Re: [pinhole-discussion] Ag stuff
andy, that's rediculous, all you have to do is test it to find out for yourself: scrape a small piece of copper down to bright metal with sandpaper and immerse the copper in used fixer... silver will begin to plate in less than a minute... now try it with developer! can you locate these articles for us? jim - Original Message - From: "Andy Schmitt" To: "pinhole discussion list" Sent: Sunday, February 03, 2002 4:43 PM Subject: [pinhole-discussion] Ag stuff > Funny that no one thinks about the developer as being silver bearing > Some articles have rated it as being higher than Fixer > > regards > Andy Schmitt > > AAndy LLC > Computer Systems Created > Perplexed Users UnPerplexed > Dragons Slain,Ideas Generated > Photographs Taken > http://www.aandy.org > Photography Head, Peters Valley Craft Center > > > ___ > Post to the list as PLAIN TEXT only - no HTML > Pinhole-Discussion mailing list > Pinhole-Discussion@p at ??? > unsubscribe or change your account at > http://www.???/discussion/ >
Re: [pinhole-discussion] photon sieve
the difficulty involved in making a photon sieve is about the same as making a polarizing filter jim - Original Message - From: "Mike Vande Bunt" To: Sent: Wednesday, February 06, 2002 12:59 AM Subject: Re: [pinhole-discussion] photon sieve > I notice that the caption describes a photon seive as containing > "tens of thousands of pinholes." This does not sound like a very > easy device to produce. > > Mike Vande Bunt > > > Richard M. Koolish wrote: > > >There may be a new kind of zone plate called the 'photon sieve'. Instead of > >using clear and opaque concentric rings, it uses pinholes of decreasing diameter > >arranged in rings related to the zone plate. > > > >See: http://www-hasylab.desy.de/newsletter/2001-12-01.htm > > > >It was announced in the Nov 8, 2001 issue of the science journal Nature. > > > > > > > ___ > Post to the list as PLAIN TEXT only - no HTML > Pinhole-Discussion mailing list > Pinhole-Discussion@p at ??? > unsubscribe or change your account at > http://www.???/discussion/ >
Re: [pinhole-discussion] Disposing of chemicals
I have a good background in this topic... managed a silver recovery collective, wrote a newsletter called 'Photography & the Environment', did some original research into breaking down photo chemicals with bacterial formulations, consulted for lots of schools & labs, etc. The hard part is that it takes a long time to tell the story and I do not believe it is necessary to become an alarmist. So, here are a few tips that are easy to implement... 1. If you have a municipal waste system there is usually nothing to be worried about regarding disposal because the silver in the fixer is removed at the waste treatment plant. However, the silver level is sometimes regulated. Call and ask for the regulation but do not tell them you have a darkroom, because there are many ignorant enforcers out there who can't wait to shut you down. We can then design a method of meeting the regulation, which will make them very happy instead. 2. The silver in photo chemicals is relatively very stable and poses no problem when disposed of in SMALL AMOUNTS, but it's regulated using the same laws that govern electroplating & other large industrial operations dumping unstable forms of ionic silver. This is because the lawmakers cannot find a way to make an exception for small users. 3. Home septic systems can be used with some precaution in order to keep their bacteria alive. Here's a simple method to help save the life of your septic tank: a) pre-oxidize solutions before you flush them down the drain by letting them stand in trays in the open air (if the solution is 1 up to inch deep, 12 hours is sufficient)... this way the solutions break down to simpler forms before you dispose b) add small amounts to the system slowly along with lots of water c) do not mix developer & fixer directly because ammonia gas will form d) if you want to remove silver from the fixer place one pad of steel wool in a gallon of fixer and leave it in there for 24 - 48 hours for complete silver removal (0 - 2 ppm level)... the solution can then be discarded and the collected silver can be dried and saved or put in the solid waste for disposal 4) the same principles work for color chemistry but those molecules are bigger, stronger and take a longer time to break down jim k - Original Message - From: "Colin Talcroft" To: Sent: Sunday, February 03, 2002 1:23 PM Subject: Re: [pinhole-discussion] Disposing of chemicals > Someone was wondering about disposal of chemicals, a > subject that has often bothered me. I did a little > research by calling photo suppliers and local poison > control people. There was surprisingly little > information, but the consensus seems to be that most > developers and stop baths are fairly benign and can be > disposed of down the drain if well diluted (leave the > water running). > > Spent fixer contains silver and therefore should not > be disposed of this way. I keep a big plastic jug and > store the stuff until the next toxics drive. Here in > the US these drives are fairly common. When I lived in > Japan there was no way to do this, so I had to just > dump it, which always made me feel terribly guilty. > Photoflo and other wetting agents are esentially mild > detergents. These are OK. Selenium and many other > toners are highly toxic and should not be dumped. > > There was some talk about alternative stop baths > recently on the list. I guess things like citric acid > and ascorbic acid would be even safer, as they are > edibles. > > I am talking about B&W chemicals. Color processing > chemicals are entirely different, of course. > > If anyone knows more about this, please let us know. I > don't want to pass on misinformation, so speak up > especially if I am wrong about any of this. > > Colin > > > > > __ > Do You Yahoo!? > Great stuff seeking new owners in Yahoo! Auctions! > http://auctions.yahoo.com > > ___ > Post to the list as PLAIN TEXT only - no HTML > Pinhole-Discussion mailing list > Pinhole-Discussion@p at ??? > unsubscribe or change your account at > http://www.???/discussion/ >
Re: [pinhole-discussion] small toilet darkroom
actually, this started as a note on the work of a photo student who lived in a small apartment, but it's interesting to see that there are more practitioners(?) out there! jim k - Original Message - From: To: Sent: Sunday, February 03, 2002 12:36 PM Subject: Re: [pinhole-discussion] small toilet darkroom > Rob, I think you're referring to Steven Pippin's work..he used a railroad > station restroom as a pinhole camera obscura and used the toilet bowl as a > developing tank. The Museum of Modern Art has copies of his book that > accompanied his exhibit (he also used a washing machine pinhole camera > obscura/lab)...Renee > > ___ > Post to the list as PLAIN TEXT only - no HTML > Pinhole-Discussion mailing list > Pinhole-Discussion@p at ??? > unsubscribe or change your account at > http://www.???/discussion/ >
Re: [pinhole-discussion] Nearly Off Topic
why don't you put a pinhole camera in the bee hive and photograph the bees coming & going? - Original Message - From: "Colin Talcroft" To: Sent: Sunday, February 03, 2002 12:58 PM Subject: Re: [pinhole-discussion] Nearly Off Topic > This list is really great fun--everything from > discussions of the physics of image formation and > meaning of the passage of time to the intricacies of > using ABS pipe to develop film to home brewing. I am > currently doing the research to plant about forty > vines in my back yard to start making wine (leaning > toward Zinfandel and Petite Syrah). I don't see any > connection with pinhole photography, but I am also > preparing my first beehive, which I hope to stock with > bees in April. Now there is a parallel--closed box > with a small hole at the front and an infinity > insideand somewhat unpredictable. > > Colin > > __ > Do You Yahoo!? > Great stuff seeking new owners in Yahoo! Auctions! > http://auctions.yahoo.com > > ___ > Post to the list as PLAIN TEXT only - no HTML > Pinhole-Discussion mailing list > Pinhole-Discussion@p at ??? > unsubscribe or change your account at > http://www.???/discussion/ >
[pinhole-discussion] anti-halation backing
John Yeo relates that when developing sheet film "the anti-halation backing doesn't clear very well in tubes" I had to deal with this problem and came up with the simple idea of taping a plastic coffee stir stick on the wall of the tube so the solutions could get behind the film... it works ok! This is not a problem when developing paper. jim k
[pinhole-discussion] small toilet darkroom
Dennis Johanson writes "I am the guy presently converting a (too small) guest toilet into a darkroom" well, this reminds me of a student who lived in a very small apartment in Chinatown with a tiny bathroom... she solved this problem by developing b&w prints right in the toilet and flushing the solution after every step jim k
Re: [pinhole-discussion] Pinhole covert operations
hey, we're just paintin' with light - Original Message - From: "Murray" To: Sent: Tuesday, January 29, 2002 4:40 PM Subject: [pinhole-discussion] Pinhole covert operations > Hey, this group is gettin' serious - > > pinhole covert ops and industrial espionage > > I'd suggest converting a Minox camera to pinhole but for the microfiche > reader needed to look at the pictures! > > Murray. > > > ___ > Post to the list as PLAIN TEXT only - no HTML > Pinhole-Discussion mailing list > Pinhole-Discussion@p at ??? > unsubscribe or change your account at > http://www.???/discussion/ >
Re: [pinhole-discussion] public shooting
leezy, i wish there were more pests like you! www.paintcancamera.com jim - Original Message - From: To: Sent: Tuesday, January 29, 2002 2:47 PM Subject: Re: [pinhole-discussion] public shooting > > In a message dated 1/29/02 2:34:56 PM, zin...@telenet.net writes: > > << leezy, > > the Little Merlin camera takes up to 4 1/4" x 10" films or papers. A 4x5 > > sheet fits quite nicely... an 8x10 sheet cut in half gives a nice big > > panoramic image. The camera has a lot of room inside to put the emulsion at > > different distances from the pinhole, or at unusual angles & curves for > > 'special effects'... you can load it easily in a changing bag if you're out > > in the field. > > jim > > >> > > Thank you. > Quite a little dandy pinhole camera. > Congratulations. > I feel like such a pest. What is the URL for that site? > Thanks. > leezy > > ___ > Post to the list as PLAIN TEXT only - no HTML > Pinhole-Discussion mailing list > Pinhole-Discussion@p at ??? > unsubscribe or change your account at > http://www.???/discussion/ >
Re: [pinhole-discussion] public shooting
leezy, the Little Merlin camera takes up to 4 1/4" x 10" films or papers. A 4x5 sheet fits quite nicely... an 8x10 sheet cut in half gives a nice big panoramic image. The camera has a lot of room inside to put the emulsion at different distances from the pinhole, or at unusual angles & curves for 'special effects'... you can load it easily in a changing bag if you're out in the field. jim - Original Message - From: To: Sent: Tuesday, January 29, 2002 9:23 AM Subject: Re: [pinhole-discussion] public shooting > What size film/paper does the Merlin take? > leezy > > ___ > Post to the list as PLAIN TEXT only - no HTML > Pinhole-Discussion mailing list > Pinhole-Discussion@p at ??? > unsubscribe or change your account at > http://www.???/discussion/ >
Re: [pinhole-discussion] public shooting
thanks 2 leezy & everyone else for the encouragement! jim - Original Message - From: To: Sent: Tuesday, January 29, 2002 7:20 AM Subject: Re: [pinhole-discussion] public shooting > I love the way the little Merlin Paintcan camera looks. > Good Luck! > leezy > > ___ > Post to the list as PLAIN TEXT only - no HTML > Pinhole-Discussion mailing list > Pinhole-Discussion@p at ??? > unsubscribe or change your account at > http://www.???/discussion/ >
Re: [pinhole-discussion] public shooting
