RE: [pinhole-discussion] Zone plates pinhole sieves
Chris, Really outstanding images! I think the zone plate technique looks great in BW. It really adds a luminous, dreamy effect. Great! Are you using 4x5, medium format, or something else? Regards, R.J. -Original Message- From: ch...@ellingerphoto.com [mailto:ch...@ellingerphoto.com] Sent: Friday, April 25, 2003 10:24 AM To: pinhole-discussion@p at ??? Subject: Re: [pinhole-discussion] Zone plates pinhole sieves On 24 Apr 2003 at 10:51, Rauch, Shelley wrote: I'm probably getting too far ahead of myself, but I've come across some references to these items. Anyone have any experience with either of these tools? Pros/cons/general .02 cents? I have been using a zone plate for about a year, and am extremely intrigued by the quality of image it produces. To me it, reveals the energy beneath the surface of things. My zone plate photos: http://www.ellingerphoto.com/ Chris Ellinger Ann Arbor, MI USA ___ Post to the list as PLAIN TEXT only - no HTML Pinhole-Discussion mailing list Pinhole-Discussion@p at ??? unsubscribe or change your account at http://www.???/discussion/
RE: [pinhole-discussion] more Sieve images
Guillermo Congratulations on using your knowledge, skill, and artistic drive to develop a new technique. I really love the pinhole sieve images! They seem to display the best qualities of pinhole and zone plate combined. Looking forward to seeing more. R.J.
Re: [pinhole-discussion] black dust
If the original negative is 20x24 inches, it would cost a lot to get a high quality scan of something that size. You would definitely have to reduce the size to work on it in Photoshop unless you have an industrial grade imaging workstation that could easily manipulate a graphic file way over 100 MB in size. I don't think you can even get a drum scan of a negative that large. In the end, it may be cheaper and simpler to keep reprinting it in the darkroom until you get a satisfactory print. Or find a good local darkroom technician who could produce a nice print without the black dust. R.J. -Original Message- From: Andy Schmitt aschm...@warwick.net To: pinhole-discussion@p at ??? pinhole-discussion@p at ??? Sent: Wed Dec 18 07:54:52 2002 Subject: RE: [pinhole-discussion] black dust Is the original negative 20x24? If not, why not have the negative scanned in by a lab? or make a smaller print, say 8x10, scan that at 1200 or 2400 dpi, then work on it in PS. regards andy -Original Message- From: pinhole-discussion-admin@p at ??? [mailto:pinhole-discussion-admin@p at ???]On Behalf Of CRABBE Heidi S Sent: Wednesday, December 18, 2002 7:32 AM To: pinhole-discussion@p at ??? Subject: RE: [pinhole-discussion] black dust Could scan it in sections and stick it together in photoshop? Bit more work but does the job! Heidi -Original Message- From: Eric Hinders [mailto:hinderse...@yahoo.com] Sent: 17 December 2002 15:48 To: pinhole-discussion@p at ??? Subject: Re: [pinhole-discussion] black dust Yes, its hard to tell with out looking at the print, but from my experience the most easy (not always the cheapest) way to spot a picture would be to scan it and retouch it in photoshop. the only problem is finding a scanner big enough for your print. But most larger printing studios have them. Catherine Just blue_medic...@yahoo.com wrote: Hi, I made a 20x24 black and white photograph of a pinhole image for myself and one for my boyfriend as a gift. I had the print made at a lab and there is a line of black dust that is really noticable as it is really close to the middle of the print. I know this is due to my pinhole camera not being clean when I took the shot. But is there a way to do something like spot toning only to whiten it up?? I don't really know if I will give him the print if I can't lighten that up, or cover it up completely. Thanks for your help, Catherine = Catherine Just Photography Weddings~Portraits~Fine Art http://www.catherinejust.com 619.294.3195 Don't just state your intent, Live it. ~Jerry Seiner Jr. __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Afford! able. Sign up now. http://mailplus.yahoo.com ___ Post to the list as PLAIN TEXT only - no HTML Pinhole-Discussion mailing list Pinhole-Discussion@p at ??? unsubscribe or change your account at http://www.???/discussion/ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now ___ Post to the list as PLAIN TEXT only - no HTML Pinhole-Discussion mailing list Pinhole-Discussion@p at ??? unsubscribe or change your account at http://www.???/discussion/ ___ Post to the list as PLAIN TEXT only - no HTML Pinhole-Discussion mailing list Pinhole-Discussion@p at ??? unsubscribe or change your account at http://www.???/discussion/
Re: [pinhole-discussion] digital pinhole?
