bugs on Plucker Desktop for Windows

2002-09-17 Thread Pablo Rodriguez

>> The output pdb file is not compressed with zlib, although this 
>> option is selected.
>
>The entire PDB will not be compressed; rather, its component records will be. The 
>viewer decompresses it on a record-
by-
record basis.

Thanks, Chris, but I'm not sure whether I understand you. I have generated a pdb file 
which twice as big as the pdb file 
generated with the previous (1.13) command-line version. It seems to be a bug and I 
wonder whether it would have 
something to do with the fact that the version 1.13 had used Python 2.2 and the 
Desktop version has a built-in 1.5 Python 
version. (It may be nonsense, I don't know.)

By the way, it would be better to offer the binaries for all platforms also without 
the built-in Python version.

The same happens with the other features of the Windows desktop version: url info is 
included when not requested, there 
is no owner id although requested. And the Windows Plucker Desktop is specially 
unstable, I mean, I have must force the 
restart when using it allmost all the times (about 10 and I use W98SE).

I hope it helps,


Pablo








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Re: branches in i18n branch

2002-09-17 Thread Masakazu Matsumoto

On 2002.9.14, at 02:06  AM, Michael Nordström wrote:

>
>> i18n-bookmark,
>
> Bookmarks shouldn't be more than 20 chars (for practical reasons,
> since you can't view longer names in the popup dialog), so you
> might want to decrease the 100 chars you include.

Bookmark is limited to 30 letters (according to the width of 
Bookmarkform dialog).
Fixed.

>
>> i18n-hardcopy,
>
> Several crashes and unhandled exceptions (515) on my Palm V
> (running OS3.3). Seems like any page with a visible link will
> fail. Other pages will sometimes be copied, but most of the
> time nothing will happen.

Sorry it is not i18n-hardcopy, but i18n-hardcopy2.
i18n-hardcopy2 worked much better.
Anyway those sub-branches are merged to i18n and modified there.
Please see i18n instead.

matto
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Re: Possible fix for url-pattern patch attached

2002-09-17 Thread Bill Janssen

Thanks, Robert.  That looks reasonable.  I'll add it in.

Bill
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RE: Scaled-down images

2002-09-17 Thread Gary Paulson

I have had the same problem.  Seems the newest version of the image parser
is not handling alt_* dimensions.

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I installed the windows install of Plucker Desktop beta.
(dated 9/10).

I have one problem: When using plucker-build to convert a local
html file, the alt_maxwidth and alt_maxheight for images seems to be
ignored;
large images are scaled but not linked to full-size versions, even when
sufficiently
large alt size is specified.  Before I report a bug I want to make sure I am
not doing
anything wrong. Thanks,

--

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Possible fix for url-pattern patch attached

2002-09-17 Thread Robert O'Connor

URL pattern seemed to have temporary stopped working for a while. The bug is here:
http://www.gnu-designs.com/bugs/view_bug_page.php?f_id=285

Attached is a patch to allow url_pattern to correctly filter, when specified as a 
commandline 
key.

Bill, did you want to check this over, and see if this is the right solution, and 
patch the CVS 
branches if you agree with it? 

The patch doesn't have many lines. There is only an addition of a few lines which 
allow 
url_pattern to be collected and put as an attribute of a SpiderLink tag.

The addition of these lines makes url_pattern in the config file work for me (using 
wired as an 
example test).

Best wishes,
Robert
 




cvs diff -u2 Spider.py 
Index: Spider.py
===
RCS file: /cvs/plucker/plucker_src/parser/python/PyPlucker/Spider.py,v
retrieving revision 1.70
diff -u -2 -r1.70 Spider.py
--- Spider.py   9 Jul 2002 15:45:03 -   1.70
+++ Spider.py   17 Sep 2002 22:58:56 -
@@ -99,4 +99,5 @@
 "stay_on_host",
 "staybelow",
+"url_pattern",
 "current_depth",
 "noimages",
@@ -177,4 +178,5 @@
 self._maxheight = None
 self._bpp = 1
+self._url_pattern = None
 old = dict.copy()
 for key in old.keys():
@@ -200,4 +202,5 @@
 if self._stay_below:
 res = res + (" STAYBELOW=\"%s\"" % self._stay_below)
+res = res + " URL_PATTERN='%s'" % self._url_pattern
 res = res + " URL='%s'" % self._url
 res = res + " " + repr (self._dict)


