[pinhole-discussion] 120-220-620 film? Oatmeal part II

2001-11-05 Thread Uptown Gallery
Hello:

1) What's the difference between/among 120, 220, and 620 film?

2) Anyone use film in oatmeal box rather than photopaper? What kind?

Thanks

Murray




Re: [pinhole-discussion] slit cameras?

2001-11-05 Thread SPRINGTYME
Hi Tom!

Very nice! can you explain tmiller_hismaster?


Would i be correct that the slit is at an angle? Was the original object 
a flat sign?

This was a stationary slit image?

I'm more familiar with scanning slit cameras.

Thanks

Mac

Hello Guy,

Click on the link below.  It should be the Welcome to the Upload Gallery 
page.  Then click the Gallery 2001 link.  The first two images, dated 
Nov 5,  should be should be the ones.  

Tom 
  Tom Miller wrote: 
(My second reply to this message...) 
I posted two double-slit color images to the discussion list upload 
gallery  http://www.???/discussion/upload/



[pinhole-discussion] Re: Pinhole-Discussion digest, Vol 1 #503 - 9 msgs

2001-11-05 Thread Uptown Gallery
Thanks -

I saved two big ones (42 oz.) for my daughter's Halloween costume and she
ended up not using them. 5 diameter - should take 8 x 10 sheet I guess, or
5 x 7.

Thanks

Murray
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1. RE: 'nother question - cylindrical oatmeal vessels (Andy Schmitt)
2. Re: Cool News (Kosinski Family)
3. What is Lith Printing? Lith Printing 101 (Guy Glorieux)
4. RE: slit cameras? (Andy Schmitt)
5. Re: slit cameras? (Tom Miller)
6. Re: slit cameras? (Tom Miller)
7. Re: slit cameras? (Guy Glorieux)
8. Re: slit cameras? (Guy Glorieux)
9. Re: slit cameras? (Tom Miller)

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 From: Andy Schmitt aschm...@warwick.net
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 Subject: RE: [pinhole-discussion] 'nother question - cylindrical oatmeal
vessels
 Date: Mon, 5 Nov 2001 18:07:08 -0500
 Reply-To: pinhole-discussion@p at ???

 I have been using the new model with no real problems after I painted
the
 inside of the lid...
 andy

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 Sent: Monday, November 05, 2001 5:56 PM
 To: pinhole-discussion@p at ???
 Subject: [pinhole-discussion] 'nother question - cylindrical oatmeal
 vessels


 Hello:

 What has made the cylindrical oatmeal vessel fall from favor? Is it the
 translucent lid vs. the old opaque one that fully sealed the end?

 Murray


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 Subject: Re: [pinhole-discussion] Cool News
 Date: Mon, 5 Nov 2001 18:22:25 -0500
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 Thanks to Guillermo and YAHOO to Rosanne!
 Jim K

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 To: pinhole-discussion@p at ???
 Sent: Monday, November 05, 2001 8:30 AM
 Subject: Re: [pinhole-discussion] Cool News


 
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  Sent: Monday, November 05, 2001 7:49 AM
  Subject: Re: [pinhole-discussion] Cool News
 
 
   WHAT IS THIS?
   
   YAHOO!
 
  YAHOO:
 
  Yet
  Another
  Hierarchical
  Officious/
  Obstreperous/
  Odiferous/
  Organized
  Oracle.
 
  It also NOW is used as a shout of joy, perhaps in a similar way you
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 From: Guy Glorieux guy.glori...@sympatico.ca
 To: Pinhole List pinhole-discussion@p at ???
 Subject: [pinhole-discussion] What is Lith Printing? Lith Printing 101
 Reply-To: pinhole-discussion@p at ???

 Hi Leezy,

 You asked for it, so here it is: Lith Printing 101!  A bit long but
 thorough...

 Lith printing is a process which allows you to produce wonderful color
 shades on chlorobromide-silver emulsion BW fiber-based paper (e.g.
 Forte PolyWarmtone) using highly diluted Lithographic developer..

 With this process, and depending on the type of paper you use (Forte vs
 Luminos vs Foma), the shadows will print in dark earth tones and the
 mid-tones will print in peach or olive-green shades.  The effect will be
 somewhat similar to split toning.  Further tones can be achieved with
 selenium or gold toning and/or with advanced chemistry kits.

 1. THE PROCESS

 The paper is overexposed by several stops under the enlarger and then
 processed for a period of between 8 to 20 minutes - with constant
 agitation - in highly dilute Lith developer (Kodalith A+B will do, but
 there are some more sophisticated developer available) which has been
 contaminated with some oxidized Lith developer saved from the previous
 session.

