Re: [pinhole-discussion] I am so not done wondering!!!!
> Never, never, never, ever be a slave to technology. > > Talk 2 U L8R, > Jasper Taylor > > --- andy schmitt wrote: Jasper, I was a slave to my chemicals last night as I developed some 4x5's in my darkroom. My master controls my weekends and some of my weekday evenings. But my work master pays me money so I can give it to my photo master so he can torture me some more. >> is not!! >> 8*D >> andy Andy Is!! >Silver printed pinholes on the other hand are much harder to control. With >silver if I want each final image to be of the same quality the setup and >recording takes time and effort. It can take me a whole day to produce one >print. With digital it can take me less than one hour (from a silver >negative, that is) and I am assured that every subsequent print will be >identical. If then I want to do some fancy work on the image with digital >it is simple, with silver it is a challenge and time consuming. > >Alexis Alexis And there is another thing I try to avoid, editions. I know it's what photo sales are based on, but I feel even though you can reproduce the same image again and again, you don't have to. Each time I am in the darkroom I am in a different mood, so I am not going to print the same. I never write down the exposure time or the filter or the developing time or any of that stuff. I do what moves me at the time. But at the same time I don't limit myself to an edition of 25. I can print the same negative a thousand times in a thousand different ways to please myself. But I also have never been represented by a gallery or sold a print. Unless you consider the donation print I gave to Visual Aids that sold for $50. And I love time consuming. I have a fear of boredom. Bored is what I am all day at work, so I spend hours writing emails to discussion groups and surfing the web. Lisa
RE: [pinhole-discussion] I am so not done wondering!!!!
Hey all, This is all fascinating! I'm a software developer. I just recently started in my own darkroom. 120 b+w for now. Everyone at work asks me why I didn't go digital. Mainly because I don't want to be a slave to the computer. I also like working with my hands at something other than typing and pushing a mouse around. Do I think digital vs. film is better? No. Use the one that you are comfortable with and are able to spend the funds on. Pinhole is very cheap. The minimum is paper and developing chemicals for that paper. Never, never, never, ever be a slave to technology. Just because it is bigger and newer does not mean you will get better images. That is all up to your talent and experience. Talk 2 U L8R, Jasper Taylor --- andy schmitt wrote: > is not!! > 8*D > andy > > -Original Message- > From: pinhole-discussion-admin@p at ??? > [mailto:pinhole-discussion-admin@p at ???]On > Behalf Of > pinholeren...@netscape.net > Sent: Tuesday, December 10, 2002 7:04 PM > To: pinhole-discussion@p at ??????? > Subject: RE: [pinhole-discussion] I am so not done > wondering > > > Lisa Reddig wrote: > > >Sorry, Sorry, Sorry > > > >You know how it is. Sometimes you just get caught > up in the moment and you > >lose your head and spout off on something everyone > has talked about a > >bazzilion times. It was just my turn this time to > join in. I apologize to > >all those who just hate getting tons of emails they > have to delete. > > > >And may I get on my soapbox again and say every > time there is a discussion > >about > scanners/printers/photoshop/zoneplates/precise > measurements of > >pinholes/reciprocity failure/holga's/diana's/where > to buy a camera/and > other > >very pinhole related things that I care nothing > about, my delete button > gets > >really tired. > > > >We all should just stick our tongues out and say > "my mommy's better than > >your mommy". > > > >The end > > > >Lisa > > > >my pinholes cooler than yours > > > > > >cool > > > > > >___ > >Post to the list as PLAIN TEXT only - no HTML > >Pinhole-Discussion mailing list > >Pinhole-Discussion@p at ??? > >unsubscribe or change your account at > >http://www.???/discussion/ > > > > __ > The NEW Netscape 7.0 browser is now available. > Upgrade now! > http://channels.netscape.com/ns/browsers/download.jsp > > Get your own FREE, personal Netscape Mail account > today at > http://webmail.netscape.com/ > > ___ > Post to the list as PLAIN TEXT only - no HTML > Pinhole-Discussion mailing list > Pinhole-Discussion@p at ??? > unsubscribe or change your account at > http://www.???/discussion/ > > > ___ > Post to the list as PLAIN TEXT only - no HTML > Pinhole-Discussion mailing list > Pinhole-Discussion@p at ??? > unsubscribe or change your account at > http://www.???/discussion/ = "If you can in this life help others, if you can't don't hurt them" Hare Krishna
RE: [pinhole-discussion] I am so not done wondering!!!!
is not!! 8*D andy -Original Message- From: pinhole-discussion-admin@p at ??? [mailto:pinhole-discussion-admin@p at ???]On Behalf Of pinholeren...@netscape.net Sent: Tuesday, December 10, 2002 7:04 PM To: pinhole-discussion@p at ??? Subject: RE: [pinhole-discussion] I am so not done wondering Lisa Reddig wrote: >Sorry, Sorry, Sorry > >You know how it is. Sometimes you just get caught up in the moment and you >lose your head and spout off on something everyone has talked about a >bazzilion times. It was just my turn this time to join in. I apologize to >all those who just hate getting tons of emails they have to delete. > >And may I get on my soapbox again and say every time there is a discussion >about scanners/printers/photoshop/zoneplates/precise measurements of >pinholes/reciprocity failure/holga's/diana's/where to buy a camera/and other >very pinhole related things that I care nothing about, my delete button gets >really tired. > >We all should just stick our tongues out and say "my mommy's better than >your mommy". > >The end > >Lisa > >my pinholes cooler than yours > > >cool > > >___ >Post to the list as PLAIN TEXT only - no HTML >Pinhole-Discussion mailing list >Pinhole-Discussion@p at ??? >unsubscribe or change your account at >http://www.???/discussion/ > __ The NEW Netscape 7.0 browser is now available. Upgrade now! http://channels.netscape.com/ns/browsers/download.jsp Get your own FREE, personal Netscape Mail account today at http://webmail.netscape.com/ ___ Post to the list as PLAIN TEXT only - no HTML Pinhole-Discussion mailing list Pinhole-Discussion@p at ??? unsubscribe or change your account at http://www.???/discussion/
RE: [pinhole-discussion] I am so not done wondering!!!!
Lisa Reddig wrote: >Sorry, Sorry, Sorry > >You know how it is. Sometimes you just get caught up in the moment and you >lose your head and spout off on something everyone has talked about a >bazzilion times. It was just my turn this time to join in. I apologize to >all those who just hate getting tons of emails they have to delete. > >And may I get on my soapbox again and say every time there is a discussion >about scanners/printers/photoshop/zoneplates/precise measurements of >pinholes/reciprocity failure/holga's/diana's/where to buy a camera/and other >very pinhole related things that I care nothing about, my delete button gets >really tired. > >We all should just stick our tongues out and say "my mommy's better than >your mommy". > >The end > >Lisa > >my pinholes cooler than yours > > >cool > > >___ >Post to the list as PLAIN TEXT only - no HTML >Pinhole-Discussion mailing list >Pinhole-Discussion@p at ??? >unsubscribe or change your account at >http://www.???/discussion/ > __ The NEW Netscape 7.0 browser is now available. Upgrade now! http://channels.netscape.com/ns/browsers/download.jsp Get your own FREE, personal Netscape Mail account today at http://webmail.netscape.com/
Re: [pinhole-discussion] I am so not done wondering!!!!
Ok, I get it, digital stuff is just another way of doing it,as for the real question: Is it art? Just kidding people, just kidding :-)
Re: [pinhole-discussion] I am so not done wondering!!!!
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