Re: [pinhole-discussion] Pinhole + Polaroid Back
You want a 545 version film holder for using contemporary 4x5 sheet films, check the Polaroid site (film data sheets at http://instantphoto.polaroid.com/service/filmdatasheets/index.html). I don't know whether a 545 will fit your camera; however, I've noticed that many camera stores carry the new 545i's, so possibly you could test drive one. Pam Christian Harkness wrote: > > Hi, > > I have a 4x5-pinhole camera that accepts 4x5 film holders. What kind of > Polaroid back can I use with it? I assume the regular 4x5 Polaroid back will > work fine. However, what is the 405 Film Pack Back/Holder, and will it work? > > Many thanks - for some reason Polaroid - for me - takes the cake when it > comes to being incomprehensible. > > chris > > ___ > Pinhole-Discussion mailing list > Pinhole-Discussion@p at ??? > unsubscribe or change your account at > http://www.???/discussion/ -- Pamela G. Niedermayer Pinehill Softworks Inc. 600 W. 28th St., Suite 103 Austin, TX 78705 512-236-1677 http://www.pinehill.com
Re: [pinhole-discussion] IR pinhole problems
I think the 4x5 plastic holders that have 5 bumps on them are suitable for IR. Pam heather hyatt wrote: > > --- hi jeff, > the normal holders that are made of plastic will not > work for IR, or so i am told i have never risked it. i > use metal ones. as for the exposure i push it about 2 > stops to make up for the filter. > ... -- Pamela G. Niedermayer Pinehill Softworks Inc. 600 W. 28th St., Suite 103 Austin, TX 78705 512-236-1677 http://www.pinehill.com
Re: [pinhole-discussion] new image upload
I like the chair a lot, beautiful blue there. I also like the other window shot. They seem a little contrasty (I know, strong backlights do that), a little dark. Is this a result of the scan? My screen? Or will you crop these? Have you played with making two exposures, combining them in Photoshop? Pam Tina Martin wrote: > > Hello all- > I have uploaded 5 hand coloured zone plate images to the list page under > "Tina". These are all 35 mm taken with a zone plate made by Guillermo, using > Delta 3200 film. All exposures hand held. > > http://www.p at ???/discussion/upload/images/ > > Hope you all are having a pleasant Easter weekend. > > Tina > > _ > Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. > > ___ > Pinhole-Discussion mailing list > Pinhole-Discussion@p at ??? > unsubscribe or change your account at > http://www.p at ???/discussion/ -- Pamela G. Niedermayer Pinehill Softworks Inc. 600 W. 28th St., Suite 103 Austin, TX 78705 512-236-1677 http://www.pinehill.com
Re: [pinhole-discussion] Pinhole Website
Also, Lonnie, we were playing around with colors and sizes; and the site hasn't yet been updated to reflect decisions. Pam Lonnie wrote: > > > -Original Message- > > From: photoe...@aol.com [mailto:photoe...@aol.com] > > Sent: Monday, April 16, 2001 12:32 PM > > To: pinhole-discussion@p at ??? > > Subject: [pinhole-discussion] Pinhole Website > > > > > > Hi, This is Lonnie. I looked at all the photographs on the > > website. It's > > great. > > > > What are all these different types of logos? Does the > > Pinhole group have > > more than one logo? Somebody explain this to me. > > > > Lonnie -- Pamela G. Niedermayer Pinehill Softworks Inc. 600 W. 28th St., Suite 103 Austin, TX 78705 512-236-1677 http://www.pinehill.com
Re: [pinhole-discussion] fiber optic pinhole
Here's the home page, click on "The Drinking Straw camera" to see the 6 images. http://www.andrebaumunk.de/e/index2.htm Pam Scott Sellers wrote: > > On Monday, April 09, 2001, Mike Vande Bunt wrote: > > > The Polaroid backs use what is called an "image plate" which is thousands of > > optical fibers fused together in a parallel arrangement. An image that is > > focused on one side of the plate is transmitted intact (minus a slight > > amount > > of brightness) to the other side of the plate. The technology was first > > developed for use in "night vision" scopes. So, yes, fiber optic "cable" IS > > used in 35mm Polaroid backs, but it's one solid piece fused ou of thousands > > of individual strands of glass. > > > > That said, a single optic fiber should be able to serve as a pinhole. > > Somewhere on the web are images (portraits IIRC) made using an array > of drinking straws that (I think) functions like the fiber optic > device you describe. The bundle of straws is sized to match the film > medium 1:1, and carefully laid up to keep the "pixels" in order. Each > straw gathers the light from one very narrow angle of view, and > transmits that light to it's own private bit of film. Unlike pinhole > (and lens photography), there is no flip-flopping of the image. Also, > the image isn't enlarged or reduced (unless the straws/fibers were to > get bigger or smaller from end to end). Interesting stuff to > conceive. > > -- > Scott Sellers > mailto:scottsell...@mindspring.com > > ___ > Pinhole-Discussion mailing list > Pinhole-Discussion@p at ??? > unsubscribe or change your account at > http://www.p at ???/discussion/ -- Pamela G. Niedermayer Pinehill Softworks Inc. 600 W. 28th St., Suite 103 Austin, TX 78705 512-236-1677 http://www.pinehill.com
Re: [pinhole-discussion] Shim Stock
I got this from Jay Bender (good company, good guy, very reasonable prices) included in a little pinhole kit (see http://www.benderphoto.com/pinfokit.htm) for $20. Also, www.pinholeresource.com sells predrilled pinholes, sets for $42. For the best price, just the brass stock, check Grizzly at: http://www.grizzlyindustrial.com/fcgi-bin/lookup.fcgi/products/lookup.cfg?q=sub_category&kw=Flat%20Stock%20-%20Brass Pam "Lee W. Potts" wrote: > > Hi Folks, > > Great list. > > I just started w/pinhole photography and I want to make a better > pinhole. For my first try I used aluminum from a pie plate. I'd > like to get brass shim stock, but all the auto supply places > around here have never heard of it. They look at me like I'm nuts > when I ask for it. Do they know it as something else? Is there a > better place to find it? > > Thanks, > Lee > > Lee W. Potts > l...@leepotts.com > www.LeePotts.com > > ___ > Pinhole-Discussion mailing list > Pinhole-Discussion@p at ??? > unsubscribe or change your account at > http://www.p at ???/discussion/ -- Pamela G. Niedermayer Pinehill Softworks Inc. 600 W. 28th St., Suite 103 Austin, TX 78705 512-236-1677 http://www.pinehill.com
Re: [pinhole-discussion] PC/MAC compatibility question
Jpeg's are viewable by both Macs and Windows PCs, regardless of which OS on which they were created. However, on burning the CD you have to worry about which system will be used to read it. Your CD burner software should know this and provide ISO 9660 File Format, maybe one or two others, I forget. Alternatively, it would be possible to put everything in html on the CD, complete with links, so you'd have a confined web site. Your confusion results from mixing up graphics formats with file formats. Pam Tina Martin wrote: > > Can anyone on the list tell me if j-peg images saved in pc format and burned > on a CD-Rom in a PC would be readable by a MAC cd-rom reader? I have to send > some images on CD and need to know if (#1)I have to re-save all the tiff > files as MAC format jpegs before burning or not, and (#2) if a CD burned in > a PC is readable by a MAC, and in which format. > > I know I could not read cd-roms of tiff files burned on a mac on my pc, but > could read zip files of tiffs created on my pc on a mac! > In other words, I'm totally confused. (as usual) Sorry this is a bit off > topic, but I'm sure someone on the list has the answer. I really don't want > to track down 80 or so tiff and psd files to re-do when I have already > J-pegd them once. > Tina ... -- Pamela G. Niedermayer Pinehill Softworks Inc. 600 W. 28th St., Suite 103 Austin, TX 78705 512-236-1677 http://www.pinehill.com
Re: [pinhole-discussion] Pinhole and lith printing - A natural complement?
I'd bet they are tricky; but Photoshop could come to your rescue at this point, now that you've got the idea down. Pam Guy Glorieux wrote: > > Thanks, Pam. > They're kind of tricky to make. These were my first experiments and the luck > of > the "innocent" was obviously at play. I find that, knowing more about the > camera > and the results, I tend to plan too much the sequence of overlaps and, as a > result, > a 'balanced' panorama gets more difficult to achieve. > > Cheers, > > Guy > > Pam Niedermayer wrote: > > > Guy, these "panoramas" are so cool, really like all three on that page. > > > > Pam > > ... -- Pamela G. Niedermayer Pinehill Softworks Inc. 600 W. 28th St., Suite 103 Austin, TX 78705 512-236-1677 http://www.pinehill.com
Re: [pinhole-discussion] Pinhole and lith printing - A natural complement?
Guy, these "panoramas" are so cool, really like all three on that page. Pam Guy Glorieux wrote: > > This is an ancient Kodak 2A folder converted into pinhole by removing all of > the front elements, including the bellows and replacing it by a plate with a > single pinhole. I feed it with 120 film. > The image frame inside is 2 1/2 x 4 1/4. Since I move the film only partway, > I get overlapping exposures on the full length of the film. This gives me > greater flexibility than having a multiple pinhole. Using a 6x9 negative > holder under the enlarger, I can then select any portion of the negative with > overlapping images and print it full frame. In some cases, I have contact > printed the whole negative and got an image that is 2 1/4 x 20 inches. > Check my web site gallery for these at > http://www3.sympatico.ca/guy.glorieux/pnhl4Ang.htm > ... -- Pamela G. Niedermayer Pinehill Softworks Inc. 600 W. 28th St., Suite 103 Austin, TX 78705 512-236-1677 http://www.pinehill.com
Re: [pinhole-discussion] Upper Midwest Pinhole Get-together.
If you're going to use it for pinhole, you may as well just get a new Holga or the like (Lomo if you want 35mm), they're only $15 at Freestyle (no financial interest). Pam norl...@aol.com wrote: > > Hi Donna > Not to worry. Many pinholers shoot Toy cameras as well. I can tell you the > little I know - the 151 was the original and shoots a somewhat smaller image > than the F. I am not sure about the 162. Prices have gone way up on mint > condition Dianas, driven by competition between photographers and collectors > for those few. The Diana was put out under many different names by the Great > Wall Plastics, and these "clones" have been cheaper but also are increasing > in price. Here are some links: > http://members.aol.com/hpargotohp/diana.html";>Diana Camera Types > http://www.sirius.com/~alc/site_html/frameset.html";>The Camera > Museum (Toy) > > The Toy Camera Web Ring would also be a good source of information. > http://www.webring.org/cgi-bin/webring?ring=toycamring&list";>Toy > Camera Ring > > Happy Trails, > Kurt Norlin > > ___ > Pinhole-Discussion mailing list > Pinhole-Discussion@p at ??? > unsubscribe or change your account at > http://www.p at ???/discussion/ -- Pamela G. Niedermayer Pinehill Softworks Inc. 600 W. 28th St., Suite 103 Austin, TX 78705 512-236-1677 http://www.pinehill.com
Re: [pinhole-discussion] Upper Midwest Pinhole Get-together.