Re: Plucker Desktop hits PDABuzz.com

2002-09-17 Thread Adam McDaniel

On Tue, Sep 17, 2002 at 10:04:52PM +0100, Robert O'Connor wrote:
> I have a feeling that the year 2003 is going to see the Plucker
> viewer on a majority of Palm handhelds.

Be careful of what you wish for :)

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Re: Request advice from Bill Janssen: Python distiller keys: owner_id_build and no_urlinfo

2002-09-17 Thread Bill Janssen

>   Agreed, let's work on flattening the options and agreeing on what
> means what (--title vs. -N vs. doc_name et al) and start there. We can build
> on that, once we all agree on our options and how we'll reference them.

I think the man page is straight on all the command-line options.  I
should just add the config file option names to it.

Frankly, I never figured anyone would ever put owner_id_build in a
configuration file, but would only use it from the command-line.  I
forgot just how paranoid a lot of folks out there are.

Bill

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Re: Plucker Desktop hits PDABuzz.com

2002-09-17 Thread Robert O'Connor

On 17 Sep 2002 at 15:55, David A. Desrosiers wrote:

> 
>   If anyone hasn't noticed yet, we're on the front page of pdabuzz.com
> for Plucker Desktop. Expect the usual onslaught of newbies and rants to hit
> the lists. The sites are getting absolutely pounded.. I only wish I had the
> new site up, oh well.. soon.

Great that they can help pass the word around of Plucker. Perhaps some page later on 
down the 
road after the new site has the finishing touches, can set aside room for 2 pages for:
-Clips of various Plucker reviews with links back to the site that helped pass the 
word around 
of our non-profit project.
-A media kit page, that gives a journalist-friendly blurb bullets of what plucker is, 
it does, 
history etc, and some premade higher resolution screenshots (600dpi? I forget what 
resolution/image format is preferred) for use in a print magazine?
A possible clips page type of thing:
http://www.medicalmnemonics.com/cgi-bin/review.cfm
A possible print-friendly screenshots type of thing:
http://www.medicalmnemonics.com/cgi-bin/media.cfm

I have a feeling that the year 2003 is going to see the Plucker viewer on a majority 
of Palm 
handhelds.

Best wishes,
Robert
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Re: Request advice from Bill Janssen: Python distiller keys:owner_id_build and no_urlinfo

2002-09-17 Thread David A. Desrosiers

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> I'd like to go easy on fancying things up, as I have to replicate the
> parsing functionality in libunpluck.

Agreed, let's work on flattening the options and agreeing on what
means what (--title vs. -N vs. doc_name et al) and start there. We can build
on that, once we all agree on our options and how we'll reference them.


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Re: Request advice from Bill Janssen: Python distiller keys: owner_id_build and no_urlinfo

2002-09-17 Thread Bill Janssen

>   I'm not sure from these examples if it can handle non-ini-style
> files, like those used by apache or ones with delimited blocks, but I'm sure
> it's not impossible to roll one out of it.

I'd like to go easy on fancying things up, as I have to replicate the
parsing functionality in libunpluck.

Bill

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Some Plucker Desktop issues (Was Re: What is the feedback address for Plucker Desktop?)

2002-09-17 Thread Robert O'Connor

> 1.  Plucker desktop breaks the effect of
> 
>   max_tbmp_size= 6
>   try_reduce_bpp   = false
> 
> Background: I have a 16-bit color Palm (M-515) and I like full color 
> images, even if it means the size is reduced.
> 
> Plucker 1.1.13 does this fine (with verbosity=2, you even get a nice 
> list of "trying 90%...", "trying 80%..." type messages, until at some 
> point the bmp size is < 60k).
> 
> But the moment you install Plucker Desktop, this breaks.

