Re: [pinhole-discussion] Clouds Over Columbus
now that is very nice skip At 07:16 AM 7/13/01 -0400, you wrote: A scene from Columbus, Georgia, from the spring of this year: (my apologies if your email chops this url) http://hiddenworld.net/pinhole/?cmd=maxstart=pic=clouds-over-columbus.jpg ___ Pinhole-Discussion mailing list Pinhole-Discussion@p at ??? unsubscribe or change your account at http://www.???/discussion/
Re: [pinhole-discussion] Safelight alternatives
Leezy, you can get good ones at Educational Innovations www.teachersource.com good prices, too Jim Orange red GLOW STICKS, What are these? Where do you purchase them? leezy
Re: [pinhole-discussion] Safelight alternatives
They have also been used by scuba divers going night-diving, but are now out of favor because the chemicals in them are so nasty that you really don't want them in your landfills. At 3:06 PM -0700 7/13/01, John Yeo wrote: Plastic tubes filled with some kind of chemical. There is a smaller glass tube inside the plastic tube filled with another chemical. When you flex the plastic tube, and break the glass one, the two chemicals react and put out light. You can get them in various colors, red, orange, green, blue and possibly others. Commercial fisherman use the green ones at night, they're often included in survival kits or road emergency kits. They're popular with ravers, who move them around to make light trails as they dance. I've seen them in the camping section of hardware stores for over $5!. You can get them at rave/club supply places much cheaper than that. $.80 each, in packages of 50 at http://glowstickfactory.com/6_inch_glowsticks.asp I'm sure you can find other places with a websearch. John - Original Message - From: b2myo...@aol.com To: pinhole-discussion@p at ??? Sent: Friday, July 13, 2001 2:46 PM Subject: Re: [pinhole-discussion] Safelight alternatives In a message dated 7/13/01 9:02:41 AM, zin...@telenet.net writes: Orange red GLOW STICKS, What are these? Where do you purchase them? leezy ___ Pinhole-Discussion mailing list Pinhole-Discussion@p at ??? unsubscribe or change your account at http://www.???/discussion/ ___ Pinhole-Discussion mailing list Pinhole-Discussion@p at ??? unsubscribe or change your account at http://www.???/discussion/ --
Re: [pinhole-discussion] Safelight alternatives
Plastic tubes filled with some kind of chemical. There is a smaller glass tube inside the plastic tube filled with another chemical. When you flex the plastic tube, and break the glass one, the two chemicals react and put out light. You can get them in various colors, red, orange, green, blue and possibly others. Commercial fisherman use the green ones at night, they're often included in survival kits or road emergency kits. They're popular with ravers, who move them around to make light trails as they dance. I've seen them in the camping section of hardware stores for over $5!. You can get them at rave/club supply places much cheaper than that. $.80 each, in packages of 50 at http://glowstickfactory.com/6_inch_glowsticks.asp I'm sure you can find other places with a websearch. John - Original Message - From: b2myo...@aol.com To: pinhole-discussion@p at ??? Sent: Friday, July 13, 2001 2:46 PM Subject: Re: [pinhole-discussion] Safelight alternatives In a message dated 7/13/01 9:02:41 AM, zin...@telenet.net writes: Orange red GLOW STICKS, What are these? Where do you purchase them? leezy ___ Pinhole-Discussion mailing list Pinhole-Discussion@p at ??? unsubscribe or change your account at http://www.???/discussion/
Re: [pinhole-discussion] Safelight alternatives
In a message dated 7/13/01 9:02:41 AM, zin...@telenet.net writes: Orange red GLOW STICKS, What are these? Where do you purchase them? leezy
Re: [pinhole-discussion] Clouds Over Columbus
Jeff, What the URL to your site? Thanks. Kate
[pinhole-discussion] Skippy's student 35 mm reference
http://www.pinholeday.org/exhibition/index.php?formName=EXHIBITf_action=req uestf_rec=55f_fieldName=date_addedf_fieldData=2001-04-30+16%3A58%3A29f_n ewrec=55goprev.x=10goprev.y=7 I think it might be #54. I picked 55 out of that ugly URL above and it wasn't right. I left-arrowed down one and #53 (Lubbock, TX, Elizabeth Pace) used 35 mm wideangle...maybe it's a coincidence maybe I stumbled on it. Thanks all for the welcome and replies. I'm going to figure out how to change my list ID...too formal looking...everyone else has a name. :O) Murray Murray
