[KDE Bugtracking System] REMINDER: current Plasma regressions

2012-06-14 Thread bugzilla_noreply
Please find below a list of the current regressions reported for Plasma

  This search was scheduled by myr...@kde.org.


Plasma regressions
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Bug 283626:
  https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=283626
  Priority: NOR  Severity: crash  Platform: openSUSE RPMs
  Assignee: plasma-b...@kde.org
Status: NEW
   Summary: plasma-desktop crashes when Adding Widget while ActivityManager is 
visible [@  ActivityManager::setLocation]
Bug 290828:
  https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=290828
  Priority: NOR  Severity: normal  Platform: Archlinux Packages
  Assignee: plasma-b...@kde.org
Status: NEW
   Summary: Widget selections scrolling broken
Bug 296117:
  https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=296117
  Priority: NOR  Severity: minor  Platform: Other
  Assignee: plasma-b...@kde.org
Status: REOPENED
   Summary: New Add Widgets dialog does not respect fractional font sizes
Bug 297842:
  https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=297842
  Priority: NOR  Severity: normal  Platform: Other
  Assignee: plasma-b...@kde.org
Status: NEW
   Summary: Navigating the list with the keyboard when a search filter is 
entered
Bug 300885:
  https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=300885
  Priority: NOR  Severity: critical  Platform: Ubuntu Packages
  Assignee: plasma-b...@kde.org
Status: NEW
   Summary: Weather widget does not work anymore with bbcuk or wetter.com 
provider
Bug 301424:
  https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=301424
  Priority: NOR  Severity: normal  Platform: openSUSE RPMs
  Assignee: plasma-b...@kde.org
Status: NEW
   Summary: Cannot open battery monitor applet if set to hidden in systray
Bug 301460:
  https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=301460
  Priority: NOR  Severity: normal  Platform: Other
  Assignee: plasma-b...@kde.org
Status: NEW
   Summary: Switching activities became really slow
Bug 301533:
  https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=301533
  Priority: NOR  Severity: normal  Platform: Other
  Assignee: plasma-b...@kde.org
Status: NEW
   Summary: Option Show Multiple Batteries does nothing
Bug 301656:
  https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=301656
  Priority: NOR  Severity: normal  Platform: Other
  Assignee: plasma-b...@kde.org
Status: NEW
   Summary: Installed widgets are not marked as such anymore
Bug 301815:
  https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=301815
  Priority: NOR  Severity: normal  Platform: Ubuntu Packages
  Assignee: plasma-b...@kde.org
Status: NEW
   Summary: Plasma widget battery: option to display information on the battery 
icon has disappeared


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Re: Quality Team: LCD weather station and calendar (in panel) are really broken

2012-06-14 Thread Aaron J. Seigo
On Wednesday, June 13, 2012 18:23:47 Luís Gabriel wrote:
 Hi,

 I'm currently working on the QML port of LCD Weather Station as a GSoC
 project and I'm also identified this problem with some weather providers.
 I think we should add some information (a flag, maybe) in the data engine
 to indicate if the weather condition data is available or not and filter
 the providers in the applet side.
 What do you guys think? It would be enough for now?

+1

and then the BBC UK MET provider should be fixed :)

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Re: Review Request: Plasmate: when Enable signing plasmoid is enabled, automatically choose a key

2012-06-14 Thread Aaron J. Seigo

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Ship it!


Ship It!

- Aaron J. Seigo


On June 12, 2012, 11:44 a.m., Giorgos Tsiapaliwkas wrote:
 
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 (Updated June 12, 2012, 11:44 a.m.)
 
 
 Review request for Plasma, Sebastian Kügler and Aaron J. Seigo.
 
 
 Description
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 Hello,
 
 right now when Enable signing plasmoid is enabled if the user doesn't 
 choose a gpg key,
 plasmate won't have a key enabled. So Enable signing plasmoid, will be 
 enabled but no signing will
 happen. 
 
 How to test the issue,
 - rm ${KDEHOME}/share/config/plasmaterc
 -create a gpg key(gpg --gen-key)
 -open plasmate
 -click publisher
 -click enable
 
 
 Diffs
 -
 
   publisher/signingwidget.h 501752e 
   publisher/signingwidget.cpp e63dbbd 
 
 Diff: http://git.reviewboard.kde.org/r/105074/diff/
 
 
 Testing
 ---
 
 It works.
 
 
 Thanks,
 
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Re: Review Request: Plasmate: request to merge terietor/remoteinstaller to master

2012-06-14 Thread Aaron J. Seigo

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getting closer :)


publisher/publisher.cpp
http://git.reviewboard.kde.org/r/105032/#comment11620

this code is duplicated by different install methods in this class. as it 
includes string literals for config keys and groups, this makes it brittle for 
long term maintenance.

consider moving it to a separate private method in this class e.g. QString 
currentPackagePath() const



publisher/publisher.cpp
http://git.reviewboard.kde.org/r/105032/#comment11621

this is an implementation detail of RemoteInstaller and as such it should 
be encapsulated in that class, not here.

in fact, it looks like the metadata.desktop filename gets dropped in 
RemoteInstaller anyway.

so this should be made to work without metadata.desktop being appended.



publisher/remoteinstaller/remoteinstaller.cpp
http://git.reviewboard.kde.org/r/105032/#comment11625

const bool ok



publisher/remoteinstaller/remoteinstaller.cpp
http://git.reviewboard.kde.org/r/105032/#comment11623

on error, this should probably stop the process, preventing doInstall() 
from being called.

this is most easily done by making doInstall private, calling doInstall at 
the end of the constructor and returning early from the constructor when the 
temp url creation fails.



publisher/remoteinstaller/remoteinstaller.cpp
http://git.reviewboard.kde.org/r/105032/#comment11624

this error needs to be caught in doPlasmaPkg. it is an async job, so the 
error may not happen until doPlasmaPkg.



publisher/remoteinstaller/remoteinstallerdialog.cpp
http://git.reviewboard.kde.org/r/105032/#comment11622

doInstall should simply be called from the RemoteInstall object.


