Re: [pinhole-discussion] Sally Mann

2001-10-28 Thread GarfinkelDesign
I appreciate your info on the Ambrotypes and I appreciate the article 
info too I have been fascinated about these images of hers since I first saw 
them...

Wendy


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Re: [pinhole-discussion] Zone Plate Focus stringency

2001-10-28 Thread NeuhausPhoto
I think technically they should be refocused (anyone, please correct me if 
I'm wrong).but in practical terms my experience is, they needn't be. Try 
simply setting it to it's designed focal length and shootingIMHO little 
out of focus softness is often a plus.

Mike


In a message dated 10/28/01 5:02:21 PM, tsh...@silver-bayou.com writes:

 Once you have the zone plate focused for one object, will it be focused for

any other objects closer or further away, or do I need to refocus according

to the distance of my subject?


dwight 




[pinhole-discussion] Enlarger bellows on handbuilt camera

2001-10-28 Thread TSHACK
It seems like I read somewhere that an enlarger bellows is not robust enough
to keep out sunlight if used on a camera.  I've got an old 4x5 enlarger that
I'm considering copping the bellows off of to build a camera.

Anyone know anything about this?

Dwight




Re: [pinhole-discussion] New very slow film

2001-10-28 Thread John Yeo
Wow, that is an interesting film.  The 1000x enlargement was quite
impressive.  You can see the hands on the watch of a lady sitting far away,
on top of a building!.

John

- Original Message -
From: Jean Daubas j.dau...@free.fr
To: pinhole-discussion@p at ???
Sent: Saturday, October 27, 2001 3:41 PM
Subject: [pinhole-discussion] New very slow film


 Hi all !

 I know that among our lensless community, we are numerous to have a strong
 sympathy for slow or ultra-slow films which, combined with the
specificities
 of pinhole photography, allow us to experiment new dimensions of time,
 duration,etc.

 Unfortunately, slow films are not so numerous and we just lost one of them
:
 Agfapan 25, since Agfa officially announced its definitive
discontinuation.
 I really loved it and was not far from thinking that it was the best film
 ...

 And now arrives a completely new product  which seems to have astonishing
 characteristics : Gigabit film.

 I suggest you to have a look at
 http://www.gigabitfilm.de/

 where you will find all info about this astonishing product  (some pages
or
 translated in English, I believe). And if you want to try it, you will
find
 the address of the different importers for various countries.
 I have not yet tried it but hope to do it soon. Film is sold with its
 developer and it seems to me very, very expensive...
 But it seems that the quality of the film is worth a good try !

 Hope it helps, cheers from France


 Jean





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Re: [pinhole-discussion] New very slow film

2001-10-28 Thread Trickstrr
Jean, 

Is Agfa discontinuing all it's films including  Agfapan 100 and 400?


In a message dated 10/27/01 6:00:17 PM, j.dau...@free.fr writes:

Unfortunately, slow films are not so numerous and we just lost one of them
:

Agfapan 25, since Agfa officially announced its definitive discontinuation.

I really loved it and was not far from thinking that it was the best film



Re: [pinhole-discussion] Vera Lutter

2001-10-28 Thread Tom Miller
Dear All,

The talk by Vera Lutter at the Minneapolis College of Art and Design
is actually on Thursday, November 29 at 7:00 pm.  I apologize for any
confusion my confusion has caused.  (The November 15 presenter is Paul
Shambroom, a wonderful lens photographer. www.paulshambroomart.com )

Tom

- Original Message -
From: Tom Miller twmil...@mr.net
To: pinhole-discussion@p at ???
Sent: Wednesday, October 24, 2001 5:22 PM
Subject: [pinhole-discussion] Vera Lutter


 Dear Everyone,

 Is anyone familiar with Vera Lutter and her pinhole work?  She will
be
 giving a talk at the Minneapolis College of Art and Design on
Thursday
 evening, November 15.  Apparently, she makes room-sized pinhole
images
 of factories, etc.  Sounds intriquing.

 Tom


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Re: [pinhole-discussion] Micro or macro photo with pinhole photo

2001-10-28 Thread Guillermo
- Original Message -
From: Gregg Kemp gregg.kemp@???

 Guillermo, I don't remember ever seeing your correction formula before.
Is
 that theoretical, or have you tested it?

Theoretical, Gregg, as I haven't done any close up work myself.