Re: [pinhole-discussion] Clouds Over Columbus
Thanks for the comments on the picture. This was taken on the Chattahoochie river right before a huge storm. The water, below the dam, in the picture was teaming with huge alligator gar fish, which made the scene even more surreal in person. These huge, seemingly armor plated, fish would swim right up to my feet, and glance at me, before swirling off! The other picture on my site, of the pond with pond stumps, was taken on WWPD, a few minutes after I took the photo that I submitted on the WWPD site (#66). The sun was rising in the background, and created a portion of negative that, when scanned, created a solarization effect, where negative and positive reverse on portions of the image. By changing contrast values, I could have nullified the effect, but I kind of like it, so I left it! I like the movement effect that someone talked about here. I think that it is created by, or at least intensified by, the sharpness falloff on the edges of a pinhole picture when using very short focal length. It kind of gives a stretching effect. I can't remember, but the Columbus picture was either 40mm or 75mm focal length.. The software that I used to display the thumbnails, is a modified version of a program called nailcutter by Thomas Weinert http://www.subjective.de/en/nail/index.php4 Greg Kemp, our host, turned me on to this program. He uses it to portray the upload gallery which is associated with this discussion group: http://www.???/discussion/upload/
Re: [pinhole-discussion] Safelight
Hi: Yes paper is pretty forgiving. Its not nearly as sensetive to light as film. I rate paper at 6 ASA when I use it in a camera. My darkroom has a couple of small light leaks around the door. I haven't bothered fixing these yet. I will when I start processing real film. The CGP orhto film I use is even less sensetive than paper - an ASA of 1 to daylight. I forgot one additional item for the minimal darkroom. Something to measure the chemicals. The recommended thing is a good graduated cylinder from the photo shop, but a large graduated measuring cup (intended for kitchen use) would work. As long as it is _only_ used for photo chemicals, and _never_ in the kitchen. A really cheap way of getting lab stuff is through surplus scientific suppliers. A good one in the states is American Science Surplus http://ww.sciplus.com though they won't ship outside the states Can't find one similar to this in Canada :( Gord On Fri, 13 Jul 2001, Nick Dvoracek wrote: I've been using a red party bulb from the grocery store for about 10 years. You have to check around the base to make sure the red coloring covers completely. I covered the gaps with opaque tape. I've also used orange christmas tree lights. I haven't tried leaving a piece of paper out for 24 hours, but I haven't been all that careful about handling paper under it. From: Gordon J. Holtslander hol...@duke.usask.ca The only one of these that _has_ to be bought from a photo store is the safelight. The rest can be got from a hardware store. Nick -- Nick Dvoracek dvora...@uwosh.edu Director of Media ServicesVoice: 920-424-7363 University of Wisconsin OshkoshFax: 920-424-7324 ___ Pinhole-Discussion mailing list Pinhole-Discussion@p at ??? unsubscribe or change your account at http://www.???/discussion/ - Gordon J. Holtslander Dept. of Biology hol...@duke.usask.ca112 Science Place http://duke.usask.ca/~holtsgUniversity of Saskatchewan Tel (306) 966-4433 Saskatoon, Saskatchewan Fax (306) 966-4461 Canada S7N 5E2 -
Re: [pinhole-discussion] Clouds Over Columbus
Jeff, Amazing photograph. It has a great sence of movement and pull towards the buildings in the center. And the clouds filling up the sky intensify that. Most of the other images on your sight are a lot more still, with out the dramatic lines shooting in towards the middle. Another one on your site that I like is the one with the trees and river and a bunch of what look like sticks shooting up out of the ground. There is something amazing happening to the light on the horizon at the edge of the trees. It's so fantastical and almost unreal, like a dream or a spiritual moment. lisa r
