Re: 480x320 on Clie UX50

2003-09-19 Thread Tony McNamara

At 01:00 AM 9/19/2003 -0400, Andrew Diller 
wrote:
Thanks to some help from an intrepid developer
on irc.plkr.org tonight, the latest snapshot supports the 480x320 of the
Clie UX50.
Thanks. But does it still crash with a MemMgr.c null pointer when a
third document is deleted from the library?


Re: 480x320 on Clie UX50

2003-09-19 Thread Alexander R. Pruss



Didn't here about this one. Is this a 
UX50-only problem?
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  From: 
  Tony 
  McNamara 
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  Sent: Friday, September 19, 2003 8:16 
  AM
  Subject: Re: 480x320 on Clie UX50
  At 01:00 AM 9/19/2003 -0400, Andrew Diller 
  wrote:
  Thanks to some help from an intrepid 
developer on irc.plkr.org tonight, the latest snapshot supports the 480x320 
of the Clie UX50.Thanks. But does it still crash with a 
  MemMgr.c null pointer when a third document is deleted from the 
  library? 


Re: 480x320 on Clie UX50

2003-09-19 Thread Tony McNamara

At 08:21 AM 9/19/2003 -0400, Alexander R. Pruss
wrote:
Didn't here
about this one. Is this a UX50-only
problem?
I wrote about it a week ago. I haven't seen it on my IIIc, only on
my UX50. To fix the crash, the Plucker preferences have to be
deleted using CleanPlucker after it. Somewhat annoying.

But if you don't delete documents when done with them, it doesn't appear
to happen.

Regards



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Department of Philosophy
Georgetown University
Washington, DC 20057-1133 U.S.A.
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[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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- Original Message - 
From: Tony McNamara 
To:
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Sent: Friday, September 19, 2003 8:16 AM
Subject: Re: 480x320 on Clie UX50


At 01:00 AM 9/19/2003 -0400, Andrew Diller wrote:
Thanks to some help from an intrepid developer on irc.plkr.org tonight, the latest snapshot supports the 480x320 of the Clie UX50.
Thanks. But does it still crash with a MemMgr.c null pointer when a third document is deleted from the library? 



Re: 480x320 on Clie UX50

2003-09-19 Thread Alexander R. Pruss



I must have missed your email. Could you file 
the report on bugs.plkr.org, with full information on how to duplicate it? 
Here are some questions, not all ofwhich need to be answered, but which 
would help point us in the right direction:Does it matter how many 
documents in total you have? Does it matter whether you're using the 
device in landscape or portrait mode? Do you do the deleting just at entry 
to Plucker, or after exiting from a doc? Does it happen for documents on 
MS?

It's hard to fix a bug one can't duplicate. I 
take it that nobody else has this bug on an OS 5.2 device? (I only have an 
OS 5.0 device.)

Alex

--Dr. Alexander R. PrussDepartment of PhilosophyGeorgetown 
UniversityWashington, DC 20057-1133 U.S.A.e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]online papers and 
home page: www.georgetown.edu/faculty/ap85-- 
"Philosophiam discimus non ut tantum sciamus, sed ut boni 
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(1424)

  - Original Message - 
  From: 
  Tony 
  McNamara 
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  ; [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  
  Sent: Friday, September 19, 2003 8:38 
  AM
  Subject: Re: 480x320 on Clie UX50
  At 08:21 AM 9/19/2003 -0400, Alexander R. 
  Pruss wrote:
  Didn't here about 
this one. Is this a UX50-only problem?I wrote 
  about it a week ago. I haven't seen it on my IIIc, only on my 
  UX50. To fix the crash, the Plucker preferences have to be deleted using 
  CleanPlucker after it. Somewhat annoying.But if you don't delete 
  documents when done with them, it doesn't appear to 
  happen.Regards
  --Dr. Alexander R. 
PrussDepartment of PhilosophyGeorgetown UniversityWashington, DC 
20057-1133 U.S.A.e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]online papers 
and home page: www.georgetown.edu/faculty/ap85-- 
"Philosophiam discimus non ut tantum sciamus, sed ut boni 
efficiamur." - Paul of Worczyn 
(1424) 

  - Original Message - 
  From: Tony McNamara 
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  ; [EMAIL PROTECTED] 

  Sent: Friday, September 19, 2003 8:16 AM 
  Subject: Re: 480x320 on Clie UX50
  At 01:00 AM 9/19/2003 -0400, Andrew Diller wrote:
  
Thanks to some help from an intrepid developer on irc.plkr.org 
tonight, the latest snapshot supports the 480x320 of the Clie 
  UX50.
  Thanks. But does it still crash with a MemMgr.c null pointer 
  when a third document is deleted from the library? 



