Re: AlphaSmart "Dana"

[Bill Janssen]

> Wow, the TRS Model 102 lives!

Amazing, isn't it?  Apparently AlphaSmart is very big in elementary schools.

Bill
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Re: AlphaSmart "Dana"

[Fringe Ryder]

At 03:53 PM 10/24/2002  -0700, Bill Janssen wrote:

I'm looking at the spec sheet for the AlphaSmart Dana (or as they put
it, "Dana by AlphaSmart").  560x160 greyscale screen that's
software-rotatable, PalmOS 4.1, USB hotsync, IRDA, two SD slots, full
keyboard, 8MB, $400US, comes with Palm Reader.  See
www.alphasmart.com.  How would the hi-res code work on that?


Wow, the TRS Model 102 lives!

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more on Java (and Python and C) API for Plucker distiller

[Bill Janssen]

I've been thinking more about an API for the distiller that would
allow it to be embedded in a Python or Java program, and called
directly.  Thanks to Python's ability to be linked as a library, this
could also be used as a C API, in a C or C++ program that wanted to
call the distiller directly.  Here's what I've got so far (and this
is working in my code, called from Python so far):

  package org.plkr.distiller.API;

  public interface Invocation {

int invoke (java.lang.String[] arguments,
java.io.OutputStream optional_output_channel,
java.lang.String optional_input_String,
java.util.Hashtable optional_config_parameters,
org.plkr.distiller.API.Callback optional_status_callback);
  };

  public interface Callback {

int update (int number_collected, int number_in_queue);

  };

"optional_output_channel" could be a real open file, or an in-memory
construct like ByteArrayOutputStream (or in Python, StringIO).

"optional_input_String" would be an alternative to passing the home
page as a file; it could just be passed as a big string.

"optional_config_parameters" would be a hashtable of string key/value
pairs, which would override any values read from config files (and
also override values read from environment variables?).

"optional_status_callback" would be an instance of a class, the
"update" method of which would be called whenever the distiller was
about to collect a new URL, and again after it finished.

In Java, the class org.plkr.distiller.InvokePluckerFromJava would
provide an implementation of org.plkr.distiller.API.Invocation.  In
Python, the class PyPlucker.Spider would provide an implementation of
org.plkr.distiller.API.Invocation.

Comments welcome!

Bill
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Re: Table rendering problem

[MJ Ray]

David McNab <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Is there any way I can build a table in LaTeX which will be rendered
> correctly once it goes through the LaTeX->latex2html->plucker-build
> cycle?

Correctly in which way?  I'd suggest a quick fix of making the table six
rows of numbers countin up, which will mean the plucked doc is in the
correct order at least.  The same will also apply for some screen-readers,
but I'm not sure that can be relied upon.

MJR

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Re: Need some Victims, er Volunteers.. (wiki replacement)

[David A. Desrosiers]

> Forgive me but although I see categories and cute little folder icons,
> clicking on them gives me directory listings of scripts.  I'm running
> Opera.

We've made some changes, check vault2.cgi for now...

That interface will change a bit, we're both going through the code,
but he's got the ball right now.


d.


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Re: Need some Victims, er Volunteers.. (wiki replacement)

[Fringe Ryder]

At 01:01 AM 10/8/2002  -0400, Wesley Mason wrote:

Hey all..

I've been in touch with Dave on this so bear with me.  I have been
feverishly coding a tool to replace the wiki that was put up to manage the
openurls.  I think it's almost finished.  I'd like a few people to take a
look at it and tell me what I can add.

I already know I need to fix the following:

- Sort the items alphabeticly
- Allow single quotes in the fields
- Add Searching

The current URL is:

http://tdp-software.no-ip.com:8000/plucker/vault.cgi


Forgive me but although I see categories and cute little folder icons, 
clicking on them gives me directory listings of scripts.  I'm running Opera.

Tony McNamara

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Re: AlphaSmart "Dana"

[Adam McDaniel]

On Thu, Oct 24, 2002 at 03:53:00PM -0700, Bill Janssen wrote:
> www.alphasmart.com.  How would the hi-res code work on that?

My hopes are that it'll be similar to how Handera works, as they had a
part in the development of the Dana. Implementing Handera's hires was
much easier than sony's, so hopefully alot of the code can be re-used.

If you actually take a look at hires.c, its modular enough to have a
similar group of functions that each SDK knows how to use/understand.
New groups of the functions would need to be added for the Dana, worst
case scenario.

I do plan on doing this, I'm just waiting for them to release the
SDK/Pose mods.