That's wonderful, Tom. And it looks like a very interesting organization, love the education program, especially the mentoring. Pam Tom Miller wrote: > > Worldwide Pinhole Day is in the forum handouts already. We wouldn't > neglect it. The proximity of the informal forum to pinhole day is > akin the many delightful surprises of pinhole . We had the date set > with the pARTs Gallery a couple of weeks before the pinhole day idea > was proposed on this list on Valentine's Day. If you're curious about > pARTs, the URL is: www.partsphoto.org > > - Original Message - > From: "Pam Niedermayer" > To: > Sent: Friday, March 30, 2001 8:51 PM > Subject: Re: [pinhole-discussion] Upper Midwest Pinhole Get-together. > > > Would be cool if mention is made of Worldwide Pinhole Photography > Day, > > to occur 4/29. > > > > Pam > > > > William Erickson wrote: > > > > > > Tom Miller and I are organizing an informal pinhole forum at the > pARTS > > > Gallery at 711 W. Lake St,(just off Lyndale) Minneapolis, at 6:30 > p.m. > > > Thursday April 26. > > ___ > Pinhole-Discussion mailing list > Pinhole-Discussion@p at ??? > unsubscribe or change your account at > http://www.p at ???/discussion/ -- Pamela G. Niedermayer Pinehill Softworks Inc. 600 W. 28th St., Suite 103 Austin, TX 78705 512-236-1677 http://www.pinehill.com
Re: [pinhole-discussion] Upper Midwest Pinhole Get-together.
Would be cool if mention is made of Worldwide Pinhole Photography Day, to occur 4/29. Pam William Erickson wrote: > > Tom Miller and I are organizing an informal pinhole forum at the pARTS > Gallery at 711 W. Lake St,(just off Lyndale) Minneapolis, at 6:30 p.m. > Thursday April 26. The gallery is devoted to photographic arts and > graciously opened their space to us. Any of you who have corresponded with > Pinhole Resource will get a snail mail announcement as well, since Pinhole > Resource gracioulsy shared their upper midwest mailing list. We hope as many > of you who can make it will be there to share your work and meet your fellow > enthusiasts. > > ___ > Pinhole-Discussion mailing list > Pinhole-Discussion@p at ??? > unsubscribe or change your account at > http://www.p at ???/discussion/ -- Pamela G. Niedermayer Pinehill Softworks Inc. 600 W. 28th St., Suite 103 Austin, TX 78705 512-236-1677 http://www.pinehill.com
Re: [pinhole-discussion] A website pinhole discovery
Wow, thanks, love the Baths set. Pam Tina Martin wrote: > > Hello all! > I don't know if this incredible pinhole photographer has been mentioned on > this site before, but check out- > > http://photoarts.com/gallery/lousberg/ > > AMAZING! > > Tina -- Pamela G. Niedermayer Pinehill Softworks Inc. 600 W. 28th St., Suite 103 Austin, TX 78705 512-236-1677 http://www.pinehill.com
Re: [pinhole-discussion] lesson plan
Great link, thanks, Guy. Pam Guy Glorieux wrote: > > lisa styles wrote: > > > Hello > > > > I am a student teacher in Australia and I am trying to design a lesson plan > > on making and using pinhole cameras. I want the students to be able to make > > their cameras cheaply and quickly. Has anybody tried using black foam core? > > Hi Lisa, > > You may want to visit the following site of Martha Casanave from the > University > of California in Santa Cruz. http://www.stanford.edu/~cpatton/pinhole.html > > She offers a class in pinholin' and she has her class notes on the Web, > including building a 4x5 foamcore camera. The camera is designed to take 4x5 > film holders, but you could adjust the plans if your students use paper. > > I'm not sure about copyrights here. You may want to send her an email to > check > with her about using this material. > > Cheers, > > Guy -- Pamela G. Niedermayer Pinehill Softworks Inc. 600 W. 28th St., Suite 103 Austin, TX 78705 512-236-1677 http://www.pinehill.com
Re: [pinhole-discussion] Re:Help scanning pinhole photos
Thanks, George, I've used the skew before, not for this. I need more selecting skill. :) Pam George L Smyth wrote: > > --- Pam Niedermayer wrote: > > I don't know about pinhole, but when photographing with a regular lens > > the general rule is to photograph approximately 30% overlap because > > the lens introduces enough distortion that it would be impossible to > > line up the adjacent shots otherwise. > > This can be overcome by using the Skew command in Photoshop. It makes things > much easier than not having this ability (which has been the case when I've > done this in the darkroom). > > Cheers - > > george ... -- Pamela G. Niedermayer Pinehill Softworks Inc. 600 W. 28th St., Suite 103 Austin, TX 78705 512-236-1677 http://www.pinehill.com
Re: [pinhole-discussion] New images
Oops, never mind that last question, I must be brain dead this morning. Pam Pam Niedermayer wrote: > > I especially like the vase; although the vase itself seems a bit > underexposed, very little detail. This is strange, since you have a > fairly large white highlight. Were you shooting film or paper? > > Pam > > Vladimir Mikovic wrote: > > > > Hi all, > > > > I uploaded 3 images at, > > > > http://www.p at ???/discussion/upload/images/o1.jpg > > http://www.p at ???/discussion/upload/images/o2.jpg > > http://www.p at ???/discussion/upload/images/o3.jpg > > > > These were done with zero2000 on paper negativ (Fortespeed 3 B&W > > photographic paper). > > > > Comments welcome... > > > > Thanks, > > Best regards, > > Vladimir mailto:fo...@bitsyu.net -- Pamela G. Niedermayer Pinehill Softworks Inc. 600 W. 28th St., Suite 103 Austin, TX 78705 512-236-1677 http://www.pinehill.com
Re: [pinhole-discussion] New images
I especially like the vase; although the vase itself seems a bit underexposed, very little detail. This is strange, since you have a fairly large white highlight. Were you shooting film or paper? Pam Vladimir Mikovic wrote: > > Hi all, > > I uploaded 3 images at, > > http://www.p at ???/discussion/upload/images/o1.jpg > http://www.p at ???/discussion/upload/images/o2.jpg > http://www.p at ???/discussion/upload/images/o3.jpg > > These were done with zero2000 on paper negativ (Fortespeed 3 B&W > photographic paper). > > Comments welcome... > > Thanks, > Best regards, > Vladimir mailto:fo...@bitsyu.net -- Pamela G. Niedermayer Pinehill Softworks Inc. 600 W. 28th St., Suite 103 Austin, TX 78705 512-236-1677 http://www.pinehill.com
Re: [pinhole-discussion] Re:Help scanning pinhole photos
I don't know about pinhole, but when photographing with a regular lens the general rule is to photograph approximately 30% overlap because the lens introduces enough distortion that it would be impossible to line up the adjacent shots otherwise. Pam Guy Glorieux wrote: > > b2myo...@aol.com wrote: > > > > > make sure the two images line up. While in the move tool, you can use the > > arrow keys to tweak it EXACTLY into place. > > One of the difficult part is to make sure that the two sections of the image > that > you scan are lined up in exactly the same way, so that when you bring them > together on your 11x14 canvas, they actualy match perfectly. I find that I > need > a good overlap also. I can then select better where I cut the excess image > on my > top layer before "flattening" the two layers into one image. I try to cut in > the > dark areas of the print, where its easier to match the tones. > > Good luck. Hope to see your print soon. > > Guy > > ___ > Pinhole-Discussion mailing list > Pinhole-Discussion@p at ??? > unsubscribe or change your account at > http://www.p at ???/discussion/ -- Pamela G. Niedermayer Pinehill Softworks Inc. 600 W. 28th St., Suite 103 Austin, TX 78705 512-236-1677 http://www.pinehill.com
Re: [pinhole-discussion] New zone plate image
Very nice, Colin, thanks. Pam Colin Talcroft wrote: > ... > Was making some lemon juice and soda water early this > morning when the sun came streaming through the > kitchen window. Got out a camera and created a > photograph, if anyone cares to have a look. It's at > > http://www.sonic.net/~talcroft/PinholeSite/Kifeandlemon.html >... The zone plate has a four-inch focal > length. I was rather pleased with this. My first zone > plate success in a long time. Comments welcome. >... -- Pamela G. Niedermayer Pinehill Softworks Inc. 600 W. 28th St., Suite 103 Austin, TX 78705 512-236-1677 http://www.pinehill.com
Re: [pinhole-discussion] Zero2000 at Calumet
Thanks, Brian, very interesting. Seems like it would be pretty easy to make a bar the right size with three tripod mounts (one for the tripod) to solve the alignment problem. Pam Brian Reynolds wrote: > > [This is being sent a second time. There might have been something > wrong with the list the first time.] > > Pam Niedermayer wrote: > > Brian Reynolds wrote: > > > ...I may abandon thoughts of a monolithic stereo pinhole camera > > > and get two of the Zero2000s. I've already done something similar > > > with a pair of Lubitels, but there are several inconveniences with > > > using two separate cameras instead of a monolithic camera. > > > > Such as? > > > > 1) No flash sync. Not much of a problem for a pinhole stereo camera, >but flash sync is very useful for a lens stereo camera. ... > 2) No shutter sync. ... > > 3) No control sync. ... > > 4) Alignment is a problem. You need to keep both cameras parallel to >each other. Most commercially available brackets do not have any >method of maintaining camera alignment. There are custom brackets >for sale within the stereo community, but they are for pairing >smaller 35mm cameras. > > Separate cameras do have one advantage. With separate cameras you can > easily vary the stereo base (distance between cameras). This is very > useful if you want to shoot landscapes with depth. Of course this > depth is exaggerated, but it works nicely if not overdone. > -- Pamela G. Niedermayer Pinehill Softworks Inc. 600 W. 28th St., Suite 103 Austin, TX 78705 512-236-1677 http://www.pinehill.com
Re: [pinhole-discussion] logo has been chosen
Thank you, Thomas (and Leezy); but a large part of the attraction is George Smyth's photo. Pam Thomas Harvey wrote: > ... > I missed the voting somehow, but when I did try to vote this morning, > that was my choice. Good voting out there! A nice design, Pam. > > Tom -- Pamela G. Niedermayer Pinehill Softworks Inc. 600 W. 28th St., Suite 103 Austin, TX 78705 512-236-1677 http://www.pinehill.com
Re: [pinhole-discussion] Zero2000 at Calumet
Such as? Brian Reynolds wrote: > ...I may > abandon thoughts of a monolithic stereo pinhole camera and get two of > the Zero2000s. I've already done something similar with a pair of > Lubitels, but there are several inconveniences with using two separate > cameras instead of a monolithic camera. > ... -- Pamela G. Niedermayer Pinehill Softworks Inc. 600 W. 28th St., Suite 103 Austin, TX 78705 512-236-1677 http://www.pinehill.com
Re: [pinhole-discussion] using digital camera
I think this is evidenced in scanning using CCD's, too. As nearly as I can tell, CMOS somehow avoids this problem. Pam echinis...@gmx.de wrote: > > > Why do you suppose that is? > > > > Pam > > > > Michael Keller wrote: > > >...With digital, long exposures can lead to increased > > > noise in the shadows. > > The CCD chips tend to give a signal not only when they are exposed to light > but also to temperature. This leads to ´thermal noise´, that can be seen best > in the dark parts of the image and that accumulates over time. > > Astronomers, who have kind of an addiction to long time exposures of dark > skies, cool down their CCD cameras to minimize that noise. > > servus > > martin adler -- Pamela G. Niedermayer Pinehill Softworks Inc. 600 W. 28th St., Suite 103 Austin, TX 78705 512-236-1677 http://www.pinehill.com
Re: [pinhole-discussion] using digital camera
Why do you suppose that is? Pam Michael Keller wrote: > > I've used a zone plate on a Nikon D1. Not real thrilled with my results, but > I think it's just me. With digital, long exposures can lead to increased > noise in the shadows. > > ___ > Pinhole-Discussion mailing list > Pinhole-Discussion@p at ??? > unsubscribe or change your account at > http://www.p at ???/discussion/ -- Pamela G. Niedermayer Pinehill Softworks Inc. 600 W. 28th St., Suite 103 Austin, TX 78705 512-236-1677 http://www.pinehill.com
Re: [pinhole-discussion] Re: using digital camera
