Re: [pinhole-discussion] cheap press for relief printing

2001-09-26 Thread Gordon J. Holtslander
Hi:

>From what I have read the polymer plates need a screen.

There is a very good web site about photopolymer plates at
http://axp.psl.ku.dk/~ross/Ph_grav.html

This source of screens is recommended:

  Hellas Grafisk ApS
  Islandsgade 28-30
  DK-4690 Haslev
  Phone: (+45) 56 31 30 30
  Fax: (+45) 56 31 70 30

Though I think I will try and find a North American distributor.


I suspect the litho plates will need a screen.  We're going to try some
without any first.

I think an easy way of producing a "low budget" screened image is to print
out the image with a laserprinter an acetate.  The laser printer makes its
own "screen" I've seen gum-bichromate prints done this way.  Its sort of a
failsafe way of doing this.

By the way - if this is becoming too much of a alt-photo discussion we can
move it to the alt-photo list :)

Gord

On Tue, 25 Sep 2001, Colin Talcroft wrote:

>
> Still interested to hear if anyone knows what kind of
> tonal range the oven cleaner method allows. Also
> interested in ongoing reports on the UV-sensitive
> resin emulsion developed in water that someone
> mentioned. I suspect these both require screens to get
> any kind of tonal range. Given the already highly
> contrasty nature of pinhole negtives in many cases, I
> wonder if this approach would yield good results very
> often, but who knows?
>

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Re: [pinhole-discussion] cheap press for relief printing

2001-09-25 Thread Colin Talcroft
Yes, water-based inks work, but in that case you have
to use a block made of something slightly absorbent
that will hold the ink. In Japan, cherry wood was
traditional (very expensive today), but any good wood
will do. Surely there are other things that would be
suitable, but metal plates (copper, brass, aluminum
and zinc, among others can be used with oil-based
inks), rubber, linoleum, etc. don't work with
water-based inks. In my own work, I use combinations
of wood and cardboard as the "plates" but use
oil-based inks because the cardboard holds up better
that way.

Still interested to hear if anyone knows what kind of
tonal range the oven cleaner method allows. Also
interested in ongoing reports on the UV-sensitive
resin emulsion developed in water that someone
mentioned. I suspect these both require screens to get
any kind of tonal range. Given the already highly 
contrasty nature of pinhole negtives in many cases, I
wonder if this approach would yield good results very
often, but who knows?

For what it's worth, all the oil-based stuff can be
done using relatively benign fuel oil (Japanese
toyu--Ed help me if this is the wrong translation) as
the solvent. It's not very volatile nor is it as
carcinogenic as the stuff people often use (often
benzene-rich). I'm very sensitive to solvents as well
and this stuff is OK for me. The process is
time-consuming, however. You either have the
temperament for it or you don't. It can be tedious and
messy--you're definitely right about that.

Colin

--- Gregory Parkinson  wrote:
> I love printing off of photo plates, but what I
> couldn't
> get into the was the prep and cleanup time for each
> print.  Inking the plate - and then cleaning it for
> the
> next print - was a time-consuming and messy job that
> involved the use of lots of solvents.  I didn't like
> breathing
> that stuff for so long.
> 
> Can you use water-based inks for this process?
> 


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Re: [pinhole-discussion] cheap press for relief printing

2001-09-25 Thread Gregory Parkinson

I love printing off of photo plates, but what I couldn't
get into the was the prep and cleanup time for each
print.  Inking the plate - and then cleaning it for the
next print - was a time-consuming and messy job that
involved the use of lots of solvents.  I didn't like breathing
that stuff for so long.

Can you use water-based inks for this process?


At 12:55 PM -0400 9/25/01, gina wrote:

Dick Blick Art Supplies sells an old fashioned "wringer" type press for less
than $200. Actually, I think it really is just a clothes wringer that they
sell as a press. I bought mine about 10 years ago and it works great for
relief printing, drypoint, monoprints, or anything else you would use an
etching press for.  Its only limitation is the size-the wringers will only
accomodate up to 11" width but the length is not limited.

I clamped it to an old table and use scraps of matboard to support
everything as it "goes through the wringer".  Also used it to make polaroid
transfers when I was too lazy to hand rub them.  :0)

www.dickblick.com


Gina Bellando

http://home.ix.netcom.com/~ginabell/index.html


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[pinhole-discussion] cheap press for relief printing

2001-09-25 Thread gina
Dick Blick Art Supplies sells an old fashioned "wringer" type press for less
than $200. Actually, I think it really is just a clothes wringer that they
sell as a press. I bought mine about 10 years ago and it works great for
relief printing, drypoint, monoprints, or anything else you would use an
etching press for.  Its only limitation is the size-the wringers will only
accomodate up to 11" width but the length is not limited.

I clamped it to an old table and use scraps of matboard to support
everything as it "goes through the wringer".  Also used it to make polaroid
transfers when I was too lazy to hand rub them.  :0)

www.dickblick.com


Gina Bellando

http://home.ix.netcom.com/~ginabell/index.html