Re: QML splash screen
On Friday, November 4, 2011 09:51:24 Mark wrote: > On Thu, Nov 3, 2011 at 10:12 PM, Marco Martin wrote: > > it has basic support for multi screen: > > * same splash shown in all of them > > * doesn't support hot add/remove (so basically just like the other splash > > screens ;) awesome! :) i honestly think that's all that's really needed. we could, should we find a good reason to, easily add optional "secondary screen QML" layouts, and that would be a nice "junior job" task. just check for the existence of a qml file with a standardized name and load that instead of the main one on secondary screens. if it doesn't exist, load the primary one. voila. > So now we have a QML splash screen that doesn't need to be "rebuild" if one > changes the background? correct. and one that supports all sorts of animation possibilities, and which eventually can be run using openGL (including shaders ) -- Aaron J. Seigo humru othro a kohnu se GPG Fingerprint: 8B8B 2209 0C6F 7C47 B1EA EE75 D6B7 2EB1 A7F1 DB43 KDE core developer sponsored by Qt Development Frameworks signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. ___ Plasma-devel mailing list Plasma-devel@kde.org https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/plasma-devel
Re: QML splash screen
On Thu, Nov 3, 2011 at 10:12 PM, Marco Martin wrote: > On Thursday 03 November 2011, Marco Martin wrote: > > > i'll move around the splash screens later today > > (quite fun that one of the most important things to do now is removing > from > > the default splash screen the reference to rebecca black :p) > > so, it's merged. > > it has basic support for multi screen: > * same splash shown in all of them > * doesn't support hot add/remove (so basically just like the other splash > screens ;) > > since this one (luxury) uses qt, shouldn't be too hard to add support for > hotplugging as well, this is left as exercise for the reader :p > > Cheers, > Marco Martin > > Awesome! Sorry for not catching you on irc last night.. I just didn't had the time -_- So now we have a QML splash screen that doesn't need to be "rebuild" if one changes the background? The "old" splashscreen had to be rebuild or the images had to be recreated.. something along those lines. ___ Plasma-devel mailing list Plasma-devel@kde.org https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/plasma-devel
Re: QML splash screen
On Thursday 03 November 2011, Marco Martin wrote: > i'll move around the splash screens later today > (quite fun that one of the most important things to do now is removing from > the default splash screen the reference to rebecca black :p) so, it's merged. it has basic support for multi screen: * same splash shown in all of them * doesn't support hot add/remove (so basically just like the other splash screens ;) since this one (luxury) uses qt, shouldn't be too hard to add support for hotplugging as well, this is left as exercise for the reader :p Cheers, Marco Martin ___ Plasma-devel mailing list Plasma-devel@kde.org https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/plasma-devel
Re: QML splash screen
> the default splash screen the reference to rebecca black :p) N! :) Thanks for doing this -- Cheerio, Ivan -- While you were hanging yourself on someone else's words Dying to believe in what you heard I was staring straight into the shining sun ___ Plasma-devel mailing list Plasma-devel@kde.org https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/plasma-devel
Re: QML splash screen
On Thursday 03 November 2011, Aaron J. Seigo wrote: > On Thursday, November 3, 2011 12:27:11 Mark wrote: > > Is anyone working on it? > > yes, in fact it is already done and sitting in the ksplash/ksplash-qml .. i > believe the only thing remaining is to make it multi-screen aware, and that > should be trivial: > > on start, if there is more than one screen, create a window for each screen > and show something by default there (perhaps an optional QML file for > "secondary" screens?) > > really, this branch just needs to be merged into master and multi-screen > added to it. i'll move around the splash screens later today (quite fun that one of the most important things to do now is removing from the default splash screen the reference to rebecca black :p) -- Marco Martin ___ Plasma-devel mailing list Plasma-devel@kde.org https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/plasma-devel
Re: QML splash screen
