Re: [RFC] Closing outdated crash reports

2013-05-27 Thread Martin Gräßlin

Am 2013-05-25 14:34, schrieb Aaron J. Seigo:

On Saturday, May 25, 2013 09:19:19 Martin Graesslin wrote:
Plasma has many open crash reports for outdated versions [1]. I 
would

suggest to close them all as:


+1 from me.

Sysadmin request created: https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=320343

Cheers
Martin
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[RFC] Closing outdated crash reports

2013-05-25 Thread Martin Graesslin
Hi all,

Plasma has many open crash reports for outdated versions [1]. I would suggest 
to close them all as:
a) Stack traces most likely do not match any more
b) It's quite likely that it's a duplicate
c) Users can easily reopen if it's still valid with latest version
d) If it's a crash and still valid it will be reported again (given enough 
eyes...)

I would suggest the following template for closing (native speakers: please 
correct):

Thank you for this crash report and helping to improve our software. 
Unfortunately we were not able to work on this specific report yet. Nowadays 
the version this crash was reported against is no longer maintained and this 
makes it very difficult to work on this report as the source code might have 
changed and the information in the backtrace is no longer valid.

Also it is quite likely that this problem got fixed in a later version. Crash 
reports are very often reported multiple times.

If you are able to reproduce this crash with the latest version of KDE Plasma 
(4.10.3) please reopen this report and adjust the version information in the 
dropdown above and please also include a new backtrace as generated by the 
crash reporting tool. Please also make sure that the steps on how to reproduce 
the crash are precise and correct. Thank you!

As new status I would suggest RESOLVED/UNMAINTAINED.

Comments?

Cheers
Martin

[1] 
https://bugs.kde.org/buglist.cgi?list_id=661950bug_severity=crashquery_format=advancedbug_status=UNCONFIRMEDbug_status=CONFIRMEDbug_status=ASSIGNEDbug_status=REOPENEDversion=unspecifiedversion=4.5%20and%20olderversion=4.6.0version=4.6.1version=4.6.2version=4.6.3version=4.6.4version=4.6.5version=4.7.0version=4.7.1version=4.7.2version=4.7.3version=4.7.4version=4.8.0version=4.8.1version=4.8.2version=4.8.3version=4.9-gitversion=4.7.90version=4.7.95version=4.8.80%20%28beta1%29version=4.7.80version=4.7.97version=4.8.4version=4.8.90%20%28beta2%29version=4.8.95%20%28RC1%29version=4.8.97%28RC2%29version=4.9.0version=4.8.5version=4.9.1version=4.9.2version=4.9.3version=4.9.80%20Beta1version=4.9.90%20Beta2version=4.9.95%20RC1version=4.9.97%20RC2version=4.9.98%20RC3product=plasma
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Re: [RFC] Closing outdated crash reports

2013-05-25 Thread Jekyll Wu

On 2013年05月25日 15:19, Martin Graesslin wrote:

Hi all,

Plasma has many open crash reports for outdated versions [1]. I would suggest
to close them all as:
a) Stack traces most likely do not match any more
b) It's quite likely that it's a duplicate
c) Users can easily reopen if it's still valid with latest version
d) If it's a crash and still valid it will be reported again (given enough
eyes...)



I like the idea in general, but the suggested bug list is a little 
dangerous (meaning it might cause very bad public image) :


1. it contains quite a few CONFIRMED and REOPENED reports, so 
closing them will certainly make users angry and be reopened again 
later. For such reports, we could ask can someone try and see whether 
it is still valid in 4.10.3 ? but really should not close it and wait 
for angry users to shout and reopen it.


2. it contains quite a few reports with high amount of comments or 
duplicates. Again, bad candidates for closing.



I would suggest using this bug list[1] as the base.

[1] 
https://bugs.kde.org/buglist.cgi?list_id=662021bug_severity=crashcolumnlist=product%2Ccomponent%2Cassigned_to%2Cbug_status%2Clongdescs.count%2Cdupecount%2Cresolution%2Cshort_desc%2Cchangeddatequery_format=advancedbug_status=UNCONFIRMEDversion=unspecifiedversion=4.5%20and%20olderversion=4.6.0version=4.6.1version=4.6.2version=4.6.3version=4.6.4version=4.6.5version=4.7.0version=4.7.1version=4.7.2version=4.7.3version=4.7.4version=4.8.0version=4.8.1version=4.8.2version=4.8.3version=4.9-gitversion=4.7.90version=4.7.95version=4.8.80%20%28beta1%29version=4.7.80version=4.7.97version=4.8.4version=4.8.90%20%28beta2%29version=4.8.95%20%28RC1%29version=4.8.97%28RC2%29version=4.9.0version=4.8.5version=4.9.1version=4.9.2version=4.9.3version=4.9.80%20Beta1version=4.9.90%20Beta2version=4.9.95%20RC1version=4.9.97%20RC2version=4.9.98%20RC3product=plasma




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Re: [RFC] Closing outdated crash reports

2013-05-25 Thread Martin Graesslin
On Saturday 25 May 2013 17:40:10 Jekyll Wu wrote:
 On 2013年05月25日 15:19, Martin Graesslin wrote:
  Hi all,
  
  Plasma has many open crash reports for outdated versions [1]. I would
  suggest to close them all as:
  a) Stack traces most likely do not match any more
  b) It's quite likely that it's a duplicate
  c) Users can easily reopen if it's still valid with latest version
  d) If it's a crash and still valid it will be reported again (given enough
  eyes...)
 
 I like the idea in general, but the suggested bug list is a little
 dangerous (meaning it might cause very bad public image) :
 
 1. it contains quite a few CONFIRMED and REOPENED reports, so
 closing them will certainly make users angry and be reopened again
 later. For such reports, we could ask can someone try and see whether
 it is still valid in 4.10.3 ? but really should not close it and wait
 for angry users to shout and reopen it.
oh that was just an example query. I would have tried to get it more fine-
grained. I think your one looks really good, but I will probably also have a 
look at the CONFIRMED and REOPENED ones - personal experience: it doesn't mean 
anything, especially REOPENED.

Cheers
Martin
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Re: [RFC] Closing outdated crash reports

2013-05-25 Thread Marco Martin
On Sat, May 25, 2013 at 12:06 PM, Martin Graesslin mgraess...@kde.orgwrote:
 1. it contains quite a few CONFIRMED and REOPENED reports, so
 closing them will certainly make users angry and be reopened again
 later. For such reports, we could ask can someone try and see whether
 it is still valid in 4.10.3 ? but really should not close it and wait
 for angry users to shout and reopen it.

 oh that was just an example query. I would have tried to get it more fine-
 grained. I think your one looks really good, but I will probably also have
 a
 look at the CONFIRMED and REOPENED ones - personal experience: it doesn't
 mean
  anything, especially REOPENED.

reopened on a very old bug often means a similar issue that the reporter
may think is the same, but often ends up completely unrelated


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Re: [RFC] Closing outdated crash reports

2013-05-25 Thread Aaron J. Seigo
On Saturday, May 25, 2013 09:19:19 Martin Graesslin wrote:
 Plasma has many open crash reports for outdated versions [1]. I would
 suggest to close them all as:

+1 from me.

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Aaron J. Seigo

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