Re: plasmate status?

2010-10-18 Thread Aaron J. Seigo
On Monday, October 18, 2010, Chani wrote:
> to demo plasmate - but when I tried to compile it it wanted qgpgme, and I

qgpgme is in kdepimlibs.

> are there plasmate packages or anything? 

binary packages? i don't think so, no.

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Re: plasmate status?

2010-10-18 Thread todd rme
On Mon, Oct 18, 2010 at 11:53 AM, Chani  wrote:
> On October 18, 2010 17:19:53 Aaron J. Seigo wrote:
>> > are there plasmate packages or anything?
>>
>> binary packages? i don't think so, no.
>
> darn... eh, I'll probably just do the demo in kate or qt creator then.

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Re: plasmate status?

2010-10-18 Thread Aaron J. Seigo
On Monday, October 18, 2010, Chani wrote:
> On October 18, 2010 17:19:53 Aaron J. Seigo wrote:
> > On Monday, October 18, 2010, Chani wrote:
> > > to demo plasmate - but when I tried to compile it it wanted qgpgme, and
> > > I
> > 
> > qgpgme is in kdepimlibs.
> 
> ah, I don't have that and don't intend to.

given that things in kdepimlibs are fairly widely used and that it isn't all 
that big, i'd recommend installing it, tbh.

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Re: plasmate status?

2010-10-18 Thread Martin Gräßlin
On Monday 18 October 2010 18:57:59 Marco Martin wrote:
> On Monday 18 October 2010, Chani wrote:
> > On October 18, 2010 18:26:47 Aaron J. Seigo wrote:
> > > On Monday, October 18, 2010, Chani wrote:
> > > > On October 18, 2010 17:19:53 Aaron J. Seigo wrote:
> > > > > On Monday, October 18, 2010, Chani wrote:
> > > > > > to demo plasmate - but when I tried to compile it it wanted
> > > > > > qgpgme, and I
> > > > > 
> > > > > qgpgme is in kdepimlibs.
> > > > 
> > > > ah, I don't have that and don't intend to.
> > > 
> > > given that things in kdepimlibs are fairly widely used and that it
> > > isn't all that big, i'd recommend installing it, tbh.
> > 
> > wouldn't it upset kdepim 4.4?
> > given the changes in kdepim 4.5 I'd rather play it safe :) I'm probably
> > lucky that kdepim and kdelibs still get along all right (ish).
> 
> i'm using kdepim 4.4 with pimlibs trunk since a while, probably isn't a
> wise thing to do, but seems to work decently so far
works pretty well here too for ever since I switched to 4.5. It's also what 
Kubuntu does for example in 10.10: kdepim 4.4 with kdepimlibs 4.5


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Re: plasmate status?

2010-10-18 Thread Will Stephenson
On Monday 18 October 2010 16:08:33 Chani wrote:
> are there plasmate packages or anything? my system is a bit old, but maybe
> the  image we'll be using for the workshop will have the dependencies I'm
> missing...
Version 0.1alpha2 is packaged here, and builds vs trunk still:

https://build.opensuse.org/package/show?package=plasmate&project=KDE:Unstable:Playground

I can include it on the image if it is still useful.

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Re: plasmate status?

2010-10-18 Thread John Layt
On Monday 18 October 2010 17:57:59 Marco Martin wrote:
> On Monday 18 October 2010, Chani wrote:
> > wouldn't it upset kdepim 4.4?
> > given the changes in kdepim 4.5 I'd rather play it safe :) I'm probably
> > lucky that kdepim and kdelibs still get along all right (ish).
> 
> i'm using kdepim 4.4 with pimlibs trunk since a while, probably isn't a
> wise thing to do, but seems to work decently so far

Nope, should work fine, backwards compatible and all that, kdepim 4.4 
continues to use the older parts of kdepimlibs, only kdepim 4.5 uses the new 
stuff and it's the kdepim side that is problamatic, not kdepimlibs.

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Re: Plasmate status

2011-03-17 Thread Alexander Potashev
The following simple change fixes build for me (otherwise the compiler
complains about missing gpgme.h):

diff --git a/publisher/signingwidget.cpp b/publisher/signingwidget.cpp
index c5a8895..744cfc1 100644
--- a/publisher/signingwidget.cpp
+++ b/publisher/signingwidget.cpp
@@ -37,7 +37,7 @@

 #define _FILE_OFFSET_BITS 64

-#include 
+#include 
 #include 
 #include 
 #include 



2011/3/17 Sebastian Kügler :
> Hi,
>
> I've spent a few days working on various aspects of Plasmate, our little Add-
> On creator application. Newest screenshots:


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Re: Plasmate status

2011-03-17 Thread Sebastian Kügler
On Thursday, March 17, 2011 17:46:19 Alexander Potashev wrote:
> The following simple change fixes build for me (otherwise the compiler
> complains about missing gpgme.h):
> 
> diff --git a/publisher/signingwidget.cpp b/publisher/signingwidget.cpp
> index c5a8895..744cfc1 100644
> --- a/publisher/signingwidget.cpp
> +++ b/publisher/signingwidget.cpp
> -#include 
> +#include 

I've instead added ${GPGME_INCLUDE} to the include path, can you test if it 
build for you now (without your patch)?

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Re: Plasmate status

2011-03-18 Thread Alexander Potashev
2011/3/17 Sebastian Kügler :
> I've instead added ${GPGME_INCLUDE} to the include path, can you test if it
> build for you now (without your patch)?

It builds now, thanks.