Hey, why not! - Original Message - From: "Tim Midkiff" To: Sent: Monday, January 28, 2002 10:29 PM Subject: Re: [pinhole-discussion] public shooting > > Jim, > > Is that going to be a "stock" label now for whom ever may want one? > > tim > > > leezy & jack, here's the upload address of the picture that shows > what the > > Little Merlin looks like with the Custom Paints label, lots of fun... > jim > > > > > > http://www.???/discussion/upload/gallery2002.php? > pic=custompa > > ints_jimk.jpg > > > > > > - Original Message - > > From: > > To: > > Sent: Monday, January 28, 2002 2:55 PM > > Subject: Re: [pinhole-discussion] public shooting > > > > > > > > > > In a message dated 1/28/02 8:45:21 AM, zin...@telenet.net writes: > > > > > > << am sending you a Little Merlin pinhole camera today with a new > label > > that > > > > > > says Merlin Custom Paints... made it up just for you! it looks > pretty > > cool, > > > > > > so i have to thank you for the idea... maybe others will like it, > too... > > > > > > reminds me of the pinhole cameras used during ww2 that were made > out of > > > > > > match boxes by kodak >> > > > > > > Jim, > > > Can you post an image of it? > > > I'd like to see it. > > > Thank you. > > > leezy > > > > > > ___ > > > Post to the list as PLAIN TEXT only - no HTML > > > Pinhole-Discussion mailing list > > > Pinhole-Discussion@p at ??? > > > unsubscribe or change your account at > > > http://www.???/discussion/ > > > > > > > > > ___ > > Post to the list as PLAIN TEXT only - no HTML > > Pinhole-Discussion mailing list > > Pinhole-Discussion@p at ??? > > unsubscribe or change your account at > > http://www.???/discussion/ > > > > > > > > Timothy S. Midkiff > > "Photographers get a Click out of life!" > > ku...@vci.net > psycho_...@excite.com > > > ___ > Post to the list as PLAIN TEXT only - no HTML > Pinhole-Discussion mailing list > Pinhole-Discussion@p at ??? > unsubscribe or change your account at > http://www.???/discussion/ >
Re: [pinhole-discussion] public shooting
in the last message the url was truncated somehow, so here's another try: to see Little Merlin with the Custom Paints label http://www.???/discussion/upload/gallery2002.php?pic=custompa ints_jimk.jpg - Original Message - From: To: Sent: Monday, January 28, 2002 2:55 PM Subject: Re: [pinhole-discussion] public shooting > > In a message dated 1/28/02 8:45:21 AM, zin...@telenet.net writes: > > << am sending you a Little Merlin pinhole camera today with a new label that > > says Merlin Custom Paints... made it up just for you! it looks pretty cool, > > so i have to thank you for the idea... maybe others will like it, too... > > reminds me of the pinhole cameras used during ww2 that were made out of > > match boxes by kodak >> > > Jim, > Can you post an image of it? > I'd like to see it. > Thank you. > leezy > > ___ > Post to the list as PLAIN TEXT only - no HTML > Pinhole-Discussion mailing list > Pinhole-Discussion@p at ??? > unsubscribe or change your account at > http://www.???/discussion/ >
Re: [pinhole-discussion] public shooting
leezy & jack, here's the upload address of the picture that shows what the Little Merlin looks like with the Custom Paints label, lots of fun... jim http://www.???/discussion/upload/gallery2002.php?pic=custompa ints_jimk.jpg - Original Message - From: To: Sent: Monday, January 28, 2002 2:55 PM Subject: Re: [pinhole-discussion] public shooting > > In a message dated 1/28/02 8:45:21 AM, zin...@telenet.net writes: > > << am sending you a Little Merlin pinhole camera today with a new label that > > says Merlin Custom Paints... made it up just for you! it looks pretty cool, > > so i have to thank you for the idea... maybe others will like it, too... > > reminds me of the pinhole cameras used during ww2 that were made out of > > match boxes by kodak >> > > Jim, > Can you post an image of it? > I'd like to see it. > Thank you. > leezy > > ___ > Post to the list as PLAIN TEXT only - no HTML > Pinhole-Discussion mailing list > Pinhole-Discussion@p at ??? > unsubscribe or change your account at > http://www.???/discussion/ >
Re: [pinhole-discussion] public shooting
hi lisa, am sending you a Little Merlin pinhole camera today with a new label that says Merlin Custom Paints... made it up just for you! it looks pretty cool, so i have to thank you for the idea... maybe others will like it, too... reminds me of the pinhole cameras used during ww2 that were made out of match boxes by kodak jim k - Original Message - From: "Lisa Reddig" To: Sent: Friday, January 25, 2002 2:40 PM Subject: [pinhole-discussion] public shooting > > - Original Message - > From: ragowaring > > > If you have a fear of being caught in the act however small the > probability, > > then announce to everyone what you are doing by making you camera a parody > > of a camera. > > Have I mentioned my fear of attention from people. It makes me extremely > sweaty and nervous. And especially when they want to ask me questions about > what I am doing. It all just makes me uncomfortable. Some would call it > shy. > > At this point I wouldn't even know what to shoot outside of my apartment. I > have geared my ideas and images so much to where I live, that is what all my > ideas are of now. And those ideas just keep coming. > > Lisa > > > ___ > Post to the list as PLAIN TEXT only - no HTML > Pinhole-Discussion mailing list > Pinhole-Discussion@p at ??? > unsubscribe or change your account at > http://www.???/discussion/ >
Re: [pinhole-discussion] RE: plastic surgery on PH cameras
you really have a way with words, too! jim - Original Message - From: "Tom Hawkins" To: Sent: Sunday, January 27, 2002 6:52 PM Subject: [pinhole-discussion] RE: plastic surgery on PH cameras > I like the idea that through crafting a camera, communing with its > constituent parts and understanding them through the images created by light > interacting with them we are able to gain a better understanding of > ourselves and our place in the world. > > Something to mull over during your next two hour long exposure as the water > finally makes it though your shoes on a rainy winter Sunday like today in > London ;-) > > Tom > > > ---Edited Thread follows--- > > > >I have a feeling pinhole cameras have this life of there own >once created > and they don't want to be changed. > > > >It's like doing plastic surgery, looks realistic to a certain >extent, but > on that person it just looks fake. > > > >Lisa > > > >I'd see it more like the actual pinhole has its own > >personality > > > >Tom > > > >Are we dealing with two separate entities brought together by >the hand of > the maker or should we exercise some sort of > >mediation perhaps even control over the union. > > > >Alexis > > > >All I'm suggesting is that everyone probably "jumped" into > >the various photographic persuits to ultimatly express their >inner > emotions, and as we develop our skills isn't that a > >deeper understanding of ourselves and our environment? > > > >Tim > > > > > ___ > Post to the list as PLAIN TEXT only - no HTML > Pinhole-Discussion mailing list > Pinhole-Discussion@p at ??? > unsubscribe or change your account at > http://www.???/discussion/ >
Re: [pinhole-discussion] Silver Gem
Sorry to have missed something, but where can information about this camera/company be found online and otherwise. It doesn't come up on my search engine and I want to give Z a hand. jim k - Original Message - From: "Gary" To: Sent: Wednesday, January 16, 2002 6:00 PM Subject: [pinhole-discussion] Silver Gem > Has anyone seen the recent press coverage in the UK for the Pinhole > Factory's Silver Gem camera? > > Is it just my imagination or does it bear a striking resemblance to the > Zero 2000? > > > ___ > Pinhole-Discussion mailing list > Pinhole-Discussion@p at ??? > unsubscribe or change your account at > http://www.???/discussion/ >
Re: [pinhole-discussion] public shooting
Lisa, I'm sorry to hear that you are so uncomfortable out there. I will send you a paintcan camera to work with in public, if you like. People will not be able to tell that it's a camera at all. You can put it down with a paintbrush on top and walk away from it for a long time... nobody will bother with it. Just send me your address using mer...@paintcancamera.com Jim Kosinski www.paintcancamera.com - Original Message - From: "Lisa Reddig" To: Sent: Friday, January 25, 2002 2:40 PM Subject: [pinhole-discussion] public shooting > > - Original Message - > From: ragowaring > > > If you have a fear of being caught in the act however small the > probability, > > then announce to everyone what you are doing by making you camera a parody > > of a camera. > > Have I mentioned my fear of attention from people. It makes me extremely > sweaty and nervous. And especially when they want to ask me questions about > what I am doing. It all just makes me uncomfortable. Some would call it > shy. > > At this point I wouldn't even know what to shoot outside of my apartment. I > have geared my ideas and images so much to where I live, that is what all my > ideas are of now. And those ideas just keep coming. > > Lisa > > > ___ > Post to the list as PLAIN TEXT only - no HTML > Pinhole-Discussion mailing list > Pinhole-Discussion@p at ??? > unsubscribe or change your account at > http://www.???/discussion/ >
Re: [pinhole-discussion] (no subject)
all this left right up down is a little dyslexic, especially if you can't see, so here is a tactile way to identify the emulsion side... the emulsion side will absorb moisture so just hold your finger on it for several seconds and it will feel sticky... this goes for paper, too at hartwick college, where i teach, the students raise guide dogs and they are often seen in great photos... i am wondering if & how your dog helps you out in the practice of photography? for example, do you think a dog can be of any assistance in letting you know when there is something interesting to shoot or when the right time is to make an exposure? haw about training the dog to use a point & shoot camera? jim k - Original Message - From: "pete eckert" To: Sent: Tuesday, January 22, 2002 8:10 PM Subject: [pinhole-discussion] (no subject) > I made a 8 x 10 camera to take glass plates. It was intended to have liquid > light painted on the plates so I could play with drawing with the emulsion. > It's the rainy season here in Northern California. so the camera is much to > slow four what I intended to do with it. I only found this out after > reading some of the recent posts concerning paper exposure speeds. Thanks, > saved me some bucks. > > To make a long story a bit shorter, I now want to put sheet film in it. The > stuff is expensive. I tried taking a few test shots to get the exposure > down. My problem is, (besides being totally blind), I can't tell what side > the emulsion is on. Paper has more tooth on the paper side than the > emulsion side. the film feels the same on both sides. I tried both sides > and my wife said both negatives had images. I noticed some notches on the > film. Can I use them to orient the film? > > > If you are wondering I had intended to use the glass plates to take shots > of a nearby steam train as it stops at a station . I wanted to take them in > the rain, so the camera is so robust it looks like it was made in a tractor > factory. The train isn't running during the rainy season I just found out. > I don't want a little rain to slow me down so I still want to give my > camera a dunking. > > the guide dog didn't like the steam train anyway , > > Pete > > > ___ > Post to the list as PLAIN TEXT only - no HTML > Pinhole-Discussion mailing list > Pinhole-Discussion@p at ??? > unsubscribe or change your account at > http://www.???/discussion/ >
Re: [pinhole-discussion] upload
Re: [pinhole-discussion] uploadBill writes: "I uploaded the results of an accident.. This is a gift of the gods..." Hey dude, a gift of the gods is not an accident!
Re: [pinhole-discussion] Overnight photo labs in the US?