Hi Sitaram, thanks for your letter.

The distiller has changed and been improved a lot since 1.1.13 which is now more than 
a year 
old. plucker-build commandline is still available, and you can test the distiller 
script 
directly to help pinpoint your problem.
 
> 2.  It seems to hang sometimes, for reasons I have not had time to 
> figure out.  (Sorry to sound like a typical newbie - "it doesn't work" 
> :-)  If I find time to investigate this further and determine some 
> actual reason I will email you.  Meanwhile, treat this as just FYI :-)

Can't help much on that one until there is some steps to reproduce. Sorry ;-)

> Worse, if I run a set of updates all 
> together, and say the last of them hangs and I have to kill it, then 
> *none* of the databases make it to the Palm "Install" directory.

That is a design decision and is unlikely to change. On Linux, to install files to the 
handheld, you push the hotsync button to move the files. If there was an install after 
each 
channel update, then the Linux user would have to sit there by the machine, pressing 
the 
hotsync button each time. When the lot is installed at the end, there only needs to be 
one 
button press. Introducing an #ifdefcode fork for installing each one sequentially on 
MSW makes 
proper maintenance more difficult.

If you like DOS consoles, you can use them: Preferences dialog > Spidering tab > Show 
progress 
with [console window].

> 4.  If the internal scheduler granularity is set lesser than the time 
> taken to download one database (say I have a very large one which takes 
> more than 10 minutes, the default granularity), then Plucker Desktop 
> starts up another session!  Even more interesting, when they both 
> complete, I still have no PDB file in C:\Palm\MYName\Install!

Thanks. I'll take a look. This shouldn't happen--a flag gets turned on and off to tell 
whether 
it is okay to start a new autoupdate. There may have been a miss of the flag setting 
at some 
point.

> Otherwise it looks great.  I love many of the features, but these 
> problems (especially #1 at the top) prevent me from using it.  (Don't 
> tell me that's because of the change from Bmp2Tbmp to netpbm2, and that 
> therefore even "plain old plucker" will no longer do this come 1.2 ! :-)

The MSW doesn't use netpbm2, it uses Bmp2Tbmp. Dirk has written some all-in-one PIL 
parsers, 
but IIRC correctly there weren't quite as mature as PIL+Bmp2Tbmp.

Best wishes,
Robert
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Re: beaming docs with url titles bug in plucker 1.2 beta 12

2002-09-17 Thread Michael Nordström

On Thu, Sep 12, 2002, Patryk Laurent wrote:
> you sync a document to a Plucker installation allowing it to retain it's 
> default http:// url title and attempt to beam it to another Palm (which has 
> Plucker 1.2 beta 12 installed) the receiving Palm errors: 

Try to beam it to a device that doesn't have Plucker installed and
you will get the exact same error. When the current beam support 
was added I wanted to keep it simple and decided to just send the
data to the PalmOS launcher app (Applications). However, when you
use a filename like http://foobar.com the file that is sent to 
Applications is called http://foobar.com.pdb and apparently it
doesn't like that format. Actually, it is not the "http://"; that
is the problem, but the '.'. Rename a document to anything with a
'.' in it and then try to beam it; it will fail with the unknwon
format error.

A document called "http://foobar"; will work, though. Still, it is
probably a good idea to avoid names with ':' in them, since (in 
PalmOS4 and later) they will be treated as a URL that identifies
the exchange library to connect with ;-)

I have a local version that will handle beamed Plucker documents
internally, but I will not include that in the 1.2 release. It will
accept documents with an extra '.' in the name, though. Currently,
it will just ignore a received document if a document with identical
name already exists, but I intend to add an option for the user to
either rename the current document, choose to delete it or reject
the received document. I would also like to add support for receiving
the documents directly to an external card.

/Mike

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Re: Plucker Desktop - Suggestions

2002-09-17 Thread MJ Ray

Ken Findlay <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 1. Include the RTF2HTML program with the distribution (it's freeware) and

It's an executable for Windows only and its licence is not free enough to
allow it to be ported.  Maybe a better idea would be to either provide hooks
for it, and maybe other similar tools like antiword or plucker-oebps.