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Re: Plasmate Status

2009-06-29 Thread Yuen Hoe Lim
Adding on to that I've since added a new overlay menu to allow the
user to select which wallpaper plugin currently installed to use as
the previewer background (so having different wallpapers is now
possible to degree!). I've also spoken briefly to aseigo about
previewing plasmoids without actually installing them and am working
on adding support for that at the moment. Next I plan to work on
addressing the 'overlay doesn't work nicely when previewer is small'
problem, as discussed with Shaan7.

By the way I'm committing every bite-size enhancements I'm making, so
you could get a pretty good idea what I've been doing by simply
browsing the svn logs for plasmate :P

On 6/29/09, Shantanu Tushar Jha  wrote:
> Hi all !
> Last IRC meet we had decided that we'll have a mail about the current
> development status of Plasmate every two weeks. It has been two weeks
> since.
> AFAIK, moofang is working on the previewer on the ideas discussed
> earlier and Diego is working on the Git integration using
> kdevplatform.
> I've not been able to write any code as I've final exams right now.
> Will join moofang after my exams end on 10th next month.
> Guys, add more info about the things I missed.
> Lets make Plasmate rock :)
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Re: Plasmate Status

2009-06-29 Thread Diego Casella ([Po]lentino)
Yep, you're right !
As you saw in the mailing list, there was a problem with managing the git
pluging, which was *partially* resolved.
In fact the code suggested wasn't totally correct, so I started to talk with
apaku, a  KDeveloper and Plugin designer,
and I discovered that first, I have to subclass the ShellExtension class in
order to setup the KDevplatform stuff, then init()
that class, after that retrieve a reference to the Core and use it to
retrieve the IPluginController by calling pluginController().
Nice, but an other problem arose:
when calling pluginForExtension() to recieve a pointer to the git plugin, it
returns an invalid pointer all the times =(
Talking to apaku, the reason is because i set-up the Core class with the
option Core::NoUi, and git sometimes wants to show some gui stuff,
like committing with comments. Besides, initalizing the Core with
Core::Default creates a full KDevelop gui, which is not our goal !
So, under his suggestion, now I'm using the plugins/git/gitplugin.cpp and
I'm modifying the source for our purposes =)
I'll commit it as soon as it compiles ( and also works =P ).
Good luck with you exams,

Cheers !!





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> From: Shantanu Tushar Jha 
> To: plasma-devel@kde.org
> Date: Mon, 29 Jun 2009 17:58:02 +0530
> Subject: Plasmate Status
> Hi all !
> Last IRC meet we had decided that we'll have a mail about the current
> development status of Plasmate every two weeks. It has been two weeks
> since.
> AFAIK, moofang is working on the previewer on the ideas discussed
> earlier and Diego is working on the Git integration using
> kdevplatform.
> I've not been able to write any code as I've final exams right now.
> Will join moofang after my exams end on 10th next month.
> Guys, add more info about the things I missed.
> Lets make Plasmate rock :)
>
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Re: Plasmate Status

2009-06-29 Thread Aaron J. Seigo
On Monday 29 June 2009, Diego Casella ([Po]lentino) wrote:
> Yep, you're right !
> As you saw in the mailing list, there was a problem with managing the git
> pluging, which was *partially* resolved.

quite the story...

> like committing with comments. Besides, initalizing the Core with
> Core::Default creates a full KDevelop gui, which is not our goal !

that sounds like a very serious shortcoming of the kdevplatform.

> So, under his suggestion, now I'm using the plugins/git/gitplugin.cpp and
> I'm modifying the source for our purposes =)

define "using" .. did you just copy it directly into plasmate, or are you 
using the plugin in a more direct fashion, or ...?

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Re: Plasmate status

2009-07-13 Thread Yuen Hoe Lim
Hi guys,

On the previewer end we're more or less done function-wise, as far as
I can tell :) Since previous update, I've added support for loading
plasmoids by path (so you don't need to install them beforehand), as
well as modified the tool menus so that it uses a KMenu instead of the
current overlay when the previewer is too small. The rest should just
be aesthetic improvements... or am I missing something?

I'm presently trying to find out why we can't type anything into the
textfield that appears when we try to create a new project, but not
having much luck since I'm clueless with gui designer ui's =(

I agree that a directory tree on the sidebar would be more useful by
the way, that's what I always envisioned before :P How bout having the
current sidebar items as smaller, overhead buttons instead? I don't
think we need that much real-estate for just buttons :P

On 7/14/09, Diego Casella ([Po]lentino)  wrote:
> Hi guys,
> other two weeks are gone, so it's time  to sinc() with each other about
> PlasMate status, IIRC =)
> Now the TimeLine loads all the commits within the current branch, and also
> all the commits that lead
> to that branch ( I'm thinking to make  that feature selectable by user, to
> decrease the widget length ).
> For each item, a tooltip shows the author who made the commit, the date and
> the stored message.
> In the top of the list is located the current working state of the project,
> marked as "Not Saved".
> The lower item holds the working branch, and its tooltip shows the other
> available branches.
> I also modified the GitRunner class, because the previous implementation
> caused the app to not close.
> Now I'm working on handling properly signals and slots, so we can have an
> almost working timeline
> within this week !
> By the way, do we *really* need the sidebar ? Each item can be found in the
> final release of plasmate
> under the menubar, so I was wondering if we can replace it with something
> more useful like a directory tree list ...
> Let me know about this, and also your ideas; lets make PlasMate rocks =)
>
> Cheers !!
>


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Re: Plasmate status

2009-07-14 Thread Artur Souza (MoRpHeUz)
Hello :)

On Monday 13 July 2009, 13:48 Diego Casella ([Po]lentino) wrote:
> By the way, do we *really* need the sidebar ? Each item can be found in the
> final release of plasmate
> under the menubar, so I was wondering if we can replace it with something
> more useful like a directory tree list ...

