Re: Letting users customize the default background on PMC homescreen (Was: Re: Ideas Critical to PMC)
On Tuesday 25 February 2014 10:48:47 Shantanu Tushar Jha wrote: Hi Harshit, First of all, just a note, whenever you have a new thing to discuss, it is a bad idea to reply to an existing thread which is not directly related (this is popularly known as hacking others' threads :P) To the topic, I personally don't think it is a good idea to let the user change the background of the media center. The rationale behind this is that the background is part of our UI so changing it can lead to visual inconsistency. I'll love to hear from others' views on this, especially our Usability folks. Hi Harshit, hi Shantanu, from a usability perspective, changing the background of a UI isn't a no-go, but it has to be handled with care. The most important thing is that to avoid bad contrast, every other element of the UI has to have a standard-color background on top of the user-selected background. You'd have to try that out (black background behind every UI element, probably with a few pixels around the actual element) and see whether it a) looks good b) leaves enough of the background visible to make sense at all I agree with Shantanu that without background behind the other elements, we could end up with unreadable, unrecognizable or completely invisible elements with the wrong background. CC'ing Jens to hear what he may have to say from a design perspective. Cheers, Thomas ___ Plasma-devel mailing list Plasma-devel@kde.org https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/plasma-devel
Re: Letting users customize the default background on PMC homescreen (Was: Re: Ideas Critical to PMC)
On Thu, Feb 27, 2014 at 2:04 AM, Thomas Pfeiffer colo...@autistici.orgwrote: On Tuesday 25 February 2014 10:48:47 Shantanu Tushar Jha wrote: Hi Harshit, First of all, just a note, whenever you have a new thing to discuss, it is a bad idea to reply to an existing thread which is not directly related (this is popularly known as hacking others' threads :P) To the topic, I personally don't think it is a good idea to let the user change the background of the media center. The rationale behind this is that the background is part of our UI so changing it can lead to visual inconsistency. I'll love to hear from others' views on this, especially our Usability folks. Hi Harshit, hi Shantanu, from a usability perspective, changing the background of a UI isn't a no-go, but it has to be handled with care. The most important thing is that to avoid bad contrast, every other element of the UI has to have a standard-color background on top of the user-selected background. You'd have to try that out (black background behind every UI element, probably with a few pixels around the actual element) and see whether it a) looks good b) leaves enough of the background visible to make sense at al +1 , Nice idea in case we want to go for user customized background -- http://www.sinny.in ___ Plasma-devel mailing list Plasma-devel@kde.org https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/plasma-devel
Re: Ideas Critical to PMC
Hello Harshit, This is not exactly a critical idea, but I would like the opinion of people working in this project before deciding upon it's implementation. Thank you for your involvement in the discussion of the ideas. Does the Plasma Media Center needs to have changing backgrounds? We can implement it as an option (user-select) in the settings menu. Well, its a nice suggestion, but personally I feel black texture background seems elegant enough for the application. Since we have opacity features while browsing through different categories and all, I think if the user selects some background which is very bright or something, our Plasma White coloured font, time stamp at bottom, and other texture features would not look nice. Shantanu and Sinny, whats your opinion regarding this ? Regards, Akshay Ratan On Tue, Feb 25, 2014 at 12:07 AM, R.Harish Navnit harishnav...@gmail.comwrote: Hello all, I was unfortunate not to be there with you all for the conf.kde.in, which as I've been hearing was a huge success. I feel really gutted about the same. I'd have so dearly loved to have attended a few workshops on programming with Qt and KDE API's(if there were any). But another important thing that was mentioned to me was that during the conf.kde.in the ideas critical to PMC would be mentioned. I hope that there has been some resolution on the same. I'm starting this thread, hoping to hear some of the ideas that you may have. It'd be great if someone could spread some light on the current scenario on regarding the same. Maybe the next critical Idea stems from this thread :) Warm Regards. Thanking You, R.Harish Navnit The Enigma http://harishnavnit.wordpress.com ___ Plasma-devel mailing list Plasma-devel@kde.org https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/plasma-devel -- Akshay ___ Plasma-devel mailing list Plasma-devel@kde.org https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/plasma-devel
Re: Ideas Critical to PMC