Re: [pinhole-discussion] Safelight alternatives
Safelight tests for the following worked out well for RC papers: 1. Red Christmas light bulb in a night light fixture (see www.paintcancamera.com) 2. Orange Christmas light bulb in a night light fixture 3. Orange red GLOW STICKS, if you have no electricity! This is really fun and is a great demonstration if you are teaching. Jim K - Original Message - From: Nick Dvoracek dvora...@vaxa.cis.uwosh.edu To: pinhole-discussion@p at ??? Sent: Friday, July 13, 2001 9:31 AM Subject: [pinhole-discussion] Safelight I've been using a red party bulb from the grocery store for about 10 years. You have to check around the base to make sure the red coloring covers completely. I covered the gaps with opaque tape. I've also used orange christmas tree lights. I haven't tried leaving a piece of paper out for 24 hours, but I haven't been all that careful about handling paper under it. From: Gordon J. Holtslander hol...@duke.usask.ca The only one of these that _has_ to be bought from a photo store is the safelight. The rest can be got from a hardware store. Nick -- Nick Dvoracek dvora...@uwosh.edu Director of Media Services Voice: 920-424-7363 University of Wisconsin OshkoshFax: 920-424-7324 ___ Pinhole-Discussion mailing list Pinhole-Discussion@p at ??? unsubscribe or change your account at http://www.???/discussion/
[pinhole-discussion] Safelight
I've been using a red party bulb from the grocery store for about 10 years. You have to check around the base to make sure the red coloring covers completely. I covered the gaps with opaque tape. I've also used orange christmas tree lights. I haven't tried leaving a piece of paper out for 24 hours, but I haven't been all that careful about handling paper under it. From: Gordon J. Holtslander hol...@duke.usask.ca The only one of these that _has_ to be bought from a photo store is the safelight. The rest can be got from a hardware store. Nick -- Nick Dvoracek dvora...@uwosh.edu Director of Media Services Voice: 920-424-7363 University of Wisconsin OshkoshFax: 920-424-7324
RE: [pinhole-discussion] body cap SLR conversions
Sometimes and sometimes. If it is bright out and your eyepiece covers your eye, you can make out some detail...enough to aim with. If the mirror is properly sealed you aren't using internal metering, you shouldn't need to caver it at least on Canon 630's andy schmitt -Original Message- From: pinhole-discussion-admin@p at ??? [mailto:pinhole-discussion-admin@p at ???]On Behalf Of Uptown Gallery Frame Shop, LLC Sent: Thursday, July 12, 2001 11:59 PM To: pinhole-discussion@p at ??? Subject: [pinhole-discussion] body cap SLR conversions Can one see thru the prism/viewfinder on an SLR with a pinhole drilled body cap? Does one need to cover the eyepiece on an SLR conversion to prevent stray light entering thru the eyepiece? Thanks Murray ___ Pinhole-Discussion mailing list Pinhole-Discussion@p at ??? unsubscribe or change your account at http://www.???/discussion/
Re: [pinhole-discussion] Clouds Over Columbus
In a message dated 7/13/01 4:18:16 AM Pacific Daylight Time, dilc...@hiddenworld.net writes: A scene from Columbus, Georgia, from the spring of this year: (my apologies if your email chops this url) http://hiddenworld.net/pinhole/?cmd=maxstart=pic=clouds-over-columbus.jpg Wow...those are great black and white photos! Incidentally, I liked the way you created your main page with thumbnail pictures. How'd you do it? Joel
[pinhole-discussion] Clouds Over Columbus
A scene from Columbus, Georgia, from the spring of this year: (my apologies if your email chops this url) http://hiddenworld.net/pinhole/?cmd=maxstart=pic=clouds-over-columbus.jpg
Re: [pinhole-discussion] body cap SLR conversions
