RE: [pinhole-discussion] road trip
Chris, Thank you. I have the processing part figured out already. Though the film can be processed at a mere 15 ft/min at 85 F, I'd take a more conservative approach. After exposure, I'd cut it into 4x5 pieces and do the old manual process. What I can't figure out is how to measure the film as it travels thru the camera. Here is another camera to use if you get the right sized film. http://cgi.ebay.ca/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=2959477876category=297 Mike -- - Original Message - DATE: Thu, 23 Oct 2003 15:20:05 From: Pinhole Blender ch...@pinholeblender.com To: pinhole-discussion@p at ??? Cc: Mike, A few years back I picked up 75 ft spools of out dated areo film. I thought I would use the cans for pinhole cameras. Now maybe you should look into these spools. It would be easy enough to make a camera like the Beseler pinhole camera but 9 inches tall. For you, you would need to make spools 5 inches tall. Maybe dowels with plywood disks glued to the ends to keep the film together. A slot cut into one end and a hole in all the others for centering and winding. You just have to up size the winding mechanism to take the stress.. The problem will be processing it. It would be best if you had a continuous BW processor or else you could see saw it through the developer. I have too many other cameras to think about, I hope this helps with your own designs. Chris -- Pinhole Blender ch...@pinholeblender.com http://www.pinholeblender.com Original Message Subject: RE: [pinhole-discussion] road trip From: Chrome Dome crd...@lycos.com Date: Thu, October 23, 2003 10:55 am To: pinhole-discussion@p at ??? Chris, It doesn't have to be paper. Black construction rolled sheet plastic appx 3-4 mills should be opaque and ought to work. The paper from 120 roll appears to be .003. My roll is aerial film, Kodak SO-192 5x500'. Perfect for a 4x5. This is something I've fantisized and mused about this for a long time , as I'm sure a number of you have too. If there is interest, let's get together and develope an external holder or internal roll devise. Mike Atwell - Original Message - DATE: Tue, 21 Oct 2003 14:11:29 From: Pinhole Blender ch...@pinholeblender.com To: pinhole-discussion@p at ??? Cc: I have a film back that might take this. Its called a graflex 7x5 roll holder, 1922 model and it took Eastman No. 54 film. A little info on this can be found here, http://www.rit.edu/~andpph/tphs-filmnumbers.html It takes rolls 7 inches wide, don't know how long as I only have a take up spool. Some years ago I purchased some 9 inch areographic copy film for a 6 pinhole camera I was working on that used a 12 inch inner tube to wrap the film around. I wonder what would be the best way to cut this down, and what should I use for backing paper. -- Pinhole Blender ch...@pinholeblender.com http://www.pinholeblender.com Enter for a chance to win one year's supply of allergy relief! http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;6413623;3807821;f?http://mocda3.com/1/c/563632/125699/307982/307982 This offer applies to U.S. Residents Only ___ Post to the list as PLAIN TEXT only - no HTML Pinhole-Discussion mailing list Pinhole-Discussion@p at ??? unsubscribe or change your account at http://www.???/discussion/ ___ Post to the list as PLAIN TEXT only - no HTML Pinhole-Discussion mailing list Pinhole-Discussion@p at ??? unsubscribe or change your account at http://www.???/discussion/ Enter for a chance to win one year's supply of allergy relief! http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;6413623;3807821;f?http://mocda3.com/1/c/563632/125699/307982/307982 This offer applies to U.S. Residents Only
RE: [pinhole-discussion] road trip