Dieter, The best thing would be to make a pinhole body cap for your SLR and have the color negs, or monochrome C-41 negs developed and printed at a 1 hour photo shop. There are lots of them around. jim - Original Message - From: "Dieter Bublitz" To: Sent: Friday, January 18, 2002 1:53 PM Subject: [pinhole-discussion] Overnight photo labs in the US? > Hi folks, > this may be somewhat off topic but I hope not too far :-). > I will be on a trip through Colorado, Wyoming, Montana and South > Dakota in May and June. > While I will take photos mainly with my SLR-equipment, I plan to take > one pinhole camera on this trip. Did not decide yet, wether it will be > a 4x5" or one of my medium format Zero's. > The problem is, that I would like to see the pinhole images as soon as > possible to decide if I should do them again (due to the uncertainties > of the exposure of a pinhole image) before I head on to the next > place. > How is it in the mentioned area? Does one usually find one hour or > overnight photolabs in the (bigger) cities, that can do medium format > (maybe even large format) slide film or is there no chance? Are > chances better for negative film? > > Thank you! > Dieter > > > -- > Dieters Lochkamera Seite: http://www.die-lochkamera.de/ > drf-Süd-Homepage: http://www.drf-sued.de/ > > ___ > Pinhole-Discussion mailing list > Pinhole-Discussion@p at ??? > unsubscribe or change your account at > http://www.???/discussion/ >
Re: [pinhole-discussion] (STRICTLY PERSONAL)
warning! this is a fraud, check out the CIA's website for more info if you are interested - Original Message - From: "DR CLINTON MANDELA" To: Sent: Wednesday, January 16, 2002 9:29 PM Subject: [pinhole-discussion] (STRICTLY PERSONAL) > Dr. CLINTON MANDELA > DIRECTOR, MINERALS & NATURAL > RESOURCES, SOUTH AFRICAN MINISTRY OF > MINING & MINERAL RESOURCES, (SMMR) > PRETORIA, REPUBLIC OF SOUTH AFRICA > > Sir, > > It is my pleasure to write you this letter on behalf > of my colleagues. I have decided to seek a > confidential co-operation with you in executing of a > deal hereunder for the benefit of all parties, and > hope you will keep it confidential because of the > nature of this business. > > I am the Director of Mineral and Natural Resources of > the South African Ministry of Mining and Mineral > Resources (SMMR) and I have the co-operation of two > other top officials, we have in our possession an > overdue payment in US funds. > > The funds represent some percentage of the contract > executed on behalf of my ministry by a foreign firm, > which we over-invoiced to the amount of > US$27,500,000.00 (Twenty Seven Million Five Hundred > Thousand United States Dollars.) Though the actual > contract cost has been paid to the original > contractor, leaving the excess balance unclaimed. > > Since the present Government is determined to pay > foreign contractors all debts owed, so as to maintain > good relationship with other governments. As a result > we include our bills for approvals with the > co-operation of some officials at the Federal Ministry > of Finance. > > We are seeking your assistance as the Beneficiary of > the unclaimed funds, since we are not allowed to > operate a foreign account. > > We hereby propose that, should you be willing to > assist us in this transaction your share as > compensation will be 30% while my colleagues and I > receive 60% and 10% for miscellaneous expenses. > > This business itself is 100% safe, provided you treat > it with utmost confidentiality. I have reposed my > confidence in you and hope that you will not > disappoint us. > > Kindly notify me by phone, fax and Email for further > details, upon your acceptance of this proposal. > > > Best Regards, > > > Dr. Clinton Mandela > > > > ___ > Pinhole-Discussion mailing list > Pinhole-Discussion@p at ??? > unsubscribe or change your account at > http://www.???/discussion/ >
Re: [pinhole-discussion] Alexis' debate of how and why.
From: "Bill Erickson" > I'm reminded that when I visited the Sistine Chapel the man in front of me > in line was blind, white cane and all. He seemed to be as moved as the rest > of us. you don't need eyes to comprehend the moment, just a working Heart! jim
Re: [pinhole-discussion] A NEW DEBATE
alexis writes: "> My background is that of a painter but I am also a science graduate so I suppose I fall between two camps." art & science are inseparable these days, two sides of the same coin... even if you're purely an artist you depend on science for the materials you use in science, the real missing link is creativity, especially visualization... working with pinhole cameras promotes an integrated mind initially i moved into art & design because technology was boring, and now i am trying to make pinhole photography easy for everyone by developing 'soft technology' that is inexpensive and practical... it's important to me because hi tech companies & computers have reduced the learning of darkroom techniques in younger generations, and that learning is carried over to other aspects of living in positive ways jim k www.paintcancamera.com
Re: [pinhole-discussion] wwpd exhibition
How about using the web like this: program the website so that a gallery, school, or just anyone could go online and view the images one at a time on a tv or computer screen, just like watching a slide show with the projector set on automatic... the user could select a length of time for viewing each slide and hit the start button... they could also enter a sequence of specific photographs... the images can loop so the show can be left on as long as needed jim k
Re: [pinhole-discussion] wwpd exhibition
everything's possible, but you picked a real tough time for funding! jim k - Original Message - From: "Gordon J. Holtslander" To: Sent: Wednesday, January 09, 2002 6:20 PM Subject: [pinhole-discussion] wwpd exhibition > Hi: > > I was looking at the web site of one of our local art gallerys. They have > a program called "something on sundays" where they get people to > participate in some sort of art related project. > > I thought this would be an ideal venue for some sort of pinhole day > project. I've asked them if they are interested in doing something on > this. > > I was looking through last years gallery and thought maybe if I get people > making their own pinhole shots that the gallery could exhibit them at some > point. > > It then struck me, a really cool thing would be to make a "travelling > exhibition" of real pinhole camera day shots. That is to have people > from all over the world to lend/give their pinhole day shots and create > an exhibition of these. > > I've not been involved in the "art world" for years, I wonder if something > like this is possible? > > Gord > > - > Gordon J. Holtslander Dept. of Biology > hol...@duke.usask.ca 112 Science Place > http://duke.usask.ca/~holtsg University of Saskatchewan > Tel (306) 966-4433 Saskatoon, Saskatchewan > Fax (306) 966-4461 Canada S7N 5E2 > - > > > ___ > Pinhole-Discussion mailing list > Pinhole-Discussion@p at ??? > unsubscribe or change your account at > http://www.???/discussion/ >
Re: [pinhole-discussion] WWPD in Boston
check with Christopher James at Lesley College... he will know just the right person for you - Original Message - From: "ragowaring" To: Sent: Monday, January 07, 2002 3:33 PM Subject: Re: [pinhole-discussion] WWPD in Boston > on 7/1/02 5:04 pm, R Duarte at ra...@rahji.com wrote: > > > hey, i'd like to get something going in boston for wwpd 2002. i think i > > might possibly have enough pinhole/darkroom experience to conduct a one-day > > or two-day thing at one of the adult ed centers here, but generally i think > > i know just enough to be dangerous. i've proposed classes and teach at the > > cambridge and brookline adult ed centers so i would know who to contact > > about getting something going for the spring term (if it's not too late - > > i'm not sure). anyway, i like to be a real expert on a topic before i play > > an instructor role - like i said, i could probably do okay, but i think it > > would be better if someone else wanted to get involved too - either as > > co-facilitators or with me as their assistant or something. i'd like to do > > something targeted toward kids but maybe the whole process of making prints > > in the darkroom is just too much (read: boring) for little kids.. maybe > > teens or something. if anyone's interested or has any other ideas, let me > > know. > > thanks.. > > rob > > > > > > ___ > > Pinhole-Discussion mailing list > > Pinhole-Discussion@p at ??? > > unsubscribe or change your account at > > http://www.???/discussion/ > Rob > > My experience is that it is not boring at all for any age group. I have > given a number of workshops and courses and am at the moment in a residency > with 17 and 18 year old. I have just finished preparing and curating an > exhibition at the Usher Gallery in Lincoln (museum). I was in charge of 30 > students for several weeks. > My experience is that at first it is difficult to gauge enthusiasm simply > because you are probably overbriming with excitment. But that is just it, > this is contagious and soon you find that most are converts. > Remember to not get too technical and that attention span is short. > Everything seems to be going along just find and then, when the first > photographs magically appear, then even the most hard bitten cynic becomes > enthralled. > The secret is to not overplan but to keep it simple. And remember that you > are learning with them. It is rewarding and well worth doing. > > One of the outcomes of the residency is my building a giant walk-un pinhole > camera on wheels that can be moved about? > > I shall soon be posting an exhibition of the students' work and the giant > pinhole in a website I am constructing. > > Go for it Rob, it will also inform your own work. > > Alexis > > > > > > > ___ > Pinhole-Discussion mailing list > Pinhole-Discussion@p at ??? > unsubscribe or change your account at > http://www.???/discussion/ >
Re: [pinhole-discussion] developing in camera
In a message dated 1/6/02 2:10:50 PM, ra...@rahji.com writes: i have kids in mind when i envision this. what do you think? It's an interesting idea but very complicated. Besides, kids like the freedom to work at their own pace. Here's an alternative. When you roll the tank to develop the image the amount of solution required is very small, like 2 ounces (125 ml). That's enough to develop half a dozen 5x7 prints. Each kid can have their own solutions in small containers. Jim K > Pinhole-Discussion mailing list > Pinhole-Discussion@p at ???
Re: [pinhole-discussion] developing tank pinhole camera?
> I'd like to see a camera made of red plastic so you can watch the image > appear when the developer is poured in. I've tried this with amber but the problem to solve here is that the intensity of sunlight is so strong the material would have to be just opaque in order to prevent fogging... you would not be able to see the image develop > Pinhole-Discussion mailing list > Pinhole-Discussion@p at ??? > unsubscribe or change your account at > http://www.???/discussion/ >
Re: [pinhole-discussion] Pin Hole Inn
Renee, you drove right by my house! next time give me a call, OK... the shots of the brewery are pretty nice... jim - Original Message - From: To: Sent: Saturday, January 05, 2002 7:43 PM Subject: Re: [pinhole-discussion] Pin Hole Inn > great idea...Cooperstown is wonderful...did a series of pinhole images at the > Ommegang brewery and a little B & B in MilfordRenee > > ___ > Pinhole-Discussion mailing list > Pinhole-Discussion@p at ??? > unsubscribe or change your account at > http://www.???/discussion/ >
Re: [pinhole-discussion] developing tank pinhole camera?
If you look at the Starlight Camera website www.paintcancamera.com you'll find a new pinhole camera called the Merlin XD that's made from a film developing tank so the chemistry can be added right after the exposure. I've been working on this for about 2 years and have actually filed a patent for a camera that is resistant to chemicals, but that's for commercial purposes. For personal use you might try: a) the same idea - use epoxy to add the pinhole after you drill a pilot hole b) the cap for 35/120 film stainless steel developing tanks fits on a 3" ABS or PVC pipe... you have to work with tools and alter the cap & wall to get the flow right, though c) use a plastic 35/120 developing tank... you must make it light tight by filling the hole used for pouring the chemistry into the tank... then you have to figure a way to get the solutions into the tank... this was easily solved by cutting a 3" tube from a 1 liter plastic Sprint chemistry container and fitting it over the top like a chimney d) use black electrical tape as shutter in all of the above and stainless steel for the pinholes Jim K
[pinhole-discussion] Pin Hole Inn
Just a fleeting idea for fun... Living next to Cooperstown, we're in the thick of the tourist trade during the summer. Maybe I can get one of the B&B's and convert it to the Pin Hole Inn, complete with a darkroom for travelin' & pinholin'! Pinhole portraits of all the guests! Franchise, anyone? Jim K www.paintcancamera.com ;-)
Re: [pinhole-discussion] focusing loupe and focusing cloth
this is a very fine idea... good thinking katharine! jim k - Original Message - From: "Katharine Thayer" To: Sent: Friday, January 04, 2002 2:14 AM Subject: Re: [pinhole-discussion] focusing loupe and focusing cloth > For darkening the windows of the darkroom, I use an opaque white cloth > available from fabric and decorating shops; it's called "blackout > cloth." Its nominal use is as a lining for bedroom curtains, for people > who like to sleep in and don't like the light in their eyes, but it > serves beautifully for our purpose as well. I like it because when the > lights are on the white cloth makes the room seem light instead of like > a cave.
Re: [pinhole-discussion] empty film canisters?
Great for those addicts of the zone system & beyond! "They also make dandy developing tanks for 35mm sheet film... "
[pinhole-discussion] empty film cannisters?