 The image does not start to form on the paper until something like 5
 minutes in the developer.  (You really need to have a CD player in your
 darkroom because this can be awfully boring...)  The image 

Re: [pinhole-discussion] slit cameras?

2001-11-05 Thread Tom Miller
Hello Guy,

Click on the link below.  It should be the Welcome to the Upload Gallery 
page.  Then click the Gallery 2001 link.  The first two images, dated Nov 5,  
should be should be the ones.  

Tom 
  Tom Miller wrote: 
(My second reply to this message...) 
I posted two double-slit color images to the discussion list upload 
gallery  http://www.???/discussion/upload/

  Hi Tom, 
  Can you be more specific on the location in the Upload gallery?  I looked 
around but there was too much stuff and gave up. 
  Cheers, 
  Guy 
  


Re: [pinhole-discussion] slit cameras?

2001-11-05 Thread Guy Glorieux


Tom Miller wrote:

 (My second reply to this message...)

 I posted two double-slit color images to the discussion list upload
 gallery  http://www.???/discussion/upload/

Hi Tom,
Can you be more specific on the location in the Upload gallery?  I looked
around but there was too much stuff and gave up.
Cheers,
Guy



 They are early pieces from my Iconoclast series, which is continuing
 apace (turtle's pace?).  The images are scans of slides of 16x20
 prints.  I'm a newbie at Photoshop, but used it to try to get some
 cyan out of the His Master image that the scan put in.  There
 actually area areas of cyan and magenta in the original print, which
 is why it still looks like it does.  Slit cameras seem to scatter
 color as well as distorting the images.  I've noticed the same effect
 in other color images.

 Tom

 - Original Message -
 From: J.E. Patterson j...@lightjunkie.org
 To: pinhole-discussion@p at ???
 Sent: Monday, November 05, 2001 11:59 AM
 Subject: [pinhole-discussion] slit cameras?

  Tom Miller wrote:
   Attendees who stayed for the question/answer/network session saw
 some
   of my dual-slit color photos from the Iconclast series.
 
  Can you say more about slit cameras, or where to find out more
  about them? I noticed them in the description of an upcoming
  pinhole workshop here[at PCNW in Seattle], but I won't be able to
  attend.
 
  Cheers,
  Jane
  --
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Re: [pinhole-discussion] slit cameras?

2001-11-05 Thread Guy Glorieux
Andy,
It's like in the real life.  Ask any crooked slit how they became crooked
and they will tell you that when they were a kid they used to be straight.
But then they had these friends who would go out in the bars late at night,
etc... You know the story...!  It's the same thing all the time.  I hope
that you'll keep a close eye on your slits when you get some.  Don't let
them go out past 8:00 PM!
Cheers,
Guy

Andy Schmitt wrote:

 I realize this is a truly stupid question but how does one make crooked
 slits
 thanks
 andy

 -Original Message-
 From: pinhole-discussion-admin@p at ???
 [mailto:pinhole-discussion-admin@p at ???]On Behalf Of Tom Miller
 Sent: Monday, November 05, 2001 5:11 PM
 To: pinhole-discussion@p at ???
 Subject: Re: [pinhole-discussion] slit cameras?

 Hi Jane,

 A slit is an elongated pinhole that, like a round pinhole, is an image
 forming device.  A slit is about the same width as the diameter of a
 pinhole, but can be up to 2.5 to 3 long for a 4x5 negative.  The
 slit can be a straight line: horizontal, vertical or diagonal.  The
 image formed will take the characteristics of the slit.  If the slit
 is horizontal, the image will be wider than normal; if it vertical,
 the image will be taller than normal.  The fun part of slit
 photography is using curved and zig-zag and right-angle and
 question-mark-shaped and other wacky slits.  Tf there are two slits
 between the image and the film plane, the image will take on
 characteristics of both slits.  This is the second and truly fun part.
 The resulting images are so distorted!

 There isn't a good description of slit photography that I've found on
 the internet (yet).  Good descriptions of slit photography and great
 resulting images are in the Pinhole Journal, vol 15 #1 and in Eric
 Renner's book Pinhole Photography, Rediscovering a Historic
 Technique.  There's more about slits in the second edition than the
 first.  Eric and Nancy at Pinhole Resource sell the Cardozo slit
 camera on their website www.pinholeresource.com.  There is a picture
 of the camera on their products page.

 Tom

 - Original Message -
 From: J.E. Patterson j...@lightjunkie.org
 To: pinhole-discussion@p at ???
 Sent: Monday, November 05, 2001 11:59 AM
 Subject: [pinhole-discussion] slit cameras?

  Tom Miller wrote:
   Attendees who stayed for the question/answer/network session saw
 some
   of my dual-slit color photos from the Iconclast series.
 