-- 
Adam McDaniel
Array.org
Calgary, AB, Canada



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AlphaSmart "Dana"

[Bill Janssen]

I'm looking at the spec sheet for the AlphaSmart Dana (or as they put
it, "Dana by AlphaSmart").  560x160 greyscale screen that's
software-rotatable, PalmOS 4.1, USB hotsync, IRDA, two SD slots, full
keyboard, 8MB, $400US, comes with Palm Reader.  See
www.alphasmart.com.  How would the hi-res code work on that?

Bill
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Re: Table rendering problem

[David McNab]

On Fri, 2002-10-25 at 04:51, Robert O'Connor wrote:
> On 25 Oct 2002 at 0:30, David McNab wrote:
> >   * http://www.rebirthing.co.nz/temp/pluckersample.html
> It's not a problem with the table rendering, that is just how Plucker renders 
>tables. It will 
> be pretty hard to make sense of that one though.
> > Is there any way to do a table so that it shows correctly in the viewer?
> 
> Option 1: Make a .png image (may want to bold up the headers and left column to make 
>it easier 
> to read.
> 
> Option 2: Use the  tag and align up the numbers in table. Example
> 1  2  3  4  5  6

Thanks for that.

The html file is being generated from a LaTeX file with latex2html.

Is there any way I can build a table in LaTeX which will be rendered
correctly once it goes through the LaTeX->latex2html->plucker-build
cycle?

David


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Re: 1.3 configure

[Adam McDaniel]

On Thu, Oct 24, 2002 at 09:43:21AM -0500, Chris Hawks wrote:
> creating config.h
> cat: ./config.h.in: No such file or directory
[..]
> What am I doing wrong??

I had this same issue.

Run `autoreconf` in the viewer directory, then run configure.

-- 
Adam McDaniel
Array.org
Calgary, AB, Canada



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Re: Table rendering problem

[Robert O'Connor]

On 25 Oct 2002 at 0:30, David McNab wrote:

>   * http://www.rebirthing.co.nz/temp/pluckersample.html

It's not a problem with the table rendering, that is just how Plucker renders tables. 
It will 
be pretty hard to make sense of that one though.

> Is there any way to do a table so that it shows correctly in the viewer?

Option 1: Make a .png image (may want to bold up the headers and left column to make 
it easier 
to read.

Option 2: Use the  tag and align up the numbers in table. Example
1  2  3  4  5  6

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1.3 configure

[Chris Hawks]

Mike:

I can't seem to configure the HEAD unstable CVS code. When I run
configure it does the checks and prints out the options at the end, but,
shows the following just before printing them:
updating cache ./config.cache
creating ./config.status
creating Makefile
creating ZLib/Makefile
creating config.h
cat: ./config.h.in: No such file or directory

And I wind up with a config.h that says:
/* config.h.  Generated automatically by configure.  */
and noting else, no options, or anything.

What am I doing wrong??

Chris

Christopher R. Hawks Software Engineer
Syscon Plantstar a Division of Syscon International
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> Linux is not user-friendly. 
It _is_ user-friendly.  It is not ignorant-friendly and idiot-friendly.
-- Seen somewhere on the net.




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Re: Observations during install of plucker_bin-1.2.tar.gz

[Larry W. Virden]

From: Michael =?iso-8859-1?Q?Nordstr=F6m?= <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

>> Alas, now I have to go through all of this AGAIN
>
>You only had to re-run plucker-setup.

Thanks - that helps!
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Re: Observations during install of plucker_bin-1.2.tar.gz

[Michael Nordström]

On Thu, Oct 24, 2002, Larry W. Virden wrote:

> Do you want to run plucker-setup now?  [y] 
[snip]
> Alas, now I have to go through all of this AGAIN

You only had to re-run plucker-setup.

/Mike

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Re: Sites

[Edward Rayl]

For example when I want to read the NY Times at www.nytimes.com I get all kinds
of 'img' tags that lead nowhere and I can't open any links.
 

For the NY Times, try:
http://www10.nytimes.com/nytimes-partners/omnisky/main.html
Set your depth to 3 and turn stayonhost on.


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Observations during install of plucker_bin-1.2.tar.gz

[Larry W. Virden]

Platform: SPARC Solaris 8


I download and extracted the tar file .

I read the INSTALL file, then cd into the unix directory and run the 
install script.

I specify my personal prefix for installing things.  I accept the directory
for the binary files.

Note: In my environment, I do not have write permissions in the Python
directory, nor do I have root permissions, so I specify my own directory
for installing the python parser - hoping that appropriate changes would
be made to scripts to find it...

I accept the directory for the data and docs.

When I am asked if I wish to install pluck-comics, at first I say yes.

I am given a view of the configuration info, and asked if I want to 
continue, and I say yes.