First, a joyous New Year to everyone! Here's a question that covers the majority of photographers. What do you do with those empty 35mm film cannisters? ... besides making pinhole cameras out of them! Here's what we use them for: 1. recycling 2. count coins before you load them into those roll thingies 3. nails, screws & hardware, especially in the clear ones 4. tape them into six pacs and put fishing lures in them 5. nifty packing peanuts 6. keep your custom paint colors indefinitely (if you're an artist) 7. handy in a sewing kit (to hold all those pins, needles, buttons) 9. kids toys (good for towers & other structures) 10. educational activities (counting, sorting, science fairs, field trip collecting, etc) 11. store sharp blades from x-axto and matt cutter 12. spices and small things for camping - Original Message - From: Bill Erickson To: pinhole-discussion@p at ??? Sent: Sunday, December 23, 2001 12:34 PM Subject: [pinhole-discussion] ice lens Oh please, won't someone pursue this,or share what you know. It's not pinbhole, but it is directly in the pinhole spirit of play and experiment.
Re: [pinhole-discussion] magnet in ferrous can
you can still order it at ACE hardware, even though it is not stocked on the shelf... it takes about 4 days to arrive - Original Message - From: "Andy Schmitt" To: Sent: Monday, December 24, 2001 12:32 PM Subject: RE: [pinhole-discussion] magnet in ferrous can > Funny but black ABS isn't used in plumbing in NJ...only the white & gray. > I'll have to go to Penn. for it... > andy > > -Original Message- > From: pinhole-discussion-admin@p at ??? > [mailto:pinhole-discussion-admin@p at ???]On Behalf Of Kosinski > Family > Sent: Saturday, December 22, 2001 10:44 PM > To: pinhole-discussion@p at ??? > Subject: Re: [pinhole-discussion] magnet in ferrous can > > > Murray, > > Yes, black ABS is the best way to go. You can order a length of it from any > ACE hardware store. A ten foot section cost me 9.95 last week. > > Jim K > > > ___ > Pinhole-Discussion mailing list > Pinhole-Discussion@p at ??? > unsubscribe or change your account at > http://www.???/discussion/ >
Re: [pinhole-discussion] ice lens
why not give it a try? freeze up a couple of plastic bowls of spring water then wet the two halves and stick them together... presto, you've got an ice lens! no doubt you technofreaks will come up with a sliding aperture strip to put in between the two halves... hey, might just try it myself! jim k - Original Message - From: Bill Erickson To: pinhole-discussion@p at ??? Sent: Sunday, December 23, 2001 12:34 PM Subject: [pinhole-discussion] ice lens Oh please, won't someone pursue this,or share what you know. It's not pinbhole, but it is directly in the pinhole spirit of play and experiment.
Re: [pinhole-discussion] loading paper into a cancamera
good to hear from you Lukasz, have a wonderful Christmas & New Year jim - Original Message - From: Łukasz Kacperczyk To: pinhole-discussion@p at ??? Sent: Sunday, December 23, 2001 7:09 AM Subject: RE: [pinhole-discussion] loading paper into a cancamera Hi Jim, I'm the guy from Poland you sent a camera to. In case you didn't get my email I'd like to thank you again. Got it just before Christmas, just like I hoped to. So - thanks again, and Mery Xmas. Łukasz -- Tego nie znajdziesz w żadnym sklepie! [ http://oferty.onet.pl ] --
Re: [pinhole-discussion] ice lens?
sure you can get clarity but what's so important about clarity? - Original Message - From: "Uptown Gallery" To: Sent: Sunday, December 23, 2001 2:11 AM Subject: [pinhole-discussion] ice lens? > I walk to the bus stop in the morning with my daughter, and I'm reminded > ever since I was a kid, I can't resist stepping on that weird kind of > extremely thin ice that forms a bridge over a puddlebut I can't figure > out how it forms- maybe it forms and water underneath slips away or > sublimates. > > Is it really possible to get any clarity with an ice lens? (we're months > from April 1..) > > Maybe a lens to collect solar energy to light a fire or a cigarettski. > > Murray. > > Murray > > > ___ > Pinhole-Discussion mailing list > Pinhole-Discussion@p at ??? > unsubscribe or change your account at > http://www.???/discussion/ >
Re: [pinhole-discussion] magnet in ferrous can
The easiest way to cut those magnets is with a scissors or a paper cutter. Jim K - Original Message - From: "Murray" To: Sent: Saturday, December 22, 2001 2:33 PM Subject: [pinhole-discussion] magnet in ferrous can > And use a polymer (plastic) magnet, like the kind business cards are > sometimes stuck to - they're flexible to conform to the curvature...I'll bet > you could cut it on a mat cutter (if you had access to one, anyway) with a > bevel. > > I had a mega-size oatmeal container I used for a shipping container - I > hated to give it up. And I'm sick of oatmeal now so I won't be acquiring one > of those gargantuan-sized ones anytiem soon. > > Is PVC pipe suitable, or is it not opaque to UV or visible light? Someone > told me to use black ABS pipe for BTZS developing tubes but with casual > Internet searching I haven't turned up any. > > Murray > > > ___ > Pinhole-Discussion mailing list > Pinhole-Discussion@p at ??? > unsubscribe or change your account at > http://www.???/discussion/ >
Re: [pinhole-discussion] magnet in ferrous can
Murray, Yes, black ABS is the best way to go. You can order a length of it from any ACE hardware store. A ten foot section cost me 9.95 last week. Jim K - Original Message - From: "Murray" To: Sent: Saturday, December 22, 2001 2:33 PM Subject: [pinhole-discussion] magnet in ferrous can > And use a polymer (plastic) magnet, like the kind business cards are > sometimes stuck to - they're flexible to conform to the curvature...I'll bet > you could cut it on a mat cutter (if you had access to one, anyway) with a > bevel. > > I had a mega-size oatmeal container I used for a shipping container - I > hated to give it up. And I'm sick of oatmeal now so I won't be acquiring one > of those gargantuan-sized ones anytiem soon. > > Is PVC pipe suitable, or is it not opaque to UV or visible light? Someone > told me to use black ABS pipe for BTZS developing tubes but with casual > Internet searching I haven't turned up any. > > Murray > > > ___ > Pinhole-Discussion mailing list > Pinhole-Discussion@p at ??? > unsubscribe or change your account at > http://www.???/discussion/ >
Re: [pinhole-discussion] loading paper into a cancamera
Hey Lukasz! welcome to the list... Here are a couple of ideas to add: Use CLEAR TAPE to hold the paper in place. This lets the light through and you don't get those white patches on the negatives. It works great with RC paper but you have to be careful when taking it off as it could rip the emulsion. Maybe you can use up some of the adhesive first by sticking the tape to a lint free cloth. Make a PAPER FRAME for the negative from cardboard. This would be a back + a window. It allows you to put the paper in the camera flat instead of curved. The window can be any shape. It can be placed perpindicular to the pinhole axis or at an angle to distort perspective. Good luck, Jim K - Original Message - From: Łukasz Kacperczyk To: pinhole Sent: Friday, December 21, 2001 11:27 PM Subject: [pinhole-discussion] loading paper into a cancamera Hi there, I'm new here, so my question is quite basic, namely: how do you load (I mean position) paper into a can camera? Do you use a tape that has both sides adhesive, or a normal one-sided tape? How do you make the paper stick to the camera's wall? Thanks in advance, Best regards, Łukasz -- Tego nie znajdziesz w żadnym sklepie! [ http://oferty.onet.pl ] --
Re: [pinhole-discussion] Vinegar as stop bath, vitamin c alternative
The citric acid bath gets exhausted very quickly. Vitamin C = ascorbic acid, have not tried it yet SPRINT's stop bath is only 5% acetic acid... will try to find out what else they put in there. Jim K - Original Message - From: "Don Hill" To: Sent: Thursday, December 20, 2001 11:53 PM Subject: Re: [pinhole-discussion] Vinegar as stop bath, vitamin c alternative > Regarding stop bath alternatives, citric acid or ascorbic acid or just > plain vitamin c is a great alternative for stop bath. If I remember > correctly you use 20g per liter of water for use as a stop. That's a > guess because I can't find the resource at the moment. I guess it's time > to admit I am becoming a huge fairweather fan of Patrick Gainer and his > work with vitamin c in the photographic processes. > > Don > > GET INTERNET ACCESS FROM JUNO! > Juno offers FREE or PREMIUM Internet access for less! > Join Juno today! For your FREE software, visit: > http://dl.www.juno.com/get/web/. > > ___ > Pinhole-Discussion mailing list > Pinhole-Discussion@p at ??? > unsubscribe or change your account at > http://www.???/discussion/ >
[pinhole-discussion] homebrew lens
The Russians used to make great lenses out of ice! Guess it all depends on your weather... Jim K - Original Message - From: "Uptown Gallery" To: Sent: Friday, December 21, 2001 2:04 AM Subject: [pinhole-discussion] request for off-list discussion of pinhole view camera with homebrew lens optionlens > Hello: > > Excuse the partial diversion from pinhole - I am thinking about what to do > with an 18" x 24" bellows I picked up - definitely pinhole first, but I > would like to have the option of experiementing with a lens - and the only > affordable way would be a homebrew lens. > > Is there anyone here who has any experience with simple 2-element lenses > with insertable Waterhouse stops willing email off list about some of the > basics of such a camera? > > Thanks > > Murray > > > ___ > Pinhole-Discussion mailing list > Pinhole-Discussion@p at ??? > unsubscribe or change your account at > http://www.???/discussion/ >
Re: [pinhole-discussion] Re: vinegar as stop bath
Here's more of the story on water/vinegar stop baths... Water alone is a good stop bath but it works by diluting the developer, which takes longer than the acid stop bath's chemical reaction. You need more agitation to eliminate streaks. Those spots than stop baths cause are from gas bubbles lodging on film when the acid level is high. I have had good luck when mixing 1 part distilled white vinegar with 9 parts water... less odor plus no developer carryover into the fixer... the fixer lasts longer and stays cleaner. When you mix developer & fixer directly, ammonia gas is formed and that has its own unpleasant side effect. If you want to add a few drops of bromo thymol blue (BTB) as an indicator it will turn purple when your home made stop bath becomes neutral and no longer works. SPRINT adds vanilla scent to their stop bath but it's too heavy for me... I'm going to try something like a few drops of wintergreen someday. pinhole on! Jim K - Original Message - From: "Gordon Holtslander" To: Sent: Thursday, December 20, 2001 2:33 PM Subject: Re: [pinhole-discussion] Re: vinegar as stop bath > Develpoers depend on an alkaline environment. When the film developer combination is placed in an acidic environment development slows > down or ceases completely. > > Stop bath is a mild acid, it lowers the pH of the environment to the extent that the developer can no longer function and thus stops > development. Water can also be used to lower the pH, but it does not lower the pH to the same extent as an acid. Water usually has a > neutral pH of 7- though the pH of water varies considerably from location to location. > > Water can usually be used to stop development. The caveats are if you have very alkaline water, or use a developer that works with a > neutral pH (I don't know of a developer that works at a neutral pH) it may not work > > Because water is not as acidic as stop bath it will not neutralize the dveloper as quickly as stop bath. Leaving it in the tray longer > will account for this. > > Stop bath may be necessary when the development process needs to be hatlted immediately. > > Gord > > > > > > Hi everyone, > > > > > > While we're still talking about darkroom chemistry... > > > just wondering if anyone has tried using vinegar as a > > > stop bath in the darkroom. Obviously there would be > > > no colour change when the pH gets too high, but I > > > don't process large volumes of prints at any given > > > time so I can't see this being a problem. > > > > > > > ___ > > Pinhole-Discussion mailing list > > Pinhole-Discussion@p at ??? > > unsubscribe or change your account at > > http://www.???/discussion/ > > ___ > Pinhole-Discussion mailing list > Pinhole-Discussion@p at ??? > unsubscribe or change your account at > http://www.???/discussion/ >
Re: [pinhole-discussion] pinholing underwater
thanks for the good ideas, everyone... will let you know what works... pinhole has jumped from flexible to fluid! jim k - Original Message - From: To: Sent: Wednesday, December 12, 2001 3:10 PM Subject: Re: [pinhole-discussion] pinholing underwater > > In a message dated 12/12/01 11:57:05 AM, aschm...@warwick.net writes: > > << btw...have you tried shooting on land with the camera full of water? >> > > neat! > or developer (during shooting) > leezy > > ___ > Pinhole-Discussion mailing list > Pinhole-Discussion@p at ??? > unsubscribe or change your account at > http://www.???/discussion/ >
[pinhole-discussion] pinholing underwater
I've been experimenting with underwater a bit using the paintcan cameras because the plastic coating allows them to be filled with water and other liquids (even b&w photo chemicals, you can develop the prints right in the paintcan)... after loading & securing a black tape shutter over the pinhole I fill the camera with water to keep pool, lake or stream water from entering the camera during exposure... some problems you encounter: - exposures are longer underwater - visibility is limited, you need to shoot pretty close to the subject - there is a lot of motion in water, which can shift the camera advantages: really great patterns & light abstractions plus lots of fun getting wet Jim K - Original Message - From: "Daniel Donnelly" To: Sent: Wednesday, December 12, 2001 4:51 AM Subject: [pinhole-discussion] Re: Pinhole-Discussion digest, Vol 1 #557 - 16 msgs > Has anyone any info on underwater pinhole? am > interested in any examples, tips etc > cheers > > __ > Do You Yahoo!? > Check out Yahoo! Shopping and Yahoo! Auctions for all of > your unique holiday gifts! Buy at http://shopping.yahoo.com > or bid at http://auctions.yahoo.com > > ___ > Pinhole-Discussion mailing list > Pinhole-Discussion@p at ??? > unsubscribe or change your account at > http://www.???/discussion/ >
[pinhole-discussion] no decent images
From: I have no decent images at the moment... leezy, I know what you mean! all my energy is going to students & teachers right now, hang in there... jim k
Re: [pinhole-discussion] Cool News
Thanks to Guillermo and YAHOO to Rosanne! Jim K - Original Message - From: "Guillermo" To: Sent: Monday, November 05, 2001 8:30 AM Subject: Re: [pinhole-discussion] Cool News > > - Original Message - > From: "Gordy Emery" > To: > Sent: Monday, November 05, 2001 7:49 AM > Subject: Re: [pinhole-discussion] Cool News > > > > WHAT IS THIS? > > > > > >YAHOO! > > YAHOO: > > Yet > Another > Hierarchical > Officious/ > Obstreperous/ > Odiferous/ > Organized > Oracle. > > It also NOW is used as a shout of joy, perhaps in a similar way you would > say HURRA. > > Guillermo > > > > ___ > Pinhole-Discussion mailing list > Pinhole-Discussion@p at ??? > unsubscribe or change your account at > http://www.???/discussion/ >
Re: [pinhole-discussion] Cool News
YAHOO!