- Aaron J. Seigo


On June 12, 2012, 12:10 p.m., Giorgos Tsiapaliwkas wrote:
 
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 (Updated June 12, 2012, 12:10 p.m.)
 
 
 Review request for Plasma.
 
 
 Description
 ---
 
 Hello,
 
 in terietor/remoteinstaller I have create a remote installer.
 The goal is to install the projects remotely to another computer.
 
 You access the remote install either inside plasmate or using the 
 plasmaremoteinstaller binary.
 
 
 Diffs
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   CMakeLists.txt 12f8a3a 
   publisher/publisher.h 5f40ae0 
   publisher/publisher.cpp fd87364 
   publisher/remoteinstaller/remoteinstaller.h PRE-CREATION 
   publisher/remoteinstaller/remoteinstaller.cpp PRE-CREATION 
   publisher/remoteinstaller/remoteinstaller.ui PRE-CREATION 
   publisher/remoteinstaller/remoteinstallerdialog.h PRE-CREATION 
   publisher/remoteinstaller/remoteinstallerdialog.cpp PRE-CREATION 
   publisher/remoteinstaller/standalone/main.cpp PRE-CREATION 
   publisher/remoteinstaller/standalone/plasmaremoteinstaller.h PRE-CREATION 
   publisher/remoteinstaller/standalone/plasmaremoteinstaller.cpp PRE-CREATION 
 
 Diff: http://git.reviewboard.kde.org/r/105032/diff/
 
 
 Testing
 ---
 
 I couldn't find any bugs in the remote installer, but the proccess fails 
 during KIO::copy.
 Apparently I am not writing correct something in the fish protocol.
 Right now the remote installer tries to do the above
 
 KIO::copy(/home/terietor/.kde4/share/apps/plasmate/project, 
 fish://user@ip/home/user)
 
 but it fails
 
 
 Thanks,
 
 Giorgos Tsiapaliwkas
 


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Re: Review Request: Fix the minimum size of some applets

2012-06-14 Thread Aaron J. Seigo

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applets MUST be scalable down to smaller sizes, otherwise they break in small 
spaces such as panels. setting a minimum size in this fashion does not work as 
a result.


applets/pastebin/pastebin.cpp
http://git.reviewboard.kde.org/r/105234/#comment11628

minimumSize needs to be reset here, otherwise it won't fit in panels 
smaller than the min size set below



applets/pastebin/pastebin.cpp
http://git.reviewboard.kde.org/r/105234/#comment11629

why 33?



applets/showdashboard/showdashboard.cpp
http://git.reviewboard.kde.org/r/105234/#comment11630

why 22?



applets/systemloadviewer/systemloadviewer.cpp
http://git.reviewboard.kde.org/r/105234/#comment11627

incorrect indentation



applets/timer/timer.cpp
http://git.reviewboard.kde.org/r/105234/#comment11631

this will break it in smaller panels.



applets/weatherstation/weatherstation.cpp
http://git.reviewboard.kde.org/r/105234/#comment11632

breaks in smaller panels.


- Aaron J. Seigo


On June 13, 2012, 7:19 p.m., Maarten De Meyer wrote:
 
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 (Updated June 13, 2012, 7:19 p.m.)
 
 
 Review request for Plasma.
 
 
 Description
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 This fixes the minimum size of the following applets: showdashboard, 
 systemloadviewer, pastebin, weatherstation and timer.
 Some sizes were to small, so there were visual glitches and some applets had 
 no minimum value set.
 
 I have no commit rights.
 
 
 Diffs
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   applets/pastebin/pastebin.cpp 208e6a3 
   applets/showdashboard/showdashboard.cpp 1c2f623 
   applets/systemloadviewer/systemloadviewer.cpp b852256 
   applets/timer/timer.cpp ba5ee66 
   applets/weatherstation/weatherstation.cpp 8ada9c2 
 
 Diff: http://git.reviewboard.kde.org/r/105234/diff/
 
 
 Testing
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 Run the applets with their new minimum size, and minimized.
 
 
 Thanks,
 
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Re: Quality Team: LCD weather station and calendar (in panel) are really broken

2012-06-14 Thread Anne-Marie Mahfouf

On 06/14/2012 12:10 PM, Aaron J. Seigo wrote:

On Wednesday, June 13, 2012 18:23:47 Luís Gabriel wrote:

Hi,

I'm currently working on the QML port of LCD Weather Station as a GSoC
project and I'm also identified this problem with some weather providers.
I think we should add some information (a flag, maybe) in the data engine
to indicate if the weather condition data is available or not and filter
the providers in the applet side.
What do you guys think? It would be enough for now?

+1

and then the BBC UK MET provider should be fixed :)
You misread the Quality Team mail: we are asking for the LCD Weather 
Station Applet to be fixed for 4.9 or removed. A QML port will not solve 
any problem for 4.9 as this QML port will not happen for 4.9.


Luís, as you are poring  to QML(thank you) I invite you to test the port 
thoroughly as QML ports had a few regressions. See 
http://community.kde.org/Getinvolved/Testing/Beta/Plasma#Generic_Plasmoid_Check_List 
for basic tests that must pass.


