Re: timing of KDE5 panel in login
On Friday 27 of March 2015 19:21:35 Takao Fujiwara wrote: I'd like to run a custom panel at bottom right in KDE5 for ibus(propertypanel.vala): https://github.com/ibus/ibus/tree/master/ui/gtk3 Hi, this is a Plasma 5 related question, try to ask on the plasma-devel list (now in CC, I don't remember if it requires a subscription). Question quoted below (I'm just the messenger): Since KDE5 allocates the owned panel at bottom, I try to get the desktop height using _NET_CURRENT_DESKTOP atom. My custom panel runs at login time and tries to get the desktop height using _NET_CURRENT_DESKTOP atom but KDE5 panel still is not launched. How can I get when the KDE5 panel is launched at login time? Actually I use both the custom panel and KNotifications icon. When I get the callback of org.kde.StatusNotifierWatcher of The KNotifications icon, KDE5 panel still is not allocated. I also checked the atoms with xlsatoms command but I have no idea to get KDE panel. Ciao -- Luigi ___ Plasma-devel mailing list Plasma-devel@kde.org https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/plasma-devel
Review Request 123147: do not install so link if the headers are not being installed
--- This is an automatically generated e-mail. To reply, visit: https://git.reviewboard.kde.org/r/123147/ --- Review request for Plasma. Repository: plasma-desktop Description --- in the no-install-header mode it keeps the library entirely private by not installing the symlink, whereas when installing the headers the so link is also being installed. Diffs - lib/kactivities-stats/src/lib/stats/CMakeLists.txt f58aa5d9bd200b3c037a5e7e5a7ad893bbae956e Diff: https://git.reviewboard.kde.org/r/123147/diff/ Testing --- make -j9; make install DESTDIR=. -- doesn't install .so change experimental header install variable to true -- installs .so Thanks, Harald Sitter ___ Plasma-devel mailing list Plasma-devel@kde.org https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/plasma-devel
ISO for 2015-03-27
http://files.kde.org/snapshots/unstable-amd64-latest.iso.mirrorlist # changes - kio CI repaired - kdeconnect CI repaired - muon CI repaired - kwin shouldn't crash anymore when entering the live session - kde telepathy requires installation of signon-plugin-password so it works as expected (your's truly forgot to push the fix for that, fixed for next week) - dolphin now correctly pulls in the konsole kpart4 - cantor is being integrated correctly (sudo apt install cantor) - the previous graphics glitches in virtual machines should be gone entirely now # errata - screenlocker still starting after 1 minute, fix applied and should be in next week's ISO - mouse cursor still bugs out on parts of the desktop (under investigation still) # long standing errata - all issues affecting Kubuntu 15.04, nothing major known right now - the ISO is rolled using the CI landing PPA due to stabilization blockage from missing bluez5. this in turn means that upgrades potentially won't work or break half way through as the underlying PPA breaks ever so often. ___ Plasma-devel mailing list Plasma-devel@kde.org https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/plasma-devel
Review Request 123149: execute xrdb in kapplymousetheme
--- This is an automatically generated e-mail. To reply, visit: https://git.reviewboard.kde.org/r/123149/ --- Review request for Plasma and Martin Gräßlin. Repository: plasma-desktop Description --- try to fix the cursors at startup bug Diffs - kcms/input/CMakeLists.txt 8031295 kcms/input/kapplymousetheme.cpp ad3db05 Diff: https://git.reviewboard.kde.org/r/123149/diff/ Testing --- Thanks, Marco Martin ___ Plasma-devel mailing list Plasma-devel@kde.org https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/plasma-devel
Re: Review Request 123136: Fix one pixel gap between screenedge and right placed vertical panel