Re: [pinhole-discussion] 2nd annual pinhole day planning is underway
I think the hardest thing will be handling the growing number of interested pinholers around the world and would like to suggest putting images in thumbnail form and viewing several at once to make it easier and quicker to get through the gallery. Jim K - Original Message - From: "Gregg Kemp" To: Sent: Monday, October 29, 2001 10:22 AM Subject: [pinhole-discussion] 2nd annual pinhole day planning is underway > Hi all, > > As we approach the end of 2001, plans are already underway for next year's "pinhole day". The 2nd annual "Worldwide Pinhole Photography Day" will be held on April 28, 2002. > > The "coordinating team" for WPPD2 consists of Guy Glorieux, Jean Daubas, Edward Levinson, Zernike Au, Rosanne Stutts, and myself. Diana Bloomfield will also continue as the WPPD "support" person. > > We only just formed as a team the past few days and are now in the process of identifying what is to be done. But, we would like your input in helping us evaluate the first "pinhole day" held this past spring, and also hear your suggestions for the upcoming WPPD2. To help us in this, please use the "Pinhole Day Feedback" forum, set up just for this purpose at: > > http://www.???/forum/ > > In the forum, you can add your comments or respond to others' comments. We really need your input to help make WPPD2 as big a success as the last one. > > The web site for "pinhole day" is http://www.pinholeday.org/ > > We will be updating the web site with new information as things evolve. Meanwhile, you can continue to enjoy the 1st WPPD by clicking on the "Gallery" link from the top menu. > > For those of you who have joined the list since the first pinhole day, held on April 29th of this year, WPPD is an event that originated on the pinhole discussion list and was carried out with the help of many volunteers from the list. > > We look forward to hearing from everyone - see you in the forum! > > Gregg > > > > ___ > Pinhole-Discussion mailing list > Pinhole-Discussion@p at ??? > unsubscribe or change your account at > http://www.???/discussion/ >
Re: [pinhole-discussion] Sally Mann
Sally has a MERLIN pinhole camera but the pics you refer to are not made with a pinhole camera Jim K - Original Message - From: "Peter Wiklund" To: Sent: Friday, October 26, 2001 2:21 AM Subject: [pinhole-discussion] Sally Mann > Just got the book "In response to place" which contained some beautiful > Sally Mann-photos. > They look like they could be pinhole-pics...but I'm not sure. > Does anyone know if she's been doing pinhole? > And I saw her book Mother Land on Photoeye - is that pinhole stuff? > > /peter wiklund > > ___ > Pinhole-Discussion mailing list > Pinhole-Discussion@p at ??? > unsubscribe or change your account at > http://www.???/discussion/ >
Re: [pinhole-discussion] Daylight Printer for B&W Paper
Hi Guy, To process the print just put your daylight contact printer into a changing bag along with a conventional film developing tank and put the paper in the tank. Then put the developing solutions right in the tank. You can do this with any size paper or tank as long as everything fits. Give it a try, Jim - Original Message - From: "Guy Glorieux" To: Sent: Saturday, October 13, 2001 11:24 AM Subject: Re: [pinhole-discussion] Daylight Printer for B&W Paper > Hi Jim, > I looked at you site a few days ago and thought that the printer was neet. But > I couldn't figure out how to process the print in broad daylight. I guess I > should have looked at your other page where you show the forthcoming daylight > processing tank. > > Can you provide more details about it. What size is the tank (is it a paint can > that hold 8x10 paper?). Have you set a price for it? > > Looks cool! I guess this whole kit could be used for cyanotypes as well. > > Cheers, > > Guy > > Kosinski Family wrote: > > > Hi folks, > > The details of a simple and inexpensive daylight contact printer for black & > > white papers can now be found on my website on the page named 'Look, No > > Darkroom!' Now you can really make B&W prints without a darkroom. Actually, > > you can teach a whole course this way, with the exception of using an > > enlarger to change the image size. However, that's easy with a scanner and a > > computer these days. > > Enjoy, > > Jim K > > www.paintcancamera.com > > > > ___ > > Pinhole-Discussion mailing list > > Pinhole-Discussion@p at ??? > > unsubscribe or change your account at > > http://www.???/discussion/ > > > ___ > Pinhole-Discussion mailing list > Pinhole-Discussion@p at ??? > unsubscribe or change your account at > http://www.???/discussion/ >
Re: [pinhole-discussion] Look, No Darkroom! (Look, no luck!)
the site is www.paintcancamera.com - Original Message - From: "Murray" To: Sent: Friday, October 12, 2001 7:38 PM Subject: [pinhole-discussion] Look, No Darkroom! (Look, no luck!) > Anyone know the actual URL for this site? I didn't find it with a web > search. > > Murray > > > ___ > Pinhole-Discussion mailing list > Pinhole-Discussion@p at ??? > unsubscribe or change your account at > http://www.???/discussion/ >
[pinhole-discussion] [PHDL] daylight printer for b&w papers
Hi folks, The details of a simple and inexpensive (less than $5) daylight contact printer for black & white papers are on the website on the page named 'Look, No Darkroom!' You can really make B&W prints indoors or outdoors without a darkroom. Actually, you can teach a whole course this way, with the exception of using an enlarger to change image size. However, that's easy with a scanner and a computer these days. Enjoy, Jim K www.paintcancamera.com ps: PHDL = Pin Hole Discussion List
Re: [pinhole-discussion] Daylight Printer for B&W Paper
Hi folks, The details of a simple and inexpensive daylight contact printer for black & white papers can now be found on my website on the page named 'Look, No Darkroom!' Now you can really make B&W prints without a darkroom. Actually, you can teach a whole course this way, with the exception of using an enlarger to change the image size. However, that's easy with a scanner and a computer these days. Enjoy, Jim K www.paintcancamera.com
Re: [pinhole-discussion] How To Make A Camera Obscura
Hi folks, If you are interested in learning how to make a giant camera obscura I have just placed a new page on my site with easy to follow instructions and lots of activities (especially good for teachers). If you have not done this you're in for a real treat! If you have done this you'll probably find something new here. www.paintcancamera.com click on 'A Giant Camera' at the upper left of the page Have fun! Jim K
Re: [pinhole-discussion] Holiday Pinhole cards
I'm with Marcy... just put your name on the list and be happy with what comes your way! Jim K - Original Message - From: "Marcy Merrill" To: Sent: Tuesday, October 02, 2001 9:31 PM Subject: [pinhole-discussion] Holiday Pinhole cards > rob wrote: "i don't imagine this is just a list of people to send to > willy-nilly is it?" > > I have my holiday cards printed in volume. Sorry if I'm breaking the rules, > but I'll send them willy-nilly, in envelopes, to everyone on the list. I > don't expect anything in return. Should I receive a card in the mail from a > list subscriber, I'll be totally thrilled! -MM > > > Marcy Merrill > Photographer > www.merrillphoto.com > > > > ___ > Pinhole-Discussion mailing list > Pinhole-Discussion@p at ??? > unsubscribe or change your account at > http://www.???/discussion/ >
Re: [pinhole-discussion] Pintoids
We have Ricola here, too but not in those metal containers. Maybe we should start asking for them in the stores! Jim K - Original Message - From: "Jean Daubas" To: Sent: Tuesday, October 02, 2001 8:28 PM Subject: Re: [pinhole-discussion] Pintoids > Hello Markus ! > > Sorry to be so late for my reply! > > >Being a Swiss, I have not the faintest idea what > > an Altoid container is. > > Never mind for the Altoîds... I do not find them in France. > > But when I go climbing in the Swiss Alps, I often buy "Ricola" candies which > are made from Alpine flowers juices and honey. They are good and above all, > I may buy them in small round metal boxes which are very efficient to build > pinhole cameras, with a pretty "clean" Swiss picture of the Cervin mountain > (= the Matterhorn) on the lid. > I suggest you to try building a pinhole camera with this typical Swiss > product "ricola" > > Enjoy the taste of Alpine flowers and the Cervin vision through a pinhole > :-)) > > we are almost neighbours (I live in the Jura mountains, east of France, at > 120 kms from the Swiss border...) > Jean > - Original Message - > From: "Markus Birsfelder" > To: > Sent: Wednesday, September 19, 2001 9:25 AM > Subject: AW: [pinhole-discussion] Pintoids > > > > Hello Marcy > > Your pictures are great and I would like to try making some > > of my own. Being a Swiss, I have not the faintest idea what > > an Altoid container is. Could you give me a hint. > > Thanks > > Markus > > > > > > ___ > Pinhole-Discussion mailing list > Pinhole-Discussion@p at ??? > unsubscribe or change your account at > http://www.???/discussion/ >
Re: [pinhole-discussion] Christmas Pinhole Cards
Rob, it's just right... easy to use, too I have added my name to the Christmas Card List and encourage everyone interested to do the same Thanks! Jim K - Original Message - From: "R Duarte" To: Sent: Friday, September 28, 2001 5:15 PM Subject: Re: [pinhole-discussion] Christmas Pinhole Cards > This is a really cool idea. I'm definitely in. But, I think sending our > email addresses to the list is going to get very messy and confusing. > > I like George's page but it might be cool to have a separate list just for > the christmas card exchange? My site already has the capability to let > people add their own comments to a given page on my site, so I made this > one: > > http://www.rahji.com/noindex/pinholexmas.php3 > > It's not linked anywhere else on the site so it would only be used by people > on the list. Let me know if you think it's worth using. > > Rob > > > > From: "Kosinski Family" > > Reply-To: pinhole-discussion@p at ??? > > Date: Fri, 28 Sep 2001 14:25:01 -0400 > > To: > > Subject: Re: [pinhole-discussion] Christmas Pinhole Cards > > > > Very good idea Natalie! Count me in... > > How do we start a pinhole discussion card exchange list? > > Maybe we can just put an email with our address, like this > > > > Jim Kosinski > > PO Box 540 > > Cherry Valley NY 13320 usa > > > > > > - Original Message - > > From: "Natalie Nadozirny" > > To: > > Sent: Friday, September 28, 2001 12:25 PM > > Subject: [pinhole-discussion] Christmas Pinhole Cards > > > > > >> I would love to participate in a Christmas Card Swap! This gives me > >> incentive to go out and do some pinholin'!! And I love to get art in the > >> mail. > >> Put my name on that list. > >> Natalie > >> > >> _ > >> Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp > >> > >> > >> ___ > >> Pinhole-Discussion mailing list > >> Pinhole-Discussion@p at ??? > >> unsubscribe or change your account at > >> http://www.???/discussion/ > >> > > > > > > ___ > > Pinhole-Discussion mailing list > > Pinhole-Discussion@p at ??? > > unsubscribe or change your account at > > http://www.???/discussion/ > > > > > ___ > Pinhole-Discussion mailing list > Pinhole-Discussion@p at ??? > unsubscribe or change your account at > http://www.???/discussion/ >