I have a film back that might take this. Its called a graflex 7x5 roll holder, 1922 model and it took Eastman No. 54 film. A little info on this can be found here, http://www.rit.edu/~andpph/tphs-filmnumbers.html It takes rolls 7 inches wide, don't know how long as I only have a take up spool. Some years ago I purchased some 9 inch areographic copy film for a 6 pinhole camera I was working on that used a 12 inch inner tube to wrap the film around. I wonder what would be the best way to cut this down, and what should I use for backing paper. -- Pinhole Blender ch...@pinholeblender.com http://www.pinholeblender.com Original Message Subject: Re: [pinhole-discussion] road trip From: Gordon J. Holtslander hol...@duke.usask.ca Date: Tue, October 21, 2003 11:24 am To: pinhole-discussion@p at ??? For the adventurous: How about a camera that uses a roll of my favorite ortho film kodak camera 2000 cgp. Its available in rolls 6 inches wide 200 ft long. You would have to cut shorter pieces of film and make rolls out of these. It doesn't have backing paper - so it wouldn't be as easy as medium format - the camera would have to be loaded in the dark. I don't think it would be too hard to make a large format roll film pinhole camera. You would have to load the roll in the dark or under safelight, but you would be able to make something that can take bunch of pictures. see page 2 of http://www.kpgraphics.com/pdf/info/FilmAndPaperProducts.pdf also available in widths of 10, 12 14 etc to 52 Gord On Sun, 19 Oct 2003, Catherine Just wrote: Hi all, Last year I went to england with a pinhole camera. I must say I love the images, but the actual process wasn't so fun. I enjoyed using the pinhole camera, but didn't like hauling the camera, polaroid back, film holders and the portable changing tent everywhere we went. I brought 5-6 film holders with me and a few boxes for exposed film. At the end of it all it was worth it, but I'm planning another trip and would love to hear any advice on how to make this a lighter load to carry. I thought about getting a pinhole bodycap for a 35mm camera, but I really love using 4x5 film, and polaroid film too. Thanks! Catherine Just = Catherine Just Photography Weddings~Portraits~Fine Art http://www.catherinejust.com 619.294.3195 Don't just state your intent, Live it. ~Jerry Seiner Jr. __ Do you Yahoo!? The New Yahoo! Shopping - with improved product search http://shopping.yahoo.com ___ Post to the list as PLAIN TEXT only - no HTML Pinhole-Discussion mailing list Pinhole-Discussion@p at ??? unsubscribe or change your account at http://www.???/discussion/ - Gordon J. Holtslander Dept. of Biology hol...@duke.usask.ca 112 Science Place http://duke.usask.ca/~holtsg University of Saskatchewan Tel (306) 966-4433Saskatoon, Saskatchewan Fax (306) 966-4461Canada S7N 5E2 - ___ Post to the list as PLAIN TEXT only - no HTML Pinhole-Discussion mailing list Pinhole-Discussion@p at ??? unsubscribe or change your account at http://www.???/discussion/
RE: [pinhole-discussion] road trip
If you apparently have not yet tried 35mm pinhole, chances are that you will not be pleased with the results. I say this because there just isn't much room for definition on such a small piece of film. Of course, that may be what you ar looking for, so you'll need to decide. Making a pinhole cap is pretty simple, so you will definitely want to test things out before going that route. In my mind, you've already got the best of all worlds. If you have been working with 4X5, it is simply a matter of getting a roll back for the camera so that you can use 120 film. A 6X7 back will probably be most affordable, as 6X9 backs are not as readily available and will be more expensive (if anyone knows of an inexpensive 6X9 back that is available, I might be interested). This alternative gives you the flexibility of shooting and reloading in the field, as well as switching to 4X5 when the need arises. Cheers - george - http://www.GLSmyth.com http://DRiPInvesting.org --- On Sun 10/19, Catherine Just blue_medic...@yahoo.com wrote: From: Catherine Just [mailto: blue_medic...