Re: KCM's and Plasma-desktop
On Mon, Oct 5, 2015 at 3:34 PM, Hannah von Reth wrote: > Hello People of Plasma, > > Many kcm in the plasma-desktop repo might be useful on Windows or Mac. > Which ones? David ___ Plasma-devel mailing list Plasma-devel@kde.org https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/plasma-devel
RE: KCM's and Plasma-desktop
Depending on whether we the themes configurable on Windows we could use deskopthemes and icons. Baloo could be useful. Emoticons? Maybe Style? Phonon, Knotifications. In some setups Translations might be useful. Maybe some more. From: da...@davidedmundson.co.uk Date: Mon, 5 Oct 2015 15:47:45 +0100 Subject: Re: KCM's and Plasma-desktop To: plasma-devel@kde.org On Mon, Oct 5, 2015 at 3:34 PM, Hannah von Reth wrote: Hello People of Plasma, Many kcm in the plasma-desktop repo might be useful on Windows or Mac. Which ones? David ___ Plasma-devel mailing list Plasma-devel@kde.org https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/plasma-devel ___ Plasma-devel mailing list Plasma-devel@kde.org https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/plasma-devel
Re: KCM's and Plasma-desktop
On Mon, Oct 5, 2015 at 5:20 PM, Hannah von Reth wrote: > Depending on whether we the themes configurable on Windows we could use > deskopthemes and icons. > > Baloo could be useful. > Emoticons? > Maybe Style? > Phonon, Knotifications. > In some setups Translations might be useful. > Maybe some more. or could have plasma-desktop a build very very limited on windows? like everything disabled from cmake except the few kcms? -- Marco Martin ___ Plasma-devel mailing list Plasma-devel@kde.org https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/plasma-devel
Re: KCM's and Plasma-desktop
On Mon, Oct 5, 2015 at 8:34 PM, Marco Martin wrote: > On Mon, Oct 5, 2015 at 5:20 PM, Hannah von Reth wrote: >> Depending on whether we the themes configurable on Windows we could use >> deskopthemes and icons. >> >> Baloo could be useful. If Baloo requires such a UI to be used elsewhere, I'd say it should be provided by Baloo. >> Emoticons? Same. >> Maybe Style? I doubt it, making just some Qt applications configurable on Windows is random. >> Phonon, Knotifications. >> In some setups Translations might be useful. >> Maybe some more. > > or could have plasma-desktop a build very very limited on windows? > like everything disabled from cmake except the few kcms? I'd say that we must require frameworks to be thorough in their multiplatform perspective and it's configurability. If an application needs a KCM to work properly, it should be provided by the framework, or otherwise the framework is crippled outside of Plasma. Aleix ___ Plasma-devel mailing list Plasma-devel@kde.org https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/plasma-devel
Re: KCM's and Plasma-desktop
On Monday, October 5, 2015 8:34:48 PM CEST Marco Martin wrote: > On Mon, Oct 5, 2015 at 5:20 PM, Hannah von Reth wrote: > > Depending on whether we the themes configurable on Windows we could use > > deskopthemes and icons. > > > > Baloo could be useful. > > Emoticons? > > Maybe Style? > > Phonon, Knotifications. > > In some setups Translations might be useful. > > Maybe some more. > > or could have plasma-desktop a build very very limited on windows? > like everything disabled from cmake except the few kcms? I think we should not go down this route again. We have been there and saw it was bad. In the end it means turning the primary windowing system we target (X11 and Wayland) optional. We don't have the resources to ensure that such combinations build, less even work. But at the same time it would increase development cost for everybody as we run into weird issues with compile failures, weird runtime bugs due to thinks which should be compiled with X11 not having X11, etc. I agree with what Aleix wrote: if a framework needs a KCM to be useable it needs to be in the framework. Cheers Martin signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. ___ Plasma-devel mailing list Plasma-devel@kde.org https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/plasma-devel
Re: KCM's and Plasma-desktop
On Mon, Oct 5, 2015 at 5:20 PM, Hannah von Reth wrote: > Baloo could be useful. Baloo is only for linux. Windows has its own search solution far superior to ours. -- Vishesh Handa ___ Plasma-devel mailing list Plasma-devel@kde.org https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/plasma-devel
Re: KCM's and Plasma-desktop