  Can you say more about slit cameras, or where to find out more
  about them? I noticed them in the description of an upcoming
  pinhole workshop here[at PCNW in Seattle], but I won't be able to
  attend.
 
  Cheers,
  Jane
  --
  J.E. Patterson
  www.lightjunkie.org | www.luxumbradei.com
 
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Re: [pinhole-discussion] slit cameras?

2001-11-05 Thread Tom Miller
I followed Marnie Cardozo's suggestions in the Pinhole Journal and
made slits out of ortho/litho film.  Hung the film in a south window
for a week and developed it in stock Dektol for, well, a long time.
It is opaque and can be cut with a sharp scissors into remarkable
shapes.  (I got the film from Freestyle a couple of years ago.

Tom

- Original Message -
From: Andy Schmitt aschm...@warwick.net
To: pinhole-discussion@p at ???
Sent: Monday, November 05, 2001 8:13 PM
Subject: RE: [pinhole-discussion] slit cameras?


 I realize this is a truly stupid question but how does one make
crooked
 slits
 thanks
 andy






Re: [pinhole-discussion] slit cameras?

2001-11-05 Thread Tom Miller
(My second reply to this message...)

I posted two double-slit color images to the discussion list upload
gallery  http://www.???/discussion/upload/

They are early pieces from my Iconoclast series, which is continuing
apace (turtle's pace?).  The images are scans of slides of 16x20
prints.  I'm a newbie at Photoshop, but used it to try to get some
cyan out of the His Master image that the scan put in.  There
actually area areas of cyan and magenta in the original print, which
is why it still looks like it does.  Slit cameras seem to scatter
color as well as distorting the images.  I've noticed the same effect
in other color images.

Tom

- Original Message -
From: J.E. Patterson j...@lightjunkie.org
To: pinhole-discussion@p at ???
Sent: Monday, November 05, 2001 11:59 AM
Subject: [pinhole-discussion] slit cameras?


 Tom Miller wrote:
  Attendees who stayed for the question/answer/network session saw
some
  of my dual-slit color photos from the Iconclast series.

 Can you say more about slit cameras, or where to find out more
 about them? I noticed them in the description of an upcoming
 pinhole workshop here[at PCNW in Seattle], but I won't be able to
 attend.

 Cheers,
 Jane
 --
 J.E. Patterson
 www.lightjunkie.org | www.luxumbradei.com

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RE: [pinhole-discussion] slit cameras?

2001-11-05 Thread Andy Schmitt
I realize this is a truly stupid question but how does one make crooked
slits
thanks
andy

-Original Message-
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[mailto:pinhole-discussion-admin@p at ???]On Behalf Of Tom Miller
Sent: Monday, November 05, 2001 5:11 PM
To: pinhole-discussion@p at ???
Subject: Re: [pinhole-discussion] slit cameras?


Hi Jane,

A slit is an elongated pinhole that, like a round pinhole, is an image
forming device.  A slit is about the same width as the diameter of a
pinhole, but can be up to 2.5 to 3 long for a 4x5 negative.  The
slit can be a straight line: horizontal, vertical or diagonal.  The
image formed will take the characteristics of the slit.  If the slit
is horizontal, the image will be wider than normal; if it vertical,
the image will be taller than normal.  The fun part of slit
photography is using curved and zig-zag and right-angle and
question-mark-shaped and other wacky slits.  Tf there are two slits
between the image and the film plane, the image will take on
characteristics of both slits.  This is the second and truly fun part.
The resulting images are so distorted!

There isn't a good description of slit photography that I've found on
the internet (yet).  Good descriptions of slit photography and great
resulting images are in the Pinhole Journal, vol 15 #1 and in Eric
Renner's book Pinhole Photography, Rediscovering a Historic
Technique.  There's more about slits in the second edition than the
first.  Eric and Nancy at Pinhole Resource sell the Cardozo slit
camera on their website www.pinholeresource.com.  There is a picture
of the camera on their products page.

Tom

- Original Message -
From: J.E. Patterson j...@lightjunkie.org
To: pinhole-discussion@p at ???
Sent: Monday, November 05, 2001 11:59 AM
Subject: [pinhole-discussion] slit cameras?


 Tom Miller wrote:
  Attendees who stayed for the question/answer/network session saw
some
  of my dual-slit color photos from the Iconclast series.

 Can you say more about slit cameras, or where to find out more
 about them? I noticed them in the description of an upcoming
 pinhole workshop here[at PCNW in Seattle], but I won't be able to
 attend.

 Cheers,
 Jane
 --
 J.E. Patterson
 www.lightjunkie.org | www.luxumbradei.com

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[pinhole-discussion] What is Lith Printing? Lith Printing 101

2001-11-05 Thread Guy Glorieux
Hi Leezy,

You asked for it, so here it is: Lith Printing 101!  A bit long but
thorough...