> 2. Provide an option for the user to specify the automatic generation of
> bookmarks form HTML or RTF headings. [...]

Or a jump list based on id or name attributes in the xhtml.  Not sure which
is better.

MJR

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RE: STAYBELOW

2002-09-17 Thread Nicolas Huillard



> -Message d'origine-
> De:   Rob OConnor [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Date: jeudi 12 septembre 2002 15:15
> À:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Objet:Re: STAYBELOW
>
>
> Is staybelow still in the Plucker Desktop docs
> somewhere? If so, it should be expunged.

Yes. Simply searching for "staybelow" in the help application gives 8 
results (as simple text in a sentence, as the config options, in the index, 
etc.)
Do you want me to update the help files ? (I can do that if I can be sure 
not to break their format... and if I can find the sources in CVS -- 
currently not...)
I just saw you removed the term from the app strings (.po file).

NH
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RE: windows installer?

2002-09-17 Thread Nicolas Huillard

Try the Plucker Desktop on http://desktop.plkr.org (latest beta dated 
2002-09-10) : it included the wonderful Plucker Desktop and two marvelous 
beta viewers for your Palm.

NH

> -Message d'origine-
> De:   Peter & Melodye Bowers [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Date: samedi 14 septembre 2002 15:22
> À:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Cc:   [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Sent_From_Home
> Objet:windows installer?
>
> I don't know if you are the person to whom I should be writing, but I 
can't
> find other contact information and I'm a bit lost about how to find this 
on
> your web site...
>
> I have recently gotten interested in Plucker and so downloaded the most
> recent version (1.2beta12).  I have downloaded hundreds of palm programs 
and
> so expected a simple readme or index.html explaining the process of
> installing the software.  Instead I find a comment (somewhat buried in 
the
> documentation) that I need to download the windows installer from the
> plucker site (no site given) and it will do everything for me.  GREAT! 
 Life
> is that much easier...  The problem is that I can't find it ANYWHERE!
>
> Can you or someone else point me to where I find the windows installer 
for
> plucker?
>
> Thanks!
>
> -Peter
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RE: Plucker 1.1 Release Article

2002-09-17 Thread Nicolas Huillard

Try the Plucker Desktop on http://desktop.plkr.org (latest beta dated 
2002-09-10) : it included the wonderful Plucker Desktop and two marvelous 
beta viewers for your Palm.

NH

> -Message d'origine-
> De:   ben [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Date: lundi 16 septembre 2002 23:38
> À:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Objet:Plucker 1.1 Release Article
>
> I'd love to try the new beta but i only have access to a windows 
computer.
> is there any way that i can compile the source on a windows box or has 
some
> one made a win binary yet?
> ben~
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Nested keys (Was Re: Request advice from Bill Janssen: Python distiller keys: owner_id_build and no_urlinfo )

2002-09-17 Thread Robert O'Connor

On 16 Sep 2002 at 23:16, David A. Desrosiers wrote:

> I'm not sure how hard it would be for the python tools and the
> other bits to parse nested blocks, or options nested within opening and
> closing tags, but that's one approach also. Something like:
>
> 
>update_enabled = 0
>update_frequency   = 1
>update_period  = daily
>update_base= 2002-09-08T12:57:15
>close_on_exit  = 0
>close_on_error = 0
> 

I certainly agree on using a single .ini/rc, as otherwise it gets too crazy to try to 
manage 
options.

For sections, there is a [PLUCKER_DESKTOP] section that sets switches for the program 
that are 
only relevant to it (position of a last window save, etc).

Keys used inside a channel section are there for other tools to use also. update_base 
is pretty 
generic, if there was another tool, plucker-foo, to manage update times, they are 
going to need 
the same set of keys and it would be somewhat confusing to have the plucker-foo keys 
want to 
read/write  keys. It makes the keys a bit more seemless if the 
reusable ones 
are available to be global, and it is tough to know in advance what will be needed in 
the 
future. For example, "user" key was created by Dirk for RunSync.exe to install; when 
it was 
time to pick a key for installing graphically, can just reuse the existing key in a 
new way.