On Thursday, November 3, 2011 12:27:11 Mark wrote: > Is anyone working on it? yes, in fact it is already done and sitting in the ksplash/ksplash-qml .. i believe the only thing remaining is to make it multi-screen aware, and that should be trivial: on start, if there is more than one screen, create a window for each screen and show something by default there (perhaps an optional QML file for "secondary" screens?) really, this branch just needs to be merged into master and multi-screen added to it. -- Aaron J. Seigo humru othro a kohnu se GPG Fingerprint: 8B8B 2209 0C6F 7C47 B1EA EE75 D6B7 2EB1 A7F1 DB43 KDE core developer sponsored by Qt Development Frameworks signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. ___ Plasma-devel mailing list Plasma-devel@kde.org https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/plasma-devel
Re: QML splash screen
On Thu, Nov 3, 2011 at 12:34 PM, Marco Martin wrote: > On Thursday 03 November 2011, Mark wrote: > > On Thu, Nov 3, 2011 at 11:47 AM, Aaron J. Seigo wrote: > > > On Thursday, November 3, 2011 11:29:05 Marco Martin wrote: > > > > another call on that ;) > > > > do we try to make it go in 4.8? > > > > > > yes, it absolutely must go in for 4.8, even if it isn't the default > yet. > > > > > > Is anyone working on it? > > > > If not, i would like to take it. > > > > Along with some nice help of Marco Martin if he's in for it? > > > > Right now i'm working on the plasma tool box rewrite in plasma > (progressing > > bit by bit) but that won't make it for 4.8. > > So i rather work on something that must go in with 4.8 since that seems a > > bit more urgent ;) > > i think main things are: > * include on workspace only one of the two qml splash screns there are in > right now (the black one) > * move the other one to kde-artwork subversion module (yeah, subversion :p) > * make the systemsettings dialog able to recognize qml splash screens > (there > is still a bug on apply hit) > > * multiscreen support: that's more tricky: at the moment i think the splash > screen should be shown on the main screen, with just an empty black > qwidget on > the secondary screens. in the future there should be a qml file for the > main > one and another for the secondary screens, i doubt to see it for 4.8 tough, > let's get the other thing sorted out before ;) > > Cheers, > Marco Martin > > I will catch you on IRC tonight. ^_^ ___ Plasma-devel mailing list Plasma-devel@kde.org https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/plasma-devel
Re: QML splash screen
On Thursday 03 November 2011, Mark wrote: > On Thu, Nov 3, 2011 at 11:47 AM, Aaron J. Seigo wrote: > > On Thursday, November 3, 2011 11:29:05 Marco Martin wrote: > > > another call on that ;) > > > do we try to make it go in 4.8? > > > > yes, it absolutely must go in for 4.8, even if it isn't the default yet. > > > > Is anyone working on it? > > If not, i would like to take it. > > Along with some nice help of Marco Martin if he's in for it? > > Right now i'm working on the plasma tool box rewrite in plasma (progressing > bit by bit) but that won't make it for 4.8. > So i rather work on something that must go in with 4.8 since that seems a > bit more urgent ;) i think main things are: * include on workspace only one of the two qml splash screns there are in right now (the black one) * move the other one to kde-artwork subversion module (yeah, subversion :p) * make the systemsettings dialog able to recognize qml splash screens (there is still a bug on apply hit) * multiscreen support: that's more tricky: at the moment i think the splash screen should be shown on the main screen, with just an empty black qwidget on the secondary screens. in the future there should be a qml file for the main one and another for the secondary screens, i doubt to see it for 4.8 tough, let's get the other thing sorted out before ;) Cheers, Marco Martin ___ Plasma-devel mailing list Plasma-devel@kde.org https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/plasma-devel
Re: QML splash screen
On Thu, Nov 3, 2011 at 11:47 AM, Aaron J. Seigo wrote: > On Thursday, November 3, 2011 11:29:05 Marco Martin wrote: > > another call on that ;) > > do we try to make it go in 4.8? > > yes, it absolutely must go in for 4.8, even if it isn't the default yet. > > Is anyone working on it? If not, i would like to take it. Along with some nice help of Marco Martin if he's in for it? Right now i'm working on the plasma tool box rewrite in plasma (progressing bit by bit) but that won't make it for 4.8. So i rather work on something that must go in with 4.8 since that seems a bit more urgent ;) ___ Plasma-devel mailing list Plasma-devel@kde.org https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/plasma-devel
Re: QML splash screen
On Thursday, November 3, 2011 11:29:05 Marco Martin wrote: > another call on that ;) > do we try to make it go in 4.8? yes, it absolutely must go in for 4.8, even if it isn't the default yet. -- Aaron J. Seigo humru othro a kohnu se GPG Fingerprint: 8B8B 2209 0C6F 7C47 B1EA EE75 D6B7 2EB1 A7F1 DB43 KDE core developer sponsored by Qt Development Frameworks signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. ___ Plasma-devel mailing list Plasma-devel@kde.org https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/plasma-devel