Lith printing is a process which allows you to produce wonderful color
shades on chlorobromide-silver emulsion BW fiber-based paper (e.g.
Forte PolyWarmtone) using highly diluted Lithographic developer..

With this process, and depending on the type of paper you use (Forte vs
Luminos vs Foma), the shadows will print in dark earth tones and the
mid-tones will print in peach or olive-green shades.  The effect will be
somewhat similar to split toning.  Further tones can be achieved with
selenium or gold toning and/or with advanced chemistry kits.

1. THE PROCESS

The paper is overexposed by several stops under the enlarger and then
processed for a period of between 8 to 20 minutes - with constant
agitation - in highly dilute Lith developer (Kodalith A+B will do, but
there are some more sophisticated developer available) which has been
contaminated with some oxidized Lith developer saved from the previous
session.

The image does not start to form on the paper until something like 5
minutes in the developer.  (You really need to have a CD player in your
darkroom because this can be awfully boring...)  The image then builds
up very gradually until a rather special reaction begins to occur in the
shadow areas, spreading slowly then rapidly to the mid-tone and
eventually the highlights.

The art is to anticipate when the reaction will be just enough for your
print to be a gallery print but not so much that it turns into a garbage
print...  You usually only have a few seconds to make that choice.  The
trick is that the contrast of the print will markedly increase (or
sometimes diminish) when the print moves from the developer tray and
sits in the fix bath for a few seconds...  Then and only then can you
tell if you've got a good print or a bad print.

The other trick is that the developer oxidizes rapidly both because it
is in the open and because it is used to process prints.  Which means
that the second print you process in the tray will not look like the
first one...  So you always have to be on the lookout for what is
happening in the developer tray.

Another peculiarity of this process is that exposure time controls the
contrast of your print and processing time controls the lightness or
darkness of the print.  So you don't use any filtration in the enlarger
to control contrast.  The longer you expose under the enlarger, the less
contrasty your print will be and vice-versa.  This means that you can
achieve contrast grades far in excess of Grade 5.  Sometimes this will
allow you to turn an apparently unprintable negative into a beautiful
print!  Weird... but you get accustomed to it.

2.  EXAMPLES OF LITH PRINTING

You've seen examples of what can be done with this process on my
exhibition site at:
http://music.barnesandnoble.com/search/product.asp?ean=74646304624
and on Erich's Fotair site at:
http://www.fotair.de/
You obviously want also to see our own Robert Mann's outstanding pinhole
work at:
http://www.thencamenow.com/
I also recommend checking the beautiful prints at the Moersch
Photochemie's site:
http://www.moersch-photochemie.de/html_english/index_english.htm

For more detailed information, check SilverPrint's web site: What is
Lith Printing?
http://www.silverprint.co.uk/whatis.html
This shows significant extracts from Tim Rudman's key book The Master
Photographer's Lith Printing Course.  This is the bible for anybody
involved in this process.


3. SPECIAL CONSIDERATIONS

Please take note that this process is not cheap.  Chlorobromide-silver
paper is expensive and some of the fine Lith developers need to be
imported from Europe at significant cost.  One Canadian firm distributes
the excellent Moersch Developer (Eight Elm Photo at
http://www.eightelmphoto.com/ and they would likely be very happy to
ship in the US).

Please take note that Lith Printing is an addictive process.  Once you
begin, you won't be able to turn back to traditional BW printing.  If
you go this route, please warn your spouse of the dangers that you will
frequently erupt from the darkroom screaming and cursing the world and
occasionally come out in a state of pure ecstasy from seeing what you
can do to an otherwise unprintable negative.

Hope this answers your questions and it this will entice you into this
marvelous darkroom process...  -:))

Cheers,

Guy




Re: [pinhole-discussion] Cool News

2001-11-05 Thread Kosinski Family
Thanks to Guillermo and YAHOO to Rosanne!
Jim K

- Original Message - 
From: Guillermo pen...@home.com
To: pinhole-discussion@p at ???
Sent: Monday, November 05, 2001 8:30 AM
Subject: Re: [pinhole-discussion] Cool News


 
 - Original Message -
 From: Gordy Emery geme...@hotmail.com
 To: pinhole-discussion@p at ???
 Sent: Monday, November 05, 2001 7:49 AM
 Subject: Re: [pinhole-discussion] Cool News
 
 
  WHAT IS THIS?
  
  YAHOO!
 
 YAHOO:
 
 Yet
 Another
 Hierarchical
 Officious/
 Obstreperous/
 Odiferous/
 Organized
 Oracle.
 
