Re: [pinhole-discussion] Who we are?
Pinhole portraits only! g here's one of me... http://www.rahji.com/images/pinholeme.jpg i'm 27 and i live in boston. i have a bachelor's of science degree in business information systems with a minor in computer information science (phew!). i've decided that the left half of my brain has been getting way more exercise than the right half for many years now so i decided to start work on a BFA degree now. i'm attending massart and will probably choose sculpture as a major, but i've been having fun with pinhole since i took a class at cambridge center for adult education last spring. i don't have a job right now (other than teaching at brookline and cambridge adult ed centers) so i'm having fun playing with pinhole and lots of other projects that i've put off until now. that's it. :) rob http://www.rahji.com
Re: [pinhole-discussion] Polaroid Safety
Natalie - If their MSDS says it can cause caustic burns, they are not lying! To my understanding, however, by the time the development process is complete the toxicity of the chemicals is greatly reduced. While I've felt a tingle now and then when I accidently get some on me, I've never been burned. If you're doing Polaroid transfers and are peeling after just a few seconds, it is adviseable to cut off the chemical pod directly into the garbage before peeling. As with all things chemical in photography there is danger if you don't handle them properly. Always read the fine print on everything and get more info off the maker's website when you can. And tell your friend that in general Polaroid is safe and fun, but not 100%. Have fun... Benno Jones Natalie Nadozirny wrote: I've ben reading this list for a while, and enjoy it very much. Maybe someone can answer my most recent film question. Is peeling apart an exposed and developed Polaroid 600 film safe? My friend, who is a high school art teacher, has done and will do projects with her classes in which they cut and peel apart the film from the base. I have a degree in photography, and all my profs always taught us that Polaroid emulsion is not the safest chemistry to be touching bare handed. I always use caution and gloves when handling and peeling apart Polaroid films, or transferring emulsions. My friend insists Polaroid emulsion is safe and fun. I have written Polaroid and not received a response yet. I have read their MSDS's which say the chemistry can cause skin burns. My friend still doesn't believe me. Any suggestions/advice? Natalie, 26, Baltimore, MD, part-time wedding photographer, pinhead _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp ___ Pinhole-Discussion mailing list Pinhole-Discussion@p at ??? unsubscribe or change your account at http://www.???/discussion/ -- See my homepage at http://www.bjonesphoto.com It's a well-known fact that although the public is fine when taken individually, when it forms itself into large groups, it tends to act as though it has one partially consumed Pez tablet for a brain. - Dave Barry
[pinhole-discussion] Pinhole Gallery at Grace Cathedral
Hey folks, On the site for Grace Cathedral, San Francisco, I have a gallery of pinhole pictures (with Blanche Hattery-Smith) of the cathedral and environs, called A Cathedral in Late Summer. Thanks to everyone who contributed information to my earlier dense negative question. There's lots of interesting content (not a lot of photography, though) on the main site, that you might enjoy checking out as well. Here's the link to the page itself: http://www.gracecathedral.org/slideshow/index.shtml It can also be accessed from the home page (it's 2/3's of the way down the page): http://www.gracecathedral.org/ Thanks for all of the support and inspiration I've gotten from our pinhole community. Benjamin five...@hotmail.com _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp
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I've ben reading this list for a while, and enjoy it very much. Maybe someone can answer my most recent film question. Is peeling apart an exposed and developed Polaroid 600 film safe? My friend, who is a high school art teacher, has done and will do projects with her classes in which they cut and peel apart the film from the base. I have a degree in photography, and all my profs always taught us that Polaroid emulsion is not the safest chemistry to be touching bare handed. I always use caution and gloves when handling and peeling apart Polaroid films, or transferring emulsions. My friend insists Polaroid emulsion is safe and fun. I have written Polaroid and not received a response yet. I have read their MSDS's which say the chemistry can cause skin burns. My friend still doesn't believe me. Any suggestions/advice? Natalie, 26, Baltimore, MD, part-time wedding photographer, pinhead _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp
[pinhole-discussion] Polaroid Pinhole Camera
I finally had a chance to look at Edward Levinson's report on the Polaroid Pinhole Camera that is available in Japan. (The report is on http://www.???/ for those that have yet to see it.) This clears up some confusion (in my mind at least...) regarding the film used. Here in the US the Polaroid integral film formerly called One-Step has been relabeled Polaroid 600. Since Polaroid has not produced any new cameras since the 80's that do not use integral film, I expected that this was the film used. It turns out to be 600 Series PACK FILM, which is another matter entirely. (Pack film is the 3.25 x 4.25 inch format peel apart film most of us are familliar with fron the 1960's and 70's. I just never call it 600 film, rather I call it pack film or 669, or 667, or 665. A better name would be 660 series since all the stock numbers begin with 66.) $99.95 is a lot to pay for a camera of this type. As a collectors item it is interesting, but one can make their own version of this camera for next to no cost. Cameras that use pack film are widely available at yard sales and resale shops for very little cost, often less than $10.00 in good condition. I used a camera of this type for my Worldwide Pinhole Photography Day photo. I have used the Type 665 Pos/Neg material and can confirm that it does indeed produce a useable negative. My experience has been that one must overexpose the print to get a good negative, but if you have a good negative you don't really need that original print. If there is interest on the list, I can write up some brief instructions on how to (and how easy it is to) convert a Polaroid pack film camera to pinhole / zoneplate. (Type 667 is the ISO 3000 speed BW material that I use for hand held zone plate shots, auto-exposure meetered by the camera's original shutter.) Mike Vande Bunt
Re: [pinhole-discussion] Pintoids
Guillermo wrote: I knew about people eating Quaker cereal like crazy to have pinhole camera material, but 100 Altoid boxes is a lot of mint! Costco sells Altoids by the case. I served them at home and brought them to every party I attended. You'd be surprised how many people appreciate Altoids. Aside from the tins I'd collected myself, folks sent them to me from all over the US. An entomologist from Michigan sent about 35. They had collected dragonflies in them. My friends still save them for me, though I believe I have more than enough to last a lifetime. -MM Marcy Merrill Photographer www.merrillphoto.com
Re: [pinhole-discussion] Pintoid and Celestial Seasonings Teas
- becoming poor by buying all kinds of objects ( and even ...anything) not for the merchandise itself but just for the container, Children very often like playing better with the packing material rather than we the toy that came into it. The name of the game is FUN and is a child have lots of it with a simple cardboard box, why shouldn't we! I don't know if it hapens to you guys/gals, but when my wife see me seeing any container for more than few seconds she ask me: Another pinhole camera, eh? (not that she minds :-). Guillermo
Re: [pinhole-discussion] Pintoid and Celestial Seasonings Teas
Hi all ! There are some French bon-bon hard candies that come in a round can, although some have switched to plastic cans. That's true and it becomes really difficult to find metal cans and when you find some, most of the time they seem to become more and more expensive ! the manufacturers consider using metal cans as a sign of produit de Luxe compared to ugly plastic or cardboard boxes and they are decided to make the customer pay for this elitist behaviour ! It's why I spend some time in junk shops searching for old tins, metal boxes, drug boxes, etc. Unfortunately, the problem is that, very often, these old decorated metal boxes have some charm and finally I am reluctant to cut them and transform them in pinhole cameras... To conclude , it seems that being a pinholist may have some -un (?)-pleasant consequences : - becoming fat by never ending eating all kinds of candies, cakes, oat meal, and drinking beer cans to get the boxes for pinhole cams, - becoming poor by buying all kinds of objects ( and even ...anything) not for the merchandise itself but just for the container, - having the place you live in changed in a genuine souk where no room is left because you never stop to accumulate strange and absolutely unuseful ( for non-pinhole persons !) things in all kinds of matters (from steel to fruits), all kind of sizes (from tiny matchbox to a caravan) and all kind of shapes You know what : I'm a happy pinholist :-) Cheers from France, with my special support for US people Jean+ - Original Message - From: Uptown Gallery Frame Shop, LLC gall...