--- This is an automatically generated e-mail. To reply, visit: https://git.reviewboard.kde.org/r/123136/ --- (Updated March 27, 2015, 12:22 p.m.) Status -- This change has been marked as submitted. Review request for Plasma, Martin Gräßlin and Marco Martin. Changes --- Submitted with commit 975e5009c176eb378daa5c8f74cd4cffb64ff459 by Bhushan Shah to branch master. Bugs: 339323 and 340549 https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=339323 https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=340549 Repository: plasma-workspace Description --- Appearantly right() / bottomRight() / topRight() returns values with 1 pixel x off for historical reasons and hence 1px gap. This causes the autohide panel not hiding automatically. Diffs - shell/panelview.cpp 3435736 Diff: https://git.reviewboard.kde.org/r/123136/diff/ Testing --- added right aligned panel and tested various combinations Thanks, Bhushan Shah ___ Plasma-devel mailing list Plasma-devel@kde.org https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/plasma-devel
Re: timing of KDE5 panel in login
Thank you for forwarding the e-mail. I try to get the desktop size from _NET_WORKAREA and _NET_CURRENT_DESKTOP. After KDE panel runs, the height of root window != the height of _NET_WORKAREA because KDE5 panel is allocated. I wish to move my panel to (the width of root window, the height of _NET_WORKAREA) But When I try to get the the height of _NET_WORKAREA during the login, the height of root window == the height of _NET_WORKAREA because KDE5 panel is not allocated yet. So the position of my panel and one of the KDE panel is duplicated. This is the expected result. +--- plasma-desktop 5 -+ | | | +---+| | | my panel || | +---+| |++| || KDE5 panel|| |++| +--+ But actual result at login time is duplicated because KDE5 panel is not allocated: ++---+ | KDE5 panel| My panel | ++---+ After KDE5 panel runs, my panel gets the right position because the height of _NET_WORKAREA returns the right value. I'm finding how to listen the changes in the property. But I don't have to listen the change in GNOME and XFCE. I can get the right value of _NET_WORKAREA at login. I guess KDE5 panel might be slow to be launched. Probably I can use notify::size signal for GtkStatusIcon to listen the panel size. But I don't know how to get the change of the panel size in KNotifications. I migrated GtkStatusIcon to KNotifications recently since KDE5 does not enable notification area by default. I use both the custom panel and panel icon of KNotifications now. On 03/27/15 20:28, Luigi Toscano-san wrote: On Friday 27 of March 2015 19:21:35 Takao Fujiwara wrote: I'd like to run a custom panel at bottom right in KDE5 for ibus(propertypanel.vala): https://github.com/ibus/ibus/tree/master/ui/gtk3 Hi, this is a Plasma 5 related question, try to ask on the plasma-devel list (now in CC, I don't remember if it requires a subscription). Question quoted below (I'm just the messenger): Since KDE5 allocates the owned panel at bottom, I try to get the desktop height using _NET_CURRENT_DESKTOP atom. My custom panel runs at login time and tries to get the desktop height using _NET_CURRENT_DESKTOP atom but KDE5 panel still is not launched. How can I get when the KDE5 panel is launched at login time? Actually I use both the custom panel and KNotifications icon. When I get the callback of org.kde.StatusNotifierWatcher of The KNotifications icon, KDE5 panel still is not allocated. I also checked the atoms with xlsatoms command but I have no idea to get KDE panel. Ciao ___ Plasma-devel mailing list Plasma-devel@kde.org https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/plasma-devel
Re: Review Request 123136: Fix one pixel gap between screenedge and right placed vertical panel
On March 26, 2015, 4:59 p.m., David Edmundson wrote: shell/panelview.cpp, line 443 https://git.reviewboard.kde.org/r/123136/diff/1/?file=356709#file356709line443 and here? Bhushan Shah wrote: bottomLeft is fine, in general anythingLeft is fine. bottomLeft's bottom will be wrong still though? Returns the position of the rectangle's bottom-left corner. Note that for historical reasons this function returns QPoint(left(), top() + height() - 1). - David --- This is an automatically generated e-mail. To reply, visit: https://git.reviewboard.kde.org/r/123136/#review78069 --- On March 27, 2015, 12:03 p.m., Bhushan Shah wrote: --- This