Hi Harish, Good that you are interested in the Simon integration. This project will require additions to both Simon and PMC so you will have to closely work with Peter Grasch along with the Plasma team to come up with a proposal. On Tue, Feb 25, 2014 at 6:20 PM, R.Harish Navnit harishnav...@gmail.comwrote: On Tue, Feb 25, 2014 at 10:34 AM, Shantanu Tushar Jha shant...@kde.orgwrote: Hi Harish, We did discuss some ideas and will be putting it on the ideas list asap. Feel free to propose your ideas as well :) I checked some of the ideas mentioned in the ideas page. I find the project Integrate with Simon quite interesting and would actually like to work on the same for my GSoC project if possible. Here are some more feature that I'd like to see implemented, either as a GSoC or as simple modules anyways. 1. Creating a detailed Settings page(right now it's really blank and contains little options). Yes this is one of the things I'd like to be done. 2. Enabling profiles(admin and subversions where an individual can store personal settings) in PMC. I don't understand this. 3. Several basic features like when viewing Pictures, and option to rotate/zoom/crop/add effects would be great. When playing songs, adding basic features like Shuffle, Repeat and fetching lyrics(and subtitles for videos) should be added. Keep in mind that a media center should have only basic features. In that way, I'll want to only add rotate and zoom. 4. It'd be great if the songs being played can be viewed with the album cover and some basic visualization also being added. Sorting the list of songs and adding ratings can be included. Album covers are already shown. Visualization will be a great idea, but you'll have to do some research on how to implement it. I'll be working on sorting shortly after we move to Baloo and same about ratings. 5. Adding simple news feeds that just flow by in the bottom of the screen while other activities are carried on simultaneously.(user can add the source) I find this pretty irritating in XBMC, and personally don't want that in PMC. 6. The current playing track must not be stopped if a picture is opened for viewing(can this be considered a bug?) This is expected behavior. If you want music tom play while viewing pictures, play the music first and then go to the pictures. 7. Finally an idea as such http://community.kde.org/GSoC/2010/Ideas#Project:_Distributed_Collections implemented in PMC would be cool as well. Not sure if we want this. While it'd be great if any of the above mentioned can be added to the ideas page of GSoC '14, I do understand that they might not necessarily have the caliber of a GSoC project idea :) You're free to have a proposal with ideas even when they're not listed in the ideas page anyway :) Warm Regards. Thanking You R.Harish Navnit The Enigma http://harishnavnit.wordpress.com/ ___ Plasma-devel mailing list Plasma-devel@kde.org https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/plasma-devel -- Shantanu Tushar(UTC +0530) http://www.shantanutushar.com ___ Plasma-devel mailing list Plasma-devel@kde.org https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/plasma-devel
Re: Ideas Critical to PMC
On Tue, Feb 25, 2014 at 8:10 PM, Shantanu Tushar Jha shant...@kde.orgwrote: Hi Harish, Good that you are interested in the Simon integration. This project will require additions to both Simon and PMC so you will have to closely work with Peter Grasch along with the Plasma team to come up with a proposal. On Tue, Feb 25, 2014 at 10:34 AM, Shantanu Tushar Jha shant...@kde.orgwrote: 2. Enabling profiles(admin and subversions where an individual can store personal settings) in PMC. I don't understand this. Well, I saw this in XBMC and while I never really used it, since I'm the only one using my mediacenter. But this might help you from avoiding a situation where others come and fiddle with your settings(appearance/preferences/playlists). There can be one superuser who can manage all content. Warm Regards. Thanking You, R.Harish Navnit The Enigma http://harishnavnit.wordpress.com/ ___ Plasma-devel mailing list Plasma-devel@kde.org https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/plasma-devel
Re: Ideas Critical to PMC
This is not exactly a critical idea, but I would like the opinion of people working in this project before deciding upon it's implementation. Does the Plasma Media Center needs to have changing backgrounds? We can implement it as an option (user-select) in the settings menu. Regards, Harshit Agarwal. 3rd Year, Computer Science and Engineering, National Institute of Technology, Durgapur. Ph. No.: +91-8942031165 On Tue, Feb 25, 2014 at 12:07 AM, R.Harish Navnit harishnav...@gmail.comwrote: Hello all, I was unfortunate not to be there with you all for the conf.kde.in, which as I've been hearing was a huge success. I feel really gutted about the same. I'd have so dearly loved to have attended a few workshops on programming with Qt and KDE API's(if there were any). But another important thing that was mentioned to me was that during the conf.kde.in the ideas critical to PMC would be mentioned. I hope that there has been some resolution on the same. I'm starting this thread, hoping to hear some of the ideas that you may have. It'd be great if someone could spread some light on the current scenario on regarding the same. Maybe the next critical Idea stems from this thread :) Warm Regards. Thanking You, R.Harish Navnit The Enigma http://harishnavnit.wordpress.com ___ Plasma-devel mailing list Plasma-devel@kde.org https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/plasma-devel ___ Plasma-devel mailing list Plasma-devel@kde.org https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/plasma-devel
Re: Ideas Critical to PMC
Hi Harish, We did discuss some ideas and will be putting it on the ideas list asap. Feel free to propose your ideas as well :) On Tue, Feb 25, 2014 at 12:07 AM, R.Harish Navnit harishnav...@gmail.comwrote: Hello all, I was unfortunate not to be there with you all for the conf.kde.in, which as I've been hearing was a huge success. I feel really gutted about the same. I'd have so dearly loved to have attended a few workshops on programming with Qt and KDE API's(if there were any). But another important thing that was mentioned to me was that during the conf.kde.in the ideas critical to PMC would be mentioned. I hope that there has been some resolution on the same. I'm starting this thread, hoping to hear some of the ideas that you may have. It'd be great if someone could spread some light on the current scenario on regarding the same. Maybe the next critical Idea stems from this thread :) Warm Regards. Thanking You, R.Harish Navnit The Enigma http://harishnavnit.wordpress.com ___ Plasma-devel mailing list Plasma-devel@kde.org https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/plasma-devel -- Shantanu Tushar(UTC +0530) http://www.shantanutushar.com ___ Plasma-devel mailing list Plasma-devel@kde.org https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/plasma-devel