There are 8,402 listings in the ebay digital camera area. Granted, not every single listing is a camera, there are some paper and other supplies in there; but from that list I'd bet most anyone could do a lot better than Barbie's resolution for less money, or at least not much more. But that's today, not a couple of years ago. Pam Gregg Kemp wrote: > > > -Original Message- > > From: Pam Niedermayer [mailto:pam_p...@cape.com] > > Thanks, Gregg, interesting that you had to place the pinhole on the > > ccd end of the tubelette. The Barbie cam reminded me I have a couple > > of old Connectix tethered (to the computer) cameras that may be better > > for the first experiments. > > Yeah, I wanted to do mine in the true pinhole spirit - without spending any > money. But, after months of never seeing a discarded digital camera in the > thrift shops, I could wait no longer and plopped down my money. I think the > Connectix sounds like a good one to play around with. > > - Gregg >... -- Pamela G. Niedermayer Pinehill Softworks Inc. 600 W. 28th St., Suite 103 Austin, TX 78705 512-236-1677 http://www.pinehill.com
Re: [pinhole-discussion] using digital camera
Thanks, Andy; but with the quickcams I don't need any external power supply. The resolution on them is the same, 640x480, but good enough to play with for a bit. Pam Andy Schmitt wrote: > > I've got one or 2 of the cheap "video conferencing" cameras & the resolution > really stinks... 640x480 > Let me know what voltage(s) you need for a PS. I have a bunch of different > ones.. > andy > ... -- Pamela G. Niedermayer Pinehill Softworks Inc. 600 W. 28th St., Suite 103 Austin, TX 78705 512-236-1677 http://www.pinehill.com
Re: [pinhole-discussion] Re: using digital camera
Will do, assuming I can find the box containing the quick cams (have b&w and color versions), may have something to tell you next week. Pam Dan Gerber wrote: > > No, I haven't done anything yet. (just bought a 118 year old house, can you > say "projects"?;-) I'm still looking at getting an Agfa ephoto smile, and > taking it apart. I've spotted some that can be had very inexpensively. I've > also been eyeing an old connectix quick cam that I have here in my office, > but it doesn't really "belong" to me! Please let me know if you make any > discoveries on this subject. > > Thanks, > Dan >... -- Pamela G. Niedermayer Pinehill Softworks Inc. 600 W. 28th St., Suite 103 Austin, TX 78705 512-236-1677 http://www.pinehill.com
Re: [pinhole-discussion] using digital camera
I see, thanks. I've got a couple of old tethered digicams that I can try this with before attacking the 950. Pam echinis...@gmx.de wrote: > > > Yes, the digital cameras with interchangeable lenses are quite > > expensive (cheapest is a 1.4 mp Olympus at $1500 list); but ccd video > > cameras aren't exactly cheap either. > > well, I had in mind the CCD camera modules that are sold as door spy etc .. > you need to look for a (cheap) power supply and cabling but the modules > themselves start at $25 (b/w) or $55 (color), at least in Germany. > > oops, I forgot, you might need a grabber card as well ... > > servus > > martin adler > -- Pamela G. Niedermayer Pinehill Softworks Inc. 600 W. 28th St., Suite 103 Austin, TX 78705 512-236-1677 http://www.pinehill.com
Re: [pinhole-discussion] Re: using digital camera
Thanks, Gregg, interesting that you had to place the pinhole on the ccd end of the tubelette. The Barbie cam reminded me I have a couple of old Connectix tethered (to the computer) cameras that may be better for the first experiments. Pam Gregg Kemp wrote: > > I wasn't sure it was safe to mention the "Barbie" cam again. The photos I > made a couple of years ago are at: > > http://www.p at ???/pinholer/exhibits/ > > Click on the Gregg Kemp link. > > The story behind them is in the archive somewhere. If anyone is > interested, I'll track it down - or just search for "barbie". > > Gregg > ... -- Pamela G. Niedermayer Pinehill Softworks Inc. 600 W. 28th St., Suite 103 Austin, TX 78705 512-236-1677 http://www.pinehill.com
Re: [pinhole-discussion] Re: using digital camera
Thanks, Dan. Did you end up doing anything with a digicam, surveilance, Agfa, or whatever? Pam Dan Gerber wrote: > > Pam, > > You may want to talk to Gregg Kemp, he has done some pinhole work with a > "barbie" digital camera. ;-) > > -Dan > ... -- Pamela G. Niedermayer Pinehill Softworks Inc. 600 W. 28th St., Suite 103 Austin, TX 78705 512-236-1677 http://www.pinehill.com
Re: [pinhole-discussion] Re: using digital camera
Thanks, Zernike, very interesting photos. Too bad his camera is so expensive (Canon D30, $3000 or so, 3 mp). Have you seen a cheap digital in Hong Kong that has manual exposure overrides and a removeable lens? Pam Zernike Au wrote: > > Pam Wrote: > > Has anyone tried taking pinhole photos using a digital camera? > > > > Thanks, > > Pam > > Hi Pam, David Tefft is exhibiting his digital pinhole photo at: > http://www.zeroimage.com/gallerya/david_tefft/mask1.html > > also every special images at > http://www.zeroimage.com/gallerya/david_tefft/cosmos3.html > Cool! Don't miss it. > > Zernike -- Pamela G. Niedermayer Pinehill Softworks Inc. 600 W. 28th St., Suite 103 Austin, TX 78705 512-236-1677 http://www.pinehill.com
Re: [pinhole-discussion] using digital camera
Yes, the digital cameras with interchangeable lenses are quite expensive (cheapest is a 1.4 mp Olympus at $1500 list); but ccd video cameras aren't exactly cheap either. I'm sort of looking for a cheap digicam that I wouldn't mind bashing a bit to remove the lens, but it looks like those will be quite limited in exposure range (things like the flash kicking in automatically). I'm also about ready to delve into my Nikon 950, see if there's a good way to remove the lens without wrecking the camera. I think the first thing I'll try is a pinhole over the regular lens, just to see if it can handle the exposure time. Pam > > > Has anyone tried taking pinhole photos using a digital camera? > > > > Hi Pam, > > I think it would be more promising to use a CCD video cam with an > exchangeable lens. > > Digital cameras with removable lens systems might be rather expensive (there > are a couple of new professinal devices based on 35mm camera bodies). > > servus > > martin adler > -- Pamela G. Niedermayer Pinehill Softworks Inc. 600 W. 28th St., Suite 103 Austin, TX 78705 512-236-1677 http://www.pinehill.com
Re: [pinhole-discussion] Scope Works site
Sure is nice to "meet" the Omniscope maker, very cool looking camera. I also think the telescoping tube approach in your 5x7's is quite ingenious, one of those elegant solutions that seems obvious after the fact. Pam "Sneebo T. Waltham" wrote: > > I've been working on a website that has information > about some of the cameras I've built as well as a good > number of images. Please check it out: > > www.abelsonscopeworks.com ... -- Pamela G. Niedermayer Pinehill Softworks Inc. 600 W. 28th St., Suite 103 Austin, TX 78705 512-236-1677 http://www.pinehill.com
Re: [pinhole-discussion] macro pinhole images?
Try http://homepages.uni-tuebingen.de/martin.adler/pinhole/pinhole.html Beate Knappe wrote: > > > > > http://homepages.uni-tuebingen.de/martin.adler/pinhole.html > sorry, but this link dos not work > > Beate > > ___ > Pinhole-Discussion mailing list > Pinhole-Discussion@p at ??? > unsubscribe or change your account at > http://www.p at ???/discussion/ -- Pamela G. Niedermayer Pinehill Softworks Inc. 600 W. 28th St., Suite 103 Austin, TX 78705 512-236-1677 http://www.pinehill.com
Re: [pinhole-discussion] science fair
Sorry, forgot to paste the url: http://www.nh.ultranet.com/~stewoody/ Pam Niedermayer wrote: > > Here's a full tutorial on making and using. Be sure and keep us in > mind on April 29, World Wide Pinhole Photography Day when pinholers > around the world will be taking photos, eventually posting them to the > Pinhole Visions web site. > > Enjoy, > Pam > > oyv...@cs.com wrote: > > > > my son is interested in making a pinhole camera for his science fair > > project. > > i understand you can make a very simple one from a shoe box. he is 9 years > > old. > > can you give us some very simple instructions for a rudimentary pinhole > > camera? > > > > thank you for your help. > > v and j -- Pamela G. Niedermayer Pinehill Softworks Inc. 600 W. 28th St., Suite 103 Austin, TX 78705 512-236-1677 http://www.pinehill.com
Re: [pinhole-discussion] science fair
Here's a full tutorial on making and using. Be sure and keep us in mind on April 29, World Wide Pinhole Photography Day when pinholers around the world will be taking photos, eventually posting them to the Pinhole Visions web site. Enjoy, Pam oyv...@cs.com wrote: > > my son is interested in making a pinhole camera for his science fair project. > i understand you can make a very simple one from a shoe box. he is 9 years > old. > can you give us some very simple instructions for a rudimentary pinhole > camera? > > thank you for your help. > v and j ... -- Pamela G. Niedermayer Pinehill Softworks Inc. 600 W. 28th St., Suite 103 Austin, TX 78705 512-236-1677 http://www.pinehill.com
[pinhole-discussion] using digital camera
Has anyone tried taking pinhole photos using a digital camera? Thanks, Pam -- Pamela G. Niedermayer Pinehill Softworks Inc. 600 W. 28th St., Suite 103 Austin, TX 78705 512-236-1677 http://www.pinehill.com
Re: [pinhole-discussion] World Wide Pinhole Photography Day
Welcome, Christophe, I'll add you to our volunteer database-in-progress. Pam christophe.f...@ch-gonesse.fr wrote: > > Hi, > My name is Christophe Frot and I'm a new member of the list. > I live near Paris, France, so, excuse me for my poor english language :-). > I'm really excited about the first World Wide Pinhole Photography Day! I > practiced PH photography for 4 years and I belong to a french alt process > association (HelioS, http://www.foto-sapiens.com/helios , my french > pinhole technical page is http://www.foto-sapiens.com/helios/stenope.html). > I will send you images for the WWPPD. I can help you for the french > translation of your web site and for the promotion of the event. > best regards > Christophe > http://www.foto-sapiens.com/helios > > ___ > Pinhole-Discussion mailing list > Pinhole-Discussion@p at ??? > unsubscribe or change your account at > http://www.p at ???/discussion/ -- Pamela G. Niedermayer Pinehill Softworks Inc. 600 W. 28th St., Suite 103 Austin, TX 78705 512-236-1677 http://www.pinehill.com
Re: [pinhole-discussion] Press Release review
Thanks, Scott, the steering committee have just started trying to work out these precise issues within the last couple of days; so your comments are timely and will be taken into consideration. Pam Scott Sellers wrote: > > Hello Pam, all; > > On Friday, March 02, 2001, Pam Niedermayer wrote: > > Many thanks to those of you who've taken the time to review the press > > release and send corrections and suggestions. We have moved the > > working copy to http://www.p at ???/WPD/org/pr.html. So please > > check up on us, make sure we applied the mods properly. Please email > > Diana Bloomfield (now in charge of the press release and other online > > docs) or me off list if you have more suggestions. > > I question the central place given in the release to the concept of > "sponsorship". If an explanation for the genesis of the event is > required, I prefer Guy's original "grass roots / internet" language, > with perhaps a statement like "WPPD is supported by X, Y, and Z > organizations" towards the end of the release. > > I also find the primacy given to "laser cut" pinholes a little > incongruous with my idea of the event. Just my $.02, but I'd prefer > an editorial slant less cognizant of various interests (worthy though > they may be), and more focused on the simplicity, easy availability, > and wonder of pinhole photography. > > -- > Scott Sellers > mailto:scottsell...@mindspring.com > > ___ > Pinhole-Discussion mailing list > Pinhole-Discussion@p at ??? > unsubscribe or change your account at > http://www.p at ???/discussion/ -- Pamela G. Niedermayer Pinehill Softworks Inc. 600 W. 28th St., Suite 103 Austin, TX 78705 512-236-1677 http://www.pinehill.com
Re: Please vote ! was Re: [pinhole-discussion] the Pinhole Polls are open...