 It also NOW is used as a shout of joy, perhaps in a similar way you would
 say HURRA.
 
 Guillermo
 
 
 
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RE: [pinhole-discussion] 'nother question - cylindrical oatmeal vessels

2001-11-05 Thread Andy Schmitt
I have been using the new model with no real problems after I painted the
inside of the lid...
andy

-Original Message-
From: pinhole-discussion-admin@p at ???
[mailto:pinhole-discussion-admin@p at ???]On Behalf Of Murray
Sent: Monday, November 05, 2001 5:56 PM
To: pinhole-discussion@p at ???
Subject: [pinhole-discussion] 'nother question - cylindrical oatmeal
vessels


Hello:

What has made the cylindrical oatmeal vessel fall from favor? Is it the
translucent lid vs. the old opaque one that fully sealed the end?

Murray


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[pinhole-discussion] 'nother question - cylindrical oatmeal vessels

2001-11-05 Thread Murray
Hello:

What has made the cylindrical oatmeal vessel fall from favor? Is it the
translucent lid vs. the old opaque one that fully sealed the end?

Murray




Re: [pinhole-discussion] slit cameras?

2001-11-05 Thread Tom Miller
Hi Jane,

A slit is an elongated pinhole that, like a round pinhole, is an image
forming device.  A slit is about the same width as the diameter of a
pinhole, but can be up to 2.5 to 3 long for a 4x5 negative.  The
slit can be a straight line: horizontal, vertical or diagonal.  The
image formed will take the characteristics of the slit.  If the slit
is horizontal, the image will be wider than normal; if it vertical,
the image will be taller than normal.  The fun part of slit
photography is using curved and zig-zag and right-angle and
question-mark-shaped and other wacky slits.  Tf there are two slits
between the image and the film plane, the image will take on
characteristics of both slits.  This is the second and truly fun part.
The resulting images are so distorted!

There isn't a good description of slit photography that I've found on
the internet (yet).  Good descriptions of slit photography and great
resulting images are in the Pinhole Journal, vol 15 #1 and in Eric
Renner's book Pinhole Photography, Rediscovering a Historic
Technique.  There's more about slits in the second edition than the
first.  Eric and Nancy at Pinhole Resource sell the Cardozo slit
camera on their website www.pinholeresource.com.  There is a picture
of the camera on their products page.

Tom

- Original Message -
From: J.E. Patterson j...@lightjunkie.org
To: pinhole-discussion@p at ???
Sent: Monday, November 05, 2001 11:59 AM
Subject: [pinhole-discussion] slit cameras?


 Tom Miller wrote:
  Attendees who stayed for the question/answer/network session saw
some
  of my dual-slit color photos from the Iconclast series.

 Can you say more about slit cameras, or where to find out more
 about them? I noticed them in the description of an upcoming
 pinhole workshop here[at PCNW in Seattle], but I won't be able to
 attend.

 Cheers,
 Jane
 --
 J.E. Patterson
 www.lightjunkie.org | www.luxumbradei.com

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Re: [pinhole-discussion] Back again...

2001-11-05 Thread B2MYOUNG
In a message dated 11/4/01 10:13:34 PM, guy.glori...@sympatico.ca writes:

 Contact me if you want additional information. 

Consider yourself contacted.
Thanks,
leezy



RE: [pinhole-discussion] digital panoramic strip camera

2001-11-05 Thread Andy Schmitt
I'll dig it out  shoot a scan...


-Original Message-
From: pinhole-discussion-admin@p at ???
[mailto:pinhole-discussion-admin@p at ???]On Behalf Of Guy Glorieux
Sent: Monday, November 05, 2001 2:19 PM
To: pinhole-discussion@p at ???
Subject: Re: [pinhole-discussion] digital panoramic strip camera


Hey Andy!
I've seen the work that Andy Davidhazy does with a regular film camera using
this process.  Didn't realize that he had moved digital with this kind of
process.  The images are really interesting (weird?).
Any chance that you might post your portrait somewhere on the web that we
can see it?
Cheers,
Guy
- Original Message -
From: Andy Schmitt aschm...@warwick.net
To: pinhole-discussion@p at ???
Sent: Monday, November 05, 2001 2:05 PM
Subject: RE: [pinhole-discussion] digital panoramic strip camera


 Ah yes
 He was at the Photo show in NYC last week with his strip Polaroid. It is
 really a neat image since he has you stand on a turntable that is mowing
at
 the same speed as the film is pulled past the slot. He made me look even
 weirder than normal 8o).
 andy

 -Original Message-
 From: pinhole-discussion-admin@p at ???
 [mailto:pinhole-discussion-admin@p at ???]On Behalf Of Gordon J.
 Holtslander
 Sent: Monday, November 05, 2001 10:48 AM
 To: pinhole-discussion@p at ???
 Subject: [pinhole-discussion] digital panoramic strip camera


 This is a site on converting a scanner into a digital camera.  The site
 below used lenses, but one could do this with a pinhole.