Re: QML splash screen
Hi all, another call on that ;) do we try to make it go in 4.8? otherwise for active we'll have to drag the giant patch with us for at least two more revisions ;) Cheers, Marco Martin ___ Plasma-devel mailing list Plasma-devel@kde.org https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/plasma-devel
Re: Re: QML splash screen
On Wednesday 14 September 2011 11:13:53 Ivan Čukić wrote: > > as for the qml splash, as it won't be used by default on anything but plasma > > active, and since "not multiscreen" means it will either be stretched over > > all > > IIRC, you and a couple of other ppl wanted to make it default even for > normal KDE Workspace. > > But, yeah, as long as it is only Active, we don't need multiscreen. > > Can someone (Aaron, Marco and Martin*) review the branch so that we > might merge it? I just had a look at the kwin changes (only saw commit 9fb60932). I don't like that it checks for qt-subapplication, but I fear there is no other easy solution. The proper solution would be to implement the mentioned todo in the login effect which is there since before 4.0, so let's keep the hack ;-) So fine with me. Cheers Martin > > -- > Cheerio, > Ivan > > > * Martin - because of kwin patches, Aaron and Marco because of the rest :) > > -- > While you were hanging yourself on someone else's words > Dying to believe in what you heard > I was staring straight into the shining sun > ___ > Active mailing list > act...@kde.org > https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/active signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. ___ Plasma-devel mailing list Plasma-devel@kde.org https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/plasma-devel
Re: QML splash screen
On Wednesday 14 September 2011, Marco Martin wrote: > On Wednesday 14 September 2011, Ivan Čukić wrote: > > > as for the qml splash, as it won't be used by default on anything but > > > plasma active, and since "not multiscreen" means it will either be > > > stretched over all > > > > IIRC, you and a couple of other ppl wanted to make it default even for > > normal KDE Workspace. > > > > But, yeah, as long as it is only Active, we don't need multiscreen. > > > > Can someone (Aaron, Marco and Martin*) review the branch so that we > > might merge it? > > i 've already taken a look at the code, only thing i would change, is as > already said, is state -> stage, i can do it today done that, now to merge the last things to do would be putting the unbranded stripes wallpaper in the qmltest splash and remove the label on the qml- default one (unless we really want to name next kde release "Friday" ehehe:p) Cheers, Marco Martin ___ Plasma-devel mailing list Plasma-devel@kde.org https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/plasma-devel
Re: QML splash screen
On Wednesday 14 September 2011, Aaron J. Seigo wrote: > > also, where i put the qml splash screen for active? it's a bit heavy on > > graphics, so would make the plasma-mobile repo grow a bit too much > > forever, maybe have a svn repo only for active artwork? (it would also > > contain the default list of wallpapers) > > for now an svn repo sounds sane for this, yes ... (seems binary file > handing is something git devs are looking into, though, so perhaps we > won't have this problem forever :) ok, good to know ;) i'm now importing it into activeartwork under the old plasma playground svn Cheers, Marco Martin ___ Plasma-devel mailing list Plasma-devel@kde.org https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/plasma-devel
Re: QML splash screen
On Wednesday, September 14, 2011 11:17:24 Marco Martin wrote: > On Wednesday 14 September 2011, Aaron J. Seigo wrote: > > as for the qml splash, as it won't be used by default on anything but > > plasma active, and since "not multiscreen" means it will either be > > stretched over all screens or just leave other screens blank .. it's not a > > show stopper either, especially as 4.8 is quite a ways away for the next > > desktop and netbook releases. > > so... merge? ;) +1 > also, where i put the qml splash screen for active? it's a bit heavy on > graphics, so would make the plasma-mobile repo grow a bit too much forever, > maybe have a svn repo only for active artwork? (it would also contain the > default list of wallpapers) for now an svn repo sounds sane for this, yes ... (seems binary file handing is something git devs are looking into, though, so perhaps we won't have this problem forever :) -- Aaron J. Seigo humru othro a kohnu se GPG Fingerprint: 8B8B 2209 0C6F 7C47 B1EA EE75 D6B7 2EB1 A7F1 DB43 KDE core developer sponsored by Qt Development Frameworks signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. ___ Plasma-devel mailing list Plasma-devel@kde.org https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/plasma-devel
