[pinhole-discussion] Favorite Cameras?
Hey Everyone, I haven't yet begun to construct my first pinhole camera. I'm so busy with school work and everything. I have a question for you all. What is your favorite type of pinhole camera? i know that there are tons of ways to construct one, so i'm interested in hearing what you all use. I've got an old Minolta XG-1 and i've been thinking about maybe converting it into a little pinhole camera, any tips? Sorry for the relatively general questions. thanks, Steve
[pinhole-discussion] making contact prints
jack wrote: >Hi all. I'm a newbie to the list and to pinhole but I've been eagerly >reading the posts and picking up a few pointers. However, I have a basic >question. I've made some pinhole cameras and taken some film pictures >with each. Now I'm wanting to use some photo paper instead. I bought >some Ilford 5x7 Multigrade IV RC Deluxe MGD.44M Pearl paper. >Apparently the back of the paper is too opaque to make contact prints. Check and see if it is double weight paper. You have to ask for single weight paper and you won't have any problems. My students use the Ilford Multigrade IV RC Deluxe paper, single weight and we don't have any problems contact printing. Rosanne
[pinhole-discussion] New photo: Rome double exposure
Here is a recent double exposure: http://www.???/discussion/upload/gallery2002.php?pic=mark_interrante_rome.jpg Mark Ps. technical details: Zeroimage 6x9 pinhole Photo1 - Santa Maria Degli Angeli Church (remodeled by Michelangelo) originally the Baths of Diocletian with myself standing in the church Photo2 - View overlooking Rome from the Castle Saint Angelo in rome.
Re: [pinhole-discussion] umm (ortho-litho development)
I have just been using this formula. I got it out of the Christopher James book. It does yield very good continuous tones. I am enlarging negs using Arista lith film. A friend of mine was so impressed with it he is planning on building a 16x20 pinhole camera and using the arista film. -Bill From: jmm1...@aol.com Reply-To: pinhole-discussion@p at ??? To: pinhole-discussion@p at ??? Subject: Re: [pinhole-discussion] umm (ortho-litho development) Date: Thu, 21 Feb 2002 23:06:47 EST Use Google and look for Soemarko's LC-1. It'd designed to yield continuous tones from Ortho Litho film. John ___ Post to the list as PLAIN TEXT only - no HTML Pinhole-Discussion mailing list Pinhole-Discussion@p at ??? unsubscribe or change your account at http://www.???/discussion/ _ Send and receive Hotmail on your mobile device: http://mobile.msn.com
Re: [pinhole-discussion] paper instead of film?
- Original Message - From: "jack durrett" To: Sent: Sunday, March 03, 2002 3:11 PM Subject: [pinhole-discussion] paper instead of film? >Hi all. I'm a newbie to the list and to pinhole but I've been eagerly reading >the posts and picking up a few pointers. However, I have a basic >question. I've made some pinhole cameras and taken some film pictures >with each. Now I'm wanting to use some photo paper instead. I bought >some Ilford 5x7 Multigrade IV RC Deluxe MGD.44M Pearl paper. >Apparently the back of the paper is too opaque to make contact prints. Have you tried it and had problems? I have used it many many times and have no problems contact printing it. I now use my enlarger's light source to contact print it and adjust the print time length by changing the aperture of my enlarger's lens, but some years ago, I used a regular light bulb 25 watts about 5 feet above the contact print set up and adjusted the print time length with a regular light dimmer. If print times are too long to your liking, you can still use a higher wattage bulb. Some people use substances to make the paper more translucent, but I have had no need to do it, myself. That paper can not only be contact printed but can even be enlarged, I did this for a workshop I gave and everybody was surpriced with the result (including myself). I made a 35mm format exposure using the above paper and then enlarged it to 6x6 with my Omega D5XL, here is the result: http://members.rogers.com/penate/doll6x6.jpg >What is the best paper for this? Is paper comparable quality-wise (for >the image) or should I stick to film? Film is more forgiving and has better known reciprocity characteristics than paper, but paper is excellent emulsion for odd shaped and un-usual format sizes cameras, beside the fact that it is cheaper than film. >Sorry for so simple a question but even the best photog store here hasn't >been much help. (You should have seen the quizzical looks when I >mentioned "pinhole".) Next time try asking them about "zoneplate" lenses! Guillermo
Re: [pinhole-discussion] paper instead of film?