Hmmm...remember that we are trying to do this for "non-core-developers"...what 
means that it can't look too much developer..it must be beautiful and 
attractiveI really don't know the impact of having menu entries for all the 
stuff that is in the sidebar. Maybe making the sidebar something smaller, at 
the 
top (like a toolbar)let's hear aseigo's opinion about this :)

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Re: Plasmate status

2009-07-14 Thread Michael Rudolph
On Tue, Jul 14, 2009 at 14:09, Artur Souza
(MoRpHeUz) wrote:
> Hello :)
>
> On Monday 13 July 2009, 13:48 Diego Casella ([Po]lentino) wrote:
>> By the way, do we *really* need the sidebar ? Each item can be found in the
>> final release of plasmate
>> under the menubar, so I was wondering if we can replace it with something
>> more useful like a directory tree list ...
>
> Hmmm...remember that we are trying to do this for "non-core-developers"...what
> means that it can't look too much developer..it must be beautiful and
> attractiveI really don't know the impact of having menu entries for all 
> the
> stuff that is in the sidebar. Maybe making the sidebar something smaller, at 
> the
> top (like a toolbar)let's hear aseigo's opinion about this :)
>
> Cheers,
>

Hello everyone,

are there already any screenshots available? Or is an early look
restricted only to those who are willing to compile plasmate?

I really enjoyed the specs that Aaron put up on techbase, but after
reading about the progress every now and then, I'm wondering if we are
on track to meet the goals set forth in said document.

I did some mockups, back when Aaron posted the specs and I'd like to
update them with what you guys have done so far. Perhaps I can even
come up with some ideas for the sidebar.

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Re: Plasmate status

2009-07-14 Thread Yuen Hoe Lim
There isn't much to look at now I think :P If you want I can grab a
bunch of screenshots and post them on a blog or something - unless
there is a rule of sorts against previewing unreleased stuff or the
like?

On 7/14/09, Michael Rudolph  wrote:
> On Tue, Jul 14, 2009 at 14:09, Artur Souza
> (MoRpHeUz) wrote:
>> Hello :)
>>
>> On Monday 13 July 2009, 13:48 Diego Casella ([Po]lentino) wrote:
>>> By the way, do we *really* need the sidebar ? Each item can be found in
>>> the
>>> final release of plasmate
>>> under the menubar, so I was wondering if we can replace it with something
>>> more useful like a directory tree list ...
>>
>> Hmmm...remember that we are trying to do this for
>> "non-core-developers"...what
>> means that it can't look too much developer..it must be beautiful and
>> attractiveI really don't know the impact of having menu entries for
>> all the
>> stuff that is in the sidebar. Maybe making the sidebar something smaller,
>> at the
>> top (like a toolbar)let's hear aseigo's opinion about this :)
>>
>> Cheers,
>>
>
> Hello everyone,
>
> are there already any screenshots available? Or is an early look
> restricted only to those who are willing to compile plasmate?
>
> I really enjoyed the specs that Aaron put up on techbase, but after
> reading about the progress every now and then, I'm wondering if we are
> on track to meet the goals set forth in said document.
>
> I did some mockups, back when Aaron posted the specs and I'd like to
> update them with what you guys have done so far. Perhaps I can even
> come up with some ideas for the sidebar.
>
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Re: Plasmate status

2009-07-14 Thread Michael Rudolph
On Tue, Jul 14, 2009 at 16:16, Yuen Hoe Lim wrote:
> There isn't much to look at now I think :P If you want I can grab a
> bunch of screenshots and post them on a blog or something - unless
> there is a rule of sorts against previewing unreleased stuff or the
> like?
>

Hi Yuen,

yeah, that's basically the question. Well, if there's no such rule,
I'd definitely be interested in some screenshots, when you find the
time.

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Re: Plasmate status

2009-07-14 Thread Aaron J. Seigo
On Monday 13 July 2009, Diego Casella ([Po]lentino) wrote:
> By the way, do we *really* need the sidebar ? 

which sidebar? the one for the timeline?

> Each item can be found in the
> final release of plasmate
> under the menubar, so I was wondering if we can replace it with something
> more useful like a directory tree list ...

replace what with a directory tree listing of what? this sentence is really 
too vague for me to answer

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Re: Plasmate status

2009-07-15 Thread Shantanu Tushar Jha
On Mon, Jul 13, 2009 at 10:18 PM, Diego Casella ([Po]lentino)
 wrote:
>
> Hi guys,
> other two weeks are gone, so it's time  to sinc() with each other about 
> PlasMate status, IIRC =)
> Now the TimeLine loads all the commits within the current branch, and also 
> all the commits that lead
> to that branch ( I'm thinking to make  that feature selectable by user, to 
> decrease the widget length ).
> For each item, a tooltip shows the author who made the commit, the date and 
> the stored message.
> In the top of the list is located the current working state of the project, 
> marked as "Not Saved".
> The lower item holds the working branch, and its tooltip shows the other 
> available branches.
> I also modified the GitRunner class, because the previous implementation 
> caused the app to not close.
> Now I'm working on handling properly signals and slots, so we can have an 
> almost working timeline
> within this week !
> By the way, do we *really* need the sidebar ? Each item can be found in the 
> final release of plasmate
> under the menubar, so I was wondering if we can replace it with something 
> more useful like a directory tree list ...

If you're talking about a directory tree list of all the files, I
think It'll be much like an IDE. There's no need to display it as
such. We can just have a list of files. As pointed out, being simple
is one of Plasmate's primary goals.
IMO lets have the sidebar smaller and maybe positioned just below the
menu by default.