:) Pam Mike Vande Bunt wrote: > > Too late I realized that we missed out on listing > > "Planetary Lensless Imaging Rotation" > > as one of the options. Fortunately, nearly every > other permutation was present. > > ;-) > > Mike Vande Bunt > > ___ > Pinhole-Discussion mailing list > Pinhole-Discussion@p at ??? > unsubscribe or change your account at > http://www.p at ???/discussion/ -- Pamela G. Niedermayer Pinehill Softworks Inc. 600 W. 28th St., Suite 103 Austin, TX 78705 512-236-1677 http://www.pinehill.com
[pinhole-discussion] Press Release review
Many thanks to those of you who've taken the time to review the press release and send corrections and suggestions. We have moved the working copy to http://www.p at ???/WPD/org/pr.html. So please check up on us, make sure we applied the mods properly. Please email Diana Bloomfield (now in charge of the press release and other online docs) or me off list if you have more suggestions. Thanks, Pam -- Pamela G. Niedermayer Pinehill Softworks Inc. 600 W. 28th St., Suite 103 Austin, TX 78705 512-236-1677 http://www.pinehill.com
Re: [pinhole-discussion] WPPD Steering Committee more info
I'm about ready to put you into our volunteer press core database. Please let me know if it turns out you can't translate and/or distribute. Pam Vladimir Mikovic wrote: > > Hello Guy, > hello all, > > Here in Belgrade I have some contacts with people from local papers > and TV. I plan to have the complete promotion material on WWPD > translated. Then I will offer it to editors, so that it can be > published on time for Pinhole Day. > > Also there is a possibility for me to write an article on pinhole > photography which would be published together with WWPD promotion > material... > > For WWPD day (29th April maybe) I plan to finish design of pinhole > camera. Camera has metal (aluminum) body and uses roll 120 film > (format 6x7cm). > > PS: There is a lot of work to do, hopefully, I do at least some > of it. > > Monday, February 26, 2001, 4:29:34 AM, you wrote: > > GG> Great point you've made about having one or more women on the committee, > GG> Pam. Just back from a day out of home and submerged with mail, but I'll > GG> catch up. > GG> It seems your point about "members from around the world" is great also > and > GG> we'd like to hear from list members from Latin America and from > GG> Australia/New Zealand region. Where are you guys? How can we get you > GG> involved? > > GG> Guy > > -- > Best regards from Belgrade > > Vladimir, > list member from Europe > mailto:fo...@bitsyu.net > > ___ > Pinhole-Discussion mailing list > Pinhole-Discussion@p at ??? > unsubscribe or change your account at > http://www.p at ???/discussion/ -- Pamela G. Niedermayer Pinehill Softworks Inc. 600 W. 28th St., Suite 103 Austin, TX 78705 512-236-1677 http://www.pinehill.com
Re: [pinhole-discussion] the Pinhole Polls are open...
Same response. :) Pam Katharine Thayer wrote: > > Pam Niedermayer wrote: > > > > In spite of Florida's precedent, we probably should consider 4/29 and > > the last Sunday in April to be a vote for the same thing. :) > > > > Pam > > > > Yes, this year it would be, but I suppose I thought we were voting for > posterity, in which case the last Sunday in April would be a more > generic choice. > > ___ > Pinhole-Discussion mailing list > Pinhole-Discussion@p at ??? > unsubscribe or change your account at > http://www.p at ???/discussion/ -- Pamela G. Niedermayer Pinehill Softworks Inc. 600 W. 28th St., Suite 103 Austin, TX 78705 512-236-1677 http://www.pinehill.com
Re: [pinhole-discussion] the Pinhole Polls are open...
Simon, please visit http://www.p at ???/discussion/polls.php to fill out your ballot. Pam Simon Cygielski wrote: > > If they're still open, I vote for last Sunday in April. > > ___ > Pinhole-Discussion mailing list > Pinhole-Discussion@p at ??? > unsubscribe or change your account at > http://www.p at ???/discussion/ -- Pamela G. Niedermayer Pinehill Softworks Inc. 600 W. 28th St., Suite 103 Austin, TX 78705 512-236-1677 http://www.pinehill.com
[pinhole-discussion] Call for volunteers
First, the WWPPD press release is now close to being completed; and we'd like you to read it at: http://www3.sympatico.ca/guy.glorieux/Press.htm Any comments should be directed off list (only because some list members may not like to receive piles of email on the topic, we're not trying to shroud anything in secrecy) to Guy Glorieux , Diana Bloomfield , Gregg Kemp , or me . This press release is just the first item in our eventual press kit to be delivered. We will rely heavily on the web site to provide detailed information, rely on the press kit to arouse interest, to get the press to visit the site. However, there is no way that this press kit will be distributed around the world without your help. The approach we're taking is one of local initiative that combines into a whole. So we need your help in your local area, however you define that, to distribute the press kit. We also need help translating the contents into your preferred language. We'd like your comments about what types of things should be in the press kit for your locality. So, please volunteer today by emailing me off list with your name, locality, and any ideas you may have about publicizing this event. Pam -- Pamela G. Niedermayer Pinehill Softworks Inc. 600 W. 28th St., Suite 103 Austin, TX 78705 512-236-1677 http://www.pinehill.com
Re: [pinhole-discussion] the Pinhole Polls are open...
In spite of Florida's precedent, we probably should consider 4/29 and the last Sunday in April to be a vote for the same thing. :) Pam Katharine Thayer wrote: > > Thomas Harvey wrote: > > > > > > > > Nice work, Gregg! > > > > But did I vote for "world wide" or "worldwide"? We might still need > > to call in the Miami Herald for clarification. > > > > Tom > > > > I had a similar problem -- I voted for April 29, not reading all the > other options carefully (I know, it's my own darn fault) and then when > the poll results popped up I saw that "last Sunday in April" was an > option which I noticed and wished I'd chosen. It just proves again, I > guess, that voting is too important a responsibility to be entrusted to > mere humans. > Katharine Thayer -- Pamela G. Niedermayer Pinehill Softworks Inc. 600 W. 28th St., Suite 103 Austin, TX 78705 512-236-1677 http://www.pinehill.com
Re: [pinhole-discussion] couple of pictures
I think I've seen this, but can't remember where. Pam "G.Penate" wrote: > ... there is a picture > of a guy that made a spherical film plate dug in the ground and B&W paper > placed to conform the shape of the hole. > > Guillermo > > ___ > Pinhole-Discussion mailing list > Pinhole-Discussion@p at ??? > unsubscribe or change your account at > http://www.p at ???/discussion/ -- Pamela G. Niedermayer Pinehill Softworks Inc. 600 W. 28th St., Suite 103 Austin, TX 78705 512-236-1677 http://www.pinehill.com
Re: [pinhole-discussion] couple of pictures
Think of cutting out a format sized segment from a sphere, just have to place supports so the film/paper is forced to lay on the sphere's inside. However, the wheel of cheese approach is good, too, as is a horizontal cylinder. Pam William Erickson wrote: > > I've daydreamed a lot about shpeircal film planes but I haven't figured out > how to do it. You can do one curved in one dimension, though. The radius of > the curve is the 'focal length" of the aperture. It makes the camera look > like half a wheel of cheese. In the ones I've made like this there is > minimal distortion at the edges and its equally sharp all the way around. > - Original Message - > From: Pam Niedermayer > To: > Sent: Tuesday, February 27, 2001 2:51 PM > Subject: Re: [pinhole-discussion] couple of pictures > > > How spherical would the film plane have to be to get to sharp edges? > > Let's say I'm building an 8x10 pinhole camera (which I am), and wanted > > to build a special curved film holder. Should the spere be around the > > distance from pinhole to film center, the pinhole being the center of > > the sphere? > > > > Pam > > > > William Erickson wrote: > > > > > > I'd guess that edge softness is a product of the fact that the plane of > > > optimal sharpness is a hemisphere centered aroiund the hole, and the > film > > > plane is flat, transecting the optimal image best at the center, or if > > > rounded, not rounded at the same radius. > > > - Original Message - > > > From: Simon Cygielski > > > To: > > > Sent: Tuesday, February 27, 2001 3:56 AM > > > Subject: [pinhole-discussion] couple of pictures > > > > > > > Hi all, > > > > I've uploaded a couple of my first efforts with my 6x17 cm panoramic > > > > pinhole camera. They're up at > > > > > > > > http://www.p at ???/discussion/upload/images/path1.jpg and > > > > http://www.p at ???/discussion/upload/images/phones2.jpg > > > > > > > > I built the camera out of a Holga using bookboard to expand it to its > > > > present size. "Focal" length is 7.5 cm. Any comments would be > > > > appreciated. > > > > I also have a question: is the loss of sharpness on the far edges > > > > inevitable, or can it be corrected somehow? perhaps thinner stock? > This > > > > hole was made (fairly carefully) out of a Coke can and sized according > > > > to some pinhole formula (though I forget which one), so it should be > > > > somewhere in the ballpark size-wise. > > > > Thanks, > > > > Simon > > > > > > > > > > > > ___ > > > > Pinhole-Discussion mailing list > > > > Pinhole-Discussion@p at ??? > > > > unsubscribe or change your account at > > > > http://www.p at ???/discussion/ > > > > > > > > > > ___ > > > Pinhole-Discussion mailing list > > > Pinhole-Discussion@p at ??? > > > unsubscribe or change your account at > > > http://www.p at ???/discussion/ > > > > -- > > Pamela G. Niedermayer > > Pinehill Softworks Inc. > > 600 W. 28th St., Suite 103 > > Austin, TX 78705 > > 512-236-1677 > > http://www.pinehill.com > > > > ___ > > Pinhole-Discussion mailing list > > Pinhole-Discussion@p at ??? > > unsubscribe or change your account at > > http://www.p at ???/discussion/ > > > > ___ > Pinhole-Discussion mailing list > Pinhole-Discussion@p at ??? > unsubscribe or change your account at > http://www.p at ???/discussion/ -- Pamela G. Niedermayer Pinehill Softworks Inc. 600 W. 28th St., Suite 103 Austin, TX 78705 512-236-1677 http://www.pinehill.com
Re: [pinhole-discussion] couple of pictures
Thanks, George, that's what I was trying to confirm. I should have said something more like the distance from pinhole to film plane would be the radius of the sphere. This means the spherically shaped film holder would have to be different for each focal length. Ouch. :) Pam George L Smyth wrote: > > --- Pam Niedermayer wrote: > > How spherical would the film plane have to be to get to sharp edges? > > Let's say I'm building an 8x10 pinhole camera (which I am), and wanted > > to build a special curved film holder. Should the spere be around the > > distance from pinhole to film center, the pinhole being the center of > > the sphere? > > Imagine tying a string on the pinhole, then swiping it along the film plane. > That is the curvature you want to use if you want to distort the film plane so > that there is a constant "focal length." > > Cheers - > > george -- Pamela G. Niedermayer Pinehill Softworks Inc. 600 W. 28th St., Suite 103 Austin, TX 78705 512-236-1677 http://www.pinehill.com
