Re: [pinhole-discussion] Pinhole nude question

[Catherine Just]

Yes this is a great help too. I appreciate the
information!

Catherine
--- Howard Wells sandw...@earthlink.net wrote:
 Catherine,
 
 I've spent a good bit of time battling the lone
 exposure times of
 pinhole using a lot of pinholes in the f128 to f150
 range with fast film
 but I've also been able to get interesting effects
 with lenses without
 resorting to filters.
 
 One method to create pinhole type effects while
 reducing exposure times
 is to use a lens either focused past infinity (ie
 closer to the film
 plane than infinity) or to move a lens into the
 macro focus area. In
 35mm I use a focusing extension tube (by
 Zorkendorfer) with enlarging
 lenses for this. Stopping all the way down increases
 the detail and if
 the lens makes a circular aperture the effect can be
 quite pleasing.
 I've also shot landscapes with a 55mm macro lens
 focused at 9 inches and
 stopped all the way down. Lately I've been putting a
 Russian 28mm leica
 thread lens on my nikons. Actual point of focus is
 about 3 inches from
 the front of the lens. I've also shot portraits by
 holding a loupe or
 other simple lens in front of the camera. 
 
 Very easy with a 4x5 camera, or any camera with
 bellows, of course and
 you have more information to play with on the
 negative. Hope this helps
 a little. I'm a tireless experimenter.
 
 Howard Wells
 
 
 Catherine Just wrote:
  
  I was wondering about the lighting! Thanks for the
  info. I'm printing it out for a reference!
  
  Sounds like I'm better off doing a long exposure -
  inside - with controlled lighting - with a regular
  lens camera...
  
  Catherine
  --- Colin Talcroft ctalcr...@yahoo.com wrote:
   Hi Catherine,
  
   Thanks for saying you like my work, and I'm glad
 to
   hear that looking at it was of help. Thought you
 and
   anyone else interested might find it useful to
 know
   that those three nudes (including the one you
   mention
   specifically) were all done indoors usually with
 one
  
   500 Watt light. The film was T-Max 100.
 Exposures
   with
   a lens were usually 4 to 16 seconds at f=16 if I
   remember correctly. The pinhole exposures
 usually
   were
   about 20 minutes at the least, often more like
 30,
   and
   sometimes as long as 40 minutes. It's not a
   coincidence that the pinhole poses are mostly
   reclining. That's about the only way to stay
 still
   for
   that length of time. Often the model would fall
   asleep! I can remeber a session or two during
 which
   I
   set up the pinholes, let them go, spent 10 or
   fifteen
   minutes doing lens photos, and still had time to
 get
   out a sketchbook and do some drawings before
   finishing
   the pinhole exposures and setting up a new pose!
  
   Colin
  
  
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Re: [pinhole-discussion] Pinhole nude question

[Colin Talcroft]

Didn't mean to discourage pinhole at all, just wanted
you to be aware of the problems I had had. Give it a
try, by all means. Just be sure you have a cooperative
model or at least a comfortable one!

Colin

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Re: [pinhole-discussion] Pinhole nude question

[Colin Talcroft]

Hi Catherine,

Thanks for saying you like my work, and I'm glad to
hear that looking at it was of help. Thought you and
anyone else interested might find it useful to know
that those three nudes (including the one you mention
specifically) were all done indoors usually with one 
500 Watt light. The film was T-Max 100. Exposures with
a lens were usually 4 to 16 seconds at f=16 if I
remember correctly. The pinhole exposures usually were
about 20 minutes at the least, often more like 30, and
sometimes as long as 40 minutes. It's not a
coincidence that the pinhole poses are mostly
reclining. That's about the only way to stay still for
that length of time. Often the model would fall
asleep! I can remeber a session or two during which I
set up the pinholes, let them go, spent 10 or fifteen
minutes doing lens photos, and still had time to get
out a sketchbook and do some drawings before finishing
the pinhole exposures and setting up a new pose! 

Colin 

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Re: [pinhole-discussion] Pinhole nude question (was another question)

[Colin Talcroft]

Hi Catherine,

I've done a fair amount of nude work with pinholes,
zone plates, and lenses. In fact, I began using zone
plates to deal with the biggest problem I was having
in this area--the long exposures were really hard on
the model (it didn't help much). This may be a problem
especially if your interested in a dreamy look that
may require low light situations. For what it's worth,
the zone plate exposures weren't that much faster than
the pinhole exposures. They were still so long that
only the most intrepid models are capable of holding
them--blurred effects that result can be interesting,
of course. 

One method that did help was to find an interestig
pose that had possibilities from a number of angles
and then to use multiple cameras to get two or three
pinhole shots out of a single long pose, but the wide
angle of most pinhole and zone plate cameras means you
often have to set up very carefully to avoid getting
one of the other cameras in the picture! 

You might find (dare I suggest it) that traditional
photographer tricks like gauze or vaseline on a filter
using a lens may achieve the effect you are looking
for with far less hassle than pinhole or zone plate. I
am assuming here that the result is more important to
you than the process (which may not be true). Anyway,
the biggest frustration has been model fatigue. That
can be compounded by the fact that you may be paying
for a model's time and it's expensive to pay $20 an
hour or so and only shoot two negatives! Very fast
films may help too, if you don't mind the grain.

There are at least three pinhole nudes on my websites.
If you are interested, go to:

http://www.sonic.net/~talcroft/camerawork/

That will take you to my lens site, but it has links
to my pinhole site and to my nude photography site at
the bottom.

Hopes this helps.



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