is an automatically generated e-mail. To reply, visit: https://git.reviewboard.kde.org/r/123136/ --- (Updated March 27, 2015, 12:03 p.m.) Review request for Plasma, Martin Gräßlin and Marco Martin. Bugs: 339323 and 340549 https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=339323 https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=340549 Repository: plasma-workspace Description --- Appearantly right() / bottomRight() / topRight() returns values with 1 pixel x off for historical reasons and hence 1px gap. This causes the autohide panel not hiding automatically. Diffs - shell/panelview.cpp 3435736 Diff: https://git.reviewboard.kde.org/r/123136/diff/ Testing --- added right aligned panel and tested various combinations Thanks, Bhushan Shah ___ Plasma-devel mailing list Plasma-devel@kde.org https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/plasma-devel
Re: Review Request 123149: execute xrdb in kapplymousetheme
On March 27, 2015, 12:20 p.m., Lukáš Tinkl wrote: Doesn't running krdb fix this as well? would that need the same configuration file generation as xrdb or just running krdb would be magic enough? - Marco --- This is an automatically generated e-mail. To reply, visit: https://git.reviewboard.kde.org/r/123149/#review78115 --- On March 27, 2015, 11:55 a.m., Marco Martin wrote: --- This is an automatically generated e-mail. To reply, visit: https://git.reviewboard.kde.org/r/123149/ --- (Updated March 27, 2015, 11:55 a.m.) Review request for Plasma and Martin Gräßlin. Repository: plasma-desktop Description --- try to fix the cursors at startup bug Diffs - kcms/input/CMakeLists.txt 8031295 kcms/input/kapplymousetheme.cpp ad3db05 Diff: https://git.reviewboard.kde.org/r/123149/diff/ Testing --- Thanks, Marco Martin ___ Plasma-devel mailing list Plasma-devel@kde.org https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/plasma-devel
Re: Review Request 123136: Fix one pixel gap between screenedge and right placed vertical panel
On March 26, 2015, 10:29 p.m., David Edmundson wrote: shell/panelview.cpp, line 433 https://git.reviewboard.kde.org/r/123136/diff/1/?file=356709#file356709line433 and here. topLeft is fine.. it is not affected On March 26, 2015, 10:29 p.m., David Edmundson wrote: shell/panelview.cpp, line 443 https://git.reviewboard.kde.org/r/123136/diff/1/?file=356709#file356709line443 and here? bottomLeft is fine, in general anythingLeft is fine. - Bhushan --- This is an automatically generated e-mail. To reply, visit: https://git.reviewboard.kde.org/r/123136/#review78069 --- On March 26, 2015, 10:11 p.m., Bhushan Shah wrote: --- This is an automatically generated e-mail. To reply, visit: https://git.reviewboard.kde.org/r/123136/ --- (Updated March 26, 2015, 10:11 p.m.) Review request for Plasma, Martin Gräßlin and Marco Martin. Bugs: 339323 and 340549 https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=339323 https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=340549 Repository: plasma-workspace Description --- Appearantly right() / bottomRight() / topRight() returns values with 1 pixel x off for historical reasons and hence 1px gap. This causes the autohide panel not hiding automatically. Diffs - shell/panelview.cpp 3435736 Diff: https://git.reviewboard.kde.org/r/123136/diff/ Testing --- added right aligned panel and tested various combinations Thanks, Bhushan Shah ___ Plasma-devel mailing list Plasma-devel@kde.org https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/plasma-devel
Re: Review Request 123136: Fix one pixel gap between screenedge and right placed vertical panel
--- This is an automatically generated e-mail. To reply, visit: https://git.reviewboard.kde.org/r/123136/ --- (Updated March 27, 2015, 5:33 p.m.) Review request for Plasma, Martin Gräßlin and Marco Martin. Bugs: 339323 and 340549 https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=339323 https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=340549 Repository: plasma-workspace Description --- Appearantly right() / bottomRight() / topRight() returns values with 1 pixel x off for historical reasons and hence 1px gap. This causes the autohide panel not hiding automatically. Diffs (updated) - shell/panelview.cpp 3435736 Diff: https://git.reviewboard.kde.org/r/123136/diff/ Testing --- added right aligned panel and tested various combinations Thanks, Bhushan Shah ___ Plasma-devel mailing list Plasma-devel@kde.org https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/plasma-devel