Aaron, Plasma-team: what about the 4.9 release for which the port is not 
involved?


Anne-Marie
Speaking for the Quality Team



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Re: Quality Team: LCD weather station and calendar (in panel) are really broken

2012-06-14 Thread Aaron J. Seigo
On Thursday, June 14, 2012 13:15:34 Anne-Marie Mahfouf wrote:
 You misread the Quality Team mail: we are asking for the LCD Weather
 Station Applet to be fixed for 4.9 or removed. 

i misread nothing. the request for it to be removed is denied.

if you consider for a moment what this would do to people's otherwise working 
installations, not to mention what it would mean for future incentive to fix 
it, the reason for this should become evident.


p.s. i'm very happy that we have a more active Q/A team. i am not happy with 
how it is sometimes handling issues. there was a commit reverted the other day 
without checking with the original commiter nor the maintainer of the applet 
or module which should never have been reverted. fortunately i was on irc and 
watching commits that day. now we have a no, remove it statement which does 
not fit the way we develop in plasma, which is:

* as a team
* with communication

i'm sure the QA team can improve over time so that we can all work together 
better. thanks ...

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Re: Quality Team: LCD weather station and calendar (in panel) are really broken

2012-06-14 Thread Aaron J. Seigo
On Wednesday, June 13, 2012 22:31:36 Anne-Marie Mahfouf wrote:
 Another applet is in bad shape as well: the Calendar applet when placed
 in panel. The date does not update when the day changes and the layout
 is totally broken making the calendar not readable. See

these issues are fixed.

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Re: Quality Team: LCD weather station and calendar (in panel) are really broken

2012-06-14 Thread Anne-Marie Mahfouf

On 06/14/2012 01:52 PM, Aaron J. Seigo wrote:

On Thursday, June 14, 2012 13:15:34 Anne-Marie Mahfouf wrote:

You misread the Quality Team mail: we are asking for the LCD Weather
Station Applet to be fixed for 4.9 or removed.

i misread nothing. the request for it to be removed is denied.

if you consider for a moment what this would do to people's otherwise working
installations, not to mention what it would mean for future incentive to fix
it, the reason for this should become evident.


p.s. i'm very happy that we have a more active Q/A team. i am not happy with
how it is sometimes handling issues. there was a commit reverted the other day
without checking with the original commiter nor the maintainer of the applet
or module which should never have been reverted. fortunately i was on irc and
watching commits that day. now we have a no, remove it statement which does
not fit the way we develop in plasma, which is:

* as a team
* with communication

i'm sure the QA team can improve over time so that we can all work together
better. thanks ...
The reverted commit was me, annma, not the Quality Team, following a 
user report and my tests. Do not mix me and the Quality Team, thanks.

I apologize publicly for reverted your commit.

As for the QA Team, I am not sure how you would like us to communicate 
better.


Anne-Marie

PS: the communication worked as you were aware of the Calendar problems 
and fixed them.


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Re: Quality Team: LCD weather station and calendar (in panel) are really broken

2012-06-14 Thread David Edmundson
On Thu, Jun 14, 2012 at 12:52 PM, Aaron J. Seigo ase...@kde.org wrote:
 On Thursday, June 14, 2012 13:15:34 Anne-Marie Mahfouf wrote:
 You misread the Quality Team mail: we are asking for the LCD Weather
 Station Applet to be fixed for 4.9 or removed.

 i misread nothing. the request for it to be removed is denied.

 if you consider for a moment what this would do to people's otherwise working
 installations, not to mention what it would mean for future incentive to fix
 it, the reason for this should become evident.


 p.s. i'm very happy that we have a more active Q/A team. i am not happy with
 how it is sometimes handling issues. there was a commit reverted the other day
 without checking with the original commiter nor the maintainer of the applet
 or module which should never have been reverted. fortunately i was on irc and
 watching commits that day. now we have a no, remove it statement which does
 not fit the way we develop in plasma, which is:

 * as a team
 * with communication


 i'm sure the QA team can improve over time so that we can all work together
 better. thanks ...

For communication between two teams to get better both teams need to improve.

Plasma does not communicate as well as you imply, speaking as a person
who is trying to get involved in Plasma and help fix things, there is
so much resistance. Reviews are slow, replies on maliing lists (such
as this one) can be very condescending instantly blaming an entire
team for a lack of communication and most ML threads seem to derail
into arguments.

Have you discussed the weather LCD applet with the team before denying
the request. I've not seen anything? Either you haven't, and have just
decided on behalf of your entire team which isn't a good example of
communication, or there's a communication channel which doesn't
include me...which again isn't a good example of good inclusive
communication.

The real reason this happened this sort of things happens is because
Plasma does not have an attitude of everyone doing reviews. Everyone
will just follow the example set by everyone else. It's the perfect
way of increasing communication between everyone so we all know what's
going on. Especially once we've entered such a beta phase.

David Edmundson

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Re: Quality Team: LCD weather station and calendar (in panel) are really broken

2012-06-14 Thread Mark
On Thu, Jun 14, 2012 at 5:58 PM, David Edmundson da...@davidedmundson.co.uk
 wrote:

 On Thu, Jun 14, 2012 at 12:52 PM, Aaron J. Seigo ase...@kde.org wrote:
  On Thursday, June 14, 2012 13:15:34 Anne-Marie Mahfouf wrote:
  You misread the Quality Team mail: we are asking for the LCD Weather
  Station Applet to be fixed for 4.9 or removed.
 
  i misread nothing. the request for it to be removed is denied.
 
  if you consider for a moment what this would do to people's otherwise
 working
  installations, not to mention what it would mean for future incentive to
 fix
  it, the reason for this should become evident.
 
 
  p.s. i'm very happy that we have a more active Q/A team. i am not happy
 with
  how it is sometimes handling issues. there was a commit reverted the
 other day
  without checking with the original commiter nor the maintainer of the
 applet
  or module which should never have been reverted. fortunately i was on
 irc and
  watching commits that day. now we have a no, remove it statement which
 does
  not fit the way we develop in plasma, which is:
 
  * as a team
  * with communication
 
 
  i'm sure the QA team can improve over time so that we can all work
 together
  better. thanks ...
 