On Friday, October 09, 2015 01:30:25 PM Vishesh Handa wrote: > Baloo is only for linux. Windows has its own search solution far > superior to ours. I would not call it superior to ours, at least compared to Windows 8... That was just terrible. ___ Plasma-devel mailing list Plasma-devel@kde.org https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/plasma-devel
Re: KCM's and Plasma-desktop
On Fri, Oct 9, 2015 at 1:32 PM, wrote: > On Friday, October 09, 2015 01:30:25 PM Vishesh Handa wrote: >> Baloo is only for linux. Windows has its own search solution far >> superior to ours. > > I would not call it superior to ours, at least compared to Windows 8... That > was just terrible. I haven't tried out Windows 8, but I have read all their technical documentation regarding the implementation and architecture. We have some work to do :) But lets not make this thread about that. The end result is that Baloo is only for linux. -- Vishesh Handa ___ Plasma-devel mailing list Plasma-devel@kde.org https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/plasma-devel
Re: KCM's and Plasma-desktop
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Am 09.10.2015 um 13:30 schrieb Vishesh Handa: > On Mon, Oct 5, 2015 at 5:20 PM, Hannah von Reth > wrote: >> Baloo could be useful. > > Baloo is only for linux. Windows has its own search solution far > superior to ours. Well, I wouldn't remove the possibility to have a *free* and opensource search solution available on Windows, even if there are other solutions that seem to be far better; There should be a really really good reason for that, there won't be users cannot even count as an argument. There will be people in the future that will attempt to get everything running on Windows as well, I am pretty sure of that, and then this decision will only make their way unnecessarily harder. regards, Patrick -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v2.0.21 (MingW32) iQIcBAEBAgAGBQJWF6vrAAoJEPAKI6QtGt1xPzMP/AklOWk0HpCpbo58vv/pQgZY +yu3i7oozH0IspkACzBPx36WsZqF6LWzrfvMsYfb2cTIOHQeHeusoKAa1BxQ2Kpj cusZ1HEPSyLcuX7EX6Lsu2ozMNdqSQBiHR4qilFgg2X3g46TWU66jx5OBw4W9PiZ U+bJQJD1xhJ6hLQCkOD3UgWZ4evwZOtZFCCRaBeFInETs1WLLzIZAGBsfW8znqbR z0/54CvbmtPJrpCTUyDohU2kdWWqALvB2xJkOPCNzUJThuie7JBR707n6Zyo/yAu NEsR8UNVuMSMT6JgqZHFWsIv6IvSwSppewNdqWo37/wcqCGhEf9WGl625/xzx3Ng iayxamydn4VCQiLOqCPMhaL/W0zOt+6i66+3KZwUNcMmp/SIBsAOxIexzjyD8PcM XYAokdjFBjoLkwmlUYvypXZXUoGM8c77GgjzNNaFzbOk23VqYPPgyh0Rd9b0DZmp 2kKFOCdaMSU6PO2EP50sdfOQyxgI8R/yK7zSQHG4fxGQKAuy5LmKh6JTQOfC8br/ AJyj4ZDh5Z/r1fk/HM+bMn1FGdbXwgfX9kHORM9+lDl8LiO53rKE+YOIXRRwqMWD pUdhq45laxKDKQMeK9+tckq7R/7oZGLQDHD6b33Ptx+me4uH96bG7SZlmx0fGno/ maislStv5WqozXcWGuTP =q9NB -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Plasma-devel mailing list Plasma-devel@kde.org https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/plasma-devel
Re: KCM's and Plasma-desktop
On Fri, Oct 9, 2015 at 6:33 PM, Dāvis Mosāns wrote: > 2015-10-09 14:30 GMT+03:00 Vishesh Handa : >> On Mon, Oct 5, 2015 at 5:20 PM, Hannah von Reth wrote: >>> Baloo could be useful. >> >> Baloo is only for linux. Windows has its own search solution far >> superior to ours. >> > > What's so superior about Windows search? To me Baloo seems superior :P > I've been using Windows for years and since XP, search rarely works > correctly, I mean sometimes it doesn't find files which are there or > doesn't find > string even if it is inside a file so I actually use [1] TextCrawler > which is best > search tool I've found. That's unrelated to how to distribute the components in Plasma on Windows. Let's stay on topic... Aleix ___ Plasma-devel mailing list Plasma-devel@kde.org https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/plasma-devel
Re: KCM's and Plasma-desktop
2015-10-09 14:30 GMT+03:00 Vishesh Handa : > On Mon, Oct 5, 2015 at 5:20 PM, Hannah von Reth wrote: >> Baloo could be useful. > > Baloo is only for linux. Windows has its own search solution far > superior to ours. > What's so superior about Windows search? To me Baloo seems superior :P I've been using Windows for years and since XP, search rarely works correctly, I mean sometimes it doesn't find files which are there or doesn't find string even if it is inside a file so I actually use [1] TextCrawler which is best search tool I've found. [1] http://www.digitalvolcano.co.uk/tcscreenshots.html ___ Plasma-devel mailing list Plasma-devel@kde.org https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/plasma-devel