Wow, I didn't know aboiut any of this specialized digital equipment -- thanks for the information! I'm still not going out to buy a new digital camera, but I will consider some older models that are now getting dirt cheap, especially used. R.J. -Original Message- From: luish m. coelho lu...@ignore.com.br To: pinhole-discussion@p at ??? pinhole-discussion@p at ??? Sent: Tue Dec 10 18:38:12 2002 Subject: Re: [pinhole-discussion] digital pinhole? hi, CCDs have a property of reading heat as much as reading light, since heat has also its waveform. long exposures makes the CCD surface get moisty, I believe that this is why we get those dots, they are from the heat interference. so, you need a CCD made for long exposures which is called cooled CCDs. they may be found in cameras used for astronomy (pinholes whatching the stars). http://www.sbig.com/ I suggest you take a look at this animation of a comet made with a CCD: http://user.icx.net/~mfleenor/ccd/07032000_0800ani.html []s luish http://www.ignore.com.br ___ Post to the list as PLAIN TEXT only - no HTML Pinhole-Discussion mailing list Pinhole-Discussion@p at ??? unsubscribe or change your account at http://www.???/discussion/
RE: [pinhole-discussion] wondering
I think most of us who do pinhole and traditional wet photography get the satisfaction and enjoyment from an all manual, hands-on process. That process is imprecise, and depending on film and exposure and processing and printing, that imprecision yields beauty through grain, tonality, bokeh, diffraction, silver, etc. I have nothing against digital, and believe that simple flatbed, affordable scanners like the Epson 2450 have opened the doors for everyone to share their images online, which is absolutely great and has enriched my life. What people are missing who go straight to digital is the beauty of wet prints. Will digital prints ever approach the quality achieved by an 8x10 contact print? I don't think it's a matter of technical limitations -- surely digital will continue to increase the scope and quality of the ccds. I think that the wet chemical process is just physically and fundamentally different from digital, enough so that neither can really reproduce in a pure technical sense the results of the other with accuracy. There's room enough for all. R.J.
[pinhole-discussion] digital pinhole?
Good discussion on this topic. Has anyone tried to convert a digital camera to pinhole? I'm guessing that the results would be poor since digital ccds do not handle long exposures well at all, resulting in a lot of digital noise and artifacts. But who knows, it might look interesting.. I would enjoy tearing open a few of those consumer digital cameras though and installing a pinhole! Surely someone out there has already done this?? R.J.
[pinhole-discussion] OT: Anyone looking for nice 5x7 Leonardo
Here's a nice package I saw on ebay (I have NO relationship to this camera or seller -- I just happened to see this browsing): This 5X7 pinhole camera in mint condition. It was only used once for an assignment. Included is 14 - 5X7 film holders in various condition, but all are light tight. Also included is a opened box of 5X7 Tri-X film with approx. 70 sheets of film in it and an unopened box (25 sts.)of 5X7 color duping film. The film has been stored in a freezer. All of the holders and film are not shown in the photo. http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=1943330325 R.J.
Re: [pinhole-discussion] Experiments with pinhole diameter
I would assume that, like traditional photography with a lens, as exposure time increases sharpness decreases, all factors being equal. So using a smaller hole than the optimal may lead to decreased sharpness, but on the other hand, the decrease in sharpness may not be visible anyway. Great discussion! R.J. R.J.
RE: [pinhole-discussion] Question on image circle and medium form at pinhole camera design
Thanks Phil! It's clearly the first scenario -- the corners are perfectly clean and black. I suppose I will need to modify the camera some more to get rid of that slight edge that sticks up. Much appreciated, R.J. -Original Message- From: Philip willarney [mailto:pwillar...@yahoo.com] Sent: Tuesday, November 12, 2002 3:00 PM To: pinhole-discussion@p at ??? Subject: Re: [pinhole-discussion] Question on image circle and medium format pinhole camera design --- Fox, Robert r...@aarp.org wrote: ..snip.. Question: my images are all circular, cutting off the corners cleanly of the square print. Is this because the image circle is too small for the film? I'm wondering if the circular edge of the front plate is being picked up on film, since the edge sticks up about 1/4 inch. If the edges of the photos are sharp, hard edges, it's probably vignetting -- something in the light path from the outside world to the film is blocking the light. So you're getting a nice clean photo of the edges of the lens holder, for instance. If the edge is a slow fade from picture to dim picture to black, then it's falloff. Pinholes as such don't have an image coverage circle -- the edges just get dimmer and dimmer as they get farther from the pinhole and get less less light. I think. Any quibbles, anyone? -- pwillar...@yahoo.com __ Do you Yahoo!? U2 on LAUNCH - Exclusive greatest hits videos http://launch.yahoo.com/u2 ___ Post to the list as PLAIN TEXT only - no HTML Pinhole-Discussion mailing list Pinhole-Discussion@p at ??? unsubscribe or change your account at http://www.???/discussion/
[pinhole-discussion] Question about Pinhole Factory
Is anyone familiar with the Pinhole Factory is England? See http://www.pinholesolutions.co.uk/pinhole_factory.html The Silver Gem and Silver Jewel pinhole cameras look like copies of the Zero 2000 and Zero 2000 multi-format camera. Are they in fact one in the same? Thanks, R.J.