Re: [pinhole-discussion] Christmas Pinhole Cards
Very good idea Natalie! Count me in... How do we start a pinhole discussion card exchange list? Maybe we can just put an email with our address, like this Jim Kosinski PO Box 540 Cherry Valley NY 13320 usa - Original Message - From: "Natalie Nadozirny" To: Sent: Friday, September 28, 2001 12:25 PM Subject: [pinhole-discussion] Christmas Pinhole Cards > I would love to participate in a Christmas Card Swap! This gives me > incentive to go out and do some pinholin'!! And I love to get art in the > mail. > Put my name on that list. > Natalie > > _ > Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp > > > ___ > Pinhole-Discussion mailing list > Pinhole-Discussion@p at ??? > unsubscribe or change your account at > http://www.???/discussion/ >
Re: [pinhole-discussion] new list moderator
Guy's the GUY! best of luck jim - Original Message - From: "Ana Maria Schultze" To: Sent: Tuesday, September 25, 2001 8:37 PM Subject: Re: [pinhole-discussion] new list moderator > Great choice, Gregg. > > > I'm very pleased to announce that Guy Glorieux will be joining James Kellar > > and myself as a list moderator. ... > > > Welcome, Guy! > > good luck, Guy! > > regards from Brazil > > > Ana Maria Schultze >Sao Paulo - SP - Brasil > - > arte-educar-ow...@egroups.com > arteeducad...@hotmail.com > uin 1457876 > > Conheça a lista de discussão sobre arte-educação: > http://br.groups.yahoo.com/group/arte-educar > Veja as mensagens já postadas em: > http://www.eScribe.com/art/arte-educar/ > > ___ > Pinhole-Discussion mailing list > Pinhole-Discussion@p at ??? > unsubscribe or change your account at > http://www.???/discussion/ >
Re: [pinhole-discussion] "pinhole camera" in any lang
ta' merci & danke to Bill, Jean & Deiter we're all getting closer, which is fun! jim - Original Message - From: "Dieter Bublitz" To: Sent: Wednesday, September 26, 2001 10:22 AM Subject: Re: [pinhole-discussion] "pinhole camera" in any lang > Hi Jim, > > On Tue, 25 Sep 2001 15:40:50 -0400, "Kosinski Family" > wrote: > > >How do you write "pinhole camera" and "natural camera" in Spanish? > > > >How about some other languages? > > > > In German it's "Lochkamera". > > Dieter > > > -- > Dieter's Lochkamera Seite: http://www.bingo-ev.de/~db106/ > drf-Süd-Homepage: http://www.drf-sued.de/ > > ___ > Pinhole-Discussion mailing list > Pinhole-Discussion@p at ??? > unsubscribe or change your account at > http://www.???/discussion/ >
Re: [pinhole-discussion] "pinhole camera" in any lang
muchas gracias, Guillermo! Jim - Original Message - From: "Guillermo" To: Sent: Tuesday, September 25, 2001 6:50 PM Subject: Re: [pinhole-discussion] "pinhole camera" in any lang > > - Original Message - > From: "Kosinski Family" > > > > How do you write "pinhole camera" and "natural camera" in Spanish? > > Pinhole camera would be: "Camara Estenopeica" and the literal translation > for natural camera would be "Camara Natural". > > Finally a question I can answer cathegorically! (I hope :-) > > Hasta luego, > > Guillermo > > > > > > > > ___ > Pinhole-Discussion mailing list > Pinhole-Discussion@p at ??? > unsubscribe or change your account at > http://www.???/discussion/ >
[pinhole-discussion] "pinhole camera" in any lang
Por favor, please refresh my memory. How do you write "pinhole camera" and "natural camera" in Spanish? How about some other languages? I'd like to share this information with my photo classes and my wife's elementary school students. Many Thanks, Jim K
Re: [pinhole-discussion] Tourist With Pinhole In NYC
Jeff, those photos are super! - Original Message - From: "Jeff Dilcher" To: Sent: Sunday, September 23, 2001 4:16 PM Subject: [pinhole-discussion] Tourist With Pinhole In NYC > A few photos from a recent trip to NYC. > > http://www.hiddenworld.net/pinhole/nyc/ > > -Jeff Dilcher > > ___ > Pinhole-Discussion mailing list > Pinhole-Discussion@p at ??? > unsubscribe or change your account at > http://www.???/discussion/ >
Re: [pinhole-discussion] (no subject)
if it's in the MSDS it's very real jim k - Original Message - From: "Natalie Nadozirny" To: Sent: Thursday, September 20, 2001 5:19 PM Subject: [pinhole-discussion] (no subject) > I've ben reading this list for a while, and enjoy it very much. Maybe > someone can answer my most recent film question. Is peeling apart an > exposed and developed Polaroid 600 film safe? My friend, who is a high > school art teacher, has done and will do projects with her classes in which > they cut and peel apart the film from the base. I have a degree in > photography, and all my profs always taught us that Polaroid emulsion is not > the safest chemistry to be touching bare handed. I always use caution and > gloves when handling and peeling apart Polaroid films, or transferring > emulsions. My friend insists Polaroid emulsion is safe and fun. I have > written Polaroid and not received a response yet. I have read their MSDS's > which say the chemistry can cause skin burns. My friend still doesn't > believe me. Any suggestions/advice? > > Natalie, 26, Baltimore, MD, part-time wedding photographer, pinhead > > _ > Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp > > > ___ > Pinhole-Discussion mailing list > Pinhole-Discussion@p at ??? > unsubscribe or change your account at > http://www.???/discussion/ >
Re: [pinhole-discussion] Electrical tape for pinhole purposes
"Most of it hardly stuck at all and the rest came loose pretty quick" vinyl tape is pretty strong, if you stretch it out and put it on an object it will shrink back and the adhesive will let go... the trick is to let it relax back to its original size after you pull it off the roll, then apply it of course, if it's just bad tape there's nothing you can do about it jim k
Re: [pinhole-discussion] teacher Gordy Emery
Hi Gordon, I'll get a camera out to you soon! (now, wasn't that easy...) other info can be found on the websiteon the website www.paintcancamera.com Thanks Jim K - Original Message - From: "Gordy Emery" To: Sent: Wednesday, September 19, 2001 5:38 PM Subject: Re: [pinhole-discussion] Re: [pinhole-discussion] teacher Gordy Emery > I am a photography teacher for Madison Area Tec. Collage-Reedsburg, > Wisconsin. My name and address is: > GORDON EMERY > M.A.T.C. > P.O. BOX 419 > 300 ALEXANDER AVE. > REEDSBURG, WI.53959-0419 > O. 608-524-4386 H. 608-524-3841 > FAX 608-524-8424 > I would like information as to the free camera, as well as supplies and > prices for the class room. > Thank you, > GORDY EMERY > E-MAIL: geme...@hotmail.com > > > >From: "Kosinski Family" > >Reply-To: pinhole-discussion@p at ??? > >To: > >Subject: Re: [pinhole-discussion] Re: [pinhole-discussion] > >Date: Mon, 17 Sep 2001 16:46:27 -0400 > > > > > In a message dated 9/16/01 6:20:18 PM, tricks...@aol.com writes: > >Is anybody on this list in college, like studying photo or anything? How > >old > >is everybody and where does everybody live? > > > > > >I'm Jim K and live in Cherry Valley, NY, a very beautiful place in the > >northern Catskill mountains, right near Cooperstown. In the fall & spring I > >teach photography at Hartwick College... am middle aged, haha (to quote > >leezy). > > > >I make pinhole cameras and give one to a teacher every week, the website is > >www.paintcancamera.com > > > >A new camera that you put the chemistry in and develop the pictures > >anywhere > >you happen to be is coming out this fall. All you need is a black changing > >bag and a few containers to work in the field or classroom. > > > >Am very close to solving all the difficulties of making b&w prints without > >a > >darkroom, using a few simple tools, even in broad daylight! This will allow > >anyone to undertake a complete introductory course in b&w photography > >without an enlarger or special room... will let you know as things > >progress. > > > >We all work hard and like to have fun while we're at it! > >Good luck. > > > >and thanks again to everyone for the great support in recent events... > > > > > > > > > >___ > >Pinhole-Discussion mailing list > >Pinhole-Discussion@p at ??? > >unsubscribe or change your account at > >http://www.???/discussion/ > > > _ > Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp > > > ___ > Pinhole-Discussion mailing list > Pinhole-Discussion@p at ??? > unsubscribe or change your account at > http://www.???/discussion/ >
Re: [pinhole-discussion] Pintoids
Marcy, what a nice job! Keep it up and let me know when you get close to NY! Jim K
Re: [pinhole-discussion] Lights across the sky, Tues 18 September 2001
just heard from a friend that the U.S. has asked everyone to step out on their lawns tonight at 10:30 and light a candle. They will be taking a satellite picture and posting it on the news tomorrow morning. 10:30 PM EASTERN TIME 9:30 Central, 8:30 Mountain, 7:30 Pacific please forward Jim K
Re: [pinhole-discussion] Re: [pinhole-discussion]
> In a message dated 9/16/01 6:20:18 PM, tricks...@aol.com writes: Is anybody on this list in college, like studying photo or anything? How old is everybody and where does everybody live? I'm Jim K and live in Cherry Valley, NY, a very beautiful place in the northern Catskill mountains, right near Cooperstown. In the fall & spring I teach photography at Hartwick College... am middle aged, haha (to quote leezy). I make pinhole cameras and give one to a teacher every week, the website is www.paintcancamera.com A new camera that you put the chemistry in and develop the pictures anywhere you happen to be is coming out this fall. All you need is a black changing bag and a few containers to work in the field or classroom. Am very close to solving all the difficulties of making b&w prints without a darkroom, using a few simple tools, even in broad daylight! This will allow anyone to undertake a complete introductory course in b&w photography without an enlarger or special room... will let you know as things progress. We all work hard and like to have fun while we're at it! Good luck. and thanks again to everyone for the great support in recent events...