 It makes a digital panoramic strip camera with a scanner.

 http://www.rit.edu/~andpph/text-better-scanner-cam.html

 Gord

   Jack Duganne wrote:
  
Greetings!
   
Has anyone seen tutorials or articles relating to making digital
 pinhole
cameras or at least using a digital camera/digital back to create
  pinhole
pictures?
  
   Hey!  The ancients meet the moderns!  ...-:))
  
   Some time ago, I gave a pinhole workshop and one of the participant
was
  using
   a 35mm Nikon digital camera with a pinhole on the bodycap.  This is
the
   easiest, if you happen to have a digital camera with interchangeable
  lenses
   or if you can have access to one.
  
   He had some interesting results, but if my memory is correct,  there
was
 a
   fair amount of noise on the images due to the low levels of light
  hitting
   the digital emulsion.  He had posted some images on the web, but I
 seem
  to
   have lost the URL.
  
   Cheers,
  
   Guy
  
  
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Re: [pinhole-discussion] digital panoramic strip camera

2001-11-05 Thread Guy Glorieux
Hey Andy!
I've seen the work that Andy Davidhazy does with a regular film camera using
this process.  Didn't realize that he had moved digital with this kind of
process.  The images are really interesting (weird?).
Any chance that you might post your portrait somewhere on the web that we
can see it?
Cheers,
Guy
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From: Andy Schmitt aschm...@warwick.net
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Sent: Monday, November 05, 2001 2:05 PM
Subject: RE: [pinhole-discussion] digital panoramic strip camera


 Ah yes
 He was at the Photo show in NYC last week with his strip Polaroid. It is
 really a neat image since he has you stand on a turntable that is mowing
at
 the same speed as the film is pulled past the slot. He made me look even
 weirder than normal 8o).
 andy

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 From: pinhole-discussion-admin@p at ???
 [mailto:pinhole-discussion-admin@p at ???]On Behalf Of Gordon J.
 Holtslander
 Sent: Monday, November 05, 2001 10:48 AM
 To: pinhole-discussion@p at ???
 Subject: [pinhole-discussion] digital panoramic strip camera


 This is a site on converting a scanner into a digital camera.  The site
 below used lenses, but one could do this with a pinhole.

 It makes a digital panoramic strip camera with a scanner.

 http://www.rit.edu/~andpph/text-better-scanner-cam.html

 Gord

   Jack Duganne wrote:
  
Greetings!
   
Has anyone seen tutorials or articles relating to making digital
 pinhole
cameras or at least using a digital camera/digital back to create
  pinhole
pictures?
  
   Hey!  The ancients meet the moderns!  ...-:))
  
   Some time ago, I gave a pinhole workshop and one of the participant
was
  using
   a 35mm Nikon digital camera with a pinhole on the bodycap.  This is
the
   easiest, if you happen to have a digital camera with interchangeable
  lenses
   or if you can have access to one.
  
   He had some interesting results, but if my memory is correct,  there
was
 a
   fair amount of noise on the images due to the low levels of light
  hitting
   the digital emulsion.  He had posted some images on the web, but I
 seem
  to
   have lost the URL.
  
   Cheers,
  
   Guy
  
  
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RE: [pinhole-discussion] digital panoramic strip camera

2001-11-05 Thread Andy Schmitt
Ah yes
He was at the Photo show in NYC last week with his strip Polaroid. It is
really a neat image since he has you stand on a turntable that is mowing at
the same speed as the film is pulled past the slot. He made me look even
weirder than normal 8o).
andy

-Original Message-
From: pinhole-discussion-admin@p at ???
[mailto:pinhole-discussion-admin@p at ???]On Behalf Of Gordon J.
Holtslander
Sent: Monday, November 05, 2001 10:48 AM
To: pinhole-discussion@p at ???
Subject: [pinhole-discussion] digital panoramic strip camera


This is a site on converting a scanner into a digital camera.  The site
below used lenses, but one could do this with a pinhole.

It makes a digital panoramic strip camera with a scanner.

http://www.rit.edu/~andpph/text-better-scanner-cam.html

Gord

  Jack Duganne wrote:
 
   Greetings!
  
   Has anyone seen tutorials or articles relating to making digital
pinhole
   cameras or at least using a digital camera/digital back to create
 pinhole
   pictures?
 