Re: [pinhole-discussion] couple of pictures
How spherical would the film plane have to be to get to sharp edges? Let's say I'm building an 8x10 pinhole camera (which I am), and wanted to build a special curved film holder. Should the spere be around the distance from pinhole to film center, the pinhole being the center of the sphere? Pam William Erickson wrote: > > I'd guess that edge softness is a product of the fact that the plane of > optimal sharpness is a hemisphere centered aroiund the hole, and the film > plane is flat, transecting the optimal image best at the center, or if > rounded, not rounded at the same radius. > - Original Message - > From: Simon Cygielski > To: > Sent: Tuesday, February 27, 2001 3:56 AM > Subject: [pinhole-discussion] couple of pictures > > > Hi all, > > I've uploaded a couple of my first efforts with my 6x17 cm panoramic > > pinhole camera. They're up at > > > > http://www.p at ???/discussion/upload/images/path1.jpg and > > http://www.p at ???/discussion/upload/images/phones2.jpg > > > > I built the camera out of a Holga using bookboard to expand it to its > > present size. "Focal" length is 7.5 cm. Any comments would be > > appreciated. > > I also have a question: is the loss of sharpness on the far edges > > inevitable, or can it be corrected somehow? perhaps thinner stock? This > > hole was made (fairly carefully) out of a Coke can and sized according > > to some pinhole formula (though I forget which one), so it should be > > somewhere in the ballpark size-wise. > > Thanks, > > Simon > > > > > > ___ > > Pinhole-Discussion mailing list > > Pinhole-Discussion@p at ??? > > unsubscribe or change your account at > > http://www.p at ???/discussion/ > > > > ___ > Pinhole-Discussion mailing list > Pinhole-Discussion@p at ??? > unsubscribe or change your account at > http://www.p at ???/discussion/ -- Pamela G. Niedermayer Pinehill Softworks Inc. 600 W. 28th St., Suite 103 Austin, TX 78705 512-236-1677 http://www.pinehill.com
Re: [pinhole-discussion] WPPD Steering Committee more info
That's wonderful, Vladimir. Diana Bloomfield and I are working with Guy to produce a marketing/publicity plan. Since there's no way we can actually do all the publicity ourselves, we'd planned to put together a package that could be used by anyone to promote the day wherever they live. I'd love to hear some ideas about what you'd need to make this easier for you, what types of information. Pam Vladimir Mikovic wrote: > > Hello Guy, > hello all, > > Here in Belgrade I have some contacts with people from local papers > and TV. I plan to have the complete promotion material on WWPD > translated. Then I will offer it to editors, so that it can be > published on time for Pinhole Day. > > Also there is a possibility for me to write an article on pinhole > photography which would be published together with WWPD promotion > material... > > For WWPD day (29th April maybe) I plan to finish design of pinhole > camera. Camera has metal (aluminum) body and uses roll 120 film > (format 6x7cm). > > PS: There is a lot of work to do, hopefully, I do at least some > of it. > > Monday, February 26, 2001, 4:29:34 AM, you wrote: > > GG> Great point you've made about having one or more women on the committee, > GG> Pam. Just back from a day out of home and submerged with mail, but I'll > GG> catch up. > GG> It seems your point about "members from around the world" is great also > and > GG> we'd like to hear from list members from Latin America and from > GG> Australia/New Zealand region. Where are you guys? How can we get you > GG> involved? > > GG> Guy > > -- > Best regards from Belgrade > > Vladimir, > list member from Europe > mailto:fo...@bitsyu.net > > ___ > Pinhole-Discussion mailing list > Pinhole-Discussion@p at ??? > unsubscribe or change your account at > http://www.p at ???/discussion/ -- Pamela G. Niedermayer Pinehill Softworks Inc. 600 W. 28th St., Suite 103 Austin, TX 78705 512-236-1677 http://www.pinehill.com
Re: [pinhole-discussion] paper negatives and warm tone developer
Just in case there are some people new to darkroom work, you have to use variable contrast papers for this to work. Pam b2myo...@aol.com wrote: > > In a message dated 2/27/01 11:15:26 AM, aschm...@warwick.net writes: > > << a solarized PH Negative... >> > > and a contact print of a solarization of a pinhole neg...with great mackie > lines...using a #5 filter...or a #0 filter for a different effector split > filter printing...#5, the #0. > > Here are instructions for split filter printing: > ... -- Pamela G. Niedermayer Pinehill Softworks Inc. 600 W. 28th St., Suite 103 Austin, TX 78705 512-236-1677 http://www.pinehill.com
Re: [pinhole-discussion] the Pinhole Polls are open...
Oh, you probably have seen them, they're the little bits, usually circular or oval, partially cutout, that you punch out of card stock. Everyone here knows about them because of the Florida presidential voting debacle, several counties used card stock for the ballots, you were supposed to punch out the chad that designated your choice. Pam Guy Glorieux wrote: > > What on earth is a "chad", whether dimpled, hanging or pregant? > Never seen one in my life... > Guy > > "G.Penate" wrote: > > > - Original Message - > > From: "Gregg Kemp" > > > > > Well, I guess I was dead wrong about the need for discussion. > > Its been as > > > quiet at the polls as it has on the list today. Speaking of > > polling, has > > > anyone ever tried making a pinhole image with a dimpled chad? > > or perhaps > > a > > > hanging chad would work better? > > > > Does it matter how many corners is it hanging from? As for the > > real > > technical question: how do you find out the f/stop of a hanging > > chad. > > > > BTW, I tried with a pregnant chad, but got no image, I guess I > > should have > > known! > > > > Guillermo > > -- Pamela G. Niedermayer Pinehill Softworks Inc. 600 W. 28th St., Suite 103 Austin, TX 78705 512-236-1677 http://www.pinehill.com
Re: [pinhole-discussion] couple of pictures
Very cool. As to edge sharpness, is the film supported all the way across by rails of some sort? Is it possible that in building the extension the ends went off plane? Or (can you tell I'm just guessing here? ) maybe the rails need to be curved just a bit to accommodate the hole. Pam Simon Cygielski wrote: > > Hi all, > I've uploaded a couple of my first efforts with my 6x17 cm panoramic > pinhole camera. They're up at > > http://www.p at ???/discussion/upload/images/path1.jpg and > http://www.p at ???/discussion/upload/images/phones2.jpg > > I built the camera out of a Holga using bookboard to expand it to its > present size. "Focal" length is 7.5 cm. Any comments would be > appreciated. > I also have a question: is the loss of sharpness on the far edges > inevitable, or can it be corrected somehow? perhaps thinner stock? This > hole was made (fairly carefully) out of a Coke can and sized according > to some pinhole formula (though I forget which one), so it should be > somewhere in the ballpark size-wise. > Thanks, > Simon -- Pamela G. Niedermayer Pinehill Softworks Inc. 600 W. 28th St., Suite 103 Austin, TX 78705 512-236-1677 http://www.pinehill.com
Re: [pinhole-discussion] Re: WPPD Steering Committee more info
No problem. It sure is a good list. Pam James Kellar wrote: > > The list. Sorry if I did'nt make that point clear. > > James > > on 2/25/01 6:42 PM, Pam Niedermayer at pam_p...@cape.com wrote: > > > Do you mean the most work on and most interest in this event? Or this > > list? Or pinhole photography in general? > > > > Pam > > > > James Kellar wrote: > >> > >> Hi all, > >> ... > >> The names were picked by, who has done the most work and ho has shown the > >> most interest. -- Pamela G. Niedermayer Pinehill Softworks Inc. 600 W. 28th St., Suite 103 Austin, TX 78705 512-236-1677 http://www.pinehill.com
Re: [pinhole-discussion] Re: WPPD Steering Committee more info
Do you mean the most work on and most interest in this event? Or this list? Or pinhole photography in general? Pam James Kellar wrote: > > Hi all, > ... > The names were picked by, who has done the most work and ho has shown the > most interest. > > James > > ___ > Pinhole-Discussion mailing list > Pinhole-Discussion@p at ??? > unsubscribe or change your account at > http://www.p at ???/discussion/ -- Pamela G. Niedermayer Pinehill Softworks Inc. 600 W. 28th St., Suite 103 Austin, TX 78705 512-236-1677 http://www.pinehill.com
Re: [pinhole-discussion] WPPD Steering Committee more info
Great, certainly would make for an even more successful event. I think it's great that there are members from around the world. Pam Larry Fratkin wrote: > > Hi Pam and rest, > I would like to see as much diversity as we can get on the committee. > > Larry > -- Pamela G. Niedermayer Pinehill Softworks Inc. 600 W. 28th St., Suite 103 Austin, TX 78705 512-236-1677 http://www.pinehill.com
Re: [pinhole-discussion] WPPD Steering Committee more info
I'm pretty new here, Michael; I'm so new to pinhole that I'm still in the "making the camera/lens board" stage, have never taken a pinhole photo; Austin, TX is very well represented by George Smyth; and I'm not that fond of committee work. All of which is why I didn't respond to the specific request, I thought it would have been presumptive; but I did email earlier saying that if the group chose to form such a beast I'd be happy to help if needed. I'd prefer to see a couple of women who have already been active serve on the committee, just trying to encourage them to step forward and the committee to reach out. And I don't suggest replacing any existing members, rather adding to the group. Pam Michael Keller wrote: > > Pam, are you volunteering to be on the steering committee? Or are you > waiting to volunteer for another committee? > > I'm sure the makeup of the committee is entirely accidental, but a message > was sent asking for folks to volunteer. Obviously, many didn't. > > ___ > Pinhole-Discussion mailing list > Pinhole-Discussion@p at ??? > unsubscribe or change your account at > http://www.p at ???/discussion/ -- Pamela G. Niedermayer Pinehill Softworks Inc. 600 W. 28th St., Suite 103 Austin, TX 78705 512-236-1677 http://www.pinehill.com
Re: [pinhole-discussion] WPPD Steering Committee more info
Thank you, Guillermo. The expressed support from committee members is most appreciated. Pam "G.Penate" wrote: > > - Original Message ----- > From: "Pam Niedermayer" > > > Seems to me there must be one or two women who belong on this > > committee. Now this is just a supposition based on rough numbers, I'm > > too new to the group to know this for sure, certainly too new to know > > who they may be. But I think it's worth the committee's consideration. > > I guess because our communication exchange is not face to face, I never ever > thought about what sex or sex orientation members might be or in this case > the composition of the committee might be. Nevertheless, I think you are > absolutely right in your observation and your suggestion is very important > and I believe timely. > > You (the list) I am sure will hear -very soon- from the committee on this. > > Guillermo > > ___ > Pinhole-Discussion mailing list > Pinhole-Discussion@p at ??? > unsubscribe or change your account at > http://www.p at ???/discussion/ -- Pamela G. Niedermayer Pinehill Softworks Inc. 600 W. 28th St., Suite 103 Austin, TX 78705 512-236-1677 http://www.pinehill.com
