[pinhole-discussion] hello everyone
Hello! Im Elena and have been experimenting with photography for just a bit now. I really had no connection with the fancy camera that I received for my birthday last year. its too tech-tastic. Its not for me. So my friend John introduced me to a lubitel. I fell in love with it and ive have been blowing my own mind with it. Its a very primitive way to record images. So I had an idea for trying some pinhole photos. So heres my idea, now dig. I want to do some long exposures, IM talking like 24 hour exposures. I wanted to make several small crude box pinhole cameras and tape them up all over the city, leave them overnight and go and collect them in the morning. unfortunately I dont know a thing about pinhole exposures and am about to do some experimenting. I have a few questions about it. How far does the actual pinhole have to be from the film.? How long can I expose for.? how big should the pinhole be? If you got answers, I got an ear. thanks, Elena
Re: [pinhole-discussion] re: calculating exposure
- Original Message - From: John Yeo jonn...@thegrid.net To: pinhole-discussion@p at ??? Sent: Friday, December 29, 2000 7:16 PM Subject: Re: [pinhole-discussion] re: calculating exposure I didn't see it there. Where on the page is it? How does one calculate half stops? I tried adding 1/22 and 1/32, then dividing by 2, but i got f/26.07, not 1/27.25 like you got. I would like to make a dial calculator with half stops For one half stops less you multiply the f/stop by SQRT(1 + 1/2) So one half stop less than f/22 is: 22 * SQRT(1 + 1/2) = 22 * SQRT(1.5) = 22 * 1.2247448714 = 26.94 aprox Mathematically, though, f/22 is f/22.6274, therefore half stop less would be = 27.71 So we can safely say that half stop less than f/22 is f/27 Guillermo
[pinhole-discussion] Crazy pinhole stories
Happy New Year to all, and I've got 2 crazy pinhole stories. The first is from 1998 when I was flying to Maine to attend the Maine Photographic Workshops. My carry on was the smallest piece in my luggage set. It held film [35mm and 4x5], my 4x5 Graflex [with real lenses and the 3 focal length pinhole lenses] and a pinhole camera I had made out of a can for a 4x5 negative [paper]. This woman at the Boston Airport stopped my carry on at the inspection station for hand examination. She went straight for my pinhole camera and opened it up. It was empty, of course. She was suspicious, called over her supervisor and said I would have to surrender this. I showed her how it worked [shutter, lens, etc] and she still didn't want to give it back. I finally told her and the supervisor that if I was transporting something wrong in there, it would be deadly gases and in that case we'd all be dead. I now stuff my empty cameras with socks and the like. The second story took place in 1989 when Warren and I went to Helen, Georgia. It's a town in north Georgia that remade itself into an Alpine-looking village. A MAJOR tourist trap, but a heck of a lot of fun. Anyway, Warren puts a pinhole camera on the tripod and stands in the middle of Helen's main street which is narrow and VERY BUSY with a constant stream of cars. So there he stands for 15 minutes, holding the camera so that the traffic wind doesn't tip the thing over and I'm yelling for him to take care of my tripod. Turns out, there was no negative paper loaded in the cameraoops! Since this is a G-rated digest, I won't print what he said when we found the camera was empty. I personally think he should have taken it again with the negative paper loaded, but he was a spoil-sport and didn't want to. Next? B-) Rosanne
Re: [pinhole-discussion] Crazy Things
In a message dated 12/29/00 4:24:31 AM Pacific Standard Time, guy.glori...@sympatico.ca writes: Perhaps we could start a thread on the most crazy thing which pinhole photography got us to do... I went out about a week ago to take a night photo, with my 11 X 14 "Caramel Popcorn Can" Pinhole Camera, of the school where I teach. With the night lights and all our snow it looked perfect. I figured out exposure time to be about an hour. Froze my fanny and upon entering my classroom to develop the photo promptly and absentmindedly took the lid off my camera on my way into the darkroom! I will give it another try! Happy New Year All! -Chuck-
Re: [pinhole-discussion] re: calculating exposure
John, F stops are based on the square root of 2. For the non-math inclined you just start with 2.8 and 5.6 and alternately double each: 5.6 11 2245(44)90 8 16 3264 Larry -Original Message- From: John Yeo jonn...@thegrid.net To: pinhole-discussion@p at ??? pinhole-discussion@p at ??? List-Post: pinhole-discussion@pinhole.com Date: Friday, December 29, 2000 4:16 PM Subject: Re: [pinhole-discussion] re: calculating exposure I didn't see it there. Where on the page is it? How does one calculate half stops? I tried adding 1/22 and 1/32, then dividing by 2, but i got f/26.07, not 1/27.25 like you got. I would like to make a dial calculator with half stops because most of my cameras have apertures that are not full stops. I've finally given in to using a spotmeter after many failed pictures :P I was chewed out last year for criticizing people about being so concerned with the exposure. I guess I deserved it. John John- Original Message - From: Andrew Sias andrews...