>
>
> Let me know about this, and also your ideas; lets make PlasMate rocks =)
>
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Re: Plasmate status

2009-07-15 Thread Shantanu Tushar Jha
On 7/14/09, Yuen Hoe Lim  wrote:
> Hi guys,
>
> On the previewer end we're more or less done function-wise, as far as
> I can tell :) Since previous update, I've added support for loading
> plasmoids by path (so you don't need to install them beforehand), as
> well as modified the tool menus so that it uses a KMenu instead of the
> current overlay when the previewer is too small. The rest should just
> be aesthetic improvements... or am I missing something?

I still miss the overlay. Wanted to know from others which of the
following is better -

option 1: Use a KMenu when the previewer is small, and an Overlay when
the previewer's size is sufficient.
option 2: Always use a KMenu.

IMO, having an overlay gives a visual feeling of being 'Plasma'.

Opinions?
>
> I'm presently trying to find out why we can't type anything into the
> textfield that appears when we try to create a new project, but not
> having much luck since I'm clueless with gui designer ui's =(
>
> I agree that a directory tree on the sidebar would be more useful by
> the way, that's what I always envisioned before :P How bout having the
> current sidebar items as smaller, overhead buttons instead? I don't
> think we need that much real-estate for just buttons :P
>
> On 7/14/09, Diego Casella ([Po]lentino)  wrote:
>> Hi guys,
>> other two weeks are gone, so it's time  to sinc() with each other about
>> PlasMate status, IIRC =)
>> Now the TimeLine loads all the commits within the current branch, and also
>> all the commits that lead
>> to that branch ( I'm thinking to make  that feature selectable by user, to
>> decrease the widget length ).
>> For each item, a tooltip shows the author who made the commit, the date
>> and
>> the stored message.
>> In the top of the list is located the current working state of the
>> project,
>> marked as "Not Saved".
>> The lower item holds the working branch, and its tooltip shows the other
>> available branches.
>> I also modified the GitRunner class, because the previous implementation
>> caused the app to not close.
>> Now I'm working on handling properly signals and slots, so we can have an
>> almost working timeline
>> within this week !
>> By the way, do we *really* need the sidebar ? Each item can be found in
>> the
>> final release of plasmate
>> under the menubar, so I was wondering if we can replace it with something
>> more useful like a directory tree list ...
>> Let me know about this, and also your ideas; lets make PlasMate rocks =)
>>
>> Cheers !!
>>
>
>
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Re: Plasmate status

2009-07-15 Thread Artur Souza (MoRpHeUz)
On Wednesday 15 July 2009, 04:11 Shantanu Tushar Jha wrote:
> option 1: Use a KMenu when the previewer is small, and an Overlay when
> the previewer's size is sufficient.

I would go with option 1. We really want to have a Plasma look&feel ;)

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Re: Plasmate status

2009-07-15 Thread Aaron J. Seigo
On Wednesday 15 July 2009, Diego Casella ([Po]lentino) wrote:
> I've attached some screenshots showing the current interface and the
> timeline I'm coding;

branches ... it's neat to see that in there, but let's be sure to keep them as 
a detail for more advanced usage. people using plasmate should not need to 
understand anything about revision control systems to use it.

> P.S. : /me thinks that could be a good idea starting a personal blog too =P

yes :)

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Re: Plasmate status

2009-07-15 Thread Yuen Hoe Lim
More screenies! http://yuenhoe.co.cc/blog/2009/07/some-early-plasmate-screenies/
I don't know how to work the timeline stuff yet so you'd have to refer
to Diego's attachments for those :)

As I was saying to Shantanu, I think KMenu's have two main advantages
despite the not-so-shiny look: the overlay has visibility issues with
certain types of backgrounds (since it's semi-translucent), and KMenu
is easily keyboard accessible, while the overlay isn't.

Well, I suppose it should be possible to fix up the overlay for the
accessibility part...

On 7/15/09, Aaron J. Seigo  wrote:
> On Wednesday 15 July 2009, Diego Casella ([Po]lentino) wrote:
>> I've attached some screenshots showing the current interface and the
>> timeline I'm coding;
>
> branches ... it's neat to see that in there, but let's be sure to keep them
> as
> a detail for more advanced usage. people using plasmate should not need to
> understand anything about revision control systems to use it.
>
>> P.S. : /me thinks that could be a good idea starting a personal blog too
>> =P
>
> yes :)
>
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Re: Plasmate status

2009-07-15 Thread Richard Dale
On Wed, Jul 15, 2009 at 1:52 PM, Artur Souza
(MoRpHeUz) wrote:
> On Wednesday 15 July 2009, 04:11 Shantanu Tushar Jha wrote:
>> option 1: Use a KMenu when the previewer is small, and an Overlay when
>> the previewer's size is sufficient.
>
> I would go with option 1. We really want to have a Plasma look&feel ;)
That's interesting - I've been wondering what a KDE app with Plasma
look&feel would look like recently. Maybe we can use it as a reference
example if we need to cut down apps to look good on a netbook?

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Re: Plasmate status

2009-07-15 Thread Michael Rudolph
On Wed, Jul 15, 2009 at 16:54, Yuen Hoe Lim wrote:
> More screenies! 
> http://yuenhoe.co.cc/blog/2009/07/some-early-plasmate-screenies/
> I don't know how to work the timeline stuff yet so you'd have to refer
> to Diego's attachments for those :)
>
> As I was saying to Shantanu, I think KMenu's have two main advantages
> despite the not-so-shiny look: the overlay has visibility issues with
> certain types of backgrounds (since it's semi-translucent), and KMenu
> is easily keyboard accessible, while the overlay isn't.
>
> Well, I suppose it should be possible to fix up the overlay for the
> accessibility part...
>

Hi Yuen, hi Diego,

thank you very much for the screenshots. I'll go over my mockups again
and post them, when they're ready. Perhaps you will find some ideas
useful.