For run-ins of keys, I think good documentation of the config file is good enough. 
Someone 
making a new tool can look at what keys already exist, and use the ones that address 
the 
current problem (as time goes on, more and more problems will already have been 
solved, so can 
just reuse the existing keys). If there isn't a key to fit, drop an RFC on plucker-dev 
about 
it, pick a key name and use it, (which has been done in the past quite well).

I do like the arrangement of keys to group them into sets for readability, but we do 
that in 
the commented .ini/.rc file anyways with just some comment spaces between the groups 
of things.

A full-on XML file config wouldn't be too bad for a later date, as we discussed some 
months 
back. There are 2 keys that would be useful to have attributes to describe a channel, 
the user 
installations and integrated exclusion list.

  
  


and 


http://.*x10.*"; action="exclude" priority="1" />
...and so on.


That isn't a feasibily a Plucker 1.2 possibility though.

The only problem in that it is somewhat difficult to then keep things on the 
command-line the 
same as the config file. Using separate keys keeps it easier to type into the command 
line:
--exclusion1=http://.*x10.*;-;1 --exclusion2=http://.*;+;0

Commandline arguments are a good way to keep available for other future tools to use. 
For 
example, can run a browser plugin for adding a channel to manage, by just calling a 
commandline 
on it and terminating, instead of juggling file drops, IPC, etc.



Best wishes,
Robert

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Plucker 1.1 Release Article

2002-09-17 Thread ben

I'd love to try the new beta but i only have access to a windows computer. 
is there any way that i can compile the source on a windows box or has some 
one made a win binary yet?
ben~

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RE: Soliciting input for Plucker options/arguments

2002-09-17 Thread Gregg Woodcock
Title: RE: Soliciting input for Plucker options/arguments





I just started using VFS and it creates this bit of a problem.  Under normal circumstances when a desktop-side PDB is created, it uses the "doc_file" value for the filename and when the install conduit transfers the file to the PDA, the filename is changed to the "doc_name" value.  However, If I want to bypass the install conduit and have my PDB created directly on my VFS media (compact flash module), I'd like a parameter to allow the file to be created with the "doc_name" value for the filename.  I understand this may cause some issues because some desktop OS may have problems with blank spaces which are allowed for PDA VFS filenames but that's the only issue I see...




RE: Plucker 1.1 Release Article

2002-09-17 Thread Scott McCullor
Title: RE: Plucker 1.1 Release Article





Another issue or 2.  When I choose a bmp for the launch icon, the pdb is not generated.  I can't get you the error message if necessary.

It also appears that I have to have my mouse over the results window when updating for the operation to work.  Or maybe it's just not showing the results but is still updating.

Thanks again,
Scott M.


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From:   Scott McCullor  
Sent:   Monday, September 16, 2002 10:04 AM
To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
Subject:    Plucker 1.1 Release Article


Love Desktop so far.  Much easier to use and should make a huge dent in the Avantgo market.


I have this problem, though.  I'm plucking html pages that I authored and there are plenty of images (gif files) which are accessed via hyperlinks.  Every one of them has been reduced in size even though I selected always link thumbnail to second full size image.  This would be ok but the hyper link isn't there and I can't open the full sized image.

I've tried leaving them as hyper links and also embedding the full sized image in the document but neither seems to give me the full image.

When I use version 1.1.13 my images were full size and I could scroll them.  It will be ok for what I'm doing but the increased color support and color hyperlinks and text would make these documents a lot better.

If you'd like my .pdbs for examination, I'll be glad to get them to you ASAP.


Thanks for the products and the help,
Scott McCullor
TAC Americas Tech Support





Plucker 1.1 Release Article

2002-09-17 Thread Scott McCullor
Title: Plucker 1.1 Release Article





Love Desktop so far.  Much easier to use and should make a huge dent in the Avantgo market.