 For communication between two teams to get better both teams need to
 improve.

 Plasma does not communicate as well as you imply, speaking as a person
 who is trying to get involved in Plasma and help fix things, there is
 so much resistance. Reviews are slow, replies on maliing lists (such
 as this one) can be very condescending instantly blaming an entire
 team for a lack of communication and most ML threads seem to derail
 into arguments.

 Have you discussed the weather LCD applet with the team before denying
 the request. I've not seen anything? Either you haven't, and have just
 decided on behalf of your entire team which isn't a good example of
 communication, or there's a communication channel which doesn't
 include me...which again isn't a good example of good inclusive
 communication.

 The real reason this happened this sort of things happens is because
 Plasma does not have an attitude of everyone doing reviews. Everyone
 will just follow the example set by everyone else. It's the perfect
 way of increasing communication between everyone so we all know what's
 going on. Especially once we've entered such a beta phase.

 David Edmundson

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Just a FYI, http://www.wunderground.com/weather/api/ seems to be free and
decent as well.
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Re: Review Request: Plasm qml-components: also highlight the dualstate button on keyboard-focus

2012-06-14 Thread Aaron J. Seigo

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plasma/declarativeimports/plasmacomponents/qml/private/DualStateButton.qml
http://git.reviewboard.kde.org/r/105232/#comment11626

loos like this will work but i dislike how shadowLoader.state is being set 
all over the place in a rather procedural manner. much nicer imho would be sth 
like:

Loader {
id: shadowLoader
anchors.fill: surfaceLoader
state: (duableButton.enabled  dualButton.focus) ? hover : shadow
}

and then do the right thing in Keys.onSpacePressed, Keys.onReturnPressed, 
etc.

this would also get rid of the entered() function and maybe even clean up 
the MouseArea below as well.

to me this would just feel more QML

Marco: what do you think?


- Aaron J. Seigo


On June 12, 2012, 10:25 p.m., Johannes Tröscher wrote:
 
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 (Updated June 12, 2012, 10:25 p.m.)
 
 
 Review request for Plasma.
 
 
 Description
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 this will enable the highlight on a dualstatebutton (like a checkbox) also if 
 the button has keyboardfocus.
 
 
 Diffs
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   plasma/declarativeimports/plasmacomponents/qml/private/DualStateButton.qml 
 1579e88 
 
 Diff: http://git.reviewboard.kde.org/r/105232/diff/
 
 
 Testing
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 tested, works
 
 
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Re: Review Request: Plasmate: request to merge terietor/remoteinstaller to master

2012-06-14 Thread Giorgos Tsiapaliwkas

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Review request for Plasma.


Changes
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I fixed the issues.

Also I merged master into terietor/remoteinstaller and I modified 
plasmate/CMakeLists.txt
in order to have a new cmakelists


Description
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Hello,

in terietor/remoteinstaller I have create a remote installer.
The goal is to install the projects remotely to another computer.

You access the remote install either inside plasmate or using the 
plasmaremoteinstaller binary.


Diffs (updated)
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  CMakeLists.txt cd9fb1c 
  publisher/publisher.h 5f40ae0 
  publisher/publisher.cpp 4855e49 
  publisher/remoteinstaller/remoteinstaller.h PRE-CREATION 
  publisher/remoteinstaller/remoteinstaller.cpp PRE-CREATION 
  publisher/remoteinstaller/remoteinstaller.ui PRE-CREATION 
  publisher/remoteinstaller/remoteinstallerdialog.h PRE-CREATION 
  publisher/remoteinstaller/remoteinstallerdialog.cpp PRE-CREATION 
  publisher/remoteinstaller/standalone/main.cpp PRE-CREATION 
  publisher/remoteinstaller/standalone/plasmaremoteinstaller.h PRE-CREATION 
  publisher/remoteinstaller/standalone/plasmaremoteinstaller.cpp PRE-CREATION 

Diff: http://git.reviewboard.kde.org/r/105032/diff/


Testing
---

I couldn't find any bugs in the remote installer, but the proccess fails during 
KIO::copy.
Apparently I am not writing correct something in the fish protocol.
Right now the remote installer tries to do the above

KIO::copy(/home/terietor/.kde4/share/apps/plasmate/project, 
fish://user@ip/home/user)

but it fails


Thanks,

Giorgos Tsiapaliwkas

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Re: Quality Team: LCD weather station and calendar (in panel) are really broken

2012-06-14 Thread Aaron J. Seigo
On Thursday, June 14, 2012 16:58:55 David Edmundson wrote:
 so much resistance. Reviews are slow,

often they happen the same day, sometimes they don't. i would like them to be
faster as well. when i keep on top of them and do the reviewing myself, it is
fast. when i don't ... well ..

 replies on maliing lists (such
 as this one) can be very condescending instantly blaming an entire
 team for a lack of communication and most ML threads seem to derail
 into arguments.

this has only been the case since a recent expansion of the project happened
and new people joined in. this has not been the status quo for the last few
years, and it is not enjoyable for anyone.