@uptowngallery.org To: pinhole-discussion@p at ??? Sent: Thursday, September 20, 2001 4:20 AM Subject: [pinhole-discussion] Pintoid and Celestial Seasonings Teas I'm hoarding an Altoid's tin and a Celestial Seasonings tea tin too. There are some French bon-bon hard candies that come in a round can, although some have switched to plastic cans. I was too busy lately to read the digests - I saw a message about Who we Are, and later Pintoid... I assumed Pintoid was a nickname for Pinhold enthusiasts until I took the time to read the messages. Murray ___ Pinhole-Discussion mailing list Pinhole-Discussion@p at ??? unsubscribe or change your account at http://www.???/discussion/
Re: [pinhole-discussion] Electrical Tape
thanks mark! Harry
Re: [pinhole-discussion] Polaroid Japan Introduces Pin-hole Camera Kit
I haven't had a chance to read the press release yet, but there is a possible answer to the color shift problems. Polaroid makes a bw version of their 600 intrgral film. No color shift (!) and reciprocity failure just needs an exposure correction. Mike Vande Bunt Guillermo wrote: - Original Message - From: Guy Glorieux guy.glori...@sympatico.ca I just read your release on Pinhole Visions. Is this you behind this initiative? I thought that there was too much reciprocity/color shift problems with polaroid to be really successful material for pinhole. When are we going to see it in Canada? SEE IT that's as far I'd go, the concept is very interesting but I can't get myself to pay $100 for it. I bought a Polaroid back accepting 600 film at eBay couple of weeks ago for $10 with the intention to transform it into a polaroid pinhole camera, eventually. Nevertheless, I'd like to tell my Japanese friends or anybody else: Whenever in doubt, Go for it!, I don't have doubts, though!. Guillermo ___ Pinhole-Discussion mailing list Pinhole-Discussion@p at ??? unsubscribe or change your account at http://www.???/discussion/
Re: [pinhole-discussion] Needle size for pinholes
--- Kelly Robart bp...@sislands.com wrote: Hi, I'm looking for some basic information on making pinholes. Which size needle to use in relation to focal length. I know there is a book called ,The Hole Thing, which has this info, unfortunately my local library doesn't carry it. Does anyone know of a website that has this info? You can find this information in the Pinhole FAQ, located at http://members.home.net/hmpi/Pinhole/Articles/PinholeArticles.htm. Cheers - george = Handmade Photographic Images http://members.home.net/hmpi/ __ Terrorist Attacks on U.S. - How can you help? Donate cash, emergency relief information http://dailynews.yahoo.com/fc/US/Emergency_Information/
Re: [pinhole-discussion] Electrical Tape
Harry: Most companies do not want to hear about new product ideas that are unsolicited. Here's why. Companies often have the same ideas for new products that individuals do. If an unsolicited idea comes into a company and they are already working on the idea, it's may be difficult to prove to the external party that his/her idea was not stolen. So accepting external solicitations is a dangerous thing for most companies. -Mark - Original Message - From: figuref...@aol.com To: pinhole-discussion@p at ??? Sent: Wednesday, September 19, 2001 10:18 PM Subject: Re: [pinhole-discussion] Electrical Tape Here is an idea that i used on my mini-altoids tin camera(which i believe was the first ever altoids camera,btw) anyways, a 3/4 flat magnet that can be purchased really cheap, is the very best possible shutter..imho for any of you out there who are interested in an interesting story..i asked altoids if they had any interest in this altoids camera that i built,almost a year ago..i only asked if they had an interest because they promote themselves as very interested in the arts in general..they even promote some young artists from what i understand. Funny thing is ,they had zero interest in even hearing about the camera,let alone the number of people that might buy their mints to make cameras..just thought you all might get a little kick out of this little tid bit.. Harry www.figurefoto.com
Re: [pinhole-discussion] Pintoids
How do you form a pinhole out of an altoid container? Seems a little tight to me... --Jeremiah In a message dated 9/19/01 5:26:17 AM, pen...@home.com writes: I knew about people eating Quaker cereal like crazy to have pinhole camera material, but 100 Altoid boxes is a lot of mint!