RE: [pinhole-discussion] authentic space
This whole discussion of authentic space is very interesting to me, both from a philosophical perspective and practical perspective. I think the learning for me is that photos are almost always better when there is a driving vision behind the images, and better yet, a cohesive theme. Having seen numerous photo exhibitions here in Washington, DC at all the major and not so major galleries, it never struck me how important theme is to achieving impact and meaning for a full exhibit. Thanks for raising such an important aspect of photography! R.J. -Original Message- From: Steve Bell [mailto:veracity...@earthlink.net] Sent: Thursday, October 31, 2002 8:49 AM To: pinhole-discussion@p at ??? Subject: Re: [pinhole-discussion] authentic space i think i kind of began this project with that idea, but as i've progressed, i've decided to really just shoot whatever feels to me authentic space. i used these definitions as a kind of starting point and have let things develop from there. so i'm hoping that when i'm finished it will be less a documentary on authentic space, and more a personal, subjective study on myself and how i see the world. hope that makes sense. steve
RE: [pinhole-discussion] re:pinhole nude
Dai, Those are very impressive and beautiful images. Thanks for the inspiration! What type of paper are they printed on? I know if they look that good as tiny compressed jpegs, the real prints must be stunning. Do you have any link to show what your homemade camera looks like? Regards, R.J. -Original Message- From: dain...@aol.com [mailto:dain...@aol.com] Sent: Tuesday, October 29, 2002 12:15 PM To: pinhole-discussion@p at ??? Subject: Re: [pinhole-discussion] re:pinhole nude Hi Folks, I did a series several years ago using a portable Vivitar flash and a pinhole camera shooting nudes. A sample can be viewed here: http://www.justdai.com/topo/index.html The final images are 11X14 from 6X7 120 negative. Shooting pinhole with flash is astonishingly easy and rather liberating since exposure time and the use of a tripod goes out the window... Exposure is determined by flash to subject distance like in lensed photography, and since the effective shutter speed is now the duration of the flash, there is no need to support the camera on a stable base. Cheers, Dai.
Re: [pinhole-discussion] Free Walzburg Horizontal camera
Wow, now that's a camera!! I had no idea of the immensity of this beast. I hope it finds a good home. If you have trouble finding anyone to take it, you may want to try contacting the Smithsonian, who could ensure its proper storage and care. R.J. R.J. Fox Member Reference Team (202) 434-3429; r...@aarp.org
Re: [pinhole-discussion] Newbie Intro. and a few questions
William, Thanks for the feedback -- can you tell me why the 6x9 multi format Zero was so hard to load? I've heard there can be some difficulty in getting the lid on over the film rolls. The results I've seen from this camera have been very nice, although 5x4 beckons! R.J. R.J. Fox Member Reference Team Member Communications Mgmt. (202) 434-3429; r...@aarp.org
RE: [pinhole-discussion] Newbie Intro. and a few questions
George, Thanks your the links and information -- your images are outstanding. Your comments about the extra costs of doing 8x10 are definitely a big issue. I don't think I'll jump into alternative processes to get started, so roll film should be fine for now. I'm looking forward to a new way of seeing the world! R.J. -Original Message- From: George L Smyth [mailto:glsm...@yahoo.com] Sent: Monday, August 12, 2002 9:43 AM To: pinhole-discussion@p at ??? Subject: Re: [pinhole-discussion] Newbie Intro. and a few questions --- Fox, Robert r...@aarp.org wrote: [clip] Are there any practical reasons to shoot at 4x5 rather than 8x10? I suppose it would be easy enough to do both, but I'm wondering about people's preferences for architectural and portrait work. The multi-format Zero2000 looks like a good starter as well given the choice of formats for standard roll film. 8X10 film is four times more expensive than 4X5 film (makes sense). The bulk of an 8X10 camera, along with the slide holders, make things much more difficult to work with. Then again, if you are going to use an alternative process to print, then you will probably want a larger negative to work with. I've got some examples at http://mywebpages.comcast.net/hmpi/Projects/BearSkins/BearSkins.htm if you would like to take a look. An alternative to regular 8X10 film is to use halftone film of that size, which costs considerably less. The image Jimmy (found at http://mywebpages.comcast.net/hmpi/Pinhole/Images/PinholeImages.htm) was made with this film. I would also direct you to the Pinhole FAQ located at http://mywebpages.comcast.net/hmpi/Pinhole/Articles/FAQ/pin_faq.htm. There you will find enough information to get you going in the right direction. Cheers - george = Handmade Photographic Images - http://GLSmyth.com DRiP Investing - http://DRiPInvesting.org