Can one see thru the prism/viewfinder on an SLR with a pinhole drilled body cap? principally: yes. but you need a considerable amount of light. Does one need to cover the eyepiece on an SLR conversion to prevent stray light entering thru the eyepiece? Depends on the quality of the camera a bit, imho. The problem of giving false measurement with integrated light meters should not be that great with pinholes (as you probably do not use the automatics), on the other hand I'm not comfortable with the idea that the light input through the viewfinder is several thousand fold more than that through the lens .. I tend to cover the eyepiece when exposing. At least, it surely does no harm. cheers martin -- GMX - Die Kommunikationsplattform im Internet. http://www.gmx.net GMX Tipp: Machen Sie Ihr Hobby zu Geld bei unserem Partner 11! http://profiseller.de/info/index.php3?ac=OM.PS.PS003K00596T0409a
Re: [pinhole-discussion] Wide angle question
At 12:24 AM 7/13/01 -0500, you wrote: That's photo number 54, in case anyone is having trouble pasting the url back into one piece after it was mangled by the e-mail system. Mike Vande Bunt You can also refer to images in the pinhole day exhibit this way: http://www.pinholeday.org/exhibition/?photo=54 _ Pinhole Visions at http://www.??? Worldwide Pinhole Photograhy Day at http://www.pinholeday.org
Re: [pinhole-discussion] Wide angle question
That's photo number 54, in case anyone is having trouble pasting the url back into one piece after it was mangled by the e-mail system. Mike Vande Bunt skip crawford wrote: look at http://www.pinholeday.org/exhibition/index.php?formName=EXHIBITf_action=req uestf_rec=55f_fieldName=date_addedf_fieldData=2001-04-30+16%3A58%3A29f_n ewrec=55goprev.x=7goprev.y=8 i know its long bu thats tha address wide angle 35 mm film pinhole image by one of my students with camera she made actuall cropped 1/3 of it off cause ends were fading out expoisure wise skippy At 11:47 PM 7/11/01 -0700, you wrote: Johanna, The answer, I think, lies in switching to 120-format for wide-angle pinhole. I tried 35mm, found it to be too small to scan and print decently, and now stick to 6x6 and 6x9 images. I have no darkroom, so I get the film processed and contact prints made, then scan the negatives on a flatbed scanner. Take a look at this picture of a 6x6 pinhole camera that recently sold on eBay. (I don't know how long the image will be there. Not my camera, and I know nothing else about it.) But it is wide-angle. I have a similar 6x9 camera that uses a hinged magnet for a shutter. Just get an old folding camera and rip the bellows and front door off, then improvise. http://users.supernet.com/dduckworth/slowex.jpg Tom Harvey Portland, OR If my body cap pinhole lens has the same field of view as a 50mm lens, will I have a wider angle if I make a lens cap pinhole lens to fit on my 28mm lens? I hate to sound like uber dork...but it's further from the film. Or am I answering my own question if I say that it has to do with the optics of the lens? Since I know nothing about developing my own film, I am not sure how to approach the box-with-paper method. Maybe after Portland. Thanks again. Johanna __ Do You Yahoo!? Get personalized email addresses from Yahoo! Mail http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ ___ Pinhole-Discussion mailing list Pinhole-Discussion@p at ??? unsubscribe or change your account at http://www.???/discussion/ ___ Pinhole-Discussion mailing list Pinhole-Discussion@p at ??? unsubscribe or change your account at http://www.???/discussion/ ___ Pinhole-Discussion mailing list Pinhole-Discussion@p at ??? unsubscribe or change your account at http://www.???/discussion/
Re: [pinhole-discussion] Wide angle question
look at http://www.pinholeday.org/exhibition/index.php?formName=EXHIBITf_action=req uestf_rec=55f_fieldName=date_addedf_fieldData=2001-04-30+16%3A58%3A29f_n ewrec=55goprev.x=7goprev.y=8 i know its long bu thats tha address wide angle 35 mm film pinhole image by one of my students with camera she made actuall cropped 1/3 of it off cause ends were fading out expoisure wise skippy Doesn't work for me. Which picture # is it? Going to http://www.pinholeday.org/exhibition/ let's you search by number. Thanks, Tom
[pinhole-discussion] body cap SLR conversions
Can one see thru the prism/viewfinder on an SLR with a pinhole drilled body cap? Does one need to cover the eyepiece on an SLR conversion to prevent stray light entering thru the eyepiece? Thanks Murray