 Have you discussed the weather LCD applet with the team before denying
 the request.

yes, on this very list. Luís Gabriel suggested a solution, as someone who is
working on what may well be the next revision of the weather applet (done this
time with QML). i agreed that solution would work. it was then implied that
this was not acceptable, and we really should just do what the QA team says.
this is completely unnacceptable.

as for decision making authority, in KDE that is the maintainer.

the author of the weather dataengine is currently unavailable, and in lieu of
them being here, then the maintainership falls on my shoulders.

i also happen to be the module maintainer for the repository this component is
in.

this is the standard way of doing things, and it works if people respect that.
i find it disapointing that i need to somehow defend that i am allowed to make
decisions over code that i maintain.

 I've not seen anything? Either you haven't, and have just
 decided on behalf of your entire team which isn't a good example of
 communication, or there's a communication channel which doesn't
 include me...which again isn't a good example of good inclusive
 communication.

you will notice that Ben answered first. then Luís, with a possible solution.
then i replied to Luís. what other discussion in the open are you expecting?

 The real reason this happened this sort of things happens is because
 Plasma does not have an attitude of everyone doing reviews. Everyone

i'm not sure what you are saying here. i can read this a few different ways,
but i can't relate it to the topic of the LCD widget or communication on this
list.

are you refering to the commit that was reverted? could you explain what you
mean by the above a bit more so i can respond accurately? thanks.

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Re: Quality Team: LCD weather station and calendar (in panel) are really broken

2012-06-14 Thread Aaron J. Seigo
On Thursday, June 14, 2012 20:17:40 Mark wrote:
 Just a FYI, http://www.wunderground.com/weather/api/ seems to be free and
 decent as well.

unfortunately, unless someone pays for the service we are limited to 500 calls 
per day. we'll hit that pretty quickly, and would then need to pay for the 
service. that's a bit of a blocker for code we are distributing as free 
software. :)

the norwegian weather service looks like quite a good possibility:

http://om.yr.no/verdata/free-weather-data/

someone needs to write the code in either case of course :)

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Re: Review Request: Plasmate: request to merge terietor/remoteinstaller to master

2012-06-14 Thread Aaron J. Seigo

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Ship it!


Ship It!

- Aaron J. Seigo


On June 14, 2012, 6:31 p.m., Giorgos Tsiapaliwkas wrote:
 
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 Review request for Plasma.
 
 
 Description
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 Hello,
 
 in terietor/remoteinstaller I have create a remote installer.
 The goal is to install the projects remotely to another computer.
 
 You access the remote install either inside plasmate or using the 
 plasmaremoteinstaller binary.
 
 
 Diffs
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   CMakeLists.txt cd9fb1c 
   publisher/publisher.h 5f40ae0 
   publisher/publisher.cpp 4855e49 
   publisher/remoteinstaller/remoteinstaller.h PRE-CREATION 
   publisher/remoteinstaller/remoteinstaller.cpp PRE-CREATION 
   publisher/remoteinstaller/remoteinstaller.ui PRE-CREATION 
   publisher/remoteinstaller/remoteinstallerdialog.h PRE-CREATION 
   publisher/remoteinstaller/remoteinstallerdialog.cpp PRE-CREATION 
   publisher/remoteinstaller/standalone/main.cpp PRE-CREATION 
   publisher/remoteinstaller/standalone/plasmaremoteinstaller.h PRE-CREATION 
   publisher/remoteinstaller/standalone/plasmaremoteinstaller.cpp PRE-CREATION 
 
 Diff: http://git.reviewboard.kde.org/r/105032/diff/
 
 
 Testing
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 I couldn't find any bugs in the remote installer, but the proccess fails 
 during KIO::copy.
 Apparently I am not writing correct something in the fish protocol.
 Right now the remote installer tries to do the above
 
 KIO::copy(/home/terietor/.kde4/share/apps/plasmate/project, 
 fish://user@ip/home/user)
 
 but it fails
 
 
 Thanks,
 
 Giorgos Tsiapaliwkas
 


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Re: Review Request: fix callback race in the session saving and shutdown code

2012-06-14 Thread Aaron J. Seigo

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i am not overly familiar with this exact bit of code, but it seems to have been 
working on my system just fine since the patch was posted.

- Aaron J. Seigo


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 Review request for Plasma.
 
 
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 This patch tries to a fix a race in the session saving and shutdown code of 
 ksmserver.
 The race may happen on wmPhase1WaitingCount variable when WM-type clients are 
 fast enough to complete their save requests while the loop in 
 KSMServer::shutdown is still iterating.  As a result wmPhase1WaitingCount may 
 become zero too early and that would kick off the next save/shutdown phase in 
 a client's callback.  In fact, it might even go multiple times from zero to 
 non-zero and back during the WM-specific loop.
 
 
 This addresses bug 206511.
 http://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=206511
 
 
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   ksmserver/shutdown.cpp a5a1ef9 
 
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Re: Quality Team: LCD weather station and calendar (in panel) are really broken

2012-06-14 Thread Mark
On Thu, Jun 14, 2012 at 8:39 PM, Aaron J. Seigo ase...@kde.org wrote:

 On Thursday, June 14, 2012 20:17:40 Mark wrote:
  Just a FYI, http://www.wunderground.com/weather/api/ seems to be free
 and
  decent as well.

 unfortunately, unless someone pays for the service we are limited to 500
 calls
 per day. we'll hit that pretty quickly, and would then need to pay for the
 service. that's a bit of a blocker for code we are distributing as free
 software. :)


yeah, tricky. That kind of data should just be free :)


 the norwegian weather service looks like quite a good possibility:

http://om.yr.no/verdata/free-weather-data/

 someone needs to write the code in either case of course :)


Ahh, you try it again :p
This time it's a NO! :)
Once the tooltip thing is done (reminds me that i need to work on it
again), i will take up the next thing.
The next thing is probably going to be the unification of shortcuts used
throughout KDE applications.