Re: Review Request 123136: Fix one pixel gap between screenedge and right placed vertical panel
--- This is an automatically generated e-mail. To reply, visit: https://git.reviewboard.kde.org/r/123136/#review78113 --- Ship it! Ship It! - David Edmundson On March 26, 2015, 4:41 p.m., Bhushan Shah wrote: --- This is an automatically generated e-mail. To reply, visit: https://git.reviewboard.kde.org/r/123136/ --- (Updated March 26, 2015, 4:41 p.m.) Review request for Plasma, Martin Gräßlin and Marco Martin. Bugs: 339323 and 340549 https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=339323 https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=340549 Repository: plasma-workspace Description --- Appearantly right() / bottomRight() / topRight() returns values with 1 pixel x off for historical reasons and hence 1px gap. This causes the autohide panel not hiding automatically. Diffs - shell/panelview.cpp 3435736 Diff: https://git.reviewboard.kde.org/r/123136/diff/ Testing --- added right aligned panel and tested various combinations Thanks, Bhushan Shah ___ Plasma-devel mailing list Plasma-devel@kde.org https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/plasma-devel
Re: Review Request 123149: execute xrdb in kapplymousetheme
--- This is an automatically generated e-mail. To reply, visit: https://git.reviewboard.kde.org/r/123149/#review78115 --- Doesn't running krdb fix this as well? - Lukáš Tinkl On Bře. 27, 2015, 12:55 odp., Marco Martin wrote: --- This is an automatically generated e-mail. To reply, visit: https://git.reviewboard.kde.org/r/123149/ --- (Updated Bře. 27, 2015, 12:55 odp.) Review request for Plasma and Martin Gräßlin. Repository: plasma-desktop Description --- try to fix the cursors at startup bug Diffs - kcms/input/CMakeLists.txt 8031295 kcms/input/kapplymousetheme.cpp ad3db05 Diff: https://git.reviewboard.kde.org/r/123149/diff/ Testing --- Thanks, Marco Martin ___ Plasma-devel mailing list Plasma-devel@kde.org https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/plasma-devel
[Powerdevil] [Bug 345533] Crash on resume from suspend
https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=345533 Lukáš Tinkl lu...@kde.org changed: What|Removed |Added Resolution|--- |WAITINGFORINFO Status|UNCONFIRMED |NEEDSINFO CC||lu...@kde.org --- Comment #1 from Lukáš Tinkl lu...@kde.org --- Can you please install debug symbols to get a more meaningful backtrace? -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. ___ Plasma-devel mailing list Plasma-devel@kde.org https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/plasma-devel
Re: Review Request 123142: Fixes plasma-desktop compilation with boost 1.57
--- This is an automatically generated e-mail. To reply, visit: https://git.reviewboard.kde.org/r/123142/#review78121 --- is this redundant now? - David Edmundson On March 26, 2015, 7:47 p.m., Tomaz Canabrava wrote: --- This is an automatically generated e-mail. To reply, visit: https://git.reviewboard.kde.org/r/123142/ --- (Updated March 26, 2015, 7:47 p.m.) Review request for Plasma. Repository: plasma-desktop Description --- Plasma-desktop uses Boost::optional on a few places, but it stored the value as boolean ( bool thisValid = currentValue; for instance ), the issue is that boost::optional conversion to bool must be explicit, thus a static_cast is needed. Diffs - lib/kactivities-stats/src/lib/stats/resultset_iterator.cpp 664b399 Diff: https://git.reviewboard.kde.org/r/123142/diff/ Testing --- compiles. Thanks, Tomaz Canabrava ___ Plasma-devel mailing list Plasma-devel@kde.org https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/plasma-devel
Re: timing of KDE5 panel in login