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Re: Plasmate status

2009-07-15 Thread Shantanu Tushar Jha
Yes, the keyboard navigation can probably be added without any difficulty.

On 7/15/09, Yuen Hoe Lim  wrote:
> More screenies!
> http://yuenhoe.co.cc/blog/2009/07/some-early-plasmate-screenies/
> I don't know how to work the timeline stuff yet so you'd have to refer
> to Diego's attachments for those :)
>
> As I was saying to Shantanu, I think KMenu's have two main advantages
> despite the not-so-shiny look: the overlay has visibility issues with
> certain types of backgrounds (since it's semi-translucent), and KMenu
> is easily keyboard accessible, while the overlay isn't.
>
> Well, I suppose it should be possible to fix up the overlay for the
> accessibility part...
>
> On 7/15/09, Aaron J. Seigo  wrote:
>> On Wednesday 15 July 2009, Diego Casella ([Po]lentino) wrote:
>>> I've attached some screenshots showing the current interface and the
>>> timeline I'm coding;
>>
>> branches ... it's neat to see that in there, but let's be sure to keep
>> them
>> as
>> a detail for more advanced usage. people using plasmate should not need to
>> understand anything about revision control systems to use it.
>>
>>> P.S. : /me thinks that could be a good idea starting a personal blog too
>>> =P
>>
>> yes :)
>>
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Re: Plasmate status

2009-07-15 Thread Michael Rudolph
Hello everyone,

I almost feel bad for asking you for the screenshots. You were of
course right, there is not much to see yet in terms of workflow and
other interactions.

I think I understand your concerns with the sidebar now. And I agree
with you completely; see my mockups.

http://skitch.com/michaelrudolph/ba3j9/plasmate-editor2
http://skitch.com/michaelrudolph/ba3cg/plasmate-editor-timeline

If that looks like a viable basis for a plasmate design, I'd gladly
answer your questions. I'd also redo the start screen, that's missing
right now. My ideas about it have changed a bit since I did my first
mockups.

Let me hear what you're thinking.

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Re: Plasmate status

2009-07-19 Thread Shantanu Tushar Jha
On Tue, Jul 14, 2009 at 9:43 AM, Yuen Hoe Lim  wrote:

> Hi guys,
>
> On the previewer end we're more or less done function-wise, as far as
> I can tell :) Since previous update, I've added support for loading
> plasmoids by path (so you don't need to install them beforehand), as
> well as modified the tool menus so that it uses a KMenu instead of the
> current overlay when the previewer is too small. The rest should just
> be aesthetic improvements... or am I missing something?
>
> I'm presently trying to find out why we can't type anything into the
> textfield that appears when we try to create a new project, but not
> having much luck since I'm clueless with gui designer ui's =(
>

As I found out, its a problem with the validChars property in the
projectName widget in startpage.ui which is of type KRestrictedLine. It
seems it doesn't accept regular expressions ( I tried [a-z] but it only
accepted 'a' when I typed). Currently validChars is set to ^[\\w-\\.]+$ .

We could put qwertyuiopasdfghjklzxcvbnm there, but I think there should be a
better way. Any ideas?

(I've also CCed this mail to the author of KRestrictedLine widget).


> I agree that a directory tree on the sidebar would be more useful by
> the way, that's what I always envisioned before :P How bout having the
> current sidebar items as smaller, overhead buttons instead? I don't
> think we need that much real-estate for just buttons :P
>
> On 7/14/09, Diego Casella ([Po]lentino)  wrote:
> > Hi guys,
> > other two weeks are gone, so it's time  to sinc() with each other about
> > PlasMate status, IIRC =)
> > Now the TimeLine loads all the commits within the current branch, and
> also
> > all the commits that lead
> > to that branch ( I'm thinking to make  that feature selectable by user,
> to
> > decrease the widget length ).
> > For each item, a tooltip shows the author who made the commit, the date
> and
> > the stored message.
> > In the top of the list is located the current working state of the
> project,
> > marked as "Not Saved".
> > The lower item holds the working branch, and its tooltip shows the other
> > available branches.
> > I also modified the GitRunner class, because the previous implementation
> > caused the app to not close.
> > Now I'm working on handling properly signals and slots, so we can have an
> > almost working timeline
> > within this week !
> > By the way, do we *really* need the sidebar ? Each item can be found in
> the
> > final release of plasmate
> > under the menubar, so I was wondering if we can replace it with something
> > more useful like a directory tree list ...
> > Let me know about this, and also your ideas; lets make PlasMate rocks =)
> >
> > Cheers !!
> >
>
>
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Re: Plasmate status

2009-07-20 Thread Yuen Hoe Lim
Yep, it doesn't seem to accept regular expressions - but a string
containing every permitted character..

http://api.kde.org/4.x-api/kdelibs-apidocs/kdeui/html/classKRestrictedLine.html#f30d883fc60f67be39e8ffa039842cd6

I've tried, and it actually does allow me to type every character in
the expression (like '[' and '$') =/ It doesn't seem like a pretty
thing to do 'qwertyQWERTY012345etcetc' so maybe we could try a regular
KLineEdit and do some form of validation?

