Re: [pinhole-discussion] Zero 6x9 pinhole

2002-03-10 Thread Jeff Dilcher
I would second that advice.  The formulas give you supposedly
the most sharp picture for the given focal length and pinhole
size... but, is that really what you want from a pinhole image-
the most sharp picture you can get?  You can be *way* off, and
still get great pictures.




On Sun, 2002-03-10 at 07:12, Bill Erickson wrote:
 There are at least two different formulas for the pinhole to film plane
 distance question. There are lots of different tables already calculated
 that have been referred to before. See Eric Renner's book for a long
 detailed description. Also, since you can be off from the right distance
 by a factor of 10 and still get usable images, just try something and see
 what you get.
 
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 Subject: [pinhole-discussion] Zero 6x9 pinhole
 
 
  Hi all,
 
  How about different subject than photoflo !
 
  I am getting ready to order the zero 6x9 multiformat pinhole
  camera, has anybody used this camera's ? is it worth 200 Bucks ?
  I have mostly used large format camera's, I have a big 5x7 view
  camera, I dont think it be hard to convert to pinhole but how do
  select the distance of the bellows ( pinhole to film plane ) ?
  is there certain rule ?
 
  C.H. Fowler
 
 
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Re: [pinhole-discussion] Zero 6x9 pinhole

2002-03-10 Thread Bill Erickson
There are at least two different formulas for the pinhole to film plane
distance question. There are lots of different tables already calculated
that have been referred to before. See Eric Renner's book for a long
detailed description. Also, since you can be off from the right distance
by a factor of 10 and still get usable images, just try something and see
what you get.

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From: cfowler cfowl...@tampabay.rr.com
To: pinhole-discussion@p at ???
Sent: Saturday, March 09, 2002 7:49 AM
Subject: [pinhole-discussion] Zero 6x9 pinhole


 Hi all,

 How about different subject than photoflo !

 I am getting ready to order the zero 6x9 multiformat pinhole
 camera, has anybody used this camera's ? is it worth 200 Bucks ?
 I have mostly used large format camera's, I have a big 5x7 view
 camera, I dont think it be hard to convert to pinhole but how do
 select the distance of the bellows ( pinhole to film plane ) ?
 is there certain rule ?

 C.H. Fowler


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Re: [pinhole-discussion] Zero 6x9 pinhole

2002-03-10 Thread Guy Glorieux
I can't say enough good things either the Zero 6x9.
It's a beauty, it's easy to use, it does multiple formats (I use mine
mostly on 6x9).
You make friends from people who want to know what it is you are doing
when you shoot a picture (you know, like walking a dog gets you to meet
all sorts of new people).
And when you're done you've got wonderful pinhole prints.
What more can you ask.
A jewel!
Guy
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From: cfowler cfowl...@tampabay.rr.com
To: pinhole-discussion@p at ???
Sent: Saturday, March 09, 2002 8:49 AM
Subject: [pinhole-discussion] Zero 6x9 pinhole


 Hi all,

 How about different subject than photoflo !

 I am getting ready to order the zero 6x9 multiformat pinhole
 camera, has anybody used this camera's ? is it worth 200 Bucks ?
 I have mostly used large format camera's, I have a big 5x7 view
 camera, I dont think it be hard to convert to pinhole but how do
 select the distance of the bellows ( pinhole to film plane ) ?
 is there certain rule ?

 C.H. Fowler


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Re: [pinhole-discussion] Zero 6x9 pinhole

2002-03-10 Thread G.Penate
- Original Message -
From: cfowler cfowl...@tampabay.rr.com

 I am getting ready to order the zero 6x9 multiformat pinhole
 camera, has anybody used this camera's ? is it worth 200 Bucks ?

I don't own the camera, but I've seen it and -as I have said before, the darn
thing is  a beauty, no question about it.  From the point of view of
craftmanship I'd say it is worth the 200 american pesos and I'd bet its
pinhole-photographic functionality is up there, too.

 I have mostly used large format camera's, I have a big 5x7 view
 camera, I dont think it be hard to convert to pinhole

A view camera hardly needs any thing done to it to convert it to pinhole camera,
you just basically need to use or dedicate a lens holder to mount a pinhole on
it.

  but how do
 select the distance of the bellows ( pinhole to film plane ) ?
 is there certain rule ?

You mention the distance pinhole to film plane, that is the focal length of
your set up.  The rule, (which is meant to be broken to suit your purposes, BTW)
is given by the formula for the optimum pinhole diameter.  You don't have to
use that distance, but at least it gives you a reference point from which
depart.  If you don't care in measuring pinholes and calculating optimum
diameters of focal lengths, then, you don't have to care in measuring the
bellows extension, either, just find by trial and error a bellows extension
point  you like the results from and that would be the optimum focal length
for that particular pinhole.

Guillermo







Re: [pinhole-discussion] Zero 6x9 pinhole

2002-03-09 Thread DAlfrey
In a message dated 3/9/02 3:44:25 PM Central Standard Time, 
cfowl...@tampabay.rr.com writes:

 
 I am getting ready to order the zero 6x9 multiformat pinhole
 camera, has anybody used this camera's ? is it worth 200 Bucks ?
 I have mostly used large format camera's, I have a big 5x7 view
 camera, I dont think it be hard to convert to pinhole but how do
 select the distance of the bellows ( pinhole to film plane ) ?
 is there certain rule ?
 
 C.H. Fowler
  
C.H, 

I strongly advise you to go ahead and buy the Zero Image Multi Format pinhole 
camera for several reasons , all of which if you buy will come to agree is 
worth the money . I have one, and have used it quite a lot , and the quality 
is such that I am readying to buy Zero Image's 4X5 even though I have other 
4X5 pinhole cameras.

The camera itself is in my not so humble opinion is an objet d' art alone. 
its simplicity alone is amazing , but then arent all pinholes simple ? :-) 
The craftmanship shows , and I quite often  show it off , like one would a 
new toy .

Zernike Au who owns Zero Image sends the camera in a nice stuff sack, , but I 
also protect mine from scratches by inserting it in a thick wool sock, for 
added bump and scratch protection .


(Sorry, Zernike , if you are reading this plug for your works)blush, but I 
cant say enough good things about this camera, and I am usually given to 
skepticism , and if others who own a Zero Image, be it the 6X6 , the Multi 
Format, or the newer 4x5 version , I suspect you will  find few detractors 
from these cameras , Yes, seemingly the 200 dollar   price might well seem 
high to you initially, but once you have the cameras in your hands , you will 
see it was well worth it. , but think of it this way, quality items well 
crafted always carry a price, Ask anyone who would be willing to sell theirs, 
and you would have few if any sellers I suspect , you can have my Zero Image 
Multi Format , when you rip it from my dead cold fingers !!



[pinhole-discussion] Zero 6x9 pinhole

2002-03-09 Thread cfowler
Hi all,

How about different subject than photoflo !

I am getting ready to order the zero 6x9 multiformat pinhole
camera, has anybody used this camera's ? is it worth 200 Bucks ?
I have mostly used large format camera's, I have a big 5x7 view
camera, I dont think it be hard to convert to pinhole but how do
select the distance of the bellows ( pinhole to film plane ) ?
is there certain rule ?

C.H. Fowler