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Re: Quality Team: LCD weather station and calendar (in panel) are really broken

2012-06-14 Thread David Edmundson
On Thu, Jun 14, 2012 at 7:31 PM, Aaron J. Seigo ase...@kde.org wrote:
 On Thursday, June 14, 2012 16:58:55 David Edmundson wrote:
 so much resistance. Reviews are slow,

 often they happen the same day, sometimes they don't. i would like them to be
 faster as well. when i keep on top of them and do the reviewing myself, it is
 fast. when i don't ... well ..

On the topic of reviews, I consider it's a problem (not your fault)
that they all seem to fall to you or Marco. For reviews to work,
everyone from the most beginner GSOC students to the most advanced
developers need to be doing them even if not everyone hits ship it,
I've been trying to help with this on reviews I feel I'm getting to
know the code, but it's a culture change to make this happen more
regularly.


 replies on maliing lists (such
 as this one) can be very condescending instantly blaming an entire
 team for a lack of communication and most ML threads seem to derail
 into arguments.

 this has only been the case since a recent expansion of the project happened
 and new people joined in. this has not been the status quo for the last few
 years, and it is not enjoyable for anyone.

 Have you discussed the weather LCD applet with the team before denying
 the request.

 yes, on this very list. Luís Gabriel suggested a solution, as someone who is
 working on what may well be the next revision of the weather applet (done this
 time with QML). i agreed that solution would work. it was then implied that
 this was not acceptable, and we really should just do what the QA team says.
 this is completely unnacceptable.

No-one is saying that you should do always do what the QA team says,
the thread was re-opened with this doesn't fix the issue for 4.9, we
still need to do something.


 as for decision making authority, in KDE that is the maintainer.

 the author of the weather dataengine is currently unavailable, and in lieu of
 them being here, then the maintainership falls on my shoulders.

 i also happen to be the module maintainer for the repository this component is
 in.

 this is the standard way of doing things, and it works if people respect that.
 i find it disapointing that i need to somehow defend that i am allowed to make
 decisions over code that i maintain.

We also shouldn't  take your word blindly without discussion simply
because you're the maintainer.

You have the final say, and none of us would change the code without
permission, but this doesn't make the first decision you make always
instantly right. You can't honestly say you've never argued with a
maintainer of another component because you've strongly believed you
were correct on how to make KDE better.

 I've not seen anything? Either you haven't, and have just
 decided on behalf of your entire team which isn't a good example of
 communication, or there's a communication channel which doesn't
 include me...which again isn't a good example of good inclusive
 communication.

 you will notice that Ben answered first. then Luís, with a possible solution.
 then i replied to Luís. what other discussion in the open are you expecting?

 The real reason this happened this sort of things happens is because
 Plasma does not have an attitude of everyone doing reviews. Everyone

 i'm not sure what you are saying here. i can read this a few different ways,
 but i can't relate it to the topic of the LCD widget or communication on this
 list.

 are you refering to the commit that was reverted? could you explain what you
 mean by the above a bit more so i can respond accurately? thanks.


The review part was referring to the reverted commit. (sorry for the confusion)

If Anna had submitted a review request before reverting all would have
been handled gracefully without any problems. However, we can't only
say in retrospect of a bad commit you should have had this reviewed
if we don't do it on every other commit. Trying to move the
conversation from this was bad to this is how we can make things
better in future.

Regards

Dave

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Re: Quality Team: LCD weather station and calendar (in panel) are really broken

2012-06-14 Thread Anne-Marie Mahfouf

On 06/14/2012 08:31 PM, Aaron J. Seigo wrote:

On Thursday, June 14, 2012 16:58:55 David Edmundson wrote:

so much resistance. Reviews are slow,

often they happen the same day, sometimes they don't. i would like them to be
faster as well. when i keep on top of them and do the reviewing myself, it is
fast. when i don't ... well ..


replies on maliing lists (such
as this one) can be very condescending instantly blaming an entire
team for a lack of communication and most ML threads seem to derail
into arguments.

this has only been the case since a recent expansion of the project happened
and new people joined in. this has not been the status quo for the last few
years, and it is not enjoyable for anyone.


Have you discussed the weather LCD applet with the team before denying
the request.

yes, on this very list. Luís Gabriel suggested a solution, as someone who is
working on what may well be the next revision of the weather applet (done this
time with QML). i agreed that solution would work. it was then implied that
this was not acceptable, and we really should just do what the QA team says.
this is completely unnacceptable.

as for decision making authority, in KDE that is the maintainer.

the author of the weather dataengine is currently unavailable, and in lieu of
them being here, then the maintainership falls on my shoulders.

i also happen to be the module maintainer for the repository this component is
in.

this is the standard way of doing things, and it works if people respect that.
i find it disapointing that i need to somehow defend that i am allowed to make
decisions over code that i maintain.

Nobody said you had to do this or that. The QA team makes suggestions, 
you of course have the final say.

Thanks for fixing Calendar!

Again I apologize for the reverted commit (I CCed you so you were 
informed instantly), this had nothing to do with the current discussion 
and should not have been brought into it, it was just a bad handling of 
my part (which is not a behavior I usually have). It happens to make 
errors and we (quite enthusiastically) debugged this systray bug and I 
got carried away. Of course I'll use reviewboard next time. It had 
nothing to do with the QA Team and the debugging of the bug that lead to 
my bad revert happened in #plasma.