@excite.com To: pinhole-discussion@p at ??? Sent: Thursday, December 28, 2000 5:04 PM Subject: Re: [pinhole-discussion] re: calculating exposure It's easy to make a dial calculator like the one on an exposure meter, but that goes to longer exposures and slower film speeds. I've got one on my web page at http://linux.bbn.com/~koolish Thanks for the dial calculator. I downloaded it and am going to make one. I have been using something similar but it is a bit more cumbersome. I made a long slide-rule with all of the f-stops and speeds projected beyond my handheld light meter. The only information my slide rule has that the dial doesn't have is that I have included f-stops and shutter speeds halfway between each of the standard settings. For example: the extra f-stop between f/22 and f/32 would be f/27.25. I have done this all the way up to f/4096 and 16,384 seconds (or 4.5 hours). Most people don't need to go that high but you never know. Andrew ___ Send a cool gift with your E-Card http://www.bluemountain.com/giftcenter/ ___ Pinhole-Discussion mailing list Pinhole-Discussion@p at ??? unsubscribe or change your account at http://www.p at ???/discussion/ ___ Pinhole-Discussion mailing list Pinhole-Discussion@p at ??? unsubscribe or change your account at http://www.p at ???/discussion/
Re: [pinhole-discussion] 6x6 Zero Pinhole camera
--- joebe...@aol.com wrote: Can anyone tell me something about the camera made in Hong Kong, 6x6 Zero Pinhole Camera. I am relatively new to pinhole photography and I am considering the purchase of this camera. You may wish to consider their new 6X9 camera. Not only will you get a larger negative size, but you can also vary the format to 6X7, 6X6 and 6X4.5. The construction is very nicely done. It's a little on the pricey side, but I was a good boy last year, so I bought myself one. g Cheers - george = Handmade Photographic Images http://members.home.net/hmpi/ __ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Photos - Share your holiday photos online! http://photos.yahoo.com/
[pinhole-discussion] Multiple Zone Plates Per Image
I have added some fields to my zone plate calculator to allow multiple zone plates per image. Larry
Re: [pinhole-discussion] 6x6 Zero Pinhole camera
Hi Joe, I've had the Zero 6x6 for over a year and have enjoyed it completely. It is well constructed and will serve you well. One of its strengths is that it uses medium format, 120mm film. This gives you the ability to make fairly large enlargements without having to go to 4x5 inch sheet film. If you don't develop your own film or prints, then 120 film is a good way to go - its usually easier to find a lab that processes/prints 120 film than 4x5. If you have the money, you might want to consider the 6x9 format camera. This gives you more options. Gregg At 04:52 PM 12/29/00 -0500, you wrote: Can anyone tell me something about the camera made in Hong Kong, 6x6 Zero Pinhole Camera. I am relatively new to pinhole photography and I am considering the purchase of this camera. Thanks for your help. Joe Besse ___ Pinhole-Discussion mailing list Pinhole-Discussion@p at ??? unsubscribe or change your account at http://www.p at ???/discussion/ _ Pinhole Visions at http://www.p at ???
[pinhole-discussion] 6x6 Zero Pinhole camera
Can anyone tell me something about the camera made in Hong Kong, 6x6 Zero Pinhole Camera. I am relatively new to pinhole photography and I am considering the purchase of this camera. Thanks for your help. Joe Besse
Re: [pinhole-discussion] PRINT SWAP: Pinhole Puzzle
In a message dated 12/28/00 3:04:22 AM, kerpl...@juno.com writes: Leezy, I'm in Washington... located in Snohomish, 25 miles NE of Seattle. Levi Well, that's pretty far away. I'm in NY. Leezy, I'll be moving to NY next year. Going to RIT. Levi
RE: [pinhole-discussion] Recommended Exposures onto Paper
I'm s happy to hear that I'm not the only one who manages to do such thing. andy -Original Message- From: pinhole-discussion-admin@p at ??? [mailto:pinhole-discussion-admin@p at ???]On Behalf Of figuref...@aol.com Sent: Friday, December 29, 2000 7:43 AM To: pinhole-discussion@p at ??? Subject: Re: [pinhole-discussion] Recommended Exposures onto Paper In a message dated 12/29/00 4:24:31 AM Pacific Standard Time, guy.glori...@sympatico.ca writes: Perhaps we could start a thread on the most crazy thing which pinhole photography got us to do... Guy, I went out during a snow storm in a cleveland cemetary,made a long exposure,and caught a cold..I did'nt catch the image though,i forgot to remove the dark slide on my hand made 8x10 pinhole :) Thats only one of a long list of crazy things i have done ! cheers, Harry Figurefoto.com
Re: [pinhole-discussion] Motivations