On 7/20/09, Shantanu Tushar Jha  wrote:
> On Tue, Jul 14, 2009 at 9:43 AM, Yuen Hoe Lim  wrote:
>
>> Hi guys,
>>
>> On the previewer end we're more or less done function-wise, as far as
>> I can tell :) Since previous update, I've added support for loading
>> plasmoids by path (so you don't need to install them beforehand), as
>> well as modified the tool menus so that it uses a KMenu instead of the
>> current overlay when the previewer is too small. The rest should just
>> be aesthetic improvements... or am I missing something?
>>
>> I'm presently trying to find out why we can't type anything into the
>> textfield that appears when we try to create a new project, but not
>> having much luck since I'm clueless with gui designer ui's =(
>>
>
> As I found out, its a problem with the validChars property in the
> projectName widget in startpage.ui which is of type KRestrictedLine. It
> seems it doesn't accept regular expressions ( I tried [a-z] but it only
> accepted 'a' when I typed). Currently validChars is set to ^[\\w-\\.]+$ .
>
> We could put qwertyuiopasdfghjklzxcvbnm there, but I think there should be a
> better way. Any ideas?
>
> (I've also CCed this mail to the author of KRestrictedLine widget).
>
>
>> I agree that a directory tree on the sidebar would be more useful by
>> the way, that's what I always envisioned before :P How bout having the
>> current sidebar items as smaller, overhead buttons instead? I don't
>> think we need that much real-estate for just buttons :P
>>
>> On 7/14/09, Diego Casella ([Po]lentino)  wrote:
>> > Hi guys,
>> > other two weeks are gone, so it's time  to sinc() with each other about
>> > PlasMate status, IIRC =)
>> > Now the TimeLine loads all the commits within the current branch, and
>> also
>> > all the commits that lead
>> > to that branch ( I'm thinking to make  that feature selectable by user,
>> to
>> > decrease the widget length ).
>> > For each item, a tooltip shows the author who made the commit, the date
>> and
>> > the stored message.
>> > In the top of the list is located the current working state of the
>> project,
>> > marked as "Not Saved".
>> > The lower item holds the working branch, and its tooltip shows the other
>> > available branches.
>> > I also modified the GitRunner class, because the previous implementation
>> > caused the app to not close.
>> > Now I'm working on handling properly signals and slots, so we can have
>> > an
>> > almost working timeline
>> > within this week !
>> > By the way, do we *really* need the sidebar ? Each item can be found in
>> the
>> > final release of plasmate
>> > under the menubar, so I was wondering if we can replace it with
>> > something
>> > more useful like a directory tree list ...
>> > Let me know about this, and also your ideas; lets make PlasMate rocks =)
>> >
>> > Cheers !!
>> >
>>
>>
>> --
>> 
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Re: Plasmate status

2009-07-20 Thread Richard Moore
On Mon, Jul 20, 2009 at 2:59 PM, Yuen Hoe Lim wrote:
> thing to do 'qwertyQWERTY012345etcetc' so maybe we could try a regular
> KLineEdit and do some form of validation?

See QRegExpValidator, that's what I used to validate stuff in the
.desktop file editor in plasmate.

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Re: Plasmate status

2009-07-20 Thread Shantanu Tushar Jha
On Mon, Jul 20, 2009 at 7:29 PM, Yuen Hoe Lim  wrote:

> Yep, it doesn't seem to accept regular expressions - but a string
> containing every permitted character..
>
>
> http://api.kde.org/4.x-api/kdelibs-apidocs/kdeui/html/classKRestrictedLine.html#f30d883fc60f67be39e8ffa039842cd6
>
> I've tried, and it actually does allow me to type every character in
> the expression (like '[' and '$') =/ It doesn't seem like a pretty
> thing to do 'qwertyQWERTY012345etcetc' so maybe we could try a regular
> KLineEdit and do some form of validation?


For that we've to find out what characters make a valid project name (if
there is a restriction as such, say, on name of a Plasmoid).
Help wanted from others. Guys?

Also, It'd be very nice If you're logged on #plasma whenever you're online
as it helps a lot in discussion. (I have many times tried to catch you
online, but in vain ;)


>
> On 7/20/09, Shantanu Tushar Jha  wrote:
> > On Tue, Jul 14, 2009 at 9:43 AM, Yuen Hoe Lim 
> wrote:
> >
> >> Hi guys,
> >>
> >> On the previewer end we're more or less done function-wise, as far as
> >> I can tell :) Since previous update, I've added support for loading
> >> plasmoids by path (so you don't need to install them beforehand), as
> >> well as modified the tool menus so that it uses a KMenu instead of the
> >> current overlay when the previewer is too small. The rest should just
> >> be aesthetic improvements... or am I missing something?
> >>
> >> I'm presently trying to find out why we can't type anything into the
> >> textfield that appears when we try to create a new project, but not
> >> having much luck since I'm clueless with gui designer ui's =(
> >>
> >
> > As I found out, its a problem with the validChars property in the
> > projectName widget in startpage.ui which is of type KRestrictedLine. It
> > seems it doesn't accept regular expressions ( I tried [a-z] but it only
> > accepted 'a' when I typed). Currently validChars is set to ^[\\w-\\.]+$ .
> >
> > We could put qwertyuiopasdfghjklzxcvbnm there, but I think there should
> be a
> > better way. Any ideas?
> >
> > (I've also CCed this mail to the author of KRestrictedLine widget).
> >
> >
> >> I agree that a directory tree on the sidebar would be more useful by
> >> the way, that's what I always envisioned before :P How bout having the
> >> current sidebar items as smaller, overhead buttons instead? I don't
> >> think we need that much real-estate for just buttons :P
> >>
> >> On 7/14/09, Diego Casella ([Po]lentino)  wrote:
> >> > Hi guys,
> >> > other two weeks are gone, so it's time  to sinc() with each other
> about
> >> > PlasMate status, IIRC =)
> >> > Now the TimeLine loads all the commits within the current branch, and
> >> also
> >> > all the commits that lead
> >> > to that branch ( I'm thinking to make  that feature selectable by
> user,
> >> to
> >> > decrease the widget length ).
> >> > For each item, a tooltip shows the author who made the commit, the
> date
> >> and
> >> > the stored message.
> >> > In the top of the list is located the current working state of the
> >> project,
> >> > marked as "Not Saved".
> >> > The lower item holds the working branch, and its tooltip shows the
> other
> >> > available branches.
> >> > I also modified the GitRunner class, because the previous
> implementation
> >> > caused the app to not close.
> >> > Now I'm working on handling properly signals and slots, so we can have
> >> > an
> >> > almost working timeline
> >> > within this week !
> >> > By the way, do we *really* need the sidebar ? Each item can be found
> in
> >> the
> >> > final release of plasmate
> >> > under the menubar, so I was wondering if we can replace it with
> >> > something
> >> > more useful like a directory tree list ...
> >> > Let me know about this, and also your ideas; lets make PlasMate rocks
> =)
> >> >
> >> > Cheers !!
> >> >
> >>
> >>
> >> --
> >> 
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Re: Plasmate Status