  Hey!  The ancients meet the moderns!  ...-:))
 
  Some time ago, I gave a pinhole workshop and one of the participant was
 using
  a 35mm Nikon digital camera with a pinhole on the bodycap.  This is the
  easiest, if you happen to have a digital camera with interchangeable
 lenses
  or if you can have access to one.
 
  He had some interesting results, but if my memory is correct,  there was
a
  fair amount of noise on the images due to the low levels of light
 hitting
  the digital emulsion.  He had posted some images on the web, but I
seem
 to
  have lost the URL.
 
  Cheers,
 
  Guy
 
 
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RE: [pinhole-discussion] Upper Midwest Pinhole Get-together - Wow

2001-11-05 Thread Gregg Kemp
Tom - sounds like you guys had an exciting time - an impressive gathering and 
program.  Thanks for letting us know how things turned out. 

Gregg

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 Sent: Monday, November 05, 2001 10:47 AM
 To: pinhole-discussion@p at ???
 Subject: [pinhole-discussion] Upper Midwest Pinhole Get-together - Wow
 
 
 Dear All,
 
 Bill Erickson and I would like to thank all who participated in
 yesterday's Pinhole: Informal Forum, also known as the Upper
 Midwest Pinhole Get-together, at the pARTs Photographic Arts Gallery
 in Minneapolis.   The event was a success and an inspiration for both
 presenters and attendees.  Also thanks to Gregg Kemp for providing
 internet space on his site and in the Pinhole Visions for the for
 forum announcement.
 
 Chris Faust presented work from a series he created about ten years
 ago that placed pinhole cameras in the perspective of a child and
 viewed the world from this playful vantage point.  His work included
 an 360-degree, 18 foot long print taken from the inside of a playpen
 by a Cirkut camera fitted with a zone plate.  This image is also in
 Pinhole Journal, vol 12 #3.  List member Eric Nelson discussed how he
 incorporates pinhole photography into his junior high art classes.  He
 also showed several of his own and his students' images.  Derrick
 Burbul, from the University of Minnesota, Duluth, showed his
 multi-pinhole camera that takes five 4x5 exposures at once, as well as
 images made with the camera.  John Campbell
 (http://www.pinholeday.org/2001/photo_79.html) showed his work done
 mostly with pinholes mounted on Leicas and also on a Nikon digital
 camera.  Andrew Kamin (www.pinholeplanet.com) demonstrated his
 prototype dual focal length 4x5 camera and showed several
 transparancies made with this camera.  Bill Erickson presented several
 platinum prints and a cyanotype from recent travel to Ireland.
 Attendees who stayed for the question/answer/network session saw some
 of my dual-slit color photos from the Iconclast series.
 
 The pARTs Gallery staff was excited by the enthusiastic turnout.  I'll
 be working with them on the possibility of having pARTs be a local /
 regional center for next year's Pinhole Day.
 
 Tom Miller
 
 
 
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[pinhole-discussion] slit cameras?

2001-11-05 Thread J.E. Patterson
Tom Miller wrote:
 Attendees who stayed for the question/answer/network session saw some
 of my dual-slit color photos from the Iconclast series.

Can you say more about slit cameras, or where to find out more 
about them? I noticed them in the description of an upcoming 
pinhole workshop here[at PCNW in Seattle], but I won't be able to 
attend.

Cheers,
Jane
-- 
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Re: [pinhole-discussion] Upper Midwest Pinhole Get-together - Wow

2001-11-05 Thread Guy Glorieux
Bravo, Tom!
I wish I could have been there.  It must have been really great to see all
this work and the people who actually did it.
Keep up this great work and indeed try to get it lined up with the 2nd
Worldwide Pinhole Photography Day  on April 28, 2002.
Cheers,
Guy


Tom Miller wrote:

 Dear All,

 Bill Erickson and I would like to thank all who participated in
 yesterday's Pinhole: Informal Forum, also known as the Upper
 Midwest Pinhole Get-together, at the pARTs Photographic Arts Gallery
 in Minneapolis.   The event was a success and an inspiration for both
 presenters and attendees.  Also thanks to Gregg Kemp for providing
 internet space on his site and in the Pinhole Visions for the for
 forum announcement.

