Re: [pinhole-discussion] The panopin

2003-04-21 Thread CJ Rumpolo
No I fully understand it would be unfair (if not illegal) to use someone
elses ideas without consent. I really have no plans on stealing another
person's hard work and design. I tend to look at things I like, then try to
make them myself. Call it a test of my thinking skills. My current design is
from another person's website but have run into a snag of film transport.
 Today I pretty much considered on giving up the whole project and just stay
with the camera I have. I figure if I am using a 4x5 camera and I make a
mask to give me two images of 2 x 5 on one sheet of film then I can enlarge
the negative to pretty much panoramic scale. The only thing I was thinking
about was the curved film plane. I am guessing lenses use their curvature to
correct for this and pinholes need the curved film plane to make the image
appear as seen.
I tried to email Kurt from his site, hoping to purchase a camera, but
the email was returned as an invalid email address. I even emailed the
company that makes the panopin camera but no response and I really do not
want to order something from a company that I do not know is still in
business. 
Other plans I had were to purchase an old view camera and convert it to
a really expensive pinhole camera. Or make up a fixed focal length large
format camera using a 65 mm lens. Regardless, of my ramblings and
tinkerings, I guess I should just take pictures more than design cameras.
Then again I should use Mr. Au's camera more often as well. Its really a
nicely made device, though I think its focal length is a bit too wide to my
style of photography. Anyhow thanks for the reply. And if you can get in
contact with Kurt let him know he might very well have a customer. Enjoy the
rest of your day. CJ




Re: [pinhole-discussion] The panopin

2003-04-21 Thread James Kellar
I would be happy to send you some images of the camera, but I need to 
check with Kurt to make sure it's OK with him. I don't know if you are 
aware of a problem that Zernike Au of the Zero Camera Company has had 
with having his design stolen. I'll let you know when I hear back from 
Kurt.


James


On Monday, April 21, 2003, at 08:15  AM, CJ Rumpolo wrote:


On 4/20/03 8:25 PM, "James Kellar"  wrote:

I happen to be the proud owner of Mottweiler Design pinoramic camera. 
I
don't think Kurt Mottweiler is making the camera, but you can see it 
at

http://www.cnsp.com/mdesign/. It is a great camera.


Thanks for the reply, I checked out the site and indeed the cameras 
look

really nice. Is there any chance for you to send me a few shots of the
camera. I am still in the design phase of my camera and wanted to see 
how

the film advance mechanism worked as well as if there is a curved back
support to the film. As of now I have plans and a foam board prototype 
that
I am am still messing with to no avail. Thanks for the reply. Heck if 
I can
make this out of foam board or even thin plywood I would be happy to 
set up

an extension to my site and let the world know how it is done.


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[pinhole-discussion] Re: Pinhole-Discussion digest, Vol 1 #875 - 16 msgs

2003-04-21 Thread Uptown Gallery
I got a round container from someone at work today - I eat the square ones.

Looks like 2-7/8" mat circle will fit inside bottom, a little loose in the
lid.

Tell me what you hoep to accomplish with a mat and I'll see if my cutter
will do it.

Murray


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[pinhole-discussion] Image not filling out paper

2003-04-21 Thread Rauch, Shelley
Okay... another newbie question.

One of the cameras that I am using is an oversized oatmeal can.  I'm using 8X10 
paper, which fits perfectly when placed horizontally.

The image isn't taking up the entire area, and I'm wondering what exactly 
causes this, and what I can do to get it closer to the edges.

Here is an example of what I'm talking about:  
http://www.pbase.com/image/15725356

Shelley C. Rauch
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(757)890-5116
Tabb-York County Public Library
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Yorktown, VA 23693-4138





RE: [pinhole-discussion] Re: negative scanner

2003-04-21 Thread Rauch, Shelley
I'm in the process of trying to pull together a closet darkroom, though I am 
still sans enlarger. 

This is quite interesting though, and may save me some frustration, and time, 
in the future.