To add a positive note to all this: the work the QA Team did so far: I 
don't know how many Plasma bug reports were triaged prior the beta 1 
release but Myriam alone triaged, verified, put versions in hundreds of 
reports. It's to be noted that users answered to queries about old bug 
reports better than we expected. From the beta 1 release to now, more 
than 100 bug reports were issued or confirmed, most about Plasma and 33 
were fixed. Special thanks to Viranch who is tackling QML regressions 
and make users happy. Tests on community wiki 
http://community.kde.org/Getinvolved/Testing/Beta/Plasma can be useful 
to new developers.
Plasma bugs in bugzilla should now be very much easier for developers to 
prioritize. Please let us know if you have questions about bugzilla or 
suggestions.


Best regards,

Anne-Marie
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blogs from the sprint?

2012-06-14 Thread Aaron J. Seigo
hello to everyone at the workspace sprint:

can we have a blog or two about the happenings? i think we're probably all 
interested in what's happening there ... 

thanks ...

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Re: Quality Team: LCD weather station and calendar (in panel) are really broken

2012-06-14 Thread Sebastian Kügler
Hey all,

On Wednesday, June 13, 2012 22:31:36 Anne-Marie Mahfouf wrote:
 The LCD Weather Station applet is in a non working state and the Quality 
 Team thinks it cannot be shipped as it is. The problem is that two 
 providers which cover Europe had an API change (and some freedom 
 restrictions?) thus the applet can't display any information for a lot 
 of locations. I know it's the data engine code the culprit but the 
 consequence is a non working applet.
 See https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=300885 (Weather Station Applet 
 does not work anymore with bbcuk or wetter.com provider)
 
 Another applet is in bad shape as well: the Calendar applet when placed 
 in panel. The date does not update when the day changes and the layout 
 is totally broken making the calendar not readable. See 
 https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=236874 and
 https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=285362
 
 We hope these can be fixed as well as the regressions regularly sent to 
 the list.

I think things we can take away from this thread:

- We want each other to look at commits more
- Just removing components or reverting commits is not a way to fix bugs, it 
  probably leads to more regressions even
- We need to improve on our collaboration
- New people coming into the team, in which form however, need to learn the 
  ropes, and screwups once in a while are quite natural. It's growing pains, 
  though, and growing is a good thing
- We share the same goals, and should all try to not step on each other's 
  toes. (Ok, the last thing hasn't been mentioned explicitely, but still seems 
  quite well backed by evidence. :P)

Cheers,
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Re: Quality Team: LCD weather station and calendar (in panel) are really broken

2012-06-14 Thread Marco Martin
On Thu, Jun 14, 2012 at 5:58 PM, David Edmundson
da...@davidedmundson.co.uk wrote:

this is just about a little point of this, more of this later

 Have you discussed the weather LCD applet with the team before denying
 the request. I've not seen anything? Either you haven't, and have just
 decided on behalf of your entire team which isn't a good example of
 communication, or there's a communication channel which doesn't
 include me...which again isn't a good example of good inclusive
 communication.

i take responsibility on this, i was part of the irc discussion, and i
was agreeing with the decision.
so i was agreeing completely against the removal of the applet.
unfortunaltely i did not document it, so there wasn't indeed much discussion :/

Cheers,
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Re: blogs from the sprint?

2012-06-14 Thread Alex Fiestas
Pretty much drinking smoking and eating really well cooked food xD

I will blog about my thoughts today
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Re: Last call for Randa 2012 registration

2012-06-14 Thread Mario Fux
Morning gals and guys

Please sent me a 5 to 10 sentences summary on what you plan to do in Randa in 
September. I'll forward this together with the budget to the e.V. board.

Thx
Mario

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Re: Quality Team: LCD weather station and calendar (in panel) are really broken

2012-06-14 Thread Marco Martin
On Thu, Jun 14, 2012 at 10:36 PM, Sebastian Kügler se...@kde.org wrote:
 Hey all,

 We hope these can be fixed as well as the regressions regularly sent to
 the list.

 I think things we can take away from this thread:

 - We want each other to look at commits more
 - Just removing components or reverting commits is not a way to fix bugs, it
  probably leads to more regressions even
 - We need to improve on our collaboration
 - New people coming into the team, in which form however, need to learn the
  ropes, and screwups once in a while are quite natural. It's growing pains,
  though, and growing is a good thing
 - We share the same goals, and should all try to not step on each other's
  toes. (Ok, the last thing hasn't been mentioned explicitely, but still seems
  quite well backed by evidence. :P)


+1

as i said, personally i didn't see problems... i agreed with the
revert of the revert, i agreed with leaving weatherstation in. i
didn't see a problem of that decision being seen as unilateral.

this seems to hurt new people, adapting to a workflow is difficult,
and the workflow is for sure far from perfect.

for this thread: let's everybody think about those points, and let's
use what we learnt dealing with the next issue, being an important
review request, or a decision about what action to take over a severe
bug.

Cheers,
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Re: blogs from the sprint?

2012-06-14 Thread Marco Martin
On Thu, Jun 14, 2012 at 10:18 PM, Aaron J. Seigo ase...@kde.org wrote:
 hello to everyone at the workspace sprint:

 can we have a blog or two about the happenings? i think we're probably all
 interested in what's happening there ...

 thanks ...

to be brief for now:
something out of it very good, but slowly gaining energy like a
spring, hopefully with fgreat results in the end.
 in contrast to a devel one where we have more little developments :)

Cheers,
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No remaining time option in battery monitor?