--- jack durrett wrote: > Hi all. I'm a newbie to the list and to pinhole but I've been eagerly > reading the posts and picking up a few pointers. However, I have a basic > question. I've made some pinhole cameras and taken some film pictures with > each. Now I'm wanting to use some photo paper instead. I bought some Ilford > 5x7 Multigrade IV RC Deluxe MGD.44M Pearl paper. Apparently the back of the > paper is too opaque to make contact prints. What is the best paper for this? > Is paper comparable quality-wise (for the image) or should I stick to film? > Sorry for so simple a question but even the best photog store here hasn't > been much help. (You should have seen the quizzical looks when I mentioned > "pinhole".) I figured I'd try paper after looking at an Oatmeal Box pinhole > site. http://www.nh.ultranet.com/~stewoody/ They used paper and the > resulting contact prints looked good. The pics look to be from the '70s > though. Maybe they made photo paper more transparent then. ;^) Jack - You can expose through the paper, it just takes considerably longer. There are ways of stripping the backing of the paper, but if you really don't want to use film (certainly, the easiest negative type with which to work) I would suggest looking at half-tone film. This is relatively cheap and can be developed with dilute Dektol (I use it in the 1+10 to 1+20 dilution, depending upon the scene). Cheers - george = Handmade Photographic Images http://DRiPInvesting.org __ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Sports - sign up for Fantasy Baseball http://sports.yahoo.com
Re: [pinhole-discussion] Hand made darkslides
Works grat now, Bill. Many thanks, Guy - Original Message - From: "Bill Erickson" To: Sent: Sunday, March 03, 2002 3:06 PM Subject: Re: [pinhole-discussion] Hand made darkslides > I changed it to plain text the last time this went around. I looked at it in > Outlook Express again. It says it's sending in plain text, but the settings > for sending mail and sending news were different. I made themthe same. the > format options thing on this message says it's plain text. let me know what > you get. > - Original Message - > From: "Guy Glorieux" > To: > Sent: Sunday, March 03, 2002 9:01 AM > Subject: Re: [pinhole-discussion] Hand made darkslides > > > > Hi Bill, > > > > May I also kindly ask that you turn your HTML (Rich-text) email to Plain > > text. > > I you are using Outlook Express, go to Format on the options on the top > > and then down the column, click on "Plain Text". You can also go to > > your address book and mark the pinhole list address as always send in > > Plain text when you go to the name tab. > > Thnaks for your attention, > > Guy Glorieux > > > > - Original Message - > > From: "Bill Erickson" > > To: > > Sent: Sunday, March 03, 2002 8:55 AM > > Subject: Re: [pinhole-discussion] Hand made darkslides > > > > > > I've tried it, can't say with much success. I was making a "film holder" > > for a daguerreotype plate by laminating succesive layers of model > > airplane plywood, using one of the thinner pieces for the dark slide. it > > worked OK for the dag because the plate is so "slow', but for film or > > photographic paper I think you'd need to add felt or something to make > > the slot more light tight. You'll also need to pay close attention to > > light tightness around the film holder and at the closed end. > > - Original Message - > > From: Myisp > > To: pinhole-discussion@p at ??? > > Sent: Sunday, March 03, 2002 4:02 AM > > Subject: [pinhole-discussion] Hand made darkslides > > > > > > Has anyone tried making their own darkslides? I am thinking of making > > a 10x8 camera and would like to be able to take more than one photo > > before returning to the darkroom. > > > > > > > > ___ > > Post to the list as PLAIN TEXT only - no HTML > > Pinhole-Discussion mailing list > > Pinhole-Discussion@p at ??? > > unsubscribe or change your account at > > http://www.???/discussion/ > > > > > ___ > Post to the list as PLAIN TEXT only - no HTML > Pinhole-Discussion mailing list > Pinhole-Discussion@p at ??? > unsubscribe or change your account at > http://www.???/discussion/
[pinhole-discussion] paper instead of film?