Re: 480x320 on Clie UX50

2003-09-19 Thread Tony McNamara

At 09:10 AM 9/19/2003 -0400, Alexander R. Pruss wrote:
I must have missed
your email. Could you file the report on bugs.plkr.org, with full
information on how to duplicate it? Here are some questions, not
all of which need to be answered, but which would help point us in the
right direction: Does it matter how many documents in total you
have? Does it matter whether you're using the device in landscape
or portrait mode? Do you do the deleting just at entry to Plucker,
or after exiting from a doc? Does it happen for documents on
MS?

It's hard to fix a bug one can't
duplicate. I take it that nobody else has this bug on an OS 5.2
device? (I only have an OS 5.0 device.)

Alex
I just grabbed last night's snapshot and the problem is gone. Which will
make it particularly hard to reproduce. It was in the versions from
May and mid-August, but that's moot now.

Regards




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Department of Philosophy
Georgetown University
Washington, DC 20057-1133 U.S.A.
e-mail: 
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
online papers and home page:
www.georgetown.edu/faculty/ap85
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boni efficiamur.
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- Original Message - 
From: Tony McNamara 
To:
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Sent: Friday, September 19, 2003 8:38 AM
Subject: Re: 480x320 on Clie UX50


At 08:21 AM 9/19/2003 -0400, Alexander R. Pruss wrote:
Didn't here about this one. Is this a UX50-only problem?
I wrote about it a week ago. I haven't seen it on my IIIc, only on my UX50. To fix the crash, the Plucker preferences have to be deleted using CleanPlucker after it. Somewhat annoying.


But if you don't delete documents when done with them, it doesn't appear to happen.


Regards






--
Dr. Alexander R. Pruss
Department of Philosophy
Georgetown University
Washington, DC 20057-1133 U.S.A.
e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
online papers and home page: www.georgetown.edu/faculty/ap85
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 - Paul of Worczyn (1424) 
- Original Message - 
From: Tony McNamara 
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ; [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Friday, September 19, 2003 8:16 AM 
Subject: Re: 480x320 on Clie UX50


At 01:00 AM 9/19/2003 -0400, Andrew Diller wrote: 
Thanks to some help from an intrepid developer on irc.plkr.org tonight, the latest snapshot supports the 480x320 of the Clie UX50.
Thanks. But does it still crash with a MemMgr.c null pointer when a third document is deleted from the library? 



Re: 480x320 on Clie UX50

2003-09-19 Thread Tony McNamara
At 09:45 AM 9/19/2003  -0400, Chris Pepper wrote:
Sounds similar to 
http://bugs.plkr.org/bug_view_page.php?bug_id=666 to me. Deleting a 
book (generally after reading the document in question) from the Library 
or within a document frequently crashes, either immediately or when 
exiting plucker. CleanPlucker hasn't helped me at all. I've seen it with 
1-2 dozen documents, and more.

I just repeated this; deleted 6 documents, hit Home, and crashed:

Fatal Alert
MemoryMgr.c, Line:3654,
Free handle
[Reset]

And just to make things more irritating, the onscren Reset button 
doesn't work; I have to use the one on the back.

This has persisted past the Tungsten C OS upgrade (it takes Palm 
9mb to avoid a stupid bogus noise using the stylus!!!). I'm now running 
5.2.1 10B  5/14/03  13:.

Chris
PS-I though someone here mentioned automated CVS snapshot builds, but I 
can't find the message, or a newer build at hires.plkr.org. I tried to 
build the whole ball of wax from CVS a month or so ago, and was not 
successful. Is there an easier way to get a new (hires) client?
Yeah, the onscreen button didn't work either!  But last night's snapshot 
does appear to have fixed it on my system, in high-res mode.  (Gee, it's 
nice to get dilbert on a single panel!)



At 9:10 AM -0400 2003/09/19, Alexander R. Pruss wrote:
I must have missed your email.  Could you file the report on 
bugs.plkr.org, with full information on how to duplicate it?  Here are 
some questions, not all of which need to be answered, but which would 
help point us in the right direction: Does it matter how many documents 
in total you have?  Does it matter whether you're using the device in 
landscape or portrait mode?  Do you do the deleting just at entry to 
Plucker, or after exiting from a doc?  Does it happen for documents on MS?

It's hard to fix a bug one can't duplicate.  I take it that nobody else 
has this bug on an OS 5.2 device?  (I only have an OS 5.0 device.)

Alex

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Department of Philosophy
Georgetown University
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Sent: Friday, September 19, 2003 8:38 AM
Subject: Re: 480x320 on Clie UX50

At 08:21 AM 9/19/2003  -0400, Alexander R. Pruss wrote:

Didn't here about this one.  Is this a UX50-only problem?
I wrote about it a week ago.  I haven't seen it on my IIIc, only on my 
UX50.  To fix the crash, the Plucker preferences have to be deleted using 
CleanPlucker after it.  Somewhat annoying.

