RE: [pinhole-discussion] Upper Midwest Pinhole Get-together - Wow

2001-11-05 Thread Gregg Kemp
Tom - sounds like you guys had an exciting time - an impressive gathering and 
program.  Thanks for letting us know how things turned out. 

Gregg

> -Original Message-
> From: Tom Miller [mailto:twmil...@mr.net]
> Sent: Monday, November 05, 2001 10:47 AM
> To: pinhole-discussion@p at ???
> Subject: [pinhole-discussion] Upper Midwest Pinhole Get-together - Wow
> 
> 
> Dear All,
> 
> Bill Erickson and I would like to thank all who participated in
> yesterday's "Pinhole: Informal Forum," also known as the "Upper
> Midwest Pinhole Get-together," at the pARTs Photographic Arts Gallery
> in Minneapolis.   The event was a success and an inspiration for both
> presenters and attendees.  Also thanks to Gregg Kemp for providing
> internet space on his site and in the "Pinhole Visions" for the for
> forum announcement.
> 
> Chris Faust presented work from a series he created about ten years
> ago that placed pinhole cameras in the perspective of a child and
> viewed the world from this playful vantage point.  His work included
> an 360-degree, 18 foot long print taken from the inside of a playpen
> by a Cirkut camera fitted with a zone plate.  This image is also in
> Pinhole Journal, vol 12 #3.  List member Eric Nelson discussed how he
> incorporates pinhole photography into his junior high art classes.  He
> also showed several of his own and his students' images.  Derrick
> Burbul, from the University of Minnesota, Duluth, showed his
> multi-pinhole camera that takes five 4x5 exposures at once, as well as
> images made with the camera.  John Campbell
> (http://www.pinholeday.org/2001/photo_79.html) showed his work done
> mostly with pinholes mounted on Leicas and also on a Nikon digital
> camera.  Andrew Kamin (www.pinholeplanet.com) demonstrated his
> prototype dual focal length 4x5 camera and showed several
> transparancies made with this camera.  Bill Erickson presented several
> platinum prints and a cyanotype from recent travel to Ireland.
> Attendees who stayed for the question/answer/network session saw some
> of my dual-slit color photos from the Iconclast series.
> 
> The pARTs Gallery staff was excited by the enthusiastic turnout.  I'll
> be working with them on the possibility of having pARTs be a local /
> regional center for next year's Pinhole Day.
> 
> Tom Miller
> 
> 
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Re: [pinhole-discussion] Upper Midwest Pinhole Get-together - Wow

2001-11-05 Thread Guy Glorieux
Bravo, Tom!
I wish I could have been there.  It must have been really great to see all
this work and the people who actually did it.
Keep up this great work and indeed try to get it lined up with the 2nd
Worldwide Pinhole Photography Day  on April 28, 2002.
Cheers,
Guy


Tom Miller wrote:

> Dear All,
>
> Bill Erickson and I would like to thank all who participated in
> yesterday's "Pinhole: Informal Forum," also known as the "Upper
> Midwest Pinhole Get-together," at the pARTs Photographic Arts Gallery
> in Minneapolis.   The event was a success and an inspiration for both
> presenters and attendees.  Also thanks to Gregg Kemp for providing
> internet space on his site and in the "Pinhole Visions" for the for
> forum announcement.
>
> Chris Faust presented work from a series he created about ten years
> ago that placed pinhole cameras in the perspective of a child and
> viewed the world from this playful vantage point.  His work included
> an 360-degree, 18 foot long print taken from the inside of a playpen
> by a Cirkut camera fitted with a zone plate.  This image is also in
> Pinhole Journal, vol 12 #3.  List member Eric Nelson discussed how he
> incorporates pinhole photography into his junior high art classes.  He
> also showed several of his own and his students' images.  Derrick
> Burbul, from the University of Minnesota, Duluth, showed his
> multi-pinhole camera that takes five 4x5 exposures at once, as well as
> images made with the camera.  John Campbell
> (http://www.pinholeday.org/2001/photo_79.html) showed his work done
> mostly with pinholes mounted on Leicas and also on a Nikon digital
> camera.  Andrew Kamin (www.pinholeplanet.com) demonstrated his
> prototype dual focal length 4x5 camera and showed several
> transparancies made with this camera.  Bill Erickson presented several
> platinum prints and a cyanotype from recent travel to Ireland.
> Attendees who stayed for the question/answer/network session saw some
> of my dual-slit color photos from the Iconclast series.
>
> The pARTs Gallery staff was excited by the enthusiastic turnout.  I'll
> be working with them on the possibility of having pARTs be a local /
> regional center for next year's Pinhole Day.
>
> Tom Miller
>
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[pinhole-discussion] Upper Midwest Pinhole Get-together - Wow