Hi all. I'm a newbie to the list and to pinhole but I've been eagerly reading the posts and picking up a few pointers. However, I have a basic question. I've made some pinhole cameras and taken some film pictures with each. Now I'm wanting to use some photo paper instead. I bought some Ilford 5x7 Multigrade IV RC Deluxe MGD.44M Pearl paper. Apparently the back of the paper is too opaque to make contact prints. What is the best paper for this? Is paper comparable quality-wise (for the image) or should I stick to film? Sorry for so simple a question but even the best photog store here hasn't been much help. (You should have seen the quizzical looks when I mentioned "pinhole".) I figured I'd try paper after looking at an Oatmeal Box pinhole site. http://www.nh.ultranet.com/~stewoody/ They used paper and the resulting contact prints looked good. The pics look to be from the '70s though. Maybe they made photo paper more transparent then. ;^)
Re: [pinhole-discussion] Hand made darkslides
I changed it to plain text the last time this went around. I looked at it in Outlook Express again. It says it's sending in plain text, but the settings for sending mail and sending news were different. I made themthe same. the format options thing on this message says it's plain text. let me know what you get. - Original Message - From: "Guy Glorieux" To: Sent: Sunday, March 03, 2002 9:01 AM Subject: Re: [pinhole-discussion] Hand made darkslides > Hi Bill, > > May I also kindly ask that you turn your HTML (Rich-text) email to Plain > text. > I you are using Outlook Express, go to Format on the options on the top > and then down the column, click on "Plain Text". You can also go to > your address book and mark the pinhole list address as always send in > Plain text when you go to the name tab. > Thnaks for your attention, > Guy Glorieux > > - Original Message - > From: "Bill Erickson" > To: > Sent: Sunday, March 03, 2002 8:55 AM > Subject: Re: [pinhole-discussion] Hand made darkslides > > > I've tried it, can't say with much success. I was making a "film holder" > for a daguerreotype plate by laminating succesive layers of model > airplane plywood, using one of the thinner pieces for the dark slide. it > worked OK for the dag because the plate is so "slow', but for film or > photographic paper I think you'd need to add felt or something to make > the slot more light tight. You'll also need to pay close attention to > light tightness around the film holder and at the closed end. > - Original Message - > From: Myisp > To: pinhole-discussion@p at ??? > Sent: Sunday, March 03, 2002 4:02 AM > Subject: [pinhole-discussion] Hand made darkslides > > > Has anyone tried making their own darkslides? I am thinking of making > a 10x8 camera and would like to be able to take more than one photo > before returning to the darkroom. > > > > ___ > Post to the list as PLAIN TEXT only - no HTML > Pinhole-Discussion mailing list > Pinhole-Discussion@p at ??? > unsubscribe or change your account at > http://www.???/discussion/ >
[pinhole-discussion] Making dark slides
From reading the messages on this subject it looks as if you are talking about making film holders, not dark slides. There is a significant difference. A film holder is not easy to make, but a dark slide is easily made from a piece of aluminum the proper thickness to just slide into the holder comfortably. The most inexpensive method of procuring a film holder is to find an old used one in the junk bin of a camera store. So long as the end flaps are present, they can easily be taped back on with black photographers tape. The wooden ones,especially those with metal on the end into which the dark slide is inserted, work well. Many stores think the wooden ones are no good and are willing to let them got for $10 or $12. If the dark slides are missing, they are even cheaper. Personally I prefer the wooden holders to the new plastic ones because they are less prone to light leakage due to warping. Once the holder are obtained, building a pinhole, or other, camera around them is very simple. Jim
Re: [pinhole-discussion] Size and usefulness of 'viewing' pinhole