Re: [pinhole-discussion] Re: World Trade Center attacks
This is what a good family is all about! All peoples in the world are connected in many ways... Keep your courage alive and stay well, Jim K - Original Message - From: To: Sent: Thursday, September 13, 2001 9:00 AM Subject: Re: [pinhole-discussion] Re: World Trade Center attacks > > In a message dated 9/13/01 2:12:13 AM, mrobe...@pb.seflin.org writes: > > << And To all of you world wide who have sent us your condolences and your > prayers. It means a great deal to all of us in the US, knowing that we > are not alone in this tragedy. > > THANK YOU! >> > > and thank you to all my Pinhole buddies from me too. > You are truly buddies in this horrific hour. Your words of sympathy and > support are extremely meaningful. We're like our own NATO Alliance. > Love, > leezy > > ___ > Pinhole-Discussion mailing list > Pinhole-Discussion@p at ??? > unsubscribe or change your account at > http://www.???/discussion/ >
Re: [pinhole-discussion] OT World Trade center
the support from around the world is truly helpful, the next few weeks are going to be tough so hang in there and find that inner strength many thanks jim k - Original Message - From: "Tina Martin" To: Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2001 5:50 PM Subject: [pinhole-discussion] OT World Trade center > The hospital where I work in Toronto, Canada (Sunnybrook) is on standby > alert to provide care if necessary. We wish we could do more. > What a sad, sad day. > > Tina Martin > It's About Light! > www.tinamartin.com > > > _ > Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp > > > ___ > Pinhole-Discussion mailing list > Pinhole-Discussion@p at ??? > unsubscribe or change your account at > http://www.???/discussion/ >
Re: [pinhole-discussion] changing colours
Brigitte, Lots of folks would like to know this technique! Thanks, Jim K www.paintcancamera.com > - Original Message - > From: > > > Or how about taking it further still. I get the xerox copies printed with > > the image reversed and then transfer the image with solvent onto > > watercolour paper. Prints done this way about 7-8 years ago show no > > visible changes in colour. > > Regards, > > Brigitte. > > I heard before of this technique but never sounded as a good thing to try, > but now, it really does!! So let me ask you: could you give me specifics on > the solvent you use and if possible the technique used to transfer the > image? > > Pls, be as prolific as possible in your explanation. > > Many thanks > > Guillermo > > > ___ > Pinhole-Discussion mailing list > Pinhole-Discussion@p at ??? > unsubscribe or change your account at > http://www.???/discussion/ >
Re: [pinhole-discussion] Relacement for Quaker Oats Box
Here's a great item for making pinhole cameras... Stores that sell carpet throw out the long tubes that the carpet comes rolled on. These are super heavy duty paper tubes and can be 12+ feet long... you can cut them to any length for pinhole cameras. It's easy to make ends for these cameras with paper & black tape. Jim K "...just make a new top for the cardboard box. Use thin cardboard and black masking tape to make a nice slide on top. > >> > "That's what I do. or I use a salt box for 5" x 7" paper." > leezy > > ___ > Pinhole-Discussion mailing list > Pinhole-Discussion@p at ??? > unsubscribe or change your account at > http://www.???/discussion/ >
Re: [pinhole-discussion] PINHOLE TIME CAPSULE!
"> We could do both. > leezy" maybe we could have a time capsule as part of WPPD and then have a celebration in 2011 and open the capsule as part of our festivities jim
[pinhole-discussion] PINHOLE TIME CAPSULE!
Brilliant idea Guillermo, why don't we all make a time capsule as the next discussion group project? It should be a lot easier than WPPD, which turned out so well! Jim
Re: [pinhole-discussion] Storage of unprocessed photo paper negatives
How long can exposed photo paper used as negative be stored before processing? When I first started working in photography (1977) it was in a camera store. An elder man came in with a twin lens reflex camera that he found in his attic. The camera was put there in storage by his father in 1934 and the exposed roll of B&W film was still in the camera. We developed it N+1 and the negatives came out beautifully after waiting 43 years! Jim K
Re: [pinhole-discussion] Safelight alternatives
About the chemicals in those glow sticks, Greg writes, - Original Message - From: "Gregory Parkinson" "This doesn't sound toxic to me, so I called another diver and I think we have an explanation" Greg, Thanks very much for taking the time to look into this aspect of the glow sticks. I agree with you, the chemicals you describe do not seem to present any hazards to a landfill or municipal waste system. The plastics would be a pollution problem if they were burned out in the yard, though. Keeping the environment as clean as we can is a smart thing to do! Best, Jim
Re: [pinhole-discussion] Safelight alternatives
Leezy, you can get good ones at Educational Innovations www.teachersource.com good prices, too Jim > > << Orange & red GLOW STICKS, >> > > What are these? > Where do you purchase them? > leezy >
Re: [pinhole-discussion] Safelight alternatives
about glow sticks, greg writes: the chemicals in them are so nasty > that you really don't want them in your landfills. > What chemicals might those be? Jim K
Re: [pinhole-discussion] Safelight alternatives
Safelight tests for the following worked out well for RC papers: 1. Red Christmas light bulb in a night light fixture (see www.paintcancamera.com) 2. Orange Christmas light bulb in a night light fixture 3. Orange & red GLOW STICKS, if you have no electricity! This is really fun and is a great demonstration if you are teaching. Jim K - Original Message - From: "Nick Dvoracek" To: Sent: Friday, July 13, 2001 9:31 AM Subject: [pinhole-discussion] Safelight > I've been using a red "party" bulb from the grocery store for about > 10 years. You have to check around the base to make sure the red > coloring covers completely. I covered the gaps with opaque tape. > I've also used orange christmas tree lights. I haven't tried leaving > a piece of paper out for 24 hours, but I haven't been all that > careful about handling paper under it. > > >From: "Gordon J. Holtslander" > > > >The only one of these that _has_ to be bought from a photo store is > >the safelight. > >The rest can be got from a hardware store. > > > Nick > > -- > Nick Dvoracek dvora...@uwosh.edu > Director of Media Services Voice: 920-424-7363 > University of Wisconsin OshkoshFax: 920-424-7324 > > ___ > Pinhole-Discussion mailing list > Pinhole-Discussion@p at ??? > unsubscribe or change your account at > http://www.???/discussion/ >
Re: [pinhole-discussion] process partial 120 rolls
The clip test is easily done by pro labs with a "dip & dunk" processor. Call around on the phone to save time finding someone who can help. - Original Message - From: Lisa Reddig To: pinhole-discussion@p at ??? Sent: Thursday, July 05, 2001 2:45 PM Subject: Re: [pinhole-discussion] process partial 120 rolls There is something called a "clip test" which is done with a small part of a roll to see if the exposure was right. Then if that test develops ok they develop the rest of the roll that way or they alter it as needed. I don't know about cost though. Any professional lab has the ability to do this, because professional commercial photographers need it done some times when the lighting was iffy at a shoot. - Original Message - From: pinhol...@aol.com To: pinhole-discussion@p at ??? Sent: Thursday, July 05, 2001 2:16 PM Subject: Re: [pinhole-discussion] process partial 120 rolls In a message dated 7/5/2001 12:48:52 PM Eastern Daylight Time, hol...@duke.usask.ca writes: I don't process color film - has anyone had experience taking a partial roll of 120 film to a lab. I would likely have to wrap the film back into the backing paper and on the reel. I don't think that any lab will touch something like that. They are not set up to process pieces of film. They are set for long rolls. Most professional labs (ones that usually process 120) process many rolls at a time. If you give them a piece of film they will probably be very upset with the prospect of a piece of film damaging their set up and other film. Be very careful! Joel
Re: [pinhole-discussion] Any Swedes out there?
Peter, please let us know if you can't find any other Swedes! You can always have an international exhibition. Jim K - Original Message - From: To: Sent: Thursday, July 05, 2001 8:12 AM Subject: [pinhole-discussion] Any Swedes out there? > This is for all you Swedish pinholers: > (Ok, I could as well have written the rest in Swedish, but in order to be somewhat polite (?) to all you non-Swedes, it's in English...) > > I have got an exhibition-opportunity at a small art hall in a Stockholm suburb (nothing fancy, but still...) > But it's not supposed to be a one-man-show, so I need to find another Swedish pinholer who can be my co-exhibitor. > I would say that the exhibition might be due for late Spring 2002. > > If you're interested, don't hesitate to contact me! > > Hej då. > > Peter Wiklund > Lilla Aspuddsv 8 > 126 49 Hägersten > tel 08 6456323 > mobil 0708 492 392 > peterwikl...@spray.se > > > > _s_p_r_a_y_ > Här börjar Internet! > Skaffa gratis e-mail och gratis Internet på http://www.spray.se > > Ring upp till 70% billigare med Spray Smart http://www.spray.se/smart/allman > > > ___ > Pinhole-Discussion mailing list > Pinhole-Discussion@p at ??? > unsubscribe or change your account at > http://www.???/discussion/ >
[pinhole-discussion] pinhole suppliers
Fom time to time people mention they purchase pinholes from suppliers. Could we start a thread of pinhole supply contacts? I'll go first: Pinhole Resource http://www.pinholeresource.com/ Telephone/Fax 505-536-9942 or email: pinh...@gilanet.com Micro-drilled Pinholes We are now offering a set of 12 micro-drilled pinholes in individual 1.5 in. square sheets of .001 in. grade 400 full hard stainless steel, a hard, durable and highly corrosion resistant metal. Sizes of holes measure: .0059", .0087", .0102", .0126", .0138", .0160", .0181", .0200", .0225", .0250", .0276", .0320". These sizes fit 3/4" to 17" focal lengths if used optimally. Includes an optimal chart with focal lengths.
Re: [pinhole-discussion] Re: Pinhole-Discussion digest, Vol 1 #369 - 4 msgs
Good job Roseanne! - Original Message - From: ethereal art To: pinhole-discussion@p at ??? Sent: Friday, June 29, 2001 4:07 PM Subject: [pinhole-discussion] Re: Pinhole-Discussion digest, Vol 1 #369 - 4 msgs >I've been teaching a summer workshop for 4th - 7th graders for the >last two weeks. > >A look at their work is available at >http://idea.uwosh.edu/nick/goal/pinhole.html > >Nick Aren't kids GREAT. They bring no baggage into the process. I love to see the wonderment in their eyes when a photograph magically appears in the developer. Good job, teacher. Good job, artists. Rosanne
Re: [pinhole-discussion] Underwater With Merlin!