[pinhole-discussion] electrical tape
Someone (3M?) makes a tape called 33+. I decided that means it doesn't stick below freezing after some trouble with it outdoors! So, that's my vote against it. I have about 3 shots left on my first 35mm pinhole roll - I just haven't had the time to drive where I want to shoot the last three. Altoid's box next. Murray
Re: [pinhole-discussion] Re: new to this list
Thanks a bunch Guillermo! --Jeremiah In a message dated 9/18/01 5:54:47 PM, pen...@home.com writes: Most people start shooting BW paper, but there are times when you would like to have the luxury of making lots of exposures. Having lots of shoe boxes loaded with paper is a way, having pinhole cameras that take film (rolls: 35mm or 120, or even sheet film 4x5, 8x10, etc) is a less bulky one!. BTW, film holders for 4x5 and above also take BW of the corresponding sizes. Making your own film winding mechanism is not feasible for many of us, so usually we recur to modify cameras. These are some I have modified (and that still have with me!): A disposable 35mm plastic camera made to be a 14mm pinhole camera, shutter is a piece of electric tape: http://members.home.com/penate/cameras/14f.jpg A 35mm format camera bought for a few bucks ($3.50 US I think) and converted to a pinhole camera, shutter is a piece of foam: http://members.home.com/penate/cameras/12.jpg My latest one, just finished it yesterday!, an Agfa 6x6 folder purchased at eBay for $9 converted to a 36mm pinhole camera, I still use the shutter that came with the camera, but removed some of the front stuff to avoid vignetting. http://members.home.com/penate/cameras/6x6.jpg Finally, this is a Pinhole Nikon bodycap I made by drilling a hole and taping a pinhole at the back of it, I use that with my Nikon camera (obviously). http://members.home.com/penate/bcap_files/cap.jpg I guess that is another way to do it. I'm sort of clueless as to make one. Hope the above give you some ideas. The words you guys use are somewhat unfamiliar to me like pinhole/zone photography . You know what pinhole is. Zone Plate photography is a relative to pinhole photography, you can read an explanation about it here: http://members.home.com/penate/pinhole.html (look for the article at the bottom of the page. There is also a link to some examples of zoneplate images. I'm assuming that 4x5 is a large format camera? How do you make a good pinhole camera? What do you guys use? Yes 4x5 refers to large format cameras, it is relatively easy, though, to construct a camera that uses 4x5 film holders, some of the list members have done it. I made one that takes 8x10 film holders. Here is a picture as seen fron the rear: http://members.home.com/penate/camera/camera.JPG As far as how to make a good pinhole camera, you'll have to define what good is for you, first.
Re: [pinhole-discussion] Needle size for pinholes
you should get the eric renner book.. it has a chart with pinhole sizes in mm and inches.. there's also a chart that has different needle sizes and their corresponding size in those same units. rob From: Kelly Robart bp...@sislands.com Reply-To: pinhole-discussion@p at ??? Date: Wed, 19 Sep 2001 19:05:54 -0600 To: pinhole-discussion@p at ??? Subject: [pinhole-discussion] Needle size for pinholes Hi, I'm looking for some basic information on making pinholes. Which size needle to use in relation to focal length. I know there is a book called ,The Hole Thing, which has this info, unfortunately my local library doesn't carry it. Does anyone know of a website that has this info? Kelly ___ Pinhole-Discussion mailing list Pinhole-Discussion@p at ??? unsubscribe or change your account at http://www.???/discussion/