I have this problem, though.  I'm plucking html pages that I authored and there are plenty of images (gif files) which are accessed via hyperlinks.  Every one of them has been reduced in size even though I selected always link thumbnail to second full size image.  This would be ok but the hyper link isn't there and I can't open the full sized image.

I've tried leaving them as hyper links and also embedding the full sized image in the document but neither seems to give me the full image.

When I use version 1.1.13 my images were full size and I could scroll them.  It will be ok for what I'm doing but the increased color support and color hyperlinks and text would make these documents a lot better.

If you'd like my .pdbs for examination, I'll be glad to get them to you ASAP.


Thanks for the products and the help,
Scott McCullor
TAC Americas Tech Support





Re: Soliciting input for Plucker options/arguments

2002-09-17 Thread Guylhem Aznar

On Sat, Sep 14, 2002 at 08:32:36PM -0400, David A. Desrosiers wrote:
>   I'm not exactly sure what you mean.. could you give me an example?

I personally grep/sed/awk some pictures out of html files.
This gives me URL like
http://images.ucomics.com/comics/ch/1991/ch910914.gif for calvin&hobbes

Using the standard maxwidth setting, it just make the picture as big as
the screen. I would like this picture (and only this one) to keep its
original size, else hires makes it too small to be read.

>   You would mail this off to the Plucker server, to a special account,
> and it will fetch and convert the site you specify for you, based on these
> parameters. Within a few seconds to minutes, depending on the size of the
> content fetched, you will receive a .pdb in your email with the content
> you've requested.

Quite interesting.

>   If I understand you correctly, you are asking for a per-link
> maxdepth customization, which wouldn't be possible with this process, since

Not exactly- a per-link size setting. A per-link colordepth setting
could also be useful : I want my comics in b&w but maps from weather.com
or similar should be in full color.

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Re: Soliciting input for Plucker options/arguments

2002-09-17 Thread Guylhem Aznar

On Sat, Sep 14, 2002 at 02:53:50PM -0400, David A. Desrosiers wrote:
>   Please look over the list below, and tell me if I've missed any
> options or arguments that the current Plucker viewer, Desktop, Parser, and
> tools support.

..

> maxheight  =  # maximum height of images in document
> maxwidth   =  # maximum width of images in document
> alt_maxheight  =  # must be > maxheight
> alt_maxwidth   =  # ditto, must be > maxwidth

What about a link specific option?


It could be useful for comics or other specific pictures like satellite
maps.

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windows installer?

2002-09-17 Thread Peter & Melodye Bowers

I don't know if you are the person to whom I should be writing, but I can't
find other contact information and I'm a bit lost about how to find this on
your web site...

I have recently gotten interested in Plucker and so downloaded the most
recent version (1.2beta12).  I have downloaded hundreds of palm programs and
so expected a simple readme or index.html explaining the process of
installing the software.  Instead I find a comment (somewhat buried in the
documentation) that I need to download the windows installer from the
plucker site (no site given) and it will do everything for me.  GREAT!  Life
is that much easier...  The problem is that I can't find it ANYWHERE!

Can you or someone else point me to where I find the windows installer for
plucker?

Thanks!

-Peter

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Scaled-down images

2002-09-17 Thread Erb

I installed the windows install of Plucker Desktop beta.
(dated 9/10).

I have one problem: When using plucker-build to convert a local
html file, the alt_maxwidth and alt_maxheight for images seems to be ignored;
large images are scaled but not linked to full-size versions, even when sufficiently
large alt size is specified.  Before I report a bug I want to make sure I am not doing
anything wrong. Thanks,

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What is the feedback address for Plucker Desktop?

2002-09-17 Thread Sitaram Chamarty

Hi all,

Maybe I missed it, but I couldn't find the feedback address for Plucker 
Desktop in all of http://desktop.plkr.org/.

I have a few comments that I would like to pass on.  Could someone 
please give me the address?  Thanks...