Re: QML splash screen
On Wednesday 14 September 2011, Aaron J. Seigo wrote: > > as for the qml splash, as it won't be used by default on anything but > plasma active, and since "not multiscreen" means it will either be > stretched over all screens or just leave other screens blank .. it's not a > show stopper either, especially as 4.8 is quite a ways away for the next > desktop and netbook releases. so... merge? ;) also, where i put the qml splash screen for active? it's a bit heavy on graphics, so would make the plasma-mobile repo grow a bit too much forever, maybe have a svn repo only for active artwork? (it would also contain the default list of wallpapers) Cheers, Marco Martin ___ Plasma-devel mailing list Plasma-devel@kde.org https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/plasma-devel
Re: QML splash screen
On Wednesday 14 September 2011, Ivan Čukić wrote: > > as for the qml splash, as it won't be used by default on anything but > > plasma active, and since "not multiscreen" means it will either be > > stretched over all > > IIRC, you and a couple of other ppl wanted to make it default even for > normal KDE Workspace. > > But, yeah, as long as it is only Active, we don't need multiscreen. > > Can someone (Aaron, Marco and Martin*) review the branch so that we > might merge it? i 've already taken a look at the code, only thing i would change, is as already said, is state -> stage, i can do it today -- Marco Martin ___ Plasma-devel mailing list Plasma-devel@kde.org https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/plasma-devel
Re: QML splash screen
> as for the qml splash, as it won't be used by default on anything but plasma > active, and since "not multiscreen" means it will either be stretched over all IIRC, you and a couple of other ppl wanted to make it default even for normal KDE Workspace. But, yeah, as long as it is only Active, we don't need multiscreen. Can someone (Aaron, Marco and Martin*) review the branch so that we might merge it? -- Cheerio, Ivan * Martin - because of kwin patches, Aaron and Marco because of the rest :) -- While you were hanging yourself on someone else's words Dying to believe in what you heard I was staring straight into the shining sun ___ Plasma-devel mailing list Plasma-devel@kde.org https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/plasma-devel
Re: QML splash screen
On Tuesday, September 13, 2011 16:06:57 Jeffery MacEachern wrote: > >> Multiscreen support can be left out for PA1 anyway. > > > > If by Multiscreen do you mean X screens, oki I don't care :p > > but, if by multiscreen do you mean xradnr // xinerama then I do care :p > > > > I don't know what PA1 means, but please if by multiscreen do you mean > > xrandr/xinerama please fix it before merge anything. > > I'm assuming "PA1" == "Plasma Active One"? yes ... and anything with more than one screen is currently irrelevant for plasma active. in future, we will need to have things for screen changes for various ideas we have cooking, but the first release is all about devices with fixed screens. as for the qml splash, as it won't be used by default on anything but plasma active, and since "not multiscreen" means it will either be stretched over all screens or just leave other screens blank .. it's not a show stopper either, especially as 4.8 is quite a ways away for the next desktop and netbook releases. -- Aaron J. Seigo humru othro a kohnu se GPG Fingerprint: 8B8B 2209 0C6F 7C47 B1EA EE75 D6B7 2EB1 A7F1 DB43 KDE core developer sponsored by Qt Development Frameworks signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. ___ Plasma-devel mailing list Plasma-devel@kde.org https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/plasma-devel
Re: Re: QML splash screen
On Wednesday 14 September 2011 00:02:02 Marco Martin wrote: > On Tuesday 13 September 2011, Alex Fiestas wrote: > > On 09/12/2011 11:01 AM, Sebastian Kügler wrote: > > > On Saturday, September 10, 2011 20:38:43 Ivan Čukić wrote: > > >>> Ivan, what are for you the roadblocks that avoid merging it? > > >> > > >> multiscreen support, which should be trivial, but I haven't had the > > >> time to do it yet. (the stuff I'm currently doing is more important > > >> imo) > > > > > > Multiscreen support can be left out for PA1 anyway. > > > > If by Multiscreen do you mean X screens, oki I don't care :p > > but, if by multiscreen do you mean xradnr // xinerama then I do care :p > > > > I don't know what PA1 means, but please if by multiscreen do you mean > > xrandr/xinerama please fix it before merge anything. > > anyways i can give a spin.. > how does traditional ksplash behaves? it replicates the same thing on both > screen or does something different like just the background? It behaes just badly. On my system KDM is mirrored (badly), the animation starts mirrorred with a transition to only on the primary screen as soon as xrandr kicks in to setup the screen. Depending on how the splash is done I think mirroring is the better approach. Cheers Martin signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. ___ Plasma-devel mailing list Plasma-devel@kde.org https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/plasma-devel