2001-11-05 Thread Tom Miller
Dear All,

Bill Erickson and I would like to thank all who participated in
yesterday's "Pinhole: Informal Forum," also known as the "Upper
Midwest Pinhole Get-together," at the pARTs Photographic Arts Gallery
in Minneapolis.   The event was a success and an inspiration for both
presenters and attendees.  Also thanks to Gregg Kemp for providing
internet space on his site and in the "Pinhole Visions" for the for
forum announcement.

Chris Faust presented work from a series he created about ten years
ago that placed pinhole cameras in the perspective of a child and
viewed the world from this playful vantage point.  His work included
an 360-degree, 18 foot long print taken from the inside of a playpen
by a Cirkut camera fitted with a zone plate.  This image is also in
Pinhole Journal, vol 12 #3.  List member Eric Nelson discussed how he
incorporates pinhole photography into his junior high art classes.  He
also showed several of his own and his students' images.  Derrick
Burbul, from the University of Minnesota, Duluth, showed his
multi-pinhole camera that takes five 4x5 exposures at once, as well as
images made with the camera.  John Campbell
(http://www.pinholeday.org/2001/photo_79.html) showed his work done
mostly with pinholes mounted on Leicas and also on a Nikon digital
camera.  Andrew Kamin (www.pinholeplanet.com) demonstrated his
prototype dual focal length 4x5 camera and showed several
transparancies made with this camera.  Bill Erickson presented several
platinum prints and a cyanotype from recent travel to Ireland.
Attendees who stayed for the question/answer/network session saw some
of my dual-slit color photos from the Iconclast series.

The pARTs Gallery staff was excited by the enthusiastic turnout.  I'll
be working with them on the possibility of having pARTs be a local /
regional center for next year's Pinhole Day.

Tom Miller





Re: [pinhole-discussion] Upper Midwest Pinhole Get-together.

2001-03-31 Thread NORLINK
Donna
To follow up on Guy's tale of a broken camera. The Holga. while not having 
the cult status of the Diana, is much more robust, has less light leak 
problems, and is a lot cheaper. Many people will modify a Holga lens with 
steelwool, sandpaper, or clear fingernail polish to reduce the "sharpness" 
and approximate the Diana lens effect. Others have removed the lens from a 
dysfunctional Diana and mounted them on lens boards for their 4x5. FWIW - I 
have a Diana and several clones, but end up shooting mostly with the Holgas. 
I actually prefer the slightly sharper image of the Holga to the Diana image. 
But others would choose the reverse order. K

Some more links:
http://www.toycamera.org/";>Jonathan Winters
http://www.frontiernet.net/~moe/Holga%20Pages/holgamain.html";>The 
Holga Modification Pages
http://www.toycamera.com/index.html";>The Great Lakes Region's source 
for Plastic cam…

Happy Trails,
Kurt Norlin



Re: [pinhole-discussion] Upper Midwest Pinhole Get-together.

2001-03-31 Thread Guy Glorieux

dibas...@aol.com wrote:

> I am relatively new to pinhole (but very much in love) and the discussion
> list.  I want to add a Diana camera to my small collection of oatmeal boxes

Hi Donna,
I had a Diana, bought on eBay for an outrageous price, which unfortunately
broke.  The plastic is plastic and I was carrying it around without protection 
in
my backpack...  So I decided to replace it by a clone.  Even those are way too
expensive.