Re: [pinhole-discussion] WPPD Steering Committee more info
I suspect that no one did; but that doesn't mean there isn't interest. Leezy, for example, has been quite active in getting this whole thing started, in on it at the beginning. Perhaps, a big perhaps because I don't really know what her desires are, she'd like to be asked. Pam Jeff Dilcher wrote: > > I wonder how many expressed an interest! > > -Original Message- > From: pinhole-discussion-admin@p at ??? > [mailto:pinhole-discussion-admin@p at ???]On Behalf Of Pam > Niedermayer > Sent: Sunday, February 25, 2001 2:44 AM > To: pinhole-discussion@p at ??? > Subject: Re: [pinhole-discussion] WPPD Steering Committee more info > > Seems to me there must be one or two women who belong on this > committee. Now this is just a supposition based on rough numbers, I'm > too new to the group to know this for sure, certainly too new to know > who they may be. But I think it's worth the committee's consideration. > > Pam > > ___ > Pinhole-Discussion mailing list > Pinhole-Discussion@p at ??? > unsubscribe or change your account at > http://www.p at ???/discussion/ -- Pamela G. Niedermayer Pinehill Softworks Inc. 600 W. 28th St., Suite 103 Austin, TX 78705 512-236-1677 http://www.pinehill.com
Re: [pinhole-discussion] WPPD Steering Committee more info
Seems to me there must be one or two women who belong on this committee. Now this is just a supposition based on rough numbers, I'm too new to the group to know this for sure, certainly too new to know who they may be. But I think it's worth the committee's consideration. Pam James Kellar wrote: > > Hi all, > > Here is a bit more inof on the steering committee. > > The members of the committee are as follows: > > Larry Fratkin, Guy Glorieux, Jean Daubas, Gregg Kemp, Zernike Au, Guillermo > Penate, George Smyth, James Kellar and Ed Levinson* > ... -- Pamela G. Niedermayer Pinehill Softworks Inc. 600 W. 28th St., Suite 103 Austin, TX 78705 512-236-1677 http://www.pinehill.com
Re: [pinhole-discussion] (no subject)
You can get pdf data sheets for all the 4x5 films at: http://instantphoto.polaroid.com/service/filmdatasheets/4_5/index.html There's also more info in their product catalog at: http://www.polaroidwork.com/home/LLframeset.jsp?body=/form/search.jsp Sorry I can't be more help, I'm using T55 and T52, haven't played with T59 yet. The data sheets have the reciprocity failure timings. Pam > Natalie Nadozirny wrote: > > Hi. > I am experimenting with a new pinhole camera and polaroid film. Can > anyone give me some information on exposure times using Polaroid 4 x > 5 sheet film, specifically Type 59? > Thanks for your help. > Natalie -- Pamela G. Niedermayer Pinehill Softworks Inc. 600 W. 28th St., Suite 103 Austin, TX 78705 512-236-1677 http://www.pinehill.com
Re: [pinhole-discussion] Pinhole Day Animated Logo
Thanks, Guy, I tried to get one of your color shots in there (the yellow peppers), but it didn't work well as a gif, too posterized. Pam Guy Glorieux wrote: > > Great job, Pam! > Did'nt know you were as good on the computer. I like the animation concept > and the idea of adding longitude and latitude will make a "cool" design! > Cheers. > > Guy > > Pam Niedermayer wrote: > > > Indeed. The logo shown now is for illustration, it also needs a better > > animation method so the static portion doesn't have to reload the > > first time through. I'm thinking of adding longitude and latitude > > lines to the dark "globe", will try that this weekend to see how it looks. > > > > Pam ... -- Pamela G. Niedermayer Pinehill Softworks Inc. 600 W. 28th St., Suite 103 Austin, TX 78705 512-236-1677 http://www.pinehill.com
Re: [pinhole-discussion] Pinhole Day Animated Logo
Indeed. The logo shown now is for illustration, it also needs a better animation method so the static portion doesn't have to reload the first time through. I'm thinking of adding longitude and latitude lines to the dark "globe", will try that this weekend to see how it looks. Pam Temi wrote: > > I appreciate the animated logo very much. If an animated logo is chosen > (this one or someone else's), maybe the opening view of the animated > section could show information as to when the event was taking place. > Then the balance of the animation could show views representatiave of > the different parts of the globe. - Temi > > ___ > Pinhole-Discussion mailing list > Pinhole-Discussion@p at ??? > unsubscribe or change your account at > http://www.p at ???/discussion/ -- Pamela G. Niedermayer Pinehill Softworks Inc. 600 W. 28th St., Suite 103 Austin, TX 78705 512-236-1677 http://www.pinehill.com
Re: [pinhole-discussion] WPPD Logo
Thank you, Wendy. Here's an animated version with photos stolen from George Smyth, Guillermo Penate, and Robyn Gough. I really like all three; but they're included here for illustration since I've not yet received permission to use them. http://www.pinehill.com/WWPPDLogoAnimated.html Pam garfinkeldes...@aol.com wrote: > > I like Pams logo as well. Nice Color and treatment of the name friendlier. > > Wendy > > ___ > Pinhole-Discussion mailing list > Pinhole-Discussion@p at ??? > unsubscribe or change your account at > http://www.p at ???/discussion/ -- Pamela G. Niedermayer Pinehill Softworks Inc. 600 W. 28th St., Suite 103 Austin, TX 78705 512-236-1677 http://www.pinehill.com
Re: [pinhole-discussion] Committee World pinhole photography Day
I'd be willing to work on this, too, if the group decides to set up such a beast. :) Pam George L Smyth wrote: > > --- Zernike Au wrote: > > As we now have many people in the list giving suggestion and idea for the > > pinhole photography day. > > I suggest to set up a commitee(hope I use the correct word) to work for this > > event first. > > I would be willing to offer my time. > > Cheers- > > george > -- Pamela G. Niedermayer Pinehill Softworks Inc. 600 W. 28th St., Suite 103 Austin, TX 78705 512-236-1677 http://www.pinehill.com
Re: [pinhole-discussion] Enhanced Photography Exhibit
Nah, just on occasion have had to keep clients from wanting to kill me, employees from killing each other, etc. :) BTW, you're doing pretty well with the phrase turning yourself, like your PR. Pam Guy Glorieux wrote: > > Thanks Pam! You have a nice way of turning things... Have you been part > of the diplomatic profession in a previous life...? -:)) > > Guy > > Pam Niedermayer wrote: > > > Guy, I think you'll be happier when coming this far south if you plan > > on a spring or fall trip, or even winter -- Pamela G. Niedermayer Pinehill Softworks Inc. 600 W. 28th St., Suite 103 Austin, TX 78705 512-236-1677 http://www.pinehill.com
Re: [pinhole-discussion] Enhanced Photography Exhibit
Guy, I think you'll be happier when coming this far south if you plan on a spring or fall trip, or even winter if you hit the right week (like this one , it's about 70f out there). This is especially true when heading for the lowlands around the Gulf which are extremely humid, as in dripping. You may do OK in early summer, say late May, June. Slightly different advice for a higher elevation and/or some desert destinations. Pam Guy Glorieux wrote: > > Hi Joe, > ... > I sure want to know the Cajun "joie de vivre" and I will most likely > submit a portfolio! Funny this comes, because my wife and I were > talking recently about visiting Louiasiana and New Orleans and the > Bayou country during the summer holidays. But we were turned off a > bit when we read that the mean temperature in New Orleans in August > is 28 Celcius. Is that the case and does that make holidays without > air conditionning unbearable? > > Best, ... -- Pamela G. Niedermayer Pinehill Softworks Inc. 600 W. 28th St., Suite 103 Austin, TX 78705 512-236-1677 http://www.pinehill.com
Re: [pinhole-discussion] 360 camer help
Thanks, Mike, I was guessing based on some anamorphs I've seen with the image at the base of a cylindrical mirror, not photographic, just graphic. In that case, the image can be "interpreted" as reflected on the cylinder. Pam Mike Vande Bunt wrote: > > No. There is no mirror. The film is wrapped around the > inside of the tube and the pinhole is in the center of one end. > > Mike Vande Bunt > > Pam Niedermayer wrote: > > > I'd suggest you investigate anamorphs to start with. Once you figure > > out how they're produced, you could probably design a camera. The > > photos at Pinhole Resource don't provide much help; but my best guess > > is that there's a conical or cylinderical mirror in the center that's > > projecting the image onto film. > > > > ___ > Pinhole-Discussion mailing list > Pinhole-Discussion@p at ??? > unsubscribe or change your account at > http://www.p at ???/discussion/ -- Pamela G. Niedermayer Pinehill Softworks Inc. 600 W. 28th St., Suite 103 Austin, TX 78705 512-236-1677 http://www.pinehill.com
Re: [pinhole-discussion] 360 camer help
I'd suggest you investigate anamorphs to start with. Once you figure out how they're produced, you could probably design a camera. The photos at Pinhole Resource don't provide much help; but my best guess is that there's a conical or cylinderical mirror in the center that's projecting the image onto film. Pam STeven Tong wrote: > > I was wondering if anyone know how to make the pinhole camera found > one the fallowing web page it a 360 camera and i would like to know > how it works so i can try to build on myself. > http://www.pinholeresource.com/products.html#omniscope > I would apericate any info since i cant' afford to buy one. > -- Pamela G. Niedermayer Pinehill Softworks Inc. 600 W. 28th St., Suite 103 Austin, TX 78705 512-236-1677 http://www.pinehill.com
Re: [pinhole-discussion] WPPD Logo
This needs a lot of work, but is generally what I had in mind: http://www.pinehill.com/WWPPDLogo.gif Pam PS I stole/borrowed one of George Smyth's pinhole images since I didn't have anything scanned. It's for illustration purposes only. Michael Keller wrote: > > Since everyone else has taken a turn, take a look at > http://www.wvsbha.org/wwpd.jpg > > ___ > Pinhole-Discussion mailing list > Pinhole-Discussion@p at ??? > unsubscribe or change your account at > http://www.p at ???/discussion/ -- Pamela G. Niedermayer Pinehill Softworks Inc. 600 W. 28th St., Suite 103 Austin, TX 78705 512-236-1677 http://www.pinehill.com
Re: [pinhole-discussion] WPPD Logo
This needs a lot of work, but is generally what I had in mind: http://www.pinehill.com/WWPPDLogo.gif Pam Michael Keller wrote: > > Since everyone else has taken a turn, take a look at > http://www.wvsbha.org/wwpd.jpg > > ___ > Pinhole-Discussion mailing list > Pinhole-Discussion@p at ??? > unsubscribe or change your account at > http://www.p at ???/discussion/ -- Pamela G. Niedermayer Pinehill Softworks Inc. 600 W. 28th St., Suite 103 Austin, TX 78705 512-236-1677 http://www.pinehill.com
Re: [pinhole-discussion] WPPD Logo