Re: QML splash screen
On Tue, Sep 13, 2011 at 14:42, Alex Fiestas wrote: > On 09/12/2011 11:01 AM, Sebastian Kügler wrote: >> >> On Saturday, September 10, 2011 20:38:43 Ivan Čukić wrote: Ivan, what are for you the roadblocks that avoid merging it? >>> >>> multiscreen support, which should be trivial, but I haven't had the >>> time to do it yet. (the stuff I'm currently doing is more important >>> imo) >> >> Multiscreen support can be left out for PA1 anyway. > > If by Multiscreen do you mean X screens, oki I don't care :p > but, if by multiscreen do you mean xradnr // xinerama then I do care :p > > I don't know what PA1 means, but please if by multiscreen do you mean > xrandr/xinerama please fix it before merge anything. I'm assuming "PA1" == "Plasma Active One"? - Jeffery MacEachern > ___ > Plasma-devel mailing list > Plasma-devel@kde.org > https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/plasma-devel > ___ Plasma-devel mailing list Plasma-devel@kde.org https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/plasma-devel
Re: QML splash screen
On Tuesday 13 September 2011, Alex Fiestas wrote: > On 09/12/2011 11:01 AM, Sebastian Kügler wrote: > > On Saturday, September 10, 2011 20:38:43 Ivan Čukić wrote: > >>> Ivan, what are for you the roadblocks that avoid merging it? > >> > >> multiscreen support, which should be trivial, but I haven't had the > >> time to do it yet. (the stuff I'm currently doing is more important > >> imo) > > > > Multiscreen support can be left out for PA1 anyway. > > If by Multiscreen do you mean X screens, oki I don't care :p > but, if by multiscreen do you mean xradnr // xinerama then I do care :p > > I don't know what PA1 means, but please if by multiscreen do you mean > xrandr/xinerama please fix it before merge anything. anyways i can give a spin.. how does traditional ksplash behaves? it replicates the same thing on both screen or does something different like just the background? Cheers, Marco Martin ___ Plasma-devel mailing list Plasma-devel@kde.org https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/plasma-devel
Re: QML splash screen
On 09/12/2011 11:01 AM, Sebastian Kügler wrote: On Saturday, September 10, 2011 20:38:43 Ivan Čukić wrote: Ivan, what are for you the roadblocks that avoid merging it? multiscreen support, which should be trivial, but I haven't had the time to do it yet. (the stuff I'm currently doing is more important imo) Multiscreen support can be left out for PA1 anyway. If by Multiscreen do you mean X screens, oki I don't care :p but, if by multiscreen do you mean xradnr // xinerama then I do care :p I don't know what PA1 means, but please if by multiscreen do you mean xrandr/xinerama please fix it before merge anything. ___ Plasma-devel mailing list Plasma-devel@kde.org https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/plasma-devel
Re: QML splash screen
On Saturday, September 10, 2011 20:38:43 Ivan Čukić wrote: > > Ivan, what are for you the roadblocks that avoid merging it? > > multiscreen support, which should be trivial, but I haven't had the > time to do it yet. (the stuff I'm currently doing is more important > imo) Multiscreen support can be left out for PA1 anyway. -- sebas http://www.kde.org | http://vizZzion.org | GPG Key ID: 9119 0EF9 ___ Plasma-devel mailing list Plasma-devel@kde.org https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/plasma-devel
Re: QML splash screen
> Ivan, what are for you the roadblocks that avoid merging it? multiscreen support, which should be trivial, but I haven't had the time to do it yet. (the stuff I'm currently doing is more important imo) > to me, the biggest gripe is that the state of the splash steps is defined by a > "state" property that is an int: this conflicts as name and overlaps with the stage, step, splashstate, splashstage, splashstep... whatever you want :) (or if we want to go along with plasma -> tokamak -> it can be /cycle/) -- Cheerio, Ivan -- While you were hanging yourself on someone else's words Dying to believe in what you heard I was staring straight into the shining sun ___ Plasma-devel mailing list Plasma-devel@kde.org https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/plasma-devel