 Chris Faust presented work from a series he created about ten years
 ago that placed pinhole cameras in the perspective of a child and
 viewed the world from this playful vantage point.  His work included
 an 360-degree, 18 foot long print taken from the inside of a playpen
 by a Cirkut camera fitted with a zone plate.  This image is also in
 Pinhole Journal, vol 12 #3.  List member Eric Nelson discussed how he
 incorporates pinhole photography into his junior high art classes.  He
 also showed several of his own and his students' images.  Derrick
 Burbul, from the University of Minnesota, Duluth, showed his
 multi-pinhole camera that takes five 4x5 exposures at once, as well as
 images made with the camera.  John Campbell
 (http://www.pinholeday.org/2001/photo_79.html) showed his work done
 mostly with pinholes mounted on Leicas and also on a Nikon digital
 camera.  Andrew Kamin (www.pinholeplanet.com) demonstrated his
 prototype dual focal length 4x5 camera and showed several
 transparancies made with this camera.  Bill Erickson presented several
 platinum prints and a cyanotype from recent travel to Ireland.
 Attendees who stayed for the question/answer/network session saw some
 of my dual-slit color photos from the Iconclast series.

 The pARTs Gallery staff was excited by the enthusiastic turnout.  I'll
 be working with them on the possibility of having pARTs be a local /
 regional center for next year's Pinhole Day.

 Tom Miller

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[pinhole-discussion] digital panoramic strip camera

2001-11-05 Thread Gordon J. Holtslander
This is a site on converting a scanner into a digital camera.  The site
below used lenses, but one could do this with a pinhole.

It makes a digital panoramic strip camera with a scanner.

http://www.rit.edu/~andpph/text-better-scanner-cam.html

Gord

  Jack Duganne wrote:
 
   Greetings!
  
   Has anyone seen tutorials or articles relating to making digital pinhole
   cameras or at least using a digital camera/digital back to create
 pinhole
   pictures?
 
  Hey!  The ancients meet the moderns!  ...-:))
 
  Some time ago, I gave a pinhole workshop and one of the participant was
 using
  a 35mm Nikon digital camera with a pinhole on the bodycap.  This is the
  easiest, if you happen to have a digital camera with interchangeable
 lenses
  or if you can have access to one.
 
  He had some interesting results, but if my memory is correct,  there was a
  fair amount of noise on the images due to the low levels of light
 hitting
  the digital emulsion.  He had posted some images on the web, but I seem
 to
  have lost the URL.
 
  Cheers,
 
  Guy
 
 
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[pinhole-discussion] Upper Midwest Pinhole Get-together - Wow

2001-11-05 Thread Tom Miller
Dear All,

Bill Erickson and I would like to thank all who participated in
yesterday's Pinhole: Informal Forum, also known as the Upper
Midwest Pinhole Get-together, at the pARTs Photographic Arts Gallery
in Minneapolis.   The event was a success and an inspiration for both
presenters and attendees.  Also thanks to Gregg Kemp for providing
internet space on his site and in the Pinhole Visions for the for
forum announcement.

Chris Faust presented work from a series he created about ten years
ago that placed pinhole cameras in the perspective of a child and
viewed the world from this playful vantage point.  His work included
an 360-degree, 18 foot long print taken from the inside of a playpen
by a Cirkut camera fitted with a zone plate.  This image is also in
Pinhole Journal, vol 12 #3.  List member Eric Nelson discussed how he
incorporates pinhole photography into his junior high art classes.  He
also showed several of his own and his students' images.  Derrick
Burbul, from the University of Minnesota, Duluth, showed his
multi-pinhole camera that takes five 4x5 exposures at once, as well as
images made with the camera.  John Campbell
(http://www.pinholeday.org/2001/photo_79.html) showed his work done
mostly with pinholes mounted on Leicas and also on a Nikon digital
camera.  Andrew Kamin (www.pinholeplanet.com) demonstrated his
prototype dual focal length 4x5 camera and showed several
transparancies made with this camera.  Bill Erickson presented several
platinum prints and a cyanotype from recent travel to Ireland.
Attendees who stayed for the question/answer/network session saw some
of my dual-slit color photos from the Iconclast series.

The pARTs Gallery staff was excited by the enthusiastic turnout.  I'll
be working with them on the possibility of having pARTs be a local /
regional center for next year's Pinhole Day.

Tom Miller





Re: [pinhole-discussion] Cool News

2001-11-05 Thread Guillermo
- Original Message -
From: Gordy Emery geme...@hotmail.com
To: pinhole-discussion@p at ???
Sent: Monday, November 05, 2001 7:49 AM
Subject: Re: [pinhole-discussion] Cool News


 WHAT IS THIS?
 
 YAHOO!

YAHOO:

Yet
Another
Hierarchical
Officious/
Obstreperous/
Odiferous/
Organized
Oracle.

It also NOW is used as a shout of joy, perhaps in a similar way you would
say HURRA.

Guillermo





Re: [pinhole-discussion] Cool News

2001-11-05 Thread Gordy Emery

WHAT IS THIS?



From: Kosinski Family zin...@telenet.net
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Subject: Re: [pinhole-discussion] Cool News
Date: Sun, 4 Nov 2001 14:12:58 -0500

YAHOO!


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