For those (few) people interested in were that correction factor comes from,
here it is:

**
Pinhole is in most ways, not different than glass lens photography.

The lens conjugate equation is:

1 / F = 1 / I + 1 / O

where I = distance pinhole to Image plane;  F = Focal length  and   O =
distance pinhole to Object being photographed.

We can simplify that to:   F = I x O / I + O

When the Object being photographed is at infinity ( O = infinity ):

I + O = O

therefore the formula  F = I x O / I + O  becomes:

F = I x O / O  and that becomes

F = I

In other words, when the Object is far away (more than 10 times the distance
pinhole to film, in practical terms), the Focal length of the camera is
equal to the distance pinhole to film plane.

Now, when the Object being photographed is close to the pinhole lens (less
than 10 times the distance pinhole to film, in practical terms), the Focal
length of the camera is given by (as I stated above):

F = I x O / I + O

For close up work, then, F has to be substituted (in any of the formulas
for optimum pinhole size) by:

I x O / I + O

For instance, the formula I use is:

D = 0.0073 x SQRT( F )

where D = pinhole diameter in inches; F=pinhole camera focal length and SQRT
stands for square root of

For close up work that formula becomes:

D = 0.0073 x  SQRT( I x O / I + O )

As I said before, F = I  for infinity, therefore I can write the infinity
formula as

D = 0.0073 x SQRT( I )

Base on that, I can also rewrite the close-up formula as:

D = 0.0073 x  SQRT( I ) x  SQRT ( O / I + O )

There you have the correction factor:

SQRT ( O / I + O )

BTW, there are many formulas for optimum pinhole size but all have within
them SQRT(F), therefore, the above correction factor should apply fine to
all of them.


Let's see an example:

Our pinhole camera has a distance pinhole to film  I = 8  and the Object
being photographed is  O = 12 away from the pinhole, what size of pinhole
is the optimum to use:

The optimum pinhole size for infinity is:

D = 0.0073 x SQRT ( 8 )
D = 0.020 (aprox)

Correction factor is: SQRT ( 12 / 8 + 12 )
Correction factor is: 0.774

Pinhole size for close up work (object 12 from pinhole lens)

D = 0.020 * 0.774
D = 0.0155

BTW, all the above is nothing but a sort of bellows correction.

For people with mathfobia but that have read this msg up to this point, here
are some corrections factor based on how many times the camera
pinhole-film distance the object is away from the pinhole lens:

less than 10 times = correction factor =   0.95
less than  9 times = correction factor =   0.94
less than  8 times = correction factor =   0.94
less than  7 times = correction factor =   0.93
less than  6 times = correction factor =   0.92
less than  5 times = correction factor =   0.91
less than  4 times = correction factor =   0.89
less than  3 times = correction factor =   0.86
less than  2 times = correction factor =   0.81
less than  1 times = correction factor =   0.70
less than 0.5 times = correction factor = 0.57

Another couple of formulas than may help the original's question poster are:

Magnification   M = I / O

Therefore the Correction factor can also be written as:

Correction factor = SQRT [ 1 / (M+1) ]

So for instance, if she wanted to photograph an object 2 tall  with a
camera having 8 between pinhole and film and get a magnification of  2X,
she will need to position the object at a distance:

O = I / M = 8 / 2 = 4
O = 4 inches

and the pinhole size (diameter) should be:

D = 0.0073 SQRT(8) *  SQRT[ 1 / (2+1)]
D = 0.012

The image size will be 4 and therefore the minimum format size needed is
4x5 (portrait) or perhaps -better- 5x7 to allow for some cropping.

Guillermo







Re: [pinhole-discussion] Ilfochrome

2001-10-28 Thread B2MYOUNG
In a message dated 10/27/01 6:38:22 PM, erick...@hickorytech.net writes:

  I can't seem to find the processing chemicals for ilfochrome in any sort 
of volumes practical for 'wet lab' home processing. It looks like the 
chemicals are only packaged in larger quantities designed for roller 
processers. Anybody with more information?

I have a package of 2 one litre bottles (little plastic jars, A, B and C) of 
Ilfochrome chemistry that I purchased from B  H some time ago...maybe a year 
or so. I would guess they still have it but not sure about the shipping 
issue. Let me know if you want me to give them a call to find out if they 
ship towhere are you?

leezy