It was suggested to me that you start with the aperture that would be the equivalent of f16 for your focal length. Then depending on the type of ground glass you are using there may be the possibility of experimenting with a smaller aperture. This worked quite well for me when composing. You would have to let us know what it does in regard to view camera movements. I have no idea what the effect of rise and fall etc. would be with a pinhole. Ballard From: CXC Reply-To: pinhole-discussion@p at ??? To: pinhole-discussion@p at ??? Subject: [pinhole-discussion] Size and usefulness of 'viewing' pinhole Date: Sun, 03 Mar 2002 11:08:28 -0800 I am interested in putting a pinhole on a large format (5x7) camera in order to utilize rise/fall to change perspective. I would like to be able to see the results of the pinhole shift on the ground glass of a conventional LF camera, but of course the actual 'taking' pinhole does not allow enough light through to see anything. I have heard tell of a 'viewing' pinhole, presumably for exactly my purpose. I presume it is oversized enough to provide a visible image. Has anyone used a viewing pinhole? If so, do they actually work? Is there a formula or starting point for finding the correct viewing hole size, say for 125mm taking hole? Would I be way better off using a comparable lens for composition? I am assuming that be the viewer a pinhole or a lens, the coverage of the taking pinhole would have to be determined by trial and error. TIA, CXC ___ Post to the list as PLAIN TEXT only - no HTML Pinhole-Discussion mailing list Pinhole-Discussion@p at ??? unsubscribe or change your account at http://www.???/discussion/ _ Chat with friends online, try MSN Messenger: http://messenger.msn.com
[pinhole-discussion] Size and usefulness of 'viewing' pinhole
I am interested in putting a pinhole on a large format (5x7) camera in order to utilize rise/fall to change perspective. I would like to be able to see the results of the pinhole shift on the ground glass of a conventional LF camera, but of course the actual 'taking' pinhole does not allow enough light through to see anything. I have heard tell of a 'viewing' pinhole, presumably for exactly my purpose. I presume it is oversized enough to provide a visible image. Has anyone used a viewing pinhole? If so, do they actually work? Is there a formula or starting point for finding the correct viewing hole size, say for 125mm taking hole? Would I be way better off using a comparable lens for composition? I am assuming that be the viewer a pinhole or a lens, the coverage of the taking pinhole would have to be determined by trial and error. TIA, CXC
Re: [pinhole-discussion] Hand made darkslides
- Original Message - From: "Myisp" >Has anyone tried making their own darkslides? I am thinking of making a 10x8 >camera and would like to be able to take more than one photo before returning >to the darkroom. All modern 10x8 (AKA 8x10) film holders let you make 2 exposures per holder and you can get as many film holders as you want, therefore, the number of exposures you can make before returning to your darkroom is limited only by the number of film holders you can carry or afford to buy. How, having more darkslides than the 2 darkslides each 10x8 film holder comes with would help you increase that number? In any case, I see darkslides alone being auctioned at eBay from time to time. Jay Bender, also sells 10x8 darkslides he cuts to 10x4 for 2 panoramic exposures with each 10x8 film holder, I am pretty sure he can sell you uncut darkslides, too. I know you want to make your own, but finding material with the right thickness may be difficult. Here is a picture of the "cut" 10x8 darkslide at Jay Bender site: http://www.benderphoto.com/4x10pa.htm Guillermo
Re: [pinhole-discussion] Hand made darkslides
Hi Bill, May I also kindly ask that you turn your HTML (Rich-text) email to Plain text. I you are using Outlook Express, go to Format on the options on the top and then down the column, click on "Plain Text". You can also go to your address book and mark the pinhole list address as always send in Plain text when you go to the name tab. Thnaks for your attention, Guy Glorieux - Original Message - From: "Bill Erickson" To: Sent: Sunday, March 03, 2002 8:55 AM Subject: Re: [pinhole-discussion] Hand made darkslides I've tried it, can't say with much success. I was making a "film holder" for a daguerreotype plate by laminating succesive layers of model airplane plywood, using one of the thinner pieces for the dark slide. it worked OK for the dag because the plate is so "slow', but for film or photographic paper I think you'd need to add felt or something to make the slot more light tight. You'll also need to pay close attention to light tightness around the film holder and at the closed end. - Original Message - From: Myisp To: pinhole-discussion@p at ??? Sent: Sunday, March 03, 2002 4:02 AM Subject: [pinhole-discussion] Hand made darkslides Has anyone tried making their own darkslides? I am thinking of making a 10x8 camera and would like to be able to take more than one photo before returning to the darkroom.