However, during the following process, the script fails with the message:

Compiling /volws/lwv26/ldatae/lib/python2.1/site-packages/PyPlucker/pluck-comics.py ...
gmake[2]: Leaving directory 
`/ldatae/PilotBuilding/plucker/plucker-1.2/tools/pluck-comics'
gmake[1]: Leaving directory `/ldatae/PilotBuilding/plucker/plucker-1.2/tools'
Traceback (most recent call last):
  File "./install-plucker", line 153, in ?
os.symlink(os.path.join(MOD_DIR, "PyPlucker", "pluck-comics.py"), 
os.path.join(BIN_DIR, "pluck-comics"))
OSError: [Errno 17] File exists

At this point, I have to go through all the same questions again, this
time indicating that I don't want the pluck-comics, just so I can get on
with the process.  Note that the message isn't clear what
file exists, nor what I am supposed to do about it.

I start all over again, answering the questions the same, except I say
no to pluck-comics.

This time I get through all the python compiles, and reach the:

Do you want to run plucker-setup now?  [y] 

question.  I answer yes, update the 3 configure files, and get to:

Install the Palm applications on your Palm OS handheld?  [y] 

I answer I want the english client.

I then get:


Install the ZLib library, too?  [y] 
Install the User's Guide, too?  [y] n

   Unable to bind to port /dev/pilot
   pi_bind: No such file or directory


Installation Finished

Alas, now I have to go through all of this AGAIN, because the install
script didn't notice that the device wasn't present and prompt me for
the device to use.

So I set the environment variables needed, answer all the questions
yet again, and get things installed.

Just thought I would mention the 2 places where I 'got bit' by the
process in hopes that future updates might be able to make things even
smoother.

Thanks!

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Table rendering problem

[David McNab]

Hi,

Plucker viewer (or plucker-build) is failing to handle tables correctly.

Test case:

  * http://www.rebirthing.co.nz/temp/pluckersample.html

which I convert, using plucker-build, to:

  * http://www.rebirthing.co.nz/temp/pluckersample.pdb

The table is on chapter 24.

Is there any way to do a table so that it shows correctly in the viewer?

Cheers
David


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Re: Thai Translation in Plucker 1.2

[Michael Nordström]

On Wed, Oct 23, 2002, Karin Pimsamsee wrote:
> And that feeling huge enough to push me make a Thai translation of
> Plucker.

Thanks, I will add it to the 1.2 branch (i.e. it will be included
in the next stable release) and to the main trunk (i.e. the unstable
"branch"); it can be updated when you have tested the version Andy
sent.

Also, it is not that hard to fix the soft-hyphen (0xAD) problem you
have reported (and others have mentioned the same problem on this
list for both Chinese and Japanese devices.) The remaining question
is whether it is possible for the viewer to detect this "conflict"
automatically or if we should add an option to turn it on/off (and
whether such an option should be set at compile time or run time.) 

/Mike

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Re: Re[2]: new manual in TexInfo format?

[MJ Ray]

Bill Janssen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I don't find any SGML format to be a particularly tractable source
> format.  Reasonable for generated output, though.  Or are there some
> good WYSIWYG SGML editors that I've just missed out on?

qemacs can *edit* DocBook WYSIWYGish, although adding tags when writing new
parts requires one to fall back to editing the code.  I suspect extending it
to do some tags without dropping back to text wouldn't be *too* difficult.

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Re: Thai Translation in Plucker 1.2

[Andy Rabagliati]

On Wed, 23 Oct 2002, Karin Pimsamsee wrote:

> I don't have any Palm compiler to test this file. After your compilation 
> please let me know.

Compiled version mailed to you ..

Cheers,  Andy!
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Sites

[Mills-Lutterodt, George]

Hello,
Thanks for a wonderful tool for reading news on my Sony Clie, off the 'Net.
However, why are some sites not parsed correctly and others zip right over
to my handheld.  I'm using the Windows desktop management interface.  For
example when I want to read the NY Times at www.nytimes.com I get all kinds
of 'img' tags that lead nowhere and I can't open any links.

Thanks for all your help.

F. George Mills-Lutterodt
The TriZetto Group, Inc.
HealtheWare Development Services - Business Analysis
Telephone: (908) 994-3620
Fax: (908) 994-3720
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www.trizetto.com


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Thai Translation in Plucker 1.2

[Karin Pimsamsee]

Hi Plucker Developer,

I really like your program. And that feeling huge enough to push me make 
a Thai translation of Plucker.
I always use your program to track news around the world. Especially 
tech news, Slashdot, CNET, Palm Infocenter.
I don't have any Palm compiler to test this file. After your compilation 
please let me know.
Thai words and sentences are not seperate individually like English words.
Some of Thai words display may look awkward. I need to correct it on my 
Visor again.

Finally, thank you verymuch for your good program.
Plucker helps me up-to-date everyday.

Karin


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