I don't think pinholers are in any way crazy. They just play better than lens photographers. To play is good. - Original Message - From: B. Roddy bpro...@acsu.buffalo.edu To: pinhole-discussion@p at ??? Sent: Friday, December 29, 2000 9:14 AM Subject: Re: [pinhole-discussion] Motivations Guy wrote: One of the things I really like about this group -as opposed to other groups I've been involved with- is the underlying crazyness of many of its members when it comes to experimenting with pinhole photography and breaking the rules... Each week seems to bring a new crazy idea and this is very stimulating, indeed! -:)) I agree! There's a wonderful lack of pretension here! This is hard to find in such a knowledgeable and creative group. Perhaps we could start a thread on the most crazy thing which pinhole photography got us to do... To make my pinhole movie I had to hunch over my cardboard camera in a park for hours every morning and dusk for a week. Freezing the fingers that advance the film wasn't as bad as all the stares I got from dog walkers and residents. Even drew the suspicion of the Park Service marshall. Bernie ___ Pinhole-Discussion mailing list Pinhole-Discussion@p at ??? unsubscribe or change your account at http://www.p at ???/discussion/
Re: [pinhole-discussion] Motivations
Guy wrote: One of the things I really like about this group -as opposed to other groups I've been involved with- is the underlying crazyness of many of its members when it comes to experimenting with pinhole photography and breaking the rules... Each week seems to bring a new crazy idea and this is very stimulating, indeed! -:)) I agree! There's a wonderful lack of pretension here! This is hard to find in such a knowledgeable and creative group. Perhaps we could start a thread on the most crazy thing which pinhole photography got us to do... To make my pinhole movie I had to hunch over my cardboard camera in a park for hours every morning and dusk for a week. Freezing the fingers that advance the film wasn't as bad as all the stares I got from dog walkers and residents. Even drew the suspicion of the Park Service marshall. Bernie
Re: [pinhole-discussion] Recommended Exposures onto Paper
In a message dated 12/29/00 9:28:13 AM, pen...@home.com writes: I won't tell you the crazy things I did with my spouse... -:)) Good, because that belongs in the alt.ASCII.wild.stories newsgroup, we are trying to run -at the minimum- a PG mailing list, here! ;-) Sorry, couldn't resist. Happy new year to everybody. Guillermo I didn't understand that but it sounded like something I'd enjoy if I did. Happy New Year to this wonderful, funny, inventive, crazy and talented group. leezy
Re: [pinhole-discussion] Recommended Exposures onto Paper
I won't tell you the crazy things I did with my spouse... -:)) Good, because that belongs in the alt.ASCII.wild.stories newsgroup, we are trying to run -at the minimum- a PG mailing list, here! ;-) Sorry, couldn't resist. Happy new year to everybody. Guillermo
Re: [pinhole-discussion] PRINT SWAP: Pinhole Puzzle
In a message dated 12/28/00 3:04:22 AM, kerpl...@juno.com writes: Leezy, I'm in Washington... located in Snohomish, 25 miles NE of Seattle. Levi Well, that's pretty far away. I'm in NY. Have a WONDERFUL NEW YEAR! Best Wishes, leezy
Re: [pinhole-discussion] Recommended Exposures onto Paper
In a message dated 12/29/00 4:24:31 AM Pacific Standard Time, guy.glori...@sympatico.ca writes: Perhaps we could start a thread on the most crazy thing which pinhole Guy, I went out during a snow storm in a cleveland cemetary,made a long exposure,and caught a cold..I did'nt catch the image though,i forgot to remove the dark slide on my hand made 8x10 pinhole :) Thats only one of a long list of crazy things i have done ! cheers, Harry A HREF=http://www.figurefoto.com/;Figurefoto.com/A
Re: [pinhole-discussion] Recommended Exposures onto Paper
G.Penate wrote: I was in my honey moon with pinholing, back then!! Don't tell me you didn't do one or two crazy thing when you were in love with something or someone. :-) Guillermo, I won't tell you the crazy things I did with my spouse... -:)) But, actually, it's my love affair with photography which helped me through a devastating period in my life 9 years ago when I was forced to take early retirement from my job as an economist because of major health problems. This love affair is still just as strong and became even stronger when I discovered pinhole. It got me to do some really crazy things as well - including many long lonely nights out with my camera in pretty bad weather conditions doing night photography (lens, at the time)... And the joy experienced when you see the results coming out in the darkroom goes far beyond the discomfort experienced during the shooting. In fact, that feeling is there every time you click the shutter, when you know that you've captured a great picture! Alas, it seems that these days the mind is still strong (and crazy...) but the body just won't follow as far as before... Darn it... One of the things I really like about this group -as opposed to other groups I've been involved with- is the underlying crazyness of many of its members when it comes to experimenting with pinhole photography and breaking the rules... Each week seems to bring a new crazy idea and this is very stimulating, indeed! -:)) Perhaps we could start a thread on the most crazy thing which pinhole photography got us to do... Best, Guy Glorieux Montréal, Canada