--

Now, just in case the address is the same as for the main Plucker tool, 
here goes:

1.  Plucker desktop breaks the effect of

max_tbmp_size= 6
try_reduce_bpp   = false

Background: I have a 16-bit color Palm (M-515) and I like full color 
images, even if it means the size is reduced.

Plucker 1.1.13 does this fine (with verbosity=2, you even get a nice 
list of "trying 90%...", "trying 80%..." type messages, until at some 
point the bmp size is < 60k).

But the moment you install Plucker Desktop, this breaks.

2.  It seems to hang sometimes, for reasons I have not had time to 
figure out.  (Sorry to sound like a typical newbie - "it doesn't work" 
:-)  If I find time to investigate this further and determine some 
actual reason I will email you.  Meanwhile, treat this as just FYI :-)

Plucker (plain) has *never* hung on me yet :-)

3.  The plain (textfile-based) plucker allows me to hotsync more than 
one database at a time.  I know this is not a bug, and I know enough to 
realise this may even be a fundamental design issue with having a GUI, 
but it was one of the factors.  Worse, if I run a set of updates all 
together, and say the last of them hangs and I have to kill it, then 
*none* of the databases make it to the Palm "Install" directory.

In other words, I have to run them sequentially to avoid this.  Run one, 
wait for it to complete (or hang - kill), then the next, etc.

(But see next issue :-)

4.  If the internal scheduler granularity is set lesser than the time 
taken to download one database (say I have a very large one which takes 
more than 10 minutes, the default granularity), then Plucker Desktop 
starts up another session!  Even more interesting, when they both 
complete, I still have no PDB file in C:\Palm\MYName\Install!

Otherwise it looks great.  I love many of the features, but these 
problems (especially #1 at the top) prevent me from using it.  (Don't 
tell me that's because of the change from Bmp2Tbmp to netpbm2, and that 
therefore even "plain old plucker" will no longer do this come 1.2 ! :-)

Thanks for a great product, in spite of all this.  Plucker itself (the 
main product) is a God-send for me in many ways!

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Plucker Desktop - Suggestions

2002-09-17 Thread Ken Findlay



Great to see you 
adding a Windows front-end to Plucker. I have a couple of 
suggestions:
 
1. Include the 
RTF2HTML program with the distribution (it's freeware) and integrate it into the 
Plucker Desktop to give users the ability of converting Word and RTF documents 
to Plucker format. Here is a download link::
 

  

.http://www.ebookgraphics.com/software/software1.html
 
2. Provide an 
option for the user to specify the automatic generation of bookmarks form HTML 
or RTF headings. A range of headings could be turned on to place bookmarks in 
the Plucker output file. For example - generate bookmarks for heading levels 1 
through 3.
 
Regards,Ken Findlay 
 


beaming docs with url titles bug in plucker 1.2 beta 12

2002-09-17 Thread Patryk Laurent

Greetings, 

I wanted to inform you that I had found a bug in Plucker 1.2 beta 12.  If 
you sync a document to a Plucker installation allowing it to retain it's 
default http:// url title and attempt to beam it to another Palm (which has 
Plucker 1.2 beta 12 installed) the receiving Palm errors: 

"Data received in Unknown Format." 

after receipt. 

If you rename the document to a regular name, it succeeds and the receiving 
Palm says "Do you want to accept "filename" into Applications?" 

This occured sending from a Handspring Visor Neo to both a Palm 105 and to a 
Handspring Visor (original).
Thank you -- excellent app.
Patryk 
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Re: STAYBELOW

2002-09-17 Thread Rob OConnor


--- Nicolas Huillard <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> The Plucker Desktop describes the STAYBELOW as a
> regexp that URLs crawled 
> must match to be included in the document, whereas
> the Plucker Doc 
> describes it as the beginning of the URLs that are
> accepted...
> Ie, according to Plucker Desktop,
> /^http:\/\/my\.site\.org\/mydir\/.*$/ 
> would be the same as what the Plucker Doc would
> write as 
> http://my.site.org/mydir/
> Where is the truth ?
> (actually none of the two notations work in Plucker
> Desktop : I can submit 
> a bug once it's clear what the param syntax really
> is)
> 
> NH

Is staybelow still in the Plucker Desktop docs
somewhere? If so, it should be expunged.