Letting users customize the default background on PMC homescreen (Was: Re: Ideas Critical to PMC)
Hi Harshit, First of all, just a note, whenever you have a new thing to discuss, it is a bad idea to reply to an existing thread which is not directly related (this is popularly known as hacking others' threads :P) To the topic, I personally don't think it is a good idea to let the user change the background of the media center. The rationale behind this is that the background is part of our UI so changing it can lead to visual inconsistency. I'll love to hear from others' views on this, especially our Usability folks. Cheers, On Tue, Feb 25, 2014 at 4:21 AM, Harshit Agarwal see.hars...@gmail.comwrote: This is not exactly a critical idea, but I would like the opinion of people working in this project before deciding upon it's implementation. Does the Plasma Media Center needs to have changing backgrounds? We can implement it as an option (user-select) in the settings menu. Regards, Harshit Agarwal. 3rd Year, Computer Science and Engineering, National Institute of Technology, Durgapur. Ph. No.: +91-8942031165 On Tue, Feb 25, 2014 at 12:07 AM, R.Harish Navnit harishnav...@gmail.comwrote: Hello all, I was unfortunate not to be there with you all for the conf.kde.in, which as I've been hearing was a huge success. I feel really gutted about the same. I'd have so dearly loved to have attended a few workshops on programming with Qt and KDE API's(if there were any). But another important thing that was mentioned to me was that during the conf.kde.in the ideas critical to PMC would be mentioned. I hope that there has been some resolution on the same. I'm starting this thread, hoping to hear some of the ideas that you may have. It'd be great if someone could spread some light on the current scenario on regarding the same. Maybe the next critical Idea stems from this thread :) Warm Regards. Thanking You, R.Harish Navnit The Enigma http://harishnavnit.wordpress.com ___ Plasma-devel mailing list Plasma-devel@kde.org https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/plasma-devel -- Shantanu Tushar(UTC +0530) http://www.shantanutushar.com ___ Plasma-devel mailing list Plasma-devel@kde.org https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/plasma-devel
Re: Letting users customize the default background on PMC homescreen (Was: Re: Ideas Critical to PMC)
Apologies. I wasn't aware of the thread hacking act. My rationale behind changing the background is to enable the user to customize the Media Center to his/her own will. If they see something which is customized as their own, they would automatically spend more time on it, thus using and depending upon it's features more. A better alternative for achieving the same goal is most welcome! Regards, Harshit Agarwal. 3rd Year, Computer Science and Engineering, National Institute of Technology, Durgapur. Ph. No.: +91-8942031165 On Tue, Feb 25, 2014 at 10:48 AM, Shantanu Tushar Jha shant...@kde.orgwrote: Hi Harshit, First of all, just a note, whenever you have a new thing to discuss, it is a bad idea to reply to an existing thread which is not directly related (this is popularly known as hacking others' threads :P) To the topic, I personally don't think it is a good idea to let the user change the background of the media center. The rationale behind this is that the background is part of our UI so changing it can lead to visual inconsistency. I'll love to hear from others' views on this, especially our Usability folks. Cheers, On Tue, Feb 25, 2014 at 4:21 AM, Harshit Agarwal see.hars...@gmail.comwrote: This is not exactly a critical idea, but I would like the opinion of people working in this project before deciding upon it's implementation. Does the Plasma Media Center needs to have changing backgrounds? We can implement it as an option (user-select) in the settings menu. Regards, Harshit Agarwal. 3rd Year, Computer Science and Engineering, National Institute of Technology, Durgapur. Ph. No.: +91-8942031165 On Tue, Feb 25, 2014 at 12:07 AM, R.Harish Navnit harishnav...@gmail.com wrote: Hello all, I was unfortunate not to be there with you all for the conf.kde.in, which as I've been hearing was a huge success. I feel really gutted about the same. I'd have so dearly loved to have attended a few workshops on programming with Qt and KDE API's(if there were any). But another important thing that was mentioned to me was that during the conf.kde.in the ideas critical to PMC would be mentioned. I hope that there has been some resolution on the same. I'm starting this thread, hoping to hear some of the ideas that you may have. It'd be great if someone could spread some light on the current scenario on regarding the same. Maybe the next critical Idea stems from this thread :) Warm Regards. Thanking You, R.Harish Navnit The Enigma http://harishnavnit.wordpress.com ___ Plasma-devel mailing list Plasma-devel@kde.org https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/plasma-devel -- Shantanu Tushar(UTC +0530) http://www.shantanutushar.com ___ Plasma-devel mailing list Plasma-devel@kde.org https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/plasma-devel