2009-07-27 Thread Diego Casella ([Po]lentino)
Hi Shantanu,
The timeline is fully committed, you simply have to right-click on the item
to pop-up the menus / trigger the related action =P
Note that up to now you have to manually setup the working directory by
modifying line 165 in mainwindow.cpp, because
that global variable isn't set yet ( actually the projects directories are
saved in $HOME/.kde4/share/apps/plasmate which is not
a good choice imo, if we want to focus on beginner developers... what about
a $HOME/PlasMate_Projects folder instead? )
Now I'm focusing on building a default enviroment based on the
project/language selected, so I'll fix also that pending issue =)

By the way, I need a DataEngine example written in JavaScript, I searched in
TechBase, kde-look.org and in various svn
modules without result.
As regards runners, I looked for examples in TechBase and in
kdebase/workspace/plasma/runners, kdeplasma-addons/runners,
kdereview/plasma/runners but I only found c++ sources... So probably
scripting support for runners is not ready now, and I hid
the corresponding button.

However, why I still see the previewer with default wallpaper and without
the button showed in Yuen's blog ?
I wanna play with them too =D

Cheers !!


> -- Messaggio inoltrato --
> From: Shantanu Tushar Jha 
> To: Plasma 
> Date: Mon, 27 Jul 2009 01:17:10 +0530
> Subject: Plasmate Status
> So, another 2 weeks, and here comes the Plasmate status report :)
>
> As the CHANGELOG says, we have
>
> 1. Fixed the problem with the project name not taking input.
> (KRestrictedLine issue)
> 2. Plasmate remembers positioning of the docks, and reloads on startup.
> 3. Options to select the scripting language while creating a new project.
> 4. Made some UI changes.
>
> And about the savesystem and Timeline, I believe Deigo is working hard.
> ( Btw, I can't see the Timeline menus and see it in action, just a "Not a
> savepoint" icon. Diego, Am I missing something, or its not commited yet? )
>
> Make it rock !!
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Re: Plasmate Status

2009-07-27 Thread Artur Souza (MoRpHeUz)
On Monday 27 July 2009, 04:31 Diego Casella ([Po]lentino) wrote:
> Note that up to now you have to manually setup the working directory by
> modifying line 165 in mainwindow.cpp, because
> that global variable isn't set yet ( actually the projects directories are
> saved in $HOME/.kde4/share/apps/plasmate which is not
> a good choice imo, if we want to focus on beginner developers... what about
> a $HOME/PlasMate_Projects folder instead? )
> Now I'm focusing on building a default enviroment based on the
> project/language selected, so I'll fix also that pending issue =)

Usually this config paths are given by you, so you don't have to hardcode them 
;)

Check this class and method: KStandardDirs::locateLocal  (it's also used on 
startpage.cpp).

This way, Plasmate will use whatever path is set for kde applications to store 
stuff.

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Re: Plasmate Status

2009-07-27 Thread Diego Casella ([Po]lentino)
2009/7/27 Artur Souza (MoRpHeUz) 

> On Monday 27 July 2009, 04:31 Diego Casella ([Po]lentino) wrote:
> > Note that up to now you have to manually setup the working directory by
> > modifying line 165 in mainwindow.cpp, because
> > that global variable isn't set yet ( actually the projects directories
> are
> > saved in $HOME/.kde4/share/apps/plasmate which is not
> > a good choice imo, if we want to focus on beginner developers... what
> about
> > a $HOME/PlasMate_Projects folder instead? )
> > Now I'm focusing on building a default enviroment based on the
> > project/language selected, so I'll fix also that pending issue =)
>
> Usually this config paths are given by you, so you don't have to hardcode
> them
> ;)
>

Yep I know, I placed that line only for testing purpose XD
I told Shantanu how to modify it, so he can test its usage until I'll commit
the correct versio !

Cheers !!


> Check this class and method: KStandardDirs::locateLocal  (it's also used on
> startpage.cpp).
>
> This way, Plasmate will use whatever path is set for kde applications to
> store
> stuff.
>
> Cheers!
>
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Re: Plasmate Status

2009-07-27 Thread Yuen Hoe Lim
Diego: you need to sudo make install when building plasmate - the
previewer overlay needs to be registered before it shows up :P If you
have already done that then most likely the files aren't being copied
to the correct folder. At least these are the sorts of problem me and
Shantanu encoutered :P

I haven't done much extra because I've been travelling around abit.
I've been playing around with adding titles to the overlay menus
(right now all you see are options). How does one get a Plasma::Label
to be rendered with shadowed text? D:

On 7/27/09, Diego Casella ([Po]lentino)  wrote:
> 2009/7/27 Artur Souza (MoRpHeUz) 
>
>> On Monday 27 July 2009, 04:31 Diego Casella ([Po]lentino) wrote:
>> > Note that up to now you have to manually setup the working directory by
>> > modifying line 165 in mainwindow.cpp, because
>> > that global variable isn't set yet ( actually the projects directories
>> are
>> > saved in $HOME/.kde4/share/apps/plasmate which is not
>> > a good choice imo, if we want to focus on beginner developers... what
>> about
>> > a $HOME/PlasMate_Projects folder instead? )
>> > Now I'm focusing on building a default enviroment based on the
>> > project/language selected, so I'll fix also that pending issue =)
>>
>> Usually this config paths are given by you, so you don't have to hardcode
>> them
>> ;)
>>
>
> Yep I know, I placed that line only for testing purpose XD
> I told Shantanu how to modify it, so he can test its usage until I'll commit
> the correct versio !
>
> Cheers !!
>
>
>> Check this class and method: KStandardDirs::locateLocal  (it's also used
>> on
>> startpage.cpp).
>>
>> This way, Plasmate will use whatever path is set for kde applications to
>> store
>> stuff.
>>
>> Cheers!
>>
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Re: Plasmate Status

2009-07-27 Thread Aaron J. Seigo
On Monday 27 July 2009, Diego Casella ([Po]lentino) wrote:
> Note that up to now you have to manually setup the working directory by
> modifying line 165 in mainwindow.cpp, because
> that global variable isn't set yet 

what's wrong with m_model->package()?

> ( actually the projects directories are
> saved in $HOME/.kde4/share/apps/plasmate which is not
> a good choice imo, if we want to focus on beginner developers... what about
> a $HOME/PlasMate_Projects folder instead? )

the point is that they should never have to worry about where the files are. 
it's an implementation detail. and polluting the home dir with working data 
sets is not great form.

> By the way, I need a DataEngine example written in JavaScript, I searched
> in TechBase, kde-look.org and in various svn
> modules without result.

i added the first support for those 2 weeks ago, so it's not a mystery why you 
didn't find anything on it ;) i (or someone) still needs to do some bindings 
for Service as well so such dataengines can reimplement serviceForSource 
sanely.

> As regards runners, I looked for examples in TechBase and in
> kdebase/workspace/plasma/runners, kdeplasma-addons/runners,
> kdereview/plasma/runners but I only found c++ sources... So probably
> scripting support for runners is not ready now, and I hid
> the corresponding button.

please don't hide buttons because they don't work. that's what you do for 
final release only if you don't manage to get them working in the meantime, 
but hiding them during development is an awesome way to ensure they never get 
implemented. this is the out of sight, out of mind principle.

and yes, it's possible to write runners with ecma script. as soon as it's 
possible to write something useful with plasmate, i'll do up some examples 
using it. ;)

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Re: Re: Plasmate status

2009-07-16 Thread Diego Casella ([Po]lentino)
> -- Messaggio inoltrato --
> From: "Aaron J. Seigo" 
> To: plasma-devel@kde.org
> Date: Wed, 15 Jul 2009 08:04:31 -0600
> Subject: Re: Plasma-devel Digest, Vol 13, Issue 33
> On Wednesday 15 July 2009, Diego Casella ([Po]lentino) wrote:
> > > -- Messaggio inoltrato --
> > > From: "Aaron J. Seigo" 
> > > To: plasma-devel@kde.org
> > > Date: Wed, 15 Jul 2009 00:10:29 -0600
> > > Subject: Re: Plasmate status
> > >
> > > On Monday 13 July 2009, Diego Casella ([Po]lentino) wrote:
> > > > By the way, do we *really* need the sidebar ?
> > >
> > > which sidebar? the one for the timeline?
> >
> > Sorry, I was referring to the "Workflow" sidebar, the one with the "Start
> > Page",
> > "Edit", "Publish" and "Doc" items ..
> > As I previously said, all these commands will be redundant in the final
> > release of plasmate,
> > in my opinion. So we could replace it with something more useful.
>
> hm. well ... "start page" is probably unnecessary, as is "edit" (given the
> list of package entries) but a few items like publish, save point, refresh
> preview, etc would make for nice toolbar entries.
>

That makes sense ... I'll modify it as soon as possible.


> > > > Each item can be found in the
> > > > final release of plasmate
> > > > under the menubar, so I was wondering if we can replace it with
> > > > something more useful like a directory tree list ...
> > >
> > > replace what with a directory tree listing of what? this sentence is
> > > really too vague for me to answer
> >
> > With a directory tree listing the project files, of course =)
>
> isn't that already there? or did someone remove it?
>

I've never seen that dock widget =(


> -- Messaggio inoltrato --
> From: "Aaron J. Seigo" 
> To: plasma-devel@kde.org
> Date: Wed, 15 Jul 2009 08:15:18 -0600
> Subject: Re: Plasmate status
> On Wednesday 15 July 2009, Diego Casella ([Po]lentino) wrote:
> > I've attached some screenshots showing the current interface and the
> > timeline I'm coding;
>
> branches ... it's neat to see that in there, but let's be sure to keep them
> as
> a detail for more advanced usage. people using plasmate should not need to
> understand anything about revision control systems to use it.


Ok, so with which synonym should I use instead of "branch" ?
I was thinking about something like "sector" or "section" ( "create/switch
section"  sounds better IMO ),
however I'm open to your suggestion !

>
>
> > P.S. : /me thinks that could be a good idea starting a personal blog too
> =P
>
> yes :)
>
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Re: Re: Plasmate status

2009-07-16 Thread Yuen Hoe Lim
>> > With a directory tree listing the project files, of course =)
>>
>> isn't that already there? or did someone remove it?
>>
>
> I've never seen that dock widget =(

It's there, though I doubt it's actually doing anything now since
we're not saving anything yet afaik. Plus its there when you start
out, but it gets replaced with the editor kpart when you select
anything.

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