It is deprecated since the same thing should be able
to be done with url-pattern. Unfortuately, the parser
seems to have some problem in that it ignores
url-pattern. A bug report was filed on this is on
bugs.plkr.org a few days ago.

Best wishes,
Robert

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Re: Colored links

2002-09-17 Thread Rob OConnor


--- "Laurens M. Fridael" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> 
> Now that the viewer supports colored text, it would
> be nice to have colored
> links as well. 

It's there. 
The current behaviour is that if the document doesn't
have a  color tag, then it is colored
the same as the text.
Otherwise you have to switch it on via anchor_color
key in your ini. anchor_color can be one of the 16
basic named colors, or a hex like #44FF33

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comments and possible bugs

2002-09-17 Thread wallylynn

Dear Plucker Team,

  I recently downloaded Plucker Desktop (1.2beta12) and want to say that it's a 
wonderful piece of work.  I had tried Plucker a long time ago but AvantGo had a few 
sites I really liked and the auto-sync was much more userfriendly on my windows box.  
After my handful of sites was cut into half a handful with their usage limits I 
decided to take a look at Plucker again and there's Plucker Desktop at the top of the 
news.  Just want to share a few comments with you from using it the past few days.

Good:
  Much smaller than Avantgo.  saves 200k+ (aka 200 news articles)
  Multiple DB good idea.  don't have to sync everything.  Old commandline method not 
very accomodating.
  Most everything.
  
Bad:
  1)  The URL filter doesn't seem to work.  This occurs both under the 
Configure-Limits checkbox/form and manually using the url_pattern tag via 
StartingPage-List-InsertaHyperlink-URLpatternfilter.
(My apologies if i missed the note that says "not yet implemented")

  2)  I also am having trouble spidering a few websites.  It seems to be due to the 
"%20" escape as observed during Max detail.  If the URL is explicitly mentioned 
(website, file, list) it seems to work.  But if a link with the "%20" escape is 
encountered it seems to be translated first before requesting it and thus breaks. Here 
is a snippet from http://www.ny1.com/ny/NY1ToGo/index.html?body_template=topnews.html
Explicit:
 6 collected, 3 to do 
Processing http://www.ny1.com/ny/NY1ToGo/Story/inde.ZAGAT%20REVIEWS...
  Retrieved ok.
  Parsed ok.
Encountered:
 11 collected, 17 to do 
Processing http://www.ny1.com/ny/NY1ToGo/Story/inde.e=ZAGAT REVIEWS...
  Retrieval failed: -1 -- Bad request
.
  3)  Viewer: Too little free ram (under about 40k) results in "Exception error" on 
Palm on document load and exiting to launcher.  Restarting Plucker results in 
immediate attempt to reload document and corresponding exception.  Cannot return to 
Document Library to delete.  Requires 3rd party app to delete db, or syncing and 
overwriting with a smaller db.


Ugly:
  Confusing buttons.  Maybe make it similar to the viewer and have config, delete, 
update next to each channel instead of selecting a channel, hovering over the button 
and then clicking.
  Renaming a channel doesn't rename the folder+database created.  (Name in document 
library listing is updated)
  Maybe during Max Detail don't truncate the URLs.
  Update progress dialog doesn't automatically update.  meter doesn't increment nor 
message window display new messages unless a refresh is forced via mouse movement over 
window.  Downloads and conversions continue to take place, and messages are queued up 
until refresh takes place.
  When not connected, Plucker Desktop will update due channels with "404 Not Found" 
errors (tiny useless dbs).

Info:
WindowsXP  (celeron 500, 256MB ram)
Plucker Desktop v1.2beta12 for windows (Sept 3, 2002)
PalmIIIe 2MB ram.  PalmOS 3.1
PalmOS Emulator w/ 3.0 rom.  (much faster to check experimental channels than via 
syncing)
Maybe important, 56k modem usually connecting at 33k -> slow downloads and paid 
attention during channel update

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