Seems to me that every group that is taking on a global, world wide, international task wants to use a globe of some sort in their logo. Let's go for something pinholy rather than globy. Pam Guy Glorieux wrote: > > Scott Sellers wrote: > > > Hi all, > > > > Regarding the WPPD logo, how about using a Mollweide projection map, > > Actually, I kind of like the Hammer projection better. > http://www.soest.hawaii.edu/gmt/gmt/doc/html/GMT_Docs/node98.html > > It has something more "pinholy" to me, I can't figure out why. Perhaps > all that empty Pacific ocean space making up the center of the map... But > I suppose that Jean will feel a bit shoved to the fringe with this map... > -:)) > > Guy -- Pamela G. Niedermayer Pinehill Softworks Inc. 600 W. 28th St., Suite 103 Austin, TX 78705 512-236-1677 http://www.pinehill.com
Re: [pinhole-discussion] Re: Happy Valentine's Day
Something to do, could be cool. Are you in charge of this? Pam b2myo...@aol.com wrote: > > In a message dated 2/14/01 1:28:13 PM, pam_p...@cape.com writes: > > << Is the plan to put together a "pinhole day in the life"? >> > > Yes...with online exhibition, off line exhibition, swaps, etc. The only > parameter is that all the shooting must be done on THAT day. > Whatdaya think? > leezy > > ___ > Pinhole-Discussion mailing list > Pinhole-Discussion@p at ??? > unsubscribe or change your account at > http://www.p at ???/discussion/ -- Pamela G. Niedermayer Pinehill Softworks Inc. 600 W. 28th St., Suite 103 Austin, TX 78705 512-236-1677 http://www.pinehill.com
Re: [pinhole-discussion] Re: Happy Valentine's Day
Is the plan to put together a "pinhole day in the life"? Pam "G.Penate" wrote: > > - Original Message - > From: "Zernike Au" > > > Can we have a day for the pinholers from all over the world? > > Good idea! > > I'd suggest to pick a day when we all can go out and do lots of pinholing. > July would be perfect for those in the Northern hemisphere, but probably not > good for those in the Southern hemisphere, where July falls in the middle of > winter. April looks to me like a good compromise. I'd suggest to have it on > the last Sunday of April, starting this 04.29.2001 > > Guillermo > > ___ > Pinhole-Discussion mailing list > Pinhole-Discussion@p at ??? > unsubscribe or change your account at > http://www.p at ???/discussion/ -- Pamela G. Niedermayer Pinehill Softworks Inc. 600 W. 28th St., Suite 103 Austin, TX 78705 512-236-1677 http://www.pinehill.com
Re: [pinhole-discussion] Westmark Industries
Here's the ebay page: http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1210048657 Pam Guy Glorieux wrote: > > Hi everyone, > > Not too long ago I think that someone raised the topic of Pinhole > cameras produced by Westmark Industries in West Australia. > http://www.geocities.com/westmarkwa/wme1.htm > > I can't remember what the outcome of the discussion was but my question > is whether anybody has any experience with this camera. I noted that > their site has last been updated in October 1999, which is very long by > internet standards. > > Any info. would be appreciated, > > Guy Glorieux -- Pamela G. Niedermayer Pinehill Softworks Inc. 600 W. 28th St., Suite 103 Austin, TX 78705 512-236-1677 http://www.pinehill.com
Re: [pinhole-discussion] Westmark Industries
I just saw one of these on ebay last week. I suppose it's remotely possible the seller has actually used it. I'd find the page for you, but ebay seems to have tanked for the moment; but I'd start searching in completed auctions. Pam Guy Glorieux wrote: > > Hi everyone, > > Not too long ago I think that someone raised the topic of Pinhole > cameras produced by Westmark Industries in West Australia. > http://www.geocities.com/westmarkwa/wme1.htm > > I can't remember what the outcome of the discussion was but my question > is whether anybody has any experience with this camera. I noted that > their site has last been updated in October 1999, which is very long by > internet standards. > > Any info. would be appreciated, > > Guy Glorieux > > ___ > Pinhole-Discussion mailing list > Pinhole-Discussion@p at ??? > unsubscribe or change your account at > http://www.p at ???/discussion/ -- Pamela G. Niedermayer Pinehill Softworks Inc. 600 W. 28th St., Suite 103 Austin, TX 78705 512-236-1677 http://www.pinehill.com
Re: [pinhole-discussion] RE: Micrometer
Grizzly (http://grizzly.com/products/index.html) has a little 1" micrometer for $7; but it's not what you use to measure holes. I got one to measure ground glass to film plane distances. Anyhow, search there on "caliper", "micrometer", etc. to get a feel for what's available. They also have a nice little 6" vernier caliper/1" micrometer/feeler guage combination for not all that much. Pam Harold McCarty wrote: > > From: "Christina Z. Anderson" > To: "Pinhole List" > Date: Fri, 9 Feb 2001 17:57:18 -0700 > Subject: [pinhole-discussion] needle measurer > Reply-To: pinhole-discussion@p at ??? > > Does anyone know where I could find a.is it called a > micrometer, a > gauge, or whatit is a small plate that has a series of > holes in it that > will measure needles to the hundredth of a millimeter? I > don't even know > what it is called to look for it. Apparently it is not a > jeweler's item, > and is not available at the hardware store, because I have > tried both places > (unless I want to measure drill bits). > Chris > > Chris, > A micrometer is a fairly expensive tool and commonly found > at machine shops. You might consider just having someone > measure several needles at a time and save the expense. The > most accesible micrometers to the public will be found at > auto parts supply houses or brake shops, but try an old > supply house. ... -- Pamela G. Niedermayer Pinehill Softworks Inc. 600 W. 28th St., Suite 103 Austin, TX 78705 512-236-1677 http://www.pinehill.com
Re: [pinhole-discussion] needle measurer
It's more difficult to measure the hole than the boring tool, which is easy with a vernier caliper that goes to .001" or so. What I've done is measure and mark (with tape so it's easy to stop at the right diameter) small sewing needles. Pam Guy Glorieux wrote: > > "G.Penate" wrote: > > > You could also use your flatbed scanner, here is a small article I wrote > > about how to do that: http://members.home.com/penate/diameter.htm Try it, > > it > > may give you all the precision you need > > Guillermo, > I normally use my enlarger to measure my pinhole but the flatbed scanner > technique is brilliant. You can be sure I'll try it next time I have a > pinhole > to drill. For those who have access to an accupuncturist, ask them for a > needle, they drill the best holes you can get (IMHO) when you are working with > short focal lengths. > > Guy -- Pamela G. Niedermayer Pinehill Softworks Inc. 600 W. 28th St., Suite 103 Austin, TX 78705 512-236-1677 http://www.pinehill.com
Re: [pinhole-discussion] new to the list; Mamiya 7II lenscap
It really sounds like the Mamiya may be trying to save you from yourself, perhaps the shutter has a latch that mounting a lens (is it bayonette?) releases. Pam "Christina Z. Anderson" wrote: > > > remember that Bulb & Time are different things...Bulb needs to be held > open > > hence the term bulb. Older shutters had a Time function that just opened > the > > shutter & you manually closed it. > > andy > > > The Mamiya 7II has no Time on it. It is just a Bulb setting. > Chris > > ___ > Pinhole-Discussion mailing list > Pinhole-Discussion@p at ??? > unsubscribe or change your account at > http://www.p at ???/discussion/ -- Pamela G. Niedermayer Pinehill Softworks Inc. 600 W. 28th St., Suite 103 Austin, TX 78705 512-236-1677 http://www.pinehill.com
Re: [pinhole-discussion] new to the list; Mamiya 7II lenscap
It really sounds like the Mamiya may be trying to save you from yourself, perhaps the shutter has a latch that mounting a lens (is it bayonette?) releases. Pam "Christina Z. Anderson" wrote: > > > remember that Bulb & Time are different things...Bulb needs to be held > open > > hence the term bulb. Older shutters had a Time function that just opened > the > > shutter & you manually closed it. > > andy > > > The Mamiya 7II has no Time on it. It is just a Bulb setting. > Chris > > ___ > Pinhole-Discussion mailing list > Pinhole-Discussion@p at ??? > unsubscribe or change your account at > http://www.p at ???/discussion/ -- Pamela G. Niedermayer Pinehill Softworks Inc. 600 W. 28th St., Suite 103 Austin, TX 78705 512-236-1677 http://www.pinehill.com
Re: [pinhole-discussion] 20x24
This is still the case, based on their reply to my question yesterday. They did mention that if I could present a compelling case, they'd do whatever they could to support the photographic arts. Maybe Wisner made a deal with one of the studios? Pam The Painted Horse wrote: > > I contacted Polaroid several months ago to see if they sold the 20x24" > film sheets (I really wanted to use this film). I was told it was only > distributed to the studios that host the 20x24 camera and was not > available to the general public. Now, that was several months ago. > Since Wisner is making the Polaroid processor, maybe the film can be > bought from Wisner?? I haven't checked, but since I don't have the > processor or camera to use the film I guess it is a moot point. I'll > just keep using their 8x10 film. > > Bill- > > Pam Niedermayer wrote: > > > > I'd suspect it's possible, given that Wisner sells a 20x24 system. > > What I haven't figured out is where do you buy the film, so I've > > emailed Polaroid for more information. And I don't know whether Wisner > > had to license any technology from Polaroid. > > > > Pam > > > > che lawrence wrote: > > > > > > do any of you remember hearing something about an instructor at the museum > > > school(MFA boston) making a 20x24 camera like polaroids 20x24. he was sued > > > by polaroid for patent infringments. do you think that those of us out > > > here > > > could make a 20x24 with a back for polaroid film? i would really like to > > > explore the possibilty. -- Pamela G. Niedermayer Pinehill Softworks Inc. 600 W. 28th St., Suite 103 Austin, TX 78705 512-236-1677 http://www.pinehill.com
Re: [pinhole-discussion] 20x24
I'd suspect it's possible, given that Wisner sells a 20x24 system. What I haven't figured out is where do you buy the film, so I've emailed Polaroid for more information. And I don't know whether Wisner had to license any technology from Polaroid. Pam che lawrence wrote: > > do any of you remember hearing something about an instructor at the museum > school(MFA boston) making a 20x24 camera like polaroids 20x24. he was sued > by polaroid for patent infringments. do you think that those of us out here > could make a 20x24 with a back for polaroid film? i would really like to > explore the possibilty. > _ > Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com > > ___ > Pinhole-Discussion mailing list > Pinhole-Discussion@p at ??? > unsubscribe or change your account at > http://www.p at ???/discussion/ -- Pamela G. Niedermayer Pinehill Softworks Inc. 600 W. 28th St., Suite 103 Austin, TX 78705 512-236-1677 http://www.pinehill.com
Re: [pinhole-discussion] 20x24
I played with that camera a lot of years ago ('81/'82), think while it
was visiting the Museum School (attached to MFA Boston & Tufts). It is
indeed massive. Alas, we weren't allowed to take any photos with it.