Thanks.  

-Original Message-
From: D. Hill [mailto:zopp...@yahoo.com]
  With a good scanner and a decent
printer running quadtones, you have possibilities not
available in the average closet darkroom.  

My .02 C...

Don





[pinhole-discussion] Re: negative scanner

2003-04-21 Thread D. Hill
Shelley,

I am still quite the novice with film scanning. 
However, I have used various scanners with good
results.  I do not know if you really need a high-end
film scanner.  It seems the all of the newer flatbed
epson scanners with transparency adapters work quite
well for most purposes.  The epson 2450 and 3200 have
transparency adapters built into the lid and will
accomodate negatives up to 4 inches by 9 inches and
have great resolution and sharpness.  I have tested
this against images made from Photo CD's and a Nikon
Coolscan IV - and can honestly say that the epson does
a better job.  Also, I am getting great results from
negatives that I thought were unprintable (that is
most of my pinhole images).  

One item that I want to include is that I shoot mainly
35mm pinhole and develop with acufine or similar high
acutance developers.  It is difficult to enlarge these
images, because the grain of the film really sticks
out and it is easily apparent if one part of the image
is out of focus.  Most enlargers (under $2500) do not
allow for very accurate alignment (call this anal or
obsessive behaviour) giving the image a true
sharpness.  I have not had the same problems with
digital imaging.  With a good scanner and a decent
printer running quadtones, you have possibilities not
available in the average closet darkroom.  

My .02 C...

Don


--- "Rauch, Shelley"  wrote:
> Don,
> 
> I would like to find out some more information about
> scanning negatives.  Do you need a specialized
> scanner to do this, or merely something 'high-end'?
> 
> Thanks, 
> Shelley


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Re: [pinhole-discussion] The panopin

2003-04-21 Thread CJ Rumpolo
On 4/20/03 8:25 PM, "James Kellar"  wrote:

> I happen to be the proud owner of Mottweiler Design pinoramic camera. I
> don't think Kurt Mottweiler is making the camera, but you can see it at
> http://www.cnsp.com/mdesign/. It is a great camera.

Thanks for the reply, I checked out the site and indeed the cameras look
really nice. Is there any chance for you to send me a few shots of the
camera. I am still in the design phase of my camera and wanted to see how
the film advance mechanism worked as well as if there is a curved back
support to the film. As of now I have plans and a foam board prototype that
I am am still messing with to no avail. Thanks for the reply. Heck if I can
make this out of foam board or even thin plywood I would be happy to set up
an extension to my site and let the world know how it is done.




RE: [pinhole-discussion] (no subject)

2003-04-21 Thread Rauch, Shelley
Altoids are a 'curiously strong' brand of mints.  They come in little tins.  

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Sent: Monday, April 21, 2003 4:02 AM
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Subject: [pinhole-discussion] (no subject)


sorry i meant what are altoids never heard of them in
scotland/uk

callum moffat

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[pinhole-discussion] panopin URL

2003-04-21 Thread Richard Koolish
A Google search on 'panopin' turns up:

http://www.ibvr.com/NewFiles/Pinhole.html





negative scanner (was RE: [pinhole-discussion] The panopin)

2003-04-21 Thread Rauch, Shelley
Don,

I would like to find out some more information about scanning negatives.  Do 
you need a specialized scanner to do this, or merely something 'high-end'?

Thanks, 
Shelley




-Original Message-
From: D. Hill [mailto:zopp...@yahoo.com]
Sent: Sunday, April 20, 2003 11:31 PM
To: pinhole-discussion@p at ???
Subject: Re: [pinhole-discussion] The panopin


The images created with my digital darkroom
are quite inspiring, an besides,  with polaroid who
really needs a darkroom?

Don 




[pinhole-discussion] (no subject)

2003-04-21 Thread callum moffat
sorry i meant what are altoids never heard of them in
scotland/uk

callum moffat

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