@yahoo.com] To: pinhole-discussion@p at ??? List-Post: pinhole-discussion@pinhole.com Date: Sun, 19 Oct 2003 13:12:14 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [pinhole-discussion] road trip Hi all,brbrLast year I went to england with a pinhole camera. Ibrmust say I love the images, but the actual processbrwasn't so fun.brbrI enjoyed using the pinhole camera, but didn't likebrhauling the camera, polaroid back, film holders andbrthe portable changing tent everywhere we went. Ibrbrought 5-6 film holders with me and a few boxes forbrexposed film. At the end of it all it was worth it,brbut I'm planning another trip and would love to hearbrany advice on how to make this a lighter load tobrcarry.brbrI thought about getting a pinhole bodycap for a 35mmbrcamera, but I really love using 4x5 film, and polaroidbrfilm too.brbrThanks!brbrCatherine Justbrbr=brCatherine Just PhotographybrWeddings~Portraits~Fine Artbrhttp://www.catherinejust.combr619.294.3195brbrbrDon't just state your intent, Live it. ~Jerry Seiner Jr.brbr__brDo you Yahoo!?brThe New Yahoo! Shopping - with improved product searchbrhttp://shopping.yahoo.combrbr___brPost to the list as PLAIN TEXT only - no HTML brPinhole-Discussion mailing listbrPinhole-Discussion@p at ???brunsubscribe or change your account atbrhttp://www.???/discussion/br ___ No banners. No pop-ups. No kidding. Introducing My Way - http://www.myway.com
Re: [pinhole-discussion] road trip
Well, if you want to go light, you can't beat converting a small 35mm premium camera into a pinhole -- easy to carry, film processing available anywhere, and yah, you can enlarge those tiny negs later. A better compromise, since you like the large negs, might be a converted-to-pinhole 120 folder with one of the larger rectangular film formats -- 6x9 cm is a decent subset of the 4x5 negative size, and the cameras are a lot smaller/cheaper/lighter than the 4x5... I think my Agfa Billy Record takes 120 film in 6x9 format (I can't put my hands on mine at the moment) and I got it for about $10. If you want to do polaroid, you could convert one of the ubiquitous pack film cameras (foldinig or solid body, although the folding ones approach a small 4x5 in size and weight...) -- I've got a polaroid colorpack I left the shutter on, but replaced the lens with a (largish) pinhole -- now if I use ASA 3000 film, I've got a handheld pinhole camera. Anyway, just a thought. I've been playing with 4x5 myself, and it sure is *ahem* more to carry. -- pw --- Catherine Just blue_medic...@yahoo.com wrote: Hi all, Last year I went to england with a pinhole camera. I must say I love the images, but the actual process wasn't so fun. ..snip.. I thought about getting a pinhole bodycap for a 35mm camera, but I really love using 4x5 film, and polaroid film too. Thanks! Catherine Just = Catherine Just Photography Weddings~Portraits~Fine Art http://www.catherinejust.com 619.294.3195 Don't just state your intent, Live it. ~Jerry Seiner Jr. __ Do you Yahoo!? The New Yahoo! Shopping - with improved product search http://shopping.yahoo.com ___ Post to the list as PLAIN TEXT only - no HTML Pinhole-Discussion mailing list Pinhole-Discussion@p at ??? unsubscribe or change your account at http://www.???/discussion/ __ Do you Yahoo!? The New Yahoo! Shopping - with improved product search http://shopping.yahoo.com
Re: [pinhole-discussion] road trip
Catherine Just wrote: Hi all, Last year I went to england with a pinhole camera. I must say I love the images, but the actual process wasn't so fun. I enjoyed using the pinhole camera, but didn't like hauling the camera, polaroid back, film holders and the portable changing tent everywhere we went. I brought 5-6 film holders with me and a few boxes for exposed film. At the end of it all it was worth it, but I'm planning another trip and would love to hear any advice on how to make this a lighter load to carry. I thought about getting a pinhole bodycap for a 35mm camera, but I really love using 4x5 film, and polaroid film too. Thanks! Catherine Just A good compromise between 4x5 film and 35 mm is an old 120 folding camera or one of the Toy camera's like the Holga but in the meantime the Holga gets rather a cult status Taco