IIRC, one reason it's so huge is the Polaroid processor and carriage
(wheeled) are built in. Today, Wisner sells a separate processor as
well as a 20x24 camera. Add a tripod or two for a more portable package.
Pam
che lawrence wrote:
>
> the 20x24 polaroid camera at mass art sits on a base with wheels. i've only
> seen pictures of it- but it looks as though the base is made from 2x4's and
> metal tubing(square shaped)it weighs 235 pounds and stands 5 feet high.
> believe it or not some artist use it outside(william wegman) but they have
> the bucks to pay for a transport crew. maybe you can make it out of binders
> board. i use it in bookbinding. it is very strong and can be lamimated. i've
> seen pinholes that were made with the polaroid 20x24. they are beautiful.
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Re: [pinhole-discussion] 4x5 help?
The Speed is heavier, bulkier, and for what? A focal plane shutter that you probably wouldn't be able to use for pinhole anyhow as the shutter speeds will be too fast. Pam dibas...@aol.com wrote: > > Thanks so much for getting back to me. I am gathering from what you are > saying that you think the Crown would be a better choice ( more flexibility > for super wide angel) or did I miss something ( out of ignorance) about your > choice of the other Speed Graphic regarding the shutter options. > Donna Bassin > > ___ > Pinhole-Discussion mailing list > Pinhole-Discussion@p at ??? > unsubscribe or change your account at > http://www.p at ???/discussion/ -- Pamela G. Niedermayer Pinehill Softworks Inc. 600 W. 28th St., Suite 103 Austin, TX 78705 512-236-1677 http://www.pinehill.com
Re: [pinhole-discussion] viewfinder
Fascinating; but I wonder if a similar, if not identical, effect could be achieved by printing a grid and placing it in front of the film. Pam Dieter Bublitz wrote: > > Let me add one: > > http://www.andrebaumunk.de/d/index2.htm > > The site is in German only. The English version is still under > construction. > The interesting thing is Andre's "Trinkhalmkamera" made of about 8000 > straws. He too has made some interesting 360°-cameras. > > Dieter > -- Pamela G. Niedermayer Pinehill Softworks Inc. 600 W. 28th St., Suite 103 Austin, TX 78705 512-236-1677 http://www.pinehill.com
Re: [pinhole-discussion] 20x24 pinhole camera
You may want to check out the Wisner site where there's some information about using their 20x24, not pinhole. Also check out the 16x30 camera at: http://www.panphoto.com/MakingTheCameraFitTheFilm.html In fact, you may want to peruse other pages in the panorama photo site. Pam The Painted Horse wrote: > > Hello all. I'm interested in building a 20x24" pinhole camera, > preferably a take-down model. Has anyone out there tried to attempt > this? I currently do all my pinhole work in 8x10" so I am well aware of > the long exposures this may entail...which also makes it all the more > enticing. My biggest concern I'm trying to resolve is how I would mount > such a large camera on a tripod and keeping it stable. Though I'm sure > it's possible to do, it may not be the best way to go. Maybe set it on > a couple of saw horses?? Anyway, just wondering if anyone out there > attempted such a feat and what were the obstacles that occurred. I do > remember reading in Pinhole Journal about a photo artist who used a > 20x24" pinhole camera a few years ago. I can not remember his name, > however. > Thanks in advance. > > Bill- > > ___ > Pinhole-Discussion mailing list > Pinhole-Discussion@p at ??? > unsubscribe or change your account at > http://www.p at ???/discussion/ -- Pamela G. Niedermayer Pinehill Softworks Inc. 600 W. 28th St., Suite 103 Austin, TX 78705 512-236-1677 http://www.pinehill.com
Re: [pinhole-discussion] viewfinder
Maybe camera obscura or a generic peliculas fotografia. Pam Matti Koskinen wrote: > > > Primitive as it is, it is even better than a wire frame and peephole (know > I > > know its name, thx Richard!) as there is no parallax error involved. > > > > Guillermo > thanks Guillermo and Gregg. The lines have even one more good point: They'll > not bend in my carrying bag. > > And what's the correct word in Spanish for "pinhole photography"?Need to > explain what all the cans and boxes are in my closet to a Peruvian woman. > > -matti > mjkos...@sci.fi > > ___ > Pinhole-Discussion mailing list > Pinhole-Discussion@p at ??? > unsubscribe or change your account at > http://www.p at ???/discussion/ -- Pamela G. Niedermayer Pinehill Softworks Inc. 600 W. 28th St., Suite 103 Austin, TX 78705 512-236-1677 http://www.pinehill.com
Re: [pinhole-discussion] Wood 4 x 5 pinhole camera
Here's a place to start: http://www.pinholeresource.com/ Piles of links from there. Pam Temi wrote: > > Thank you George - My message was not stated clearly - what I am looking > for are images of the actual camera to aid me in constructing one > myself. As soon as I send this off I will take time to view your images. > Thank you again. - Temi > > Note: I just went back to your message to pull up your images - I did > not find a URL - I am new to the list so not too familiar with various > subscribers as yet. > > Message: 12 > Date: Fri, 12 Jan 2001 03:17:46 -0800 (PST) > From: George L Smyth > Subject: Re: [pinhole-discussion] Wood Pinhole Camera for 4 x 5 Film > To: pinhole-discussion@p at ??? > Reply-To: pinhole-discussion@p at ??? > > --- Temi wrote: > > I plan to build a pinhole camera out of wood that would use a 4 x 5 > film > > holder. Does anyone know of any images on the web of this type of > > pinhole camera. The URLs would be a great help. Thank you. --Temi > > All Images in the Pinhole section of my site, with the exception of > "Jimmy" > were made with this type of camera. > > Cheers - > > george > > ___ > Pinhole-Discussion mailing list > Pinhole-Discussion@p at ??? > unsubscribe or change your account at > http://www.p at ???/discussion/ -- Pamela G. Niedermayer Pinehill Softworks Inc. 600 W. 28th St., Suite 103 Austin, TX 78705 512-236-1677 http://www.pinehill.com
Re: [pinhole-discussion] PDA and pinhole
Awful lot of technology in film, light sensitive paper, maybe even the cardboard. One could even argue that a tiny pda for taking notes is more minimalist that big pieces of paper, pens, etc. :) Pam Mike Vande Bunt wrote: > > Well, yes . . . the concept of using a hand held computer does seem > a bit (pun intended) at odds with the whole minimalist concept of > pinhole photography. > > Mike > > William Erickson wrote: > > > Whats a PDA? What's a C programmer? Some of us haven't gotten beyond > > cardboard boxes. -- Pamela G. Niedermayer Pinehill Softworks Inc. 600 W. 28th St., Suite 103 Austin, TX 78705 512-236-1677 http://www.pinehill.com
Re: [pinhole-discussion] PDA and pinhole
You can transfer data between Palm's and Macs. Also Newton <-> Mac, although you'll need a USB to serial adapter if you have a newish Mac. Pam b2myo...@aol.com wrote: > > In a message dated 1/9/01 4:32:30 PM, tkho...@online.no writes: > > << I have one (Palm V) and use it to count down exposure times for me. It > gives > me a 'beep' when it is finished. I also keep my notes on it. The fine thing > is that I find these notes on my computer later, and can make use of them > from there. > I've found use for it. "Pinhole Digital Assistant" - that's a good one :-) > Trond Kjetil > >> > > Are there some that are Mac compatible? > leezy > > ___ > Pinhole-Discussion mailing list > Pinhole-Discussion@p at ??? > unsubscribe or change your account at > http://www.p at ???/discussion/ -- Pamela G. Niedermayer Pinehill Softworks Inc. 600 W. 28th St., Suite 103 Austin, TX 78705 512-236-1677 http://www.pinehill.com
Re: [pinhole-discussion] PDA and pinhole
It can be, just depends on what software you install. Pam b2myo...@aol.com wrote: > > In a message dated 1/9/01 10:18:40 AM, glsm...@yahoo.com writes: > > << It's simple a device that keeps your calendar, phone contacts, etc. >> > > Oh...Thank you. > I thought perhaps it kept things like f stops, aperture, contact sheet info, > etc. > Wellum-m-m. > Another toylove'em. > best, > leezy > > ___ > Pinhole-Discussion mailing list > Pinhole-Discussion@p at ??? > unsubscribe or change your account at > http://www.p at ???/discussion/ -- Pamela G. Niedermayer Pinehill Softworks Inc. 600 W. 28th St., Suite 103 Austin, TX 78705 512-236-1677 http://www.pinehill.com
Re: [pinhole-discussion] PDA and pinhole
Yes, piles of Newton experience (my company), but not the Palm OS. There are some databases available that allow you to build applets. There's also some photography software, think one package (a bit on the dear side) is from Darkroom Innovations. Pam James Kellar wrote: > > Hi all, > > I was lucky this christmas and received a Handspring Visor PDA. My first > thoughts were this will be great using this with my pinhole photography. > Does any one have any experience with programming a PDA? > > James > > ___ > Pinhole-Discussion mailing list > Pinhole-Discussion@p at ??? > unsubscribe or change your account at > http://www.p at ???/discussion/ -- Pamela G. Niedermayer Pinehill Softworks Inc. 600 W. 28th St., Suite 103 Austin, TX 78705 512-236-1677 http://www.pinehill.com