Leslie, there's nothing new under the sun, but I think it's the first pinhole camera on the market that's designed to get wet (and it's under $10) cheers Jim K ps: it's not the last, though stay tuned - Original Message - From: "Leslie Green" To: Sent: Friday, June 22, 2001 3:38 PM Subject: Re: [pinhole-discussion] Underwater With Merlin! > Jim, I dig your image, and, not to take away from it, > but isn't there an example of underwater pinhole in > Eric Renner's book, in a pond, I think? He used a > jar, I think. > > Leslie(<--fuzzy memory)
[pinhole-discussion] Underwater With Merlin!
Good news, and you're the first to see it! The following upload link shows the first underwater pinhole image. I filled the Little Merlin camera with water, taped the pinhole shut, submerged it in a fish tank & made the exposure with absolutely no harm to the camera. There is a small ceramic angel and a wine glass filled with shells & rocks in the tank. After trying to work something out for a few days I can tell you that light is very unpredictable underwater! It's a lot of fun, though... Jim Kosinski http://www.???/discussion/upload/gallery2001.php?cmd=max&start=&pic=underwater150x2.jpg www.paintcancamera.com sorry, my site is down for a few days due to server maintenance ;-)
Re: [pinhole-discussion] Reducing dense negatives
Anchell covers the topic of negative & print reduction pretty well in The Darkroom Cookbook: For overexposed film use Kodak Farmer's Reducer R-4a. For overdeveloped film use Kodak Farmer's Reducer R-4b. You can reduce the negative a little at a time and make test prints. The formulas are given in the book. Jim K - Original Message - From: To: Sent: Sunday, June 17, 2001 9:36 PM Subject: [pinhole-discussion] Re: Pinhole-Discussion digest, Vol 1 #352 - 6 msgs > > Hi Guy, > At the risk of being redundant, the suggestion to use the Farmers solutions > separately is what I would go with. If you use the bleach bath first then you > can always redevelop your film and try again. I would dilute the bleach more > than the directions, perhaps 50% more. Agitate and watch closely. Remove and > wash the film just before it reaches the optimum printable density -- the > fixer will lighten the film a bit more. If it is still to dark you can > continue to bleach but only after the film has been thoroughly washed to > remove all fixer residue. > Best > Rusty > > In a message dated 6/17/01 12:11:07 PM Eastern Daylight Time, > pinhole-discussion-request@p at ??? writes: > > > > > Hi all, > > > > > > > > I just shot a couple of rolls of 120 B&W film with my pinhole camera > and > > > > they turned out to be massively overexposed (due to my own error). > > > > > > > > Any suggested treatment from anybody? I hear that the stuff to use is > > > > Farmer's Reducer but I've never used it. Does anyone have experience > > > > with this chemical? Does it remove density uniformely across the > > > > negative? I guess I'm worried about losing the shadow area before the > > > > highlights become light enough to be printable. > > > > > > > > Thanks in advance. > > > > > > > > Guy > > ___ > Pinhole-Discussion mailing list > Pinhole-Discussion@p at ??? > unsubscribe or change your account at > http://www.???/discussion/ >
Re: [pinhole-discussion] A History of Mistakes
We have no errors! - Original Message - From: "John Ptak" To: Sent: Sunday, June 17, 2001 10:43 PM Subject: [pinhole-discussion] A History of Mistakes > Does anyone know if any sites have archives of > annotated images of (technical) ph-ing mistakes? > Examples of mistakes can be very significant and > useful things, and I just wondered if anyone has > assembled, say, what the 25 (or whatever) most common > errors in ph-ing look like. > > If not, is this something in which this group may have > an interest in assembling? > > I'm relatively new to this group so please forgive if > I'm missing something that is obvious to everyone (but > me). > > Best regards, > > John Ptak > jfp...@thesciencebookstore.com > > __ > Do You Yahoo!? > Spot the hottest trends in music, movies, and more. > http://buzz.yahoo.com/ > > ___ > Pinhole-Discussion mailing list > Pinhole-Discussion@p at ??? > unsubscribe or change your account at > http://www.???/discussion/ >
Re: [pinhole-discussion] Overexposed negatives
John Sexton gives this problem some thought and possibly offers a solution "Kodak Farmers Reducer mixed according to manufacturers' suggestions is not an effective reducer for T-MAX emulsions. If you need to reduce T-MAX films try Kodak Farmer's Reducer R-4a which is included in most formularies." found online at http://www.cs.berkeley.edu/~qtluong/photography/lf/articles/sexton-tmax.html Jim K - Original Message - From: "Guy Glorieux" To: "Pinhole List" Sent: Saturday, June 16, 2001 12:05 PM Subject: [pinhole-discussion] Overexposed negatives > Hi all, > > I just shot a couple of rolls of 120 B&W film with my pinhole camera and > they turned out to be massively overexposed (due to my own error). > > Any suggested treatment from anybody? I hear that the stuff to use is > Farmer's Reducer but I've never used it. Does anyone have experience > with this chemical? Does it remove density uniformely across the > negative? I guess I'm worried about losing the shadow area before the > highlights become light enough to be printable. > > Thanks in advance. > > Guy > > > ___ > Pinhole-Discussion mailing list > Pinhole-Discussion@p at ??? > unsubscribe or change your account at > http://www.???/discussion/ >
Re: [pinhole-discussion] pinhole day workshops etc
Gordon writes: "I think more people would be willing to try pinhole photography if someone was there to show how easy it can be." That's exactly the premise of the paintcan camera and darkroom kit! Follow-ups will make it even easier. One I can tell you about is that I just received a fellowship from Tufts University to prepare an illustrated step by step website for making a camera obscura and pinhole cameras from everyday materials. Perhaps it can be used with WPPD... any and all suggestions are more than welcome. (Apologies for playing my own tune here, but I am working hard to get this knowledge out to the public... and I know others are, too.) cheers, Jim K www.paintcancamera.com
Re: [pinhole-discussion] The WPPD1 complete exhibit
I would like this site to remain up, too, as it serves as an excellent teaching tool. Jim K - Original Message - From: To: Sent: Saturday, June 02, 2001 2:59 AM Subject: Re: [pinhole-discussion] The WPPD1 complete exhibit > I agree with Ms Garfinkel about hoping the site can remain up for some time . > I too, enjoy looking at the works over and over, in fact I never tire of it, > Even though the submission is closed, I continue to encourage all around me, > to go see the site, time and time again, people have thanked me , but I > believe the real thanks goes out to the teams that made this all possible. > Thanks Gregg. Zernike, and so many others who made this all a wonderful > experience, > > Dennis Alfrey > DAlfrey @aol.com > > ___ > Pinhole-Discussion mailing list > Pinhole-Discussion@p at ??? > unsubscribe or change your account at > http://www.???/discussion/ >
Re: [pinhole-discussion] Polaroid P/N film
many folks believe "> Polaroid P/N Type 55 film is the type that you must expose for either the > negative or the print. It is an either or proposition" This is not always the case! When the lighting is lower in contrast you can expose for a good print and get a good negative at the same time because the tonal range of the subject is compressed and fits the range of the negative nicely. You can increase the negative contrast with Selenium toner if you like. Try it! Jim K www.paintcancamera.com
Re: [pinhole-discussion] Polaroid P/N film
Stom writes "I am thinking about using Polaroid 4x5 T-55 Positive/Negative film for pinhole photography. I would appreciate any thoughts about this particular film for this purpose. Thanks." Stom Ohno o...@maine.edu Type 55 is an excellent material, no doubt about it! Handling the negatives in the field takes some care. Here are a few ideas: You can use Sprint's Archive fixer remover full strength to remove the gel. This is a whole lot easier than mixing a sodium sulfite solution. Then place the negs in water until you get home. You can even dry the negs on a line in the car, then rewash them later. You cannot use ORBIT for this purpose. Haven't checked out any other fixer removers or wash aids yet. Also, if seeing the image is not important, you can remove each shot from the Polaroid back and wait until you get home to process them. What I'd like to know is how to get a darkroom print that matches the beautiful Polaroid print tones! Good hunting up there! Jim K www.paintcancamera.com
Re: [pinhole-discussion] cgp film
sounds like a lot of work... is this a scientific application? if so, maybe we all can put our minds together jim k www.paintcancamera.com - Original Message - From: "Gordon J. Holtslander" To: Sent: Wednesday, May 23, 2001 5:52 PM Subject: [pinhole-discussion] cgp film > Hi: > > I am looking for an inexpensive film large format film to use with some > large pinhole cameras. I initially contacted freestyle in LA, about their > inexpensive ortho film, but the shipping and brokerage costs to > canada make this a more expensive proposition. > > A friend of mine has found a local supply of Kodak CGP film. We can get a > whole bunch of film at a cheap rate, but we must buy $200.00 worth. Works > out to a few cents per 8x10. > > I want to know if anyone has used this successfully. We plan on using > dilute dektol or Dave Soemarko's LC1 low contrast developer to make > "normal continuous tone" negatives with this ortho film. > > Gord > - > Gordon J. Holtslander Dept. of Biology > hol...@duke.usask.ca 112 Science Place > http://duke.usask.ca/~holtsg University of Saskatchewan > Tel (306) 966-4433 Saskatoon, Saskatchewan > Fax (306) 966-4461 Canada S7N 5E2 > - > > > ___ > Pinhole-Discussion mailing list > Pinhole-Discussion@p at ??? > unsubscribe or change your account at > http://www.p at ???/discussion/ >
Re: [pinhole-discussion] recommendations for paper used for paper negatives
have also had success using soft paper developers and placing a VC printing filter over the pinhole Jim K - Original Message - From: "gina" > Thanks to Ed for the Oriental paper tip-big problem for me when shooting > using paper negatives on a sunny day is that they are always so > contrasty-almost no mid tones at all. >
Re: [pinhole-discussion] Tri X in Rodinal
Everyone should bookmark Jon Mided's awesome development chart: http://www.digitaltruth.com/photo/devchart.html - Original Message - From: "HypoBob" To: Sent: Wednesday, May 16, 2001 12:14 AM Subject: [pinhole-discussion] Tri X in Rodinal > I posted this question on the darkroom news group to no avail, but since it involves pinhole > photography I probably should have tried this august group first. > > I am making a pinhole camera to use 4x5 sheet film and thought that Tri X in Rodinal may be > interesting. However I can't find any data on this combination. Any suggestions?? > > Bob > #94 > > > ___ > Pinhole-Discussion mailing list > Pinhole-Discussion@p at ??? > unsubscribe or change your account at > http://www.p at ???/discussion/ >
Re: [pinhole-discussion] pinhole spammer rdh7...@cs.com
Ron contacted me to exchange links, but I can't do that with my 1 page site from Network Solutions... suggested he wait until I get a proper site before we proceed any further... all for the best, it seems. Jim K - Original Message - From: "Dieter Bublitz" To: Sent: Wednesday, May 16, 2001 1:39 AM Subject: Re: [pinhole-discussion] pinhole spammer rdh7...@cs.com > Gregg Kemp wrote: > > >Mr. Ron Hughes has taken his campaign to form a new pinhole photography web > >ring to a new high, by adding his spam to guest books at pinhole visions > >exhibits. I encourage everyone to boycott his web site and to NOT join his > > He, too, is searching the net for pinhole related websites and > inviting the site-owners by mail to his webring. > I know of two pinholers who received such a mail. And he is somewhat > successfull. There are now 11 sites in the ring ... > > Dieter > > > -- > Dieter's Lochkamera Seite: http://www.bingo-ev.de/~db106/ > 1. weltweiter Tag der Lochkamerafotografie: http://www.pinholeday.org > > ___ > Pinhole-Discussion mailing list > Pinhole-Discussion@p at ??? > unsubscribe or change your account at > http://www.p at ???/discussion/ >