2012-06-14 Thread Viranch Mehta
Hi,

I just noticed there is no option of remaining time in the latest stable
released
version of the c++ battery applet (4.8.4). Have we discarded it? I want to
know this
so I can know whether I should keep this in the qml version.

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Re: No remaining time option in battery monitor?

2012-06-14 Thread Shaun Reich
Was it ever even mainlined? Thought it was just in some branch..
On Jun 14, 2012 7:12 PM, Viranch Mehta viranch.me...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hi,

 I just noticed there is no option of remaining time in the latest stable
 released
 version of the c++ battery applet (4.8.4). Have we discarded it? I want to
 know this
 so I can know whether I should keep this in the qml version.

 Cheers,
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Re: No remaining time option in battery monitor?

2012-06-14 Thread Marco Martin
On Fri, Jun 15, 2012 at 12:54 AM, Viranch Mehta viranch.me...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hi,

 I just noticed there is no option of remaining time in the latest stable
 released
 version of the c++ battery applet (4.8.4). Have we discarded it? I want to
 know this
 so I can know whether I should keep this in the qml version.

there was an old discussion about  it.

basically there are several problem wit the remaining time (is false
information)
http://osdir.com/ml/plasma-devel/2009-05/msg00269.html

i think the qml version should be for now coherent with the c++ applet
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Re: No remaining time option in battery monitor?

2012-06-14 Thread Shaun Reich
To me it looks less like a discussion and more like a aaron got pissed
because it didn't work for him, who himself is one person therefore nobody
should have it.

If not all hardware supports it, tough shit we've been shipping compositing
on so much hardware that couldn't support it even in a remote sense yet did
it anyways. And these days compositing works pretty darn well on even less
mature Foss drivers. Do you see parallels here? I don't know, power top
manages to get the info just fine.

Of course it is by nature inaccurate, but you know what? So is guessing how
much % is left. So you're simply wrong, anything associated with a battery
can be easily argued as inaccurate, because it is. You know that battery %
cannot be measured just from VA alone with Li-ion, many other factors need
to be taken into consideration, especially temperature. Otherwise the
values you're getting could be at least 20% off. So maybe we should stop
displaying the percentage of the battery, and just tell the user that their
computer is on. And when it is off, we won't tell them anything.


Time remaining applies to a lot of things, and since it's all hardware,
it's all inaccurate but does give you a rough idea, look at backup power
supplies; also, even cars have it these days(in the form of mpg and miles
remaining as well as minutes). The user doesn't expect it to be 100%
accurate, because it can't be and it never was, they already know that.


Given this logic, perhaps we should also abandon file transfer ETA and just
say it's done when it's done, since inter/intranet bandwidth and internal
I/O operations vary so greatly with access times and scheduling, there's no
way to possibly give you an accurate time, and the users won't be able to
trust it ever because it switches from 1 week to 4 hours. And yet we
do...? Because it's common functionality and is expected..


That said, every other OS under the sun manages to do ETA just fine, so
what's the problem?
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Re: No remaining time option in battery monitor?

2012-06-14 Thread David Edmundson
On Thu, Jun 14, 2012 at 11:54 PM, Viranch Mehta viranch.me...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hi,

 I just noticed there is no option of remaining time in the latest stable
 released
 version of the c++ battery applet (4.8.4). Have we discarded it? I want to
 know this
 so I can know whether I should keep this in the qml version.

There's no option because it's always shown in the popup dialog (or at
least appears to be for me (4.8.3))
In the QML port this moved to being a config option for the dialog
before you took over. Presumably for the reasons in Macro's email,
which people may or may not agree with.

I'm assuming you're asking based on a
https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=301872? Which is about showing
the time remaining on the icon itself, and this actually states this
option hasn't existed since KDE 3, so this is not a regression from
the last release.

Dave

 Cheers,
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Re: No remaining time option in battery monitor?

2012-06-14 Thread Dario Freddi
2012/6/15 Shaun Reich sre...@kde.org:
 To me it looks less like a discussion and more like a aaron got pissed
 because it didn't work for him, who himself is one person therefore nobody
 should have it.

This is not how things went. There has been an extensive discussion in
the past you can easily find in the archives of this mailing list, and
a number of reiterations of the discussion afterwards (split between
here, k-c-d and bug trackers). Also, to provide full disclosure, the
people involved in this decision at the time were me and sebas.

Apart from that, I stated multiple times in the past I am neutral to
this decision since I found myself not really taking sides after all
that's been said. With my power management maintainer hat on, I am
fine with whatever decision the majority of the other contributors
agree on.
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Re: No remaining time option in battery monitor?

2012-06-14 Thread Shaun Reich
ew, why would it need to be a config option anyways? don't see the
point in that. it should just be on mouseover an icon switch and/or
tooltip. iirc this was exactly what some non-merged applet did. I
believe sebas was the one who made that one as well (which worked
well, i might add).

This is not how things went. There has been an extensive discussion in
the past you can easily find in the archives of this mailing list, and
a number of reiterations of the discussion afterwards (split between
here, k-c-d and bug trackers). Also, to provide full disclosure, the
people involved in this decision at the time were me and sebas.

okay, it just didn't seem that way from the mails i followed on the
marco-provided link.

Apart from that, I stated multiple times in the past I am neutral to
this decision since I found myself not really taking sides after all
that's been said. With my power management maintainer hat on, I am
fine with whatever decision the majority of the other contributors
agree on.


-- 
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KDE Software Developer (kde.org)
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