Re: [pinhole-discussion] Hand made darkslides
I've tried it, can't say with much success. I was making a "film holder" for a daguerreotype plate by laminating succesive layers of model airplane plywood, using one of the thinner pieces for the dark slide. it worked OK for the dag because the plate is so "slow', but for film or photographic paper I think you'd need to add felt or something to make the slot more light tight. You'll also need to pay close attention to light tightness around the film holder and at the closed end. - Original Message - From: Myisp To: pinhole-discussion@p at ??? Sent: Sunday, March 03, 2002 4:02 AM Subject: [pinhole-discussion] Hand made darkslides Has anyone tried making their own darkslides? I am thinking of making a 10x8 camera and would like to be able to take more than one photo before returning to the darkroom.
[pinhole-discussion] HTML-based emails (was: Hand made darkslides)
Hi Thanks for participating with your questions/comments in the pinhole list. Just a quick reminder that HTML-based email messages are not permitted on the list. For those who do not have an HTML converter and /or when stored in the archives, HTML-based messages are barely understandable. It should be aeasy to turn of this function on your browser when you post to the list. If you need any help, please don't hesitate to ask any of us. Thanks and best wishes, Guy Glorieux P.S. To illustrate what HTML-based emails look like when not concerted, I took the liberty of posting the unconverted version below: Has anyone tried making their own = darkslides? =20 I am thinking of making a 10x8 camera and would like to be able to take = more=20 than one photo before returning to the = darkroom. --=_NextPart_000_0019_01C1C29A.7759A3C0-- - Original Message - From: "Myisp" To: Sent: Sunday, March 03, 2002 5:02 AM Subject: [pinhole-discussion] Hand made darkslides Has anyone tried making their own darkslides? I am thinking of making a 10x8 camera and would like to be able to take more than one photo before returning to the darkroom.
Re: [pinhole-discussion] Hand made darkslides
Dear Stephen There is an excellent book by Alan Greene called "Primitive Photography - A Guide to Making Cameras, Lenses and Calotypes" published by Focal Press. www.focalpress.com I paid £22.50 for it here in the UK. It shows how to make a camera and the dark slide section is very good with some easy solutions to problems. There is also a flatpack camera to make. The only this is that the dark slides are quite bulky but it is not really a problem unless you are hiking up the Everest. Alexis on 3/3/02 10:02 am, Myisp at sci...@myisp.co.uk wrote: Has anyone tried making their own darkslides? I am thinking of making a 10x8 camera and would like to be able to take more than one photo before returning to the darkroom.
[pinhole-discussion] Hand made darkslides
Has anyone tried making their own darkslides? I am thinking of making a 10x8 camera and would like to be able to take more than one photo before returning to the darkroom.
[pinhole-discussion] Questions about my photo's
Thanks to everyone who visited my website and for the interesting comments. To answer a few questions:- I have used lots of different cameras. Most of the photo's are taken with a Zero Image Zero 2000 and a Zero Image 6x9 multiformat camera. The 2000 has a 20mm focal length and I think the 6x9 is 40mm. Yesterday I used the 4x5 multiformat Zero Image camera for the first time. I can choose either a 20mm or 40mm focal length. If the photo's look OK I will put some on my website. I have also used various flat and round tins and a beer can. When I get some time I will add a page with some details about the cameras. The green tree was manipulated using photoshop. The original colour was a bit dull so I had a fiddle with the Hue settings and liked the result. The vertical lines are interesting. I have read something about them before but I can't remember what the explanation was. I don't understand why the lines are so straight. http://www.s-rees.co.uk/pinhole/pinhole.htm