My experience with these cameras is mixed.  I like the images I get from them 
but
I don't like the small format of the negative.  But then you get more pictures 
on
a roll of 120 film than with a conventional 2 1/4 or a Holga.

I also find that it is difficult to mix pinhole with plastic when I put my
pictures together for a show or something.  Individually they are great, but 
side
by side, it seems that they don't fit together.

Winning on eBay is an art...  I, myself, wait in the back until the last moments
of the auction.  I check if the price remains good for me, then I jump in the
last few seconds with a maximum bid which I what I am prepared to pay for the
item.  I generally works, but not always.  There are many who follow that
strategy and some have nerves of steal (together with a high-speed connection
allowing them to wait literally for the last 5 seconds...)

Good luck with your experiments if you get one.

Cheers,

Guy

P.S.  Thanks, Kurt, for your interesting links.




Re: [pinhole-discussion] Upper Midwest Pinhole Get-together.

2001-03-31 Thread Pam Niedermayer
If you're going to use it for pinhole, you may as well just get a new
Holga or the like (Lomo if you want 35mm), they're only $15 at
Freestyle (no financial interest).

Pam

norl...@aol.com wrote:
> 
> Hi Donna
> Not to worry. Many pinholers shoot Toy cameras as well. I can tell you the
> little I know - the 151 was the original and shoots a somewhat smaller image
> than the F. I am not sure about the 162.  Prices have gone way up on mint
> condition Dianas, driven by competition between photographers and collectors
> for those few. The Diana was put out under many different names by the Great
> Wall Plastics, and these "clones" have been cheaper but also are increasing
> in price. Here are some links:
> http://members.aol.com/hpargotohp/diana.html";>Diana Camera Types
> http://www.sirius.com/~alc/site_html/frameset.html";>The Camera
> Museum (Toy)
> 
> The Toy Camera Web Ring would also be a good source of information.
> http://www.webring.org/cgi-bin/webring?ring=toycamring&list";>Toy
> Camera Ring
> 
> Happy Trails,
> Kurt Norlin
> 
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Re: [pinhole-discussion] Upper Midwest Pinhole Get-together.

2001-03-31 Thread NORLINK
Hi Donna
Not to worry. Many pinholers shoot Toy cameras as well. I can tell you the 
little I know - the 151 was the original and shoots a somewhat smaller image 
than the F. I am not sure about the 162.  Prices have gone way up on mint 
condition Dianas, driven by competition between photographers and collectors 
for those few. The Diana was put out under many different names by the Great 
Wall Plastics, and these "clones" have been cheaper but also are increasing 
in price. Here are some links:
http://members.aol.com/hpargotohp/diana.html";>Diana Camera Types 
http://www.sirius.com/~alc/site_html/frameset.html";>The Camera 
Museum (Toy) 

The Toy Camera Web Ring would also be a good source of information.
http://www.webring.org/cgi-bin/webring?ring=toycamring&list";>Toy 
Camera Ring

Happy Trails,
Kurt Norlin



Re: [pinhole-discussion] Upper Midwest Pinhole Get-together.

2001-03-31 Thread Pam Niedermayer
That's wonderful, Tom. And it looks like a very interesting
organization, love the education program, especially the mentoring.

Pam

Tom Miller wrote:
> 
> Worldwide Pinhole Day is in the forum handouts already.  We wouldn't
> neglect it.  The proximity of the informal forum to pinhole day is
> akin the many delightful surprises of pinhole .  We had the date set
> with the pARTs Gallery a couple of weeks before the pinhole day idea
> was proposed on this list on Valentine's Day.  If you're curious about
> pARTs, the URL is: www.partsphoto.org
> 
> - Original Message -
> From: "Pam Niedermayer" 
> To: 
> Sent: Friday, March 30, 2001 8:51 PM
> Subject: Re: [pinhole-discussion] Upper Midwest Pinhole Get-together.
> 
> > Would be cool if mention is made of Worldwide Pinhole Photography
> Day,
> > to occur 4/29.
> >
> > Pam
> >
> > William Erickson wrote:
> > >
> > > Tom Miller and I are organizing an informal pinhole forum at the
> pARTS
> > > Gallery at 711 W. Lake St,(just off Lyndale) Minneapolis, at 6:30
> p.m.
> > > Thursday April 26.
> 
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600 W. 28th St., Suite 103
Austin, TX 78705
512-236-1677
http://www.pinehill.com



Re: [pinhole-discussion] Upper Midwest Pinhole Get-together.

