtk
 (and python of course) set up under windows xp. So import pygtk works
 in python shell.

 0. Could some dev provide a link to working (runable) pida version? So
 from which repository should we start? There are multiple repositories
 and multiple version controls (bazaar mercurial, etc). I think its
 really bad decision, because there are few developers working on pida,
 and you are cutter more the developement. Anyway, command to obtain a
 working version would be really appreciated.

We recently started to split stuff up to get it to work more easy with
the subprojects.
I'll create scripts to manage combining it as soon as i'm done with my
current tasks.

Yes, its probably a bad thing we don't have scripts yet to get started
with development instantly.

 1. Is  cygwin or mingw required to compile pida? Or a regular windows
 shell (cmd.exe) enough to run pida? I ask because setup.py call 'pkg-
 config' which are linux/unix specific (or require mingw to run).
 Correct me if it is wrong.
The win32 setup process is kinda hellish, we'll probably provide
binaries later.
ragloublog is working on that, too.

 For a working pygtk environment under windows, it is simply required
 this all-in-one 
 installer:http://www.bonifazi.eu/appunti/2008/04/pygtk-all-in-one-installer.html

 I use it on multiple machine without problems.

 I hope you can help me out, and have a working pida under windows.
Its still a work in process, we are hoping to have it working rather
soon.

Regards Ronny Pfannschmidt
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Re: Pida devel: some news ?

2008-09-12 Thread RonnyPfannschmidt



On 12 Sep., 19:23, Francois [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Thanks Ronny,

 Whaooo ! feels sweet ...

 What do you mean by a rich vim api (vim is my editor of choice with
 pida) ?
the current vim api is based on vims remote protocol
its VERY limited

ali is experimenting with the integration of dbus/grpc for better apis

 Any idea of the 0.6 release date ?
since none of us can work on pida full-time we leave it at the usual
'its done when its done'


 Thank you all developers for your amazing work !



  We are here:

  * Projects are vellum files now
  * The plugin system is largely reworked
  * rope got integrated , we got dynamic python analysis
  * anyvc gets extracted and more unittests
    * native hg support
    * Javier Derderian (author of bzr-gedit) is taking a look into
  adding native bzr support
    * finally initial tests for git (it will need tonns of hacks to get
  the bastard named git scripted reliably)
    * better subversion support, still non-native tho
  * various ui and option enhancements
  * initial works on new autocompletion apis
  * save start mode where unsave options are replaced by defaults
  * kill all options start mode, where pida kills all saved options and
  replaces them by defaults
  * we are looking into a rich vim api for better integration

  We want to finish the following before releasing 0.6

  * finalize vellum integration
  * finalize anyvc extraction
    * MORE unittests in anyvc
  * fixing more bugs from launchpad/trac
  * integrate rope refactoring

  More things will probably come up.

   Can't wait to have some good news ...
   Anyway keep going, your work is excellent

   Francois

  Regards Ronny



Regards Ronny
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Re: Filter on file viewer

2008-02-14 Thread RonnyPfannschmidt



 Anyway, I think it would be a good idea to advance the show/hide button
 in the file manager with a popdown menu so that the user can show/hide
 sets of files. There would be options like python compiles, version
 control, latex compiles, etc. The menu can also be extended by
 implementing a feature. There should also be a custom entry which
 replaces the preference option because I think a preference option is
 not user friendly (ok, there is the point that such an entry cannot be
 system but only project wide). What do you think about it?

sounds reasonable.

it might be handy, to have a key and a scope for each file hiding
feature.

where key is a unique name (like latex-results, object-files or hidden-
files) and scope is either Project or Global

the alternative is using the file-ignoring of your favorite scm
pida already hides files your scm ignores


this probably requires some more thought
i prefer using the scm, since it already works
but the key/scope approach is more flexible

comments are appreciated :)

Ronny
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Re: Let's make better docs together

2008-01-05 Thread RonnyPfannschmidt



On 5 Jan., 12:09, edream [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Oh good :-)  I was afraid you might be offended by my suggestions.

PIDA should be fun to use - we love to get good suggestions for
archiving that

Ronny Pfannschmidt
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