Just a side note: KDE ships an ibus/fcitx/scim GUI frontend in kdeplasma-addons that's implemented as a panel widget (+ popups). Cheers, Eike ___ Plasma-devel mailing list Plasma-devel@kde.org https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/plasma-devel
Re: Review Request 123142: Fixes plasma-desktop compilation with boost 1.57
On March 27, 2015, 2:20 p.m., David Edmundson wrote: is this redundant now? Yes, Tomaz said he'll close it. - Ivan --- This is an automatically generated e-mail. To reply, visit: https://git.reviewboard.kde.org/r/123142/#review78121 --- On March 26, 2015, 7:47 p.m., Tomaz Canabrava wrote: --- This is an automatically generated e-mail. To reply, visit: https://git.reviewboard.kde.org/r/123142/ --- (Updated March 26, 2015, 7:47 p.m.) Review request for Plasma. Repository: plasma-desktop Description --- Plasma-desktop uses Boost::optional on a few places, but it stored the value as boolean ( bool thisValid = currentValue; for instance ), the issue is that boost::optional conversion to bool must be explicit, thus a static_cast is needed. Diffs - lib/kactivities-stats/src/lib/stats/resultset_iterator.cpp 664b399 Diff: https://git.reviewboard.kde.org/r/123142/diff/ Testing --- compiles. Thanks, Tomaz Canabrava ___ Plasma-devel mailing list Plasma-devel@kde.org https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/plasma-devel
Re: BluezQt in kdereview
It's been 2 weeks and I'd like to make it in time for Plasma 5.3, so if there are no objections, I will file a ticket for move to kde/workspace. David ___ Plasma-devel mailing list Plasma-devel@kde.org https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/plasma-devel
Re: Review Request 123149: execute xrdb in kapplymousetheme
--- This is an automatically generated e-mail. To reply, visit: https://git.reviewboard.kde.org/r/123149/ --- (Updated March 27, 2015, 3:25 p.m.) Status -- This change has been discarded. Review request for Plasma and Martin Gräßlin. Repository: plasma-desktop Description --- try to fix the cursors at startup bug Diffs - kcms/input/CMakeLists.txt 8031295 kcms/input/kapplymousetheme.cpp ad3db05 Diff: https://git.reviewboard.kde.org/r/123149/diff/ Testing --- Thanks, Marco Martin ___ Plasma-devel mailing list Plasma-devel@kde.org https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/plasma-devel
Re: Review Request 123142: Fixes plasma-desktop compilation with boost 1.57
--- This is an automatically generated e-mail. To reply, visit: https://git.reviewboard.kde.org/r/123142/ --- (Updated March 27, 2015, 3:20 p.m.) Status -- This change has been discarded. Review request for Plasma. Repository: plasma-desktop Description --- Plasma-desktop uses Boost::optional on a few places, but it stored the value as boolean ( bool thisValid = currentValue; for instance ), the issue is that boost::optional conversion to bool must be explicit, thus a static_cast is needed. Diffs - lib/kactivities-stats/src/lib/stats/resultset_iterator.cpp 664b399 Diff: https://git.reviewboard.kde.org/r/123142/diff/ Testing --- compiles. Thanks, Tomaz Canabrava ___ Plasma-devel mailing list Plasma-devel@kde.org https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/plasma-devel
Re: Review Request 123142: Fixes plasma-desktop compilation with boost 1.57
On March 27, 2015, 2:20 p.m., David Edmundson wrote: is this redundant now? Ivan Čukić wrote: Yes, Tomaz said he'll close it. /me abuses his super admin powers. - David --- This is an automatically generated e-mail. To reply, visit: https://git.reviewboard.kde.org/r/123142/#review78121 --- On March 27, 2015, 3:20 p.m., Tomaz Canabrava wrote: --- This is an automatically generated e-mail. To reply, visit: https://git.reviewboard.kde.org/r/123142/ --- (Updated March 27, 2015, 3:20 p.m.) Review request for Plasma. Repository: plasma-desktop Description --- Plasma-desktop uses Boost::optional on a few places, but it stored the value as boolean ( bool thisValid = currentValue; for instance ), the issue is that boost::optional conversion to bool must be explicit, thus a static_cast is needed. Diffs - lib/kactivities-stats/src/lib/stats/resultset_iterator.cpp 664b399 Diff: https://git.reviewboard.kde.org/r/123142/diff/ Testing --- compiles. Thanks, Tomaz Canabrava ___ Plasma-devel mailing list Plasma-devel@kde.org https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/plasma-devel
Re: BluezQt in kdereview
On Friday 27 March 2015 18:57:20 David Rosca wrote: It's been 2 weeks and I'd like to make it in time for Plasma 5.3, so if there are no objections, I will file a ticket for move to kde/workspace. +1 from here -- Marco Martin ___ Plasma-devel mailing list Plasma-devel@kde.org https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/plasma-devel
Review Request 123161: Add copy and paste support for calculator widget
--- This is an automatically generated e-mail. To reply, visit: https://git.reviewboard.kde.org/r/123161/ --- Review request for Plasma. Bugs: 318221 http://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=318221 Repository: kdeplasma-addons Description --- The current displayed value from the textfield can be copied. Content from the clipboard can be pasted but only if the content is a valid number BUG: 318221 Diffs - applets/calculator/package/contents/ui/calculator.qml 23f74bd1ac7de6b7f4519677bd96aa351a91cff1 Diff: https://git.reviewboard.kde.org/r/123161/diff/ Testing --- Copying: *) Tried copying entered numbers and results - works for me :) Pasting: *) Pasting asdf leads to nothing being pasted - correct *) Pasting 5 pasts 5 - replaces the currently entered text with the pasted content (this could be worked around - should it append?) *) Pasting = 5 + 3 passes through validation - no idea why yet - this should be possible I guess? Comments welcome :) This is my second patch so hopefully my work isn't complete garbage :P Thanks, Bernhard Friedreich ___ Plasma-devel mailing list Plasma-devel@kde.org https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/plasma-devel
Re: Review Request 123161: Add copy and paste support for calculator widget
--- This is an automatically generated e-mail. To reply, visit: https://git.reviewboard.kde.org/r/123161/#review78129 --- applets/calculator/package/contents/ui/calculator.qml (line 95) https://git.reviewboard.kde.org/r/123161/#comment53528 avoid guessing what the shortcut is. Otherwise if someone maps it to alt in their settings it won't work. Or if someone has a dvorak layout it won't be c and v. Use if event.matches(StandardKey.Copy) http://doc.qt.io/qt-5/qml-qtquick-keyevent.html#matches-method internally this will ask our QPT plugin which loads things from a KDE config file. applets/calculator/package/contents/ui/calculator.qml (line 220) https://git.reviewboard.kde.org/r/123161/#comment53531 I'm not convinced this is going to work. You'll update the display, but all the handling of storing what number is entered handles in the key press events. Can you try pasting 5 then typing '+' and '1' and see what happens. I think it will then show 1, not 6. - David Edmundson On March 27, 2015, 11:21 p.m., Bernhard Friedreich wrote: --- This is an automatically generated e-mail. To reply, visit: https://git.reviewboard.kde.org/r/123161/ --- (Updated March 27, 2015, 11:21 p.m.) Review request for Plasma. Bugs: 318221 http://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=318221 Repository: kdeplasma-addons Description --- The current displayed value from the textfield can be copied. Content from the clipboard can be pasted but only if the content is a valid number BUG: 318221 Diffs - applets/calculator/package/contents/ui/calculator.qml 23f74bd1ac7de6b7f4519677bd96aa351a91cff1 Diff: https://git.reviewboard.kde.org/r/123161/diff/ Testing --- Copying: *) Tried copying entered numbers and results - works for me :) Pasting: *) Pasting asdf leads to nothing being pasted - correct *) Pasting 5 pasts 5 - replaces the currently entered text with the pasted content (this could be worked around - should it append?) *) Pasting = 5 + 3 passes through validation - no idea why yet - this should be possible I guess? Comments welcome :) This is my second patch so hopefully my work isn't complete garbage :P Thanks, Bernhard Friedreich ___ Plasma-devel mailing list Plasma-devel@kde.org https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/plasma-devel