But if you don't delete documents when done with them, it doesn't appear 
to happen.

Regards


--
Dr. Alexander R. Pruss
Department of Philosophy
Georgetown University
Washington, DC 20057-1133  U.S.A.
e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED][EMAIL PROTECTED]
online papers and home page: 
http://www.georgetown.edu/faculty/ap85www.georgetown.edu/faculty/ap85
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 Subject: Re: 480x320 on Clie UX50

At 01:00 AM 9/19/2003  -0400, Andrew Diller wrote:

Thanks to some help from an intrepid developer on irc.plkr.org tonight, 
the latest snapshot supports the 480x320 of the Clie UX50.
Thanks.  But does it still crash with a MemMgr.c null pointer when a 
third document is deleted from the library?


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Re: 480x320 on Clie UX50

2003-09-19 Thread Alexander R. Pruss
Yes, there were some bugs in library handling fixed.

Alex

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Re: 480x320 on Clie UX50

2003-09-19 Thread David A. Desrosiers

 I just grabbed last night's snapshot and the problem is gone. Which will
 make it particularly hard to reproduce.  It was in the versions from May
 and mid-August, but that's moot now.

You realize you're addressing these messages to 'plucker-dev' twice
in every email you send? The whole list is getting duplicates of every
message. Something amiss in your client/address list? They're both unique,
with unique Message-Ids and timestamps on them.

d.

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Re: 480x320 on Clie UX50

2003-09-19 Thread Tony McNamara
At 11:01 AM 9/19/2003  -0400, David A. Desrosiers wrote:

 I just grabbed last night's snapshot and the problem is gone. Which will
 make it particularly hard to reproduce.  It was in the versions from May
 and mid-August, but that's moot now.
You realize you're addressing these messages to 'plucker-dev' twice
in every email you send? The whole list is getting duplicates of every
message. Something amiss in your client/address list? They're both unique,
with unique Message-Ids and timestamps on them.
Hadn't realized it, but see it now that it's brought to my attention.  Best 
guess is that I've got reply mapped to Reply All, and the name the list 
has in the Reply-To field doesn't quite match the name in the To: 
field.  I base this on the labels accompanying them on my sent copy.

I'll try to watch out for this; thanks for bringing it to my attention.

-TMcN-

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Bad mail habits... (was: 480x320 on Clie UX50)

2003-09-19 Thread Michael Nordstrom
On Fri, Sep 19, 2003, David A. Desrosiers wrote:
 You realize you're addressing these messages to 'plucker-dev' twice
 in every email you send?

And to make things worse the mail also includes *everything* from
previous messages in the thread. How about removing most of the old
text and only include the part that is relevant to the new message?
Alexander, that's something you might want to think about, too ;-)

/Mike

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Re: 480x320 on Clie UX50

2003-09-19 Thread Alexander R. Pruss
Chris:

Could you confirm whether the bug has been squashed on your system in
the CVS version so I can close the relevant bugs in the bugtracker?

Alex

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From: Chris Pepper [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Sent: Friday, September 19, 2003 9:45 AM
Subject: Re: 480x320 on Clie UX50


 Sounds similar to
 http://bugs.plkr.org/bug_view_page.php?bug_id=666 to me. Deleting a
 book (generally after reading the document in question) from the
 Library or within a document frequently crashes, either immediately
 or when exiting plucker. CleanPlucker hasn't helped me at all. I've
 seen it with 1-2 dozen documents, and more.

 I just repeated this; deleted 6 documents, hit Home, and crashed:

 Fatal Alert
 MemoryMgr.c, Line:3654,
 Free handle

 [Reset]

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Re: Bad mail habits... (was: 480x320 on Clie UX50)

2003-09-19 Thread MJ Ray
On 2003-09-19 17:26:52 +0100 Michael Nordstrom [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
And to make things worse the mail also includes *everything* from
previous messages in the thread. How about removing most of the old
Top-posters and over-quoters on lists are routinely deleted by many 
(hey, it's our time), so http://remember.to/edit_messages if you want 
to be read by more people.
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Re: 480x320 on Clie UX50

2003-09-19 Thread Chris Pepper
At 9:56 AM -0400 2003/09/19, Alexander R. Pruss wrote:
www.plkr.org, click on snapshot.  Then let me know if the bug persists.
	Yep. Just deleted 3 books (2 from within the books, and 1 
from the listing), hit Home, and crashed the same way as previously. 
About plucker says 9/19-cvs.

Fatal Alert
MemoryMgr.c, Line:3654,
Free handle


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