2001-03-31 Thread Dibassin
I am relatively new to pinhole (but very much in love) and the discussion 
list.  I want to add a Diana camera to my small collection of oatmeal boxes 
and one zero 2000 camera.I know Diana is not a pinhole and I have been 
sensitized to process and product themes on the discussion as of late. But 
certainly a related cousin.   I have so far lost many ebay bidding wars and 
realized I don't know what the differences are between the various Diana 
camera models. Does anybody have any information to share? There seems to be 
a difference in value for 151 vs. F vs. 162 , etc., but I am not sure whether 
that is a "collector's issue" or whether the different models might offer 
something useful for the "fuzzy dreamy quality." Thanks to all of you for 
this wonderful education I have been receiving.  
Donna



Re: [pinhole-discussion] Upper Midwest Pinhole Get-together.

2001-03-30 Thread Tom Miller
Worldwide Pinhole Day is in the forum handouts already.  We wouldn't
neglect it.  The proximity of the informal forum to pinhole day is
akin the many delightful surprises of pinhole .  We had the date set
with the pARTs Gallery a couple of weeks before the pinhole day idea
was proposed on this list on Valentine's Day.  If you're curious about
pARTs, the URL is: www.partsphoto.org

- Original Message -
From: "Pam Niedermayer" 
To: 
Sent: Friday, March 30, 2001 8:51 PM
Subject: Re: [pinhole-discussion] Upper Midwest Pinhole Get-together.


> Would be cool if mention is made of Worldwide Pinhole Photography
Day,
> to occur 4/29.
>
> Pam
>
> William Erickson wrote:
> >
> > Tom Miller and I are organizing an informal pinhole forum at the
pARTS
> > Gallery at 711 W. Lake St,(just off Lyndale) Minneapolis, at 6:30
p.m.
> > Thursday April 26.




Re: [pinhole-discussion] Upper Midwest Pinhole Get-together.

2001-03-30 Thread Pam Niedermayer
Would be cool if mention is made of Worldwide Pinhole Photography Day,
to occur 4/29.

Pam

William Erickson wrote:
> 
> Tom Miller and I are organizing an informal pinhole forum at the pARTS
> Gallery at 711 W. Lake St,(just off Lyndale) Minneapolis, at 6:30 p.m.
> Thursday April 26. The gallery is devoted to photographic arts and
> graciously opened their space to us. Any of you who have corresponded with
> Pinhole Resource will get a snail mail announcement as well, since Pinhole
> Resource gracioulsy shared their upper midwest mailing list. We hope as many
> of you who can make it will be there to share your work and meet your fellow
> enthusiasts.
> 
> ___
> Pinhole-Discussion mailing list
> Pinhole-Discussion@p at ???
> unsubscribe or change your account at
> http://www.p at ???/discussion/

-- 
Pamela G. Niedermayer
Pinehill Softworks Inc.
600 W. 28th St., Suite 103
Austin, TX 78705
512-236-1677
http://www.pinehill.com



[pinhole-discussion] Upper Midwest Pinhole Get-together.

2001-03-30 Thread William Erickson
Tom Miller and I are organizing an informal pinhole forum at the pARTS
Gallery at 711 W. Lake St,(just off Lyndale) Minneapolis, at 6:30 p.m.
Thursday April 26. The gallery is devoted to photographic arts and
graciously opened their space to us. Any of you who have corresponded with
Pinhole Resource will get a snail mail announcement as well, since Pinhole
Resource gracioulsy shared their upper midwest mailing list. We hope as many
of you who can make it will be there to share your work and